Have you guys heard of "coworking"?

14 years ago

This is popular in London, I did it for a month
and it cost me £200. You get a desktop PC,
fast internet and a cabinet that you can lock
with a key.

It makes your day a lot more fun and possibly
helps you get more done than if you're sat at
home on your own. Good for networking as well.

What I'm doing in the summer is moving to
Thailand and living with other Internet
marketers that I only know online. I think
it's a great idea.

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Darren Tan 14 years ago

I guess it's quite popular among start up entrepreneurs, even in Asia (my country Singapore)

I seriously don't like it though, small work space in a room shared with so many people, no privacy.

Might as well work from home, cheaper than renting the space for about $200 bucks per month.

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karlhadwen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve Ranger

This is popular in London, I did it for a month
and it cost me £200. You get a desktop PC,
fast internet and a cabinet that you can lock
with a key.

It makes your day a lot more fun and possibly
helps you get more done than if you're sat at
home on your own. Good for networking as well.

What I'm doing in the summer is moving to
Thailand and living with other Internet
marketers that I only know online. I think
it's a great idea.

Holy **** that sounds cool, this is the first time I've heard of "co-working" but it sounds awesome. I'm going to start asking a few friends if they want to do it over the summer, sounds insane. Would love to just smash work out over the summer and generate $$$. I'd also love the networking part, ask friends to bring other Internet Marketing friends along.

If anyone is interested in doing "co-working" over the summer hit me up via PM or twitter me @karlhadwen - I'm going to try get a few guys/gals together and network. Also would be great to travel to another country and do this!

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VilPietersen@ 14 years ago

Originally Posted by karlhadwen

Also would be great to travel to another country and do this!

Ye dude, you know it! Don't know if this is the right year for me but would be interested in the future
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BJ Min

14 years ago

that's cool...where i live there's one place for $350 a month...i am considering it and looking to get opinions from people who have done it...

the reason i ask is because working on internet business can get lonely sometimes because you can end up working and making money but never get to see real life people on a regular basis like most people at jobs)...

that's why i like to work in the library just to be around an environment where there's people...

anyone from the los angeles area who do coworking here by the way?

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Tam Chancellor 13 years ago

Originally Posted by BJ Min

anyone from the los angeles area who do coworking here by the way?

There are a few coworking MeetUp groups in Los Angeles. I attended a couple of meetups that met at night, from 8pm to 2am. I liked it. Being around like-minded people really helped my productivity.
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Oxbloom

14 years ago

Didn't know about this phenomenon, which is odd for me, because I'm a big fan of the cohousing movement. :shame:

Turns out there is already a coworking movement afoot in my area, though. I'll be looking into it as a result of visiting your thread. So...er...thanks!

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paulie888

14 years ago

There are no coworking places where I live, but I intend to sign up for membership at one in the city where I'll be moving to soon (Seattle)...I've even decided on the exact one - Office Nomads

It runs $375 a month, but it feels more like a real office community versus a library or a coffee shop. You get a place to store your office essentials (you can even get a dedicated desk where you can permanently situate your computer, monitor, paper files, etc.), and it's just seems like a friendly place where you can work with like-minded people. It has a kitchen, bathroom with showers(!), and of course internet, fax, and printing facilities. Additionally, there is a large lounge area with sofas and tables for reading, and it is dog-friendly. There are even 2 large conference rooms you can reserve for 1-2 hours at a time, and I feel that a place like this would be really conducive for productivity and focus!

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Ken Strong

13 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

There are no coworking places where I live, but I intend to sign up for membership at one in the city where I'll be moving to soon (Seattle)...I've even decided on the exact one - Office Nomads

I used to own a bookstore right around the corner from them -- haven't been inside, but they have a cool old warehouse building in the hippest neighborhood in town.

But parking is difficult and expensive around there, and I don't miss the daily commute. If you're going to be living close enough to walk, bike, or take the bus, then I can see how it could be a good thing.

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knowwow

14 years ago

I work from home and I would really like to have a place to go to occasionally.
There are times when I realize I haven't gone out for a few days :s

Also, because my girlfriend work in a traditional company (she is on the road 3 hours a day going to-and-fro [CRAZY!]), and because I work from my bed, there is a misconception that I lie around all day while she is working too hard...
Hate it!

By the way, the concept "co-working" seems to be wrongly coined. Co-working makes me think of people working together on something... It had to be something about sharing a space... (OK l've got to think about this now, like I don't have a ton of things to do...)

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82ana

13 years ago

Originally Posted by knowwow

I work from home and I would really like to have a place to go to occasionally.
There are times when I realize I haven't gone out for a few days :s

Also, because my girlfriend work in a traditional company (she is on the road 3 hours a day going to-and-fro [CRAZY!]), and because I work from my bed, there is a misconception that I lie around all day while she is working too hard...
Hate it!

