i need a mentor
 

can any one pls mentor me on internet marketing. am a newbie

can any one pls mentor me on internet marketing. am a newbie

Mentor Request
 

I can help you with the basics. Contact me for details.

This whole forum is a mentor in itself. Just check out "The best warrior threads" in the forum archives. The Warrior Forum

I'm pretty sure you don't need a mentor to succeed. Just read the forum to get ideas about businesses you can start online and post a thread asking for help as needed.

If you want a little more personal advice - once you find a business model in IM that you like buy a WSO on the topic, as these will often go in depth and take you step by step through the process. What makes buying a wso so great is that if you don't understand a step you can easily contact the author and get a personal response about how to proceed every time.

I would need a mentor too,

im aware of that the forum itself is a big mentor but still there is so immense of information we noobs dont know where to start and witch things to priority

Sorry for bitching.

But with this attitude you shouldn´t even begin.

If you want to make money, you have to work for it. IM is a business! Coming to a forum and requesting help within the first 3 posts just sucks. It says to me that you even didn´t look for answers you could seek.

So, if you are not willing to put time to learn, there is NO way you would succeed in anything in life, I guess. It´s just the mentality and mindset that is wrong with you guys ...

Ask you one question. What is so special about me, that I can just request help and everyone has to help me?

Sorry if I was rude or did piss anyone off... but dedication is the first thing you need and ...

I wish you all the best

Martin

No offence taken, actually very good points, agree to all of this

But my point wasnt to get a personal baby sitter and feed me with money making internet sites

What i would need is someone that directs me in the right direction, just tell me what to learn/find out first and i will because believe me.....for a noob is very much information here and it can get really confusing

go to renegade university .....basic steps there . free trial will help you get started

graham

The problem (I think anyway) with mentoring anyone would be the utter total commitment it would need. (From both parties).

Just as a matter of interest, what sort of monetry value would you put on something that is going to take a huge amount of someones time.

To be honest I'm with Martin

You get someone coming to the forum who in practically their first post bleats they want a mentor...

That's it...

No further info ....

Hang on a mo, I just got knocked over in the rush to oblige them (for gawds sake)

Kymi

well, I know it is difficult and IM is such a diverse field, that noone can mentor you all. It´s just their way they understand IM.

Another thing is, if you have money you can afford to invest or you have to do it all alone from scratch with 0!

Then, I guess, affiliate marketing would be the best and let´s do some common sense.

If you read John Taylors´s ( in fact: I recommend all his posts :) ) post about the big numbers game at http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...bers-game.html, you wuold notice one thing:

If every visitor to my site is worth $1 in average, what should be my goal? Of course, attract as many visitors as possible :)

And there would be alot of advice here in the forum about this topic.

Don´t have a site?

Build one!

What should I feed the site with?

Unique top notch content related articles, so your visitors trust you and you can "sell" them your products.

So, if you wanna follow my advice:

Make a todo list about the things I mentionned above. Be hungry and get all that information you need to setup those things. Then work on traffic and then let´s speak again.

My best wishes,
Martin

Let me give you your first piece of advice.

If you want to believable, add your name (real name), and your country of residence, to your profile.

Spend some HOURS reading, focusing on threads/posts that are clearly aimed at new marketers. You can also visit the old forum and read posts (thousands of them) there. I think the link is

The Warrior Forum - Active Topics

Start to learn the basics by reading the forum and searching with google to find terms you don't understand. Building a site, starting a blog, getting a domain, writing articles and site content, affiliate marketing - all of those have literally tons of free info available to learn from. Avoid sales pages - just look for tutorials.

When you ask for help, don't just beg "help me". Give some idea of who you are, what you've done so far, what you know and what you don't.

Once you start to do something on your own you are more likely to find those willing to advise you.

kay

What's a WSO? Newbies might not be familiar with the acronym

Warrior Special Offers - forum section just below this main discussion section

Exscuse Me For Taking A Different Approach
 

I honestly want to help point you in the right direction but you did not contact me. No prob.

