Ebook font size too big?

by Slin
25 replies
Hey guys,

I got a recent, well not complaint, more of a polite suggestion from a customer.

They were unhappy that I make most of my ebooks with size 15 font. They like the content, but not the font size.

They pointed out that this generally makes ebooks seem bigger then they are, and that they feel the large letters are harder to read.

Earlier I had someone else tell me they felt my font size was too small (I think I was using 12)

Do you have preferences? I enjoy larger font ebooks, but that could be because I am on a mini netbook laptop.

Just wanted to hear your thoughts.

- Nils Evensen
#big #ebook #font #size
  • Profile picture of the author Jvsnow01
    Hi there Slin,

    I was once advised to write my content using font size 12 in Arial.
    This also relates to the Font (design) itself.

    I believe the typical Fonts are Arial, Times Roman, maybe even Verdana or Tahoma.


    Could you not do a split-test and ask your subscibers for their reviews?

    Maybe chose a page or chapter (new or old content), select different fonts and font sizes and see what responses you'll get?


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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Or just simply tell them to use the magnify tool
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    • Profile picture of the author Krish2007
      Font 12 Arial or Times Roman are best, even though my preference is also for Font Size 12 of Bookmans Old Style.

      Krish
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    • Profile picture of the author garyfromdurham
      Hi

      It's a strange one and I think that it all depends on the content.

      I bought a WSO once and I was devasted when I first saw it because the font was huge.

      They spread what may have been one or two pages over 12 pages and my first thoughts were that they were trying to rip me off by being cheeky and taking a small article and pretending that it was enough material to fill a book.

      However I forgave them when I read it as the information was actually very good (I still thought that they were cheeky though, especially when I was printing out my giant sized font report!!)

      There is no getting away from the fact that some markerters do try and make the book look like more content than there really is by increasing the font size.

      My rule of thumb is that if the font would not look out of place in a kindergarden or in an old folks home then it is too big

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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    I always use 12pt Arial Justified.

    For a report or ebook, I set the lines to 1.5 to make the whole thing easier to read.

    It is much easier on the eyes.

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    • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
      In general with the printed page it's a good idea to set it
      up with 10-12 words per line. Whatever font size gets
      you that is pretty readable.

      PDFs are funny because 12 point is harder to read in a
      print-friendly font like Georgia. When you print Georgia
      out it looks great and is easy to read. Run it at 12 pt.
      however and it starts to look a little crabbed.

      The sans-serif fonts like Arial are less complex than the
      serif fonts like Georgia, so they render better in the smaller
      sizes on monitors.

      I say always use at least 12 point for online content. For
      PDFs I often use 14 or 15.
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  • Profile picture of the author aaronlamont
    It is a safe bet always to use size 12, its also a good size for those people who like to print out their pdf's that they have purchased. Also some people seem to feel that they have been mislead if they are sold an ebook that has a larger font just to bulk out an ebook to make it look larger.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    I've got a 1,000 page ebook for sale. Anybody want it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
        Originally Posted by dave147 View Post

        I was given a review copy of this and I learned a lot from it. Highly recommended
        OK, all kidding aside, I want to make sure there aren't any newbies out there who think I really am selling a 1,000-page ebook. I would not want you to buy anything that you see me offering and think it's gonna be anything like 1,000 pages.

        </disclaimer>
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary King
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      I've got a 1,000 page ebook for sale. Anybody want it?

      review copy please...

      he, he, just kidding of course, that was funny!
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  • Profile picture of the author fitz10
    I've found that Arial or Veranda 12 pt 1.5 spacing is easiest on the eyes. This font size is big enough to be read clearly by most, but small enough to avoid complaints about skimping on the information.
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  • Profile picture of the author P.Sharma
    size 10-12 in basic arial or times new roman or even cooperative is good. Anything bigger than that looks as if you are trying to add pages to your ebook
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay F
    Great advice as I'm getting ready with my first ebook. I see most people using Arial. I was always told by graphic designers that sans-serif fonts such as Arial are harder to read in paragraph form. But, it looks like with the extra line spacing, you have solved that problem.

    Is there anyone advocating a serif font?

    Given font sizes, Arial 12pt is much bigger than Times 12pt, so Arial will add to the page count, I believe.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      I think font size 15 is too big. If the content is good it doesn't matter that you'll lose a few pages.

      I wouldn't recommend using a default font like Times New Roman. I use Georgia which is a font specially designed for the web. Or use traditional book font like Palatino and Garamond.

      I use font size of 12-13. I used 14 before but I felt that was too big used just to get me to add a few extra pages. So I don't do that anymore.

      Headings, Chapter title I use a font size of 16 and bold.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        I use 14 pt Times New Roman, which seems to be a nice compromise. It's a serif font for easier offline reading, plus slightly larger than normal for easier online reading.

        Bear in mind, too, that, as Jay F brought up, not all fonts will be the same size at the same point size. So, 14 pt in one font is not going to be the same as 14 pt in another font. So, what may look huge at 14 pt in one font may look small at 14 pt in another font. That's yet another reason not to get too caught up on point sizes and concern yourself more with actual readability and not picking nits over point sizes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    The first thing is to think about your niche.

    If you are writing for everybody, then you should go for 14 point Ariel.

    However if you are writing for the elderly or teenagers then I would say go for 15 point, as old people don't see well, and teenagers lose concentration easily.

    Don't forget that PDF's are always adjustable in the viewer. It isn't really that bigger deal one way or the other.

    It is much more important what your content actually is, rather than the start up font size or page count.
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  • For PDFs, anywhere between 14 and 16. The whole idea is that they're designed to be read on the screen. I find it much easier the skim and scroll when displaying a whole page on the screen at any one time.

    Obviously, you've got to base this on a 'typical' sized screen. People on a netbook are always going to have to zoom in. People working at 1080p are always going to struggle to see the find detail unless they're sit inches from the screen.

    The other group who you may have to consider are those who like to print things out. There are various techniques they can use if they find the text size inappropriate (for instance 2 pages in 1), but you have to aim towards the mass market, those people reading on screen. If the printers are a big group, why not consider producing a properly formatted printed product on Amazon?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    I actually like larger fonts because it is better to read. But I once bought this ebook where the author used font 20. It felt like I will get carpal tunnel syndrome if I scroll down anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    Alright thanks guys

    I'll be switching the font, sounds like the 1.5 spacing is what I need.

    I am on a really small laptop, and I think this makes it a bit different. I have some ebooks where the print is just too small for me, or looks awkward and I have to mess with the zoom.

    Thanks for the help.

    - Nils
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  • Profile picture of the author bobsstuff
    I feel like I'm reading a children's book on anything over 12 point.

    15 point is way too big.

    Hey, I'm older and need reading glasses and I still think small fonts, like most books, newspaper and similar material is the proper font size.

    You never see a professional manuscript in huge font sizes.
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  • Profile picture of the author GaryJBloomer
    As a professional graphic designer my opinion is that setting a page of copy in 15 point makes the page look like an early reader book. I've been designing pages of text for 25 years, so please, trust me on this.

    For book work, with a page size of 8.5" by 11" in the US (and A4 for the rest of the world), stick with 12 to 13 point type set to a 15 or 17 point leading. Feel free to experiment with differing text sizes and leadings, but the more your page looks like a regular book, the easier it will be to read.

    The best typeface in terms of clarity for book page work is ITC Galliard (Garamond is too skinny and Times is too MS Word). Avoid using san serif fonts for book work if at all possible. By all means use serif fonts for sub heads and headings but avoid them in text pages for body copy.
    The serifs on Galliard (on all serifs really) help guide the eye along the path of the text.

    San serif fonts are preferred for Web use because of screen resolutions: serif fonts tend to lose definition on screen, but as much as possible, look at your book, even in PDF form, as a printed page, not as an electronic document. Many people like to print PDFs because it's easier to read a printed page than it is to sit in front of a monitor and read.

    As much as possible AVOID designing a book in Word. Microsoft Word is NOT a typesetting program and for the best overall look and feel for your final product, take the time to work with a graphic designer and see this as an investment, not as an expense.

    I hope this helps. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author James12C
    I found this on Google:

    Normal books usually have a font size of around 10 pt., depending on the font

    So there you are... eBooks may not be 'normal" though........
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