By the way, the concept "co-working" seems to be wrongly coined. Co-working makes me think of people working together on something... It had to be something about sharing a space... (OK l've got to think about this now, like I don't have a ton of things to do...)

[Disclaimer: BA in Philosophy and Copywriting, MBA in Marketing]

I have the same issue (only with the bf). I don't lie around all day!

Co-working sounds like a fun idea. I was thinking of investing in some real-estate anyway might turn it into a boutique co-working studio for freelancers (creative types).
Plus it sounds like something that would keep me from checking my computer every 20 seconds. I swear, I wake up in the middle of the night only to check my laptop :/... Such is the life of a failing IMer...

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BJ Min

14 years ago

it's actually "coworking" not "co-working" from my research...

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raynman

14 years ago

This would be great from a networking side of things. Great for finding people to JV with, I would suppose.

Still...it would be tough to beat seeing my wife and daughter all day and my occasional trips to the library for research (accompanied by my wife and daughter

).

This might not be a bad idea for one or two days a week, though.

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BJ Min

14 years ago

here's a cool little article written by entrepreneur's magainze about coworking:

Solo, But Not Alone - Entrepreneur.com

by the way, i guess it's also called "co-working" as well...

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

So let me get this straight...

People fuss and cuss about a boss, lousy co-workers, office politics, traffic and commuting, etc., so they start their own home business to get away from it all, and then rent office space so they can be surrounded by other people busy getting away from it all. Is that about it?

Yeah, sounds great.

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kelvin yeo

14 years ago

Dennis, the quote in paragraph 2 of Solo, But Not Alone - Entrepreneur.com will shed some light.

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

So let me get this straight...

People fuss and cuss about a boss, lousy co-workers, office politics, traffic and commuting, etc., so they start their own home business to get away from it all, and then rent office space so they can be surrounded by other people busy getting away from it all. Is that about it?

Yeah, sounds great.

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knowwow

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

So let me get this straight...

People fuss and cuss about a boss, lousy co-workers, office politics, traffic and commuting, etc., so they start their own home business to get away from it all, and then rent office space so they can be surrounded by other people busy getting away from it all. Is that about it?

Yeah, sounds great.

There is no bossing though, neither office politics. I'd like to think that those who set out for their own may not be that lousy either. And the traffic and commuting... if this gets to be a rising trend, one should be find such places in close proximity (not if you live in suburbia though).

I understand your thinking though, and I will even admit that I miss bitching about my lousy boss with co-workers, bitching about lousy co-workers with less lousy co-workers... Analyzing this further though, I find myself missing the interaction itself.

AND!

I am getting a bit Freudian here, but in interaction too, what I find myself missing is the occasional appreciation I would receive. Working alone needs iron nerves, so many people think you couldn't "cope with" it and settled for less. Trying to prove them wrong is a battle if you are at least a tiny bit dependent on approval of others (how corrupted their worldviews may be).

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paulie888

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

So let me get this straight...

People fuss and cuss about a boss, lousy co-workers, office politics, traffic and commuting, etc., so they start their own home business to get away from it all, and then rent office space so they can be surrounded by other people busy getting away from it all. Is that about it?

Yeah, sounds great.

Dennis, in a coworking situation there is no boss, and neither are there scheming and conniving colleagues who are trying to get you fired or in trouble with the boss.

Most of the people in a coworking office either work independently or are entrepreneurs, so you're basically surrounding yourself with like-minded people, for the most part.

In addition to that, you can walk into the office any time you want, and leave pretty much when you feel like it. So it's sort of like deriving all the benefits of working at an office with no (or perhaps just a very few) drawbacks.

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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

Dennis, in a coworking situation there is no boss, and neither are there scheming and conniving colleagues who are trying to get you fired or in trouble with the boss.

Most of the people in a coworking office either work independently or are entrepreneurs, so you're basically surrounding yourself with like-minded people, for the most part.

In addition to that, you can walk into the office any time you want, and leave pretty much when you feel like it. So it's sort of like deriving all the benefits of working at an office with no (or perhaps just a very few) drawbacks.

Paul, see my post #17. I offer the same reply in response to your post.

I'm just glad this thread was about coworking and not cow orking.

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paulie888

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Paul, see my post #17. I offer the same reply in response to you.

I'm just glad this thread was about coworking and not cow orking.

Dennis, I knew you were kidding around, but I also felt the strong urge to enlighten you about the great benefits of coworking.

It's still quite a novelty here in the US, except in the major metropolitan areas.

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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

Dennis, I knew you were kidding around, but I also felt the strong urge to enlighten you about the great benefits of coworking.

It's still quite a novelty here in the US, except in the major metropolitan areas.

That's fine, but it assumes I'm not enlightened in the first place. Not sure how you derived that from a facetious comment.

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reed

14 years ago

Sounds like a money maker to me, $200 - $350 per month? I could rent a home, set it up nicely for several people and make a killing....LOL! Hmmm, may be not a bad idea after all.....

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Whoa, kelvin and knowhow, slow down . . . didn't you see the "wink" after my post? My comment was a form of nonliteral humor. Methinks thou art somewhat defensive and me wonders why?

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knowwow 14 years ago

I totally got the wink and wasn't at all defensive.
(Bravo! Now I am defensive.)

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MissTerraK 14 years ago

I don't know...hmm, sounds like it would be a very attractive offer for rip off artists:confused:

Just sayin...

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avandrunen

14 years ago

Reed I was just having the same idea.

Coworking has a lot of potential, both as an outlet for imers and as a potential offline business.

Granted I need to get my online business to the point where I can quit my job anyway..but future plans.

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reed

14 years ago

avandrunen, how is Canada? If I ever get to quit my job as well we could start an IM Inn.... We could have leased office areas, training rooms, seminars, and of course IM vacation packages

Oh does this have the brain a churn'n...

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thescribe

14 years ago

Very interesting phenomenon... Sometimes, you just crave the interaction with others when you work from home, so I guess coworking fills that void. Also, if you are prone to distraction, this type of atmosphere might help.

Plus, a lot of these spaces allow you to rent by the day so you cn get a feel for the place before making a monthly commitment.

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14 years ago

Hi all. I'm a newbie here. I saw so many postings re:coworking that I had to chime in. I manage a large coworking facility in L.A. 5000 sf of modern, open office environment. People collaborate here, and even hire each other. That, perhaps is the clincher for some of you who "escaped" the office politics, etc. But like a few other proponents said, since everyone works for themselves, those politics disappear. Our mantra is "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself."

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JonWebContent

13 years ago

Coworking is great. I did it for a few months at an office space in my hometown.

The only thing I didn't like was days where I really needed quiet and to focus, it was kinda hard. I found myself going to the library on those days.

The best parts about coworking is that it is cheap office space + a fishing pond for potential business. If you sell products/services to like-minded people, what better way to network? Just don't be lame and have an annoying sales pitch that you use every time someone speaks to you!

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JennSpencerIM

13 years ago

We used to do this....but honestly it felt like going to work! And by the time I got to the office, most of the others were leaving for the day and I'd be there all night long with the cleaning folks!

I just like to work from my bed!! But I can see the value of being around others cause it does get boring when you don't see anyone all day long!!

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Ken Strong

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JennSpencerIM

We used to do this....but honestly it felt like going to work! And by the time I got to the office, most of the others were leaving for the day and I'd be there all night long with the cleaning folks!

I just like to work from my bed!! But I can see the value of being around others cause it does get boring when you don't see anyone all day long!!

That was my thought, too -- to make it work, you pretty much have to keep regular daytime weekday hours when everyone else is there, too. Otherwise there's not much point.

Then you have to factor in how far your commute is, where to park if you drive, etc. I understand the appeal, but sounds too much like going to a job for my taste.

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mr2monster

13 years ago

There are a couple places I know of in Phoenix that have free co-working places. Gangplank and Red Pear... both are great facilities (better than most office complexes) and don't charge the independent business owner anything to come and use their space.

I need to get off my butt and get back into them. Gangplank even had a voice room for making podcasts and such at their last place. Haven't seen the new place, but I'm betting it's an upgrade!

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Tiratore 13 years ago

I like the idea and definitely could see the need to use them a day here or there. I'm curious about the networking aspect.

However, the worst thing to me is when you're trying to write content or speak with your clients on the phone and you hear background chatter.

If you do need quiet and want to get out of the house there have been shared offices available in designated office buildings and hotels for the past 40 years or so.
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  Coworking is appropriately priced. If you always need a higher level or privacy or quiet for phone calls/writing, then you should pay for your own office space, or perhaps an executive suite. Coworking is not a 100% solution. However, that said, coworking's pricing and benefits seriously make you reassess how important 4 solid walls of privacy really is. And that's exactly it: while shared office spaces in traditional bldgs and hotels have been around for 40 years, those two solutions have had their inherent flaws. For example, internet/technology has not been strengths for hotels. Meanwhile, traditional office leases require longer contracts, etc.
  
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Brent Stangel

6 years ago

Let's see, I have no commute no office rent no intrusions, I can set around in my underwear and smoke my bong, step outside and go fishing...

Yeah, I want to pay a couple hundred per month to give that up.

NOT!!

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discrat

6 years ago

Let's see, I have no commute no office rent no intrusions, I can set around in my underwear pink poka dot Thong and smoke my bong eat two scrumptious chocolate scones, step outside and go fishing... throw darts at Dennis my Monkeyservant while he whistles Sound of Music

Yeah, I want to pay a couple hundred per month to give that up.

NOT!!

Sounds like Mr. IMer himself, Tom Addams. Except Mr. Addams in bold

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Jason Kanigan

6 years ago

Yay someone bumped a literally 8 year old thread to put their article content in.

Let's keep our eyes open.

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