I can see the point in all of the replies but since you are a newbie you may not. All of us, successful or not, have worked hard to learn what we have learned and most don't want to give it away, plus it makes you seem a little lazy.

Myself, I understand where you are coming from, IM is a very big field and a serious industry.

The main thing you need to get started is education.

First you need self education so you can decide what type of business you want to start.
Next you need to educate yourself on what tools you will need to build that business, this includes research into your business idea.
After that you need to plan and backup plan but don't take a year to do it, you have to get started.
Following that, you really need to understand that no matter what seems to work, it may not work for you. It will take a lot of trial and error to build a business. Earning money online and building a business are not the same thing.

This is not all inclusive but just a start.

You also need to understand how the net works. (content is still king and always will be)
How your customers think in an online world
You need to understand seo, sem, organic traffic, on page and off page variable...the list goes on.

On top of all that, if you are new and don't have much money, you will have to do thinks like create webpages yourself and not with a web editor (how would you fix problems?) as well as ftp, chmodd, cron job, boy it's a lot.

Okay, back to earth!

The first thing I would suggest is to read what interest you in this forum to get some ideas.
Then research your ideas and narrow them down to what works for you.

I agree, a mentor is a good thing, I have one myself. Why make dumb mistakes when you can learn from those who have already made them for you. On the other hand, if you don't learn the lesson then it's just a waste of time.

Starting an internet business is really truly simple once you understand the concept. The application of this concept is another beast all together.

1. You put up a site.
2. You drive targeted traffic to the site.
3. You presell the visitors who are most likely looking for what you have, hence targeted traffic.
4. You capture the visitors info like name and email.
5. You present them with THE OFFER and others in your own time while building a relationship of trust.
6. You keep selling to the buyers by creating what they want, how do you know what they want, ask them!
7. You learn and keep learning and become the go to guy or gal in your niche.
8. You grow your business step by step:
A. Mini Content sites
B. Mini Content site networks
C. Mother sites
D. Affiliate sites
E. Membership sites

And the coup de grace - Coaching with you, which is the ultimate product once you become a master of your little area of the net (never become a guru).

It is a lot to learn but fortunately you can practice for free with free blogs, hosting, websites, affiliate programs ad infinitum.

In a hurry to make some money? Sorry too bad! An overnight success is just for one night and you want to build a business.

Think about it and get back to me (I am not charging only networking).

The value of having a real mentor is that your duplicating their system, that's
already a proven money maker. Versus reading posts, ebooks, courses, etc...
which can only guide you and hopefully no key information was omitted. All of
which will not guarantee you that you will be successful.

The only problem I see is, who is going to really do such for free? I wouldn't.
I wouldn't do it even if someone offered me $100K. Probably take at least
$1MM to get me to do it. But then again, I've never understood the concept
of selling your secrets(system) for making money online. Now I can totally
see giving advice to someone, but just not handing your system over.

Just stick to this forum for some days and you'll feel your position have changed.. and today if you are asking for the guidance and tomorrow you'll be looking for someone to hear you..

I was going to keep quiet, but that's the worst piece of advice I've seen to such a question.

It's exactly the opposite!

The fact is - IM IS a very diverse field, but that's the very reason why having someone work out what type of approach will be more effective for you is a great idea.

Do you think it's co-incidence that most people who try and learn everything from the forums usually spend more money than they make?

There's a reason that so many people in forums are promoting signature files and repeating the same information that's already everywhere - They're not making money and they're desperately clutching at straws because they're confused by the shear amount of conflicting information about what works.

The truth is - most things work and you can make money in most niches - However, not every niche, or every method is right for every person.

So coming to the forum and reading what everyone else is saying and building your picture of the world on that is likely to result in your becoming just another one of the unsuccessful masses.

It's not impossible that by pure hard work and a bit of luck you could be different and get great results, but it's not normal.

Anyone coming to the forum and asking how to start will get advised to do the same crap that everyone else is doing - that's NOT the way to start a successful business. In fact, if you did the opposite of what most people are doing you're probably more likely to succeed.

So, as you can probably guess I don't think that having someone get help from a person who is able to put into context their skills, preferences and assets and point them in a direction that is more likely to be effective than if they just read what everyone in a forum said - is bound to help them.

The only way I can see that it wouldn't be useful is if they're getting help from someone who doesn't actually have the correct perspective and is just regurgitating existing information and not tayloring things for that person.

/rant

Andy

One thing we have to remember is that a newbie asking for a mentor does not only not know how to succeed at Internet marketing, but they likely also do not know the best way to ask for the help.

Chewing someone out because they didn't do it "right" is not as helpful as a different approach would be, nor does it make the Warrior Forum appear to be a friendly place where a newbie would want to become a part of the community.

Barry

I would love to have one
 

Hello,
this is a great thread,I would love to have a mentor as well.
As you can see I am a long time member here.
I have a few premium domain names that are just sitting
gathering dust.
My problem is that I am trying to reach perfection and I
am not able to do it by myself.
I need a mentor that has a strong boot that can kick
me where the sun don't shine.
The thing that hurts me most about this forum is
reading where people have made some nice money
in a short period of time.
I know it is not true,it does take time and being dedicated to it is the most
important part.

I remember posing the same question about a year and a half ago. I pretty much got the same replies, and I actually had some members toss me their latest products for free...

Did it work? Nope.

I putzed around with various things looking for that one thing that I could make work, when I ended up walking away for bit.

When I cam back, I asked the question again, but in a different way. I outlined some of the things I tried, and what I thought my interest were.

I then proceeded to spend 2 hours on a skype call one Saturday afternoon with a UK warrior here that got me going in the right direction. We really figured out what my passions were, what my talents were, what I really WANTED to do, and then he sent me on my way.

That 2 hour FREE conversation changed my entire perspective on IM. Since that day I have continued to better myself and my business(along with my income) from the IM market.

The great thing was..I already had the answers, I just needed someone to put them in perspective for me. Of course I did the work, but in relation to finding WHAT was going to work for me, that was the hard part, not the work itself.

So I will never begrudge anyone here who asks for help. However, I would hope that those asking for help can at least be honest with themselves on their abilities, passions, and general interests and be able to convey them so others may be able to help.

I am sure 95% of the people that ask probably will never put forth the work to be successful. But man, that 5% that do would certainly make you feel good wouldn't it? Knowing you helped someone else become successful or at least put them on a path to success? To me that's worth it.

~Keith

There lies the problem

Why on earth are you striving for perfection, if that's what your'e reaching for, you'll never get anywhere

Here's a piece of advice (for what its worth)...

Throw a website up, it doesn't matter how horrendous it is to start off with, just get it up there. The feeling of acomplishment you'll get from that is amazing. If you wait until it's perfect, you'll be waiting for ever.

Once it's up, start polishing it, make it look good. practice with it

Also get a decent editor and get some decent hosting

Kymi

Just reading through the posts in this thread, I've noticed a lot of signature links, including mine, offering what amounts to mentoring for newbies at bargain prices. Pick a link and click it.

Otherwise, just pull up a chair and browse the forums. It's all in here and it's free. Or you can click a link, spend a little money and have it spoon fed to you...or you can hire a mentor, for big bucks, and get your hand held too.

You have three choices for your internet marketing education:

1)You can have it fast and good (a mentor) but it won't be cheap.

2)You can have it good and cheap (click a link or just read forums) but it won't be fast. You're going to have to invest some time.

3)You can have it fast and cheap (pick a get-rich-quick-scheme) but it won't be good...in fact it probably won't be cheap in the long run...Come to think of it, it won't be fast either since it'll just sidetrack you from your real education.

You know what? I think you'd better just forget about nmber 3 :P

I've got a 3 or 4 hundred ebooks you can pretty much have if that will help you but I'm not looking to partner up, I am already running about 21 sites, granted, many are content or affiliate sites but I'm willing to help you stock up.

Ok

I read all the replys and i dont blaim you at all

I have been participating for 6-7 years in a real cash economy game.

In that game forum i have also seen 15 year old kids create threads named "-how to get rich here?"

And the responses was the same as here, and i really understand you so no hard feelings at all. We had also kids comming to us thinking they could with no what so ever effort or knowledge get rich and they dissapeard really quick, i guess here too.

My problem here is when you say to me to watch others peoples sigi links and join them and learn form them.

Well, i dont want to offend anyones sigi link here but seriously!
They all look the same, fell free to call me dumb i wont argue against it but, if you seen a few sigi links here you have seen them all

I mean, are you surprised that we noobs get suspicious when every link is about getting ultimate profiting advice and a paypal link?

About mentoring:

I have no idea what the thread starter meant, i would guess its the same as i experienced in my real cash economy game with the 15 year olds but im not here to judge.

what i mean with a mentor is what someone allready mentioned here
help to get on the right track, for sure a mentor will see my misstates faster then me, discover something i wont see

besides its lot easier to get order from one person that tells you to do some tasks then go through thousands of threads, threads and information that im atm to low experienced to judge witch are important and witch are not

So no people, i dont want to steal your source code to wealth, just a smash in the face to see the right direction, thats all:)

Hello,

Buddhist proverb “When the student is ready, the master appears.”

I'm ready for my mentor to appear. After 18 months of study, setting up a dozen sites, writing an ebook, a software product, learning dreamweaver, php, css, seo, ppc, security etc with small successes, many failures and deathly silence, I feel that a logical next step would be an interested mentor.

A certain guru's company's offer of 5 half-hour sessions for $3000 wasn't so attractive. But that's just me.

Peace,

Steve

Search Engine like Google is very useful to ask your questions.I always type questions which comes in my mind in google search and mostly I found results answering my questions. You can also post your question here in related forum and we will try to answer you.

pricing
 

Hi Steve,

That's an interesting comment.

Since YOU are the only one who really understands what the possible impact of the success you're aiming at is - your comments seem to indicate that you don't think your business could be made very successful - even with 5 sessions working with a 'Guru'.

So, either you don't think what's on offer is actually high quality - or you don't put much value on your own business.


When I went on a coaching course, we were all asked how much we would charge for our time/service. My figure was way higher than anyone elses - but we were then told that the amount you charge is a reflection of what you believe the value is.

So, whoever is asking for $3k for 5 sessions must believe that they're worth it.

If they are way over-priced compared to what they deliver, they won't be able to sustain the business easily as word will spread.

However, if the people coming to them have successful businesses and are getting a new perspective and easily adding $10k to their bottom line, then it's a complete no brainer.

So this opens up the issue of - who gets what value from this type of arrangement.

If you are a struggling beginner it may be that what you really need is a bog picture perspective about why you're starting and what resources you have at your disposal (including your motivation and preferences, not just skills and money)

If you're already successful, time-management and accountability might be where you'll get the most benefit.

You get the idea.

So, depending on where you are in your journey and what your mindset and resources are - maybe an expensive coach/mentor is not right for you - or alternatively what will make all the difference is just someone bringing you out of the details and reminding you what it was that you were trying to achieve and why.

For many people in IM the problem is that they've been drawn into an IM details world, where they're constantly thinking about lists, blogs, ppc, PLR etc... when actually they could start a successful business from scratch if they just stepped back and looked at what value they have and who they could offer it to.

Many IMers are doing things with no idea about what the results will be - That's madness in any business, but if your IM business is based on not expecting great results, then spending money and time on things with no clear idea of what the return will be might not seem crazy. It's only when you forget IM and think logically about what makes sense that it becomes clear.

Andy

The only kind of mentor you want is someone ethically making a killing online.

2 years ago I accomplished this by luck. Take this and find someone to bud with.

killing
 

Just make sure you're clear about 'killing'. Some people seem to think making a few grand a month is a killing, but there are a LOT of people doing much more than that, so go for the person/people who are at the level you're aiming at, not just anything more than you.

Having a mentor does help speed up the process by leaps and bounds, you just have to look at the choices and make sure that they have a proven track record, make sure that you can afford to pay for their package/mentorship/bootcamp, make sure that a certain guarantee & promise is offered by this mentor.

You need to actually understand that this mentor can only do so much for you, you need to be on the ball and do what this mentor says, if they say blog 3 times a day do it, if they say write x amount of articles a day..do it.

Your goal is to reach a certain level of success and there are some real good mentors out there, you just have to look, do not jump at everything you see, just compare what you find and eventually join their mentorship program if it sounds good to you.

I agree with Andy, some of the advice given is terrible.

People can mentor or coach others even if the fields are different. For the majority of people they have no idea how to start, what their skills are or anything else. It often takes a third party to draw that out from them.

Take people like Bob Proctor do you think he has experienced every problem known to mankind, or do you think he is good at his job?

You need to discover your strengths and your weaknesses, and then build on them.

Lou I understand the perfection thing but there are ways around that as well.

PM me, I do phone consultation with people... there's a fee "of course", but you get the info and motivation you need to succeed...

I have a coaching team if you need that, or you can work with me personally...

My mentor earns $3,000,000 a year :)

He has told me some fun stuff about this "internet marketing stuff".

/Chris

A problem with perception

If I was to invest $3000 on 5 half hour sessions with a guru then went on to make $10k a month within a few months time, is it money well spent, (I'd have thought so)

That's the problem...

You get people coming on the forum wanting folks to wave a magic wand to create them a business (repeat after me acrabadabra) :rolleyes:

Yeah if you can find a really good mentor, expect to pay for it, why on earth should they spend hours doing it for nothing. (I definitely wouldn't)

To be honest (and I speak as someone who who used to mentor nursing students regularly when I worked on the wards).

Mentoring someone is hard work, it takes commitment from both sides, and very often one side will fail the other.

To be honest I wouldn't mentor someone for $5k per 5 hour sessions, (and I can assure you it's the type of price I would be looking at), simply because I couldn't cope with the hassle of someone wating me to do everything for them. (and yes most people would).

To me mentoring is facilitating, guiding people in the right direction.

For instance one of the things I might do is say to the person I was mentoring, (off the top of my head), is spend 2 hours surfing the internet for traffic generation programs then write me a 1000 word essay on why traffic generation is so important!

How many people would do that, how many people would be aware of why I asked them to do that, How many people would be pissed at me for asking them!

Nope I can imagine, what they would want is a short cut to making money online. (with me building it for them).

What's the point, you need to know how to do it correctly for yourself and that means learning the ropes from the ground upwards. Especially if you want to build a sustainable business

Kim

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-prepared.html

This is for anyone who is serious that they want to be mentored/coached but not for anyone who doesn't want to be serious and work

lol your a braver woman than me Bev, be interesting to see how it pans out

Kymi

Hi Andy,

Thanks for the personal reply. I agree with many things you wrote. I'll comment on some of them but will focus on things with which I may not fully argree.

if you omit the word 'even' I would agree.

I stare at your statement wonder how you could be satisfied having found only two possibilities. That aside, another possibility is that I know what I want and what's on offer isn't it -- high-quality or not.

I'm sure they are worth it to many, just not to me. That's not the scenario I seek. It has little to do with quality. Think of a romantic scenario. Perhaps an attractive, quality man offers himself to me. No matter what his offer, I doubt I'll accept. I don't want a man.

I confess I don't believe, in my case, that 2.5 hours could add $10K to my business. If I am wrong, I will be the worse for it. I can live with that. We each have to make our own blind evaluations.

I agree. In the chess world its anecdotal that grandmasters aