When Do You Stop Being A Newbie?

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I wanted to get the discussion going on this one as i have been a full time Internet Marketer now since 02 December 2009 so not that long right?
Well thats the thing i had dabbled a little in part time making Money on-line from Blogger.com for about a year and that was minimal at the best of times.
So now i have a few sites & ebooks i have put together and now and i am steadily becoming a master of SEO generating a lot of traffic to my sites and also have picked up a few off-line clients i now do SEO work for on a residual basis.
At the start of 2010 i started making a healthily growing income from Internet marketing and affiliate partnering which i think is a good sign i am doing things right?. I love to help other people who are starting out as when your new to this there are millions upon millions of things to take on board and i believe the best practise is to get a great mentor "I still have one and would not be where i am with out him". so my questions are am i still a newbie? we are all still learning right?
Is it a time thing like an apprenticeship or is it ranked on your success?
I look forward to reading your comments thank you for reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    You don't ever stop being a newbie personally but its all about how people see you. You could be a guru to some but a newbie to the people above you.
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    • Profile picture of the author mahesh2k
      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      You don't ever stop being a newbie personally but its all about how people see you. You could be a guru to some but a newbie to the people above you.
      +1

      Perfectly put.
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    • Profile picture of the author karlhadwen
      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      You don't ever stop being a newbie personally but its all about how people see you. You could be a guru to some but a newbie to the people above you.
      Agreed, I also think everybody learns more tools and techniques daily so I do believe we've all got a little 'newbie' in us.
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    • Profile picture of the author ArnelRicafranca
      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      You don't ever stop being a newbie personally but its all about how people see you. You could be a guru to some but a newbie to the people above you.
      Well said. Most average guys think I am a genius when it comes to internet marketing. However, my goal is to never stop learning. That is how I progress. Just keep climbing the mountain. Don't know if that make sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Atkins
      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      You could be a guru to some but a newbie to the people above you.
      Who's above you? Nobody...

      When do you stop being a newbie?

      Whenever you want. With all the free info, marketing products,
      courses etc... you could learn top notch stuff in a very
      short amount of time.

      Then if you take action, you will make money, and plenty of it.

      You're no longer a newbie if you start making money. You could
      leverage whatever you're doing to make more.
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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by IM Headlines View Post

        Who's above you? Nobody...

        When do you stop being a newbie?

        Whenever you want. With all the free info, marketing products,
        courses etc... you could learn top notch stuff in a very
        short amount of time.

        Then if you take action, you will make money, and plenty of it.

        You're no longer a newbie if you start making money. You could
        leverage whatever you're doing to make more.
        There are people out there who are better then you, that is what I meant by above you.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffLam
    I believe it is a matter of your thinking and a matter of experience/track record.

    If you believe you are an expert at something, you are not a newbie.

    It may sound stupid, but it is true. How many times have we seen that superior who thought that he was great and an expert at what he do, but we all know he's totally clueless?

    Which brings me to the other point: experience/track record.

    If you have more experience at doing a particular specialty, you more often than not become really good at doing it and can be deemed an 'expert'. Now, 'expert' status is really objective and situational: you can be an expert among newbies but to be truly 'guru' status you have to be an expert amongst experts!

    What about track record? More often than not, track record is simply a term that means 'proof'. A good track record of yours in whatever you do shows people proof of your expertise, proof of your credibility, etc.

    Again, you must have seen the humble guy whom is really good at doing a certain thing, and is recommended highly by people. However, that guy is quick to be humble and does not trumpet his skills.

    That, IMO, is also an expert. But he is simply an expert from other's point of view.

    Hence, my point: you stop being a newbie when you believe you are not, and at the same time, allow others to believe the same too when you have experience and a good track record under your belt.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Bridges
    Hey Great Words of Wisdom there thank you for your reply!
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Originally Posted by Ben Bridges View Post

    we are all still learning right?
    I don't think there's one magic moment when you can say, "nope, I'm not a newbie any more." But the moment you're no longer a newbie doesn't mean you're necessarily an expert, either.

    Instead, I think of it as a continuum:

    [beginner] ---------------------------------- [Expert]

    We all fall on that continuum somewhere.



    But marketing is a huge topic, so you can also look at individual topic continuums, like this:

    [beginner SEO] ------------------------------ [Expert SEO]


    [beginner copywriting] ------------------------------ [Expert Copywriting]


    [beginner product creation] ------------------------------ [Expert product creation]



    And so on.

    The key is to figure out what you're good at and what you like. Then you can outsource the rest.

    cheers,
    Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
    Honestly, when you stop depending on others
    and start doing things yourself.

    When you stop asking questions and start
    answering them..

    We are all newbies when it comes to learning
    and new technologies...We all must continually learn.

    but the ability to help and to do things and see it
    through to fruition is what differentiates "newbies"
    from experts..

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author JeffLam
      Originally Posted by Ben Bridges View Post

      Hey Great Words of Wisdom there thank you for your reply!
      If you're referring to me, thanks!

      ..if not, well, umm, apologies for my jumping to conclusions. :p

      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      I don't think there's one magic moment when you can say, "nope, I'm not a newbie any more." But the moment you're no longer a newbie doesn't mean you're necessarily an expert, either.

      Instead, I think of it as a continuum:

      [beginner] ---------------------------------- [Expert]

      We all fall on that continuum somewhere.



      But marketing is a huge topic, so you can also look at individual topic continuums, like this:

      [beginner SEO] ------------------------------ [Expert SEO]


      [beginner copywriting] ------------------------------ [Expert Copywriting]


      [beginner product creation] ------------------------------ [Expert product creation]



      And so on.

      The key is to figure out what you're good at and what you like. Then you can outsource the rest.

      cheers,
      Becky
      You know, that's absolutely right IMO! Practical and true. That's how I want to be like too, and how many successful 'experts' in the world do it too.
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    • Profile picture of the author dorothydot
      Originally Posted by rapidscc View Post

      Honestly, when you stop depending on others
      and start doing things yourself.

      When you stop asking questions and start
      answering them..

      We are all newbies when it comes to learning
      and new technologies...We all must continually learn.

      but the ability to help and to do things and see it
      through to fruition is what differentiates "newbies"
      from experts..

      All the best,
      Absolutely right - you beat me to it!

      Once you start helping more than asking, you're well on your way.

      And of course we never stop learning - that's one of the biggest satisfaction of being a Copywriter!

      And of course we each of us have our own strengths - and so we always learn from other writers. But we also recognize our own strengths and can use them to their best advantage.

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  • Profile picture of the author JonMills
    We are all newbies, as things continue to change and we have to continue to learn.
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    • Profile picture of the author carlo_sim
      Originally Posted by JonMills View Post

      We are all newbies, as things continue to change and we have to continue to learn.
      Very true. When you admit to yourself that you are still a newbie it just means that you still want to learn. Once you feel that you are on top, there is no other way than to go down...

      Gian
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    • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
      Originally Posted by JonMills View Post

      We are all newbies, as things continue to change and we have to continue to learn.
      Well said. We never stop learning so we never stop being a newbie just graduate from one subject to the other
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  • Profile picture of the author pinks
    I think we should consider ourselves newbies when we are learning something "new".

    The problem with most newbies however is that they always remain a newbie.

    I am an example,I have been working on internet marketing since the last 4 years,but yet when I see newbie material,i tend to take it.

    The fact is, I cannot grow if I think I am newbie,it limits my confidence.

    After some time newbies need to feel they know stuff,not everything, but atleast they know something and so they are not newbies.

    Pinky
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    • Profile picture of the author thedogtreatjar
      I am loving all the humility in this thread

      And I agree wholeheartedly that humility is the fastest road to success. Always be open to new ideas and opportunities.

      Never stop learning and you will never stop earning!
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  • Profile picture of the author rcraig12
    Well Im a year in and I bang away at the keyboard daily. Guess what I make - Go on. OK I make as of jan 9th this year $700 a year lol.

    So I can say I have achieved a holiday for myself every year. Just need to keep tramping on for another couple of years to get the rest of the family with me lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Dailly
      As Internet Marketing is constantly evolving then we all tend to be newbies most of the time regardless how much experience you have. As there always seemed to be something new to learn.

      I think you feel you aren't newbie when feel you have gained enough knowledge and financial gain in a niche that you have dedicated yourself to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Powers
    well,it seems you are so competent.I think newbie is just a kind of call.And usually people judge it by time that you have entered this field.For those guys who have years experience,they are called veteran.But who cares exactly?Just spend more time on your business and focus on your goal.If you can see your progress,it's not very necessary for you to judge whether you're still a newbie or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Allen
    As others have mentioned - IMHO - I think we all need to be continually learning. The field of Internet Marketing is so vast that each of us will always be new to some areas. The truth is that it takes a lot to master any area of IM, and before jumping to another area of specialty we should focus on gaining a handle on what we are doing.

    I mean, thinking that an Internet Marketer will be good at every aspect of the profession is like expecting a doctor to be a specialist in every field - it is simply impossible. We can dabble in everything but we will always be a newbie in some fields. In fact, I hate the term 'newbie'. To me it implies that the person is completely new, when in fact they may not be new to IM, only new to the particular area being discussed. Maybe it's my nursing background but as a Nurse Educator we worked with the Novice to Expert continuum. It seemed to make sense to me.

    Anyway - back to the point, we all have to keep learning and outsource what we can't do on our own. Just my opinion
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    • Profile picture of the author Darren Tan
      Hmmm....

      I probably will want to be a newbie forever...

      Newbie that CREATES, rather than newbie that FOLLOWS.

      Regards,
      Darren
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      • Profile picture of the author webwriter
        I agree with everyone here, and would like to add that one officially stops being a newbie when his or her efforts nearly always result in streams of passive income that will support him or her. That person will not have to always depend on a regular job to provide income and leisure time. Just my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDawson
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    You stop being a newbie once you become an expert in your niche, you will always be a newbie in other niches, but your always an expert in the niche you excell in.
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  • Newbie is just a word. If I would sell an ebook I would concentrate on newbies, meaning people knowing less than me and therefore buy my book. If you would buy it en say: "That´s just some rehashed stuff I read a thousand times already.", you wouldn´t fit into my profile of a newbie.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcjmarkets
    I think the better question might be "When Do You Become A Guru"? My answer would be never, because the marketers that could be defined as Guru's in their respective Niches would never say that they are "Guru's"

    My answer to when you stop being a Noobie is when you learn how to play the game!
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  • Profile picture of the author ashsmh
    I think it is a very thin line. It all depends upon your thinking. If you think you know everything on a particular subject and there is nothing you need to learn on that subject, you are an expert else you are a newbie.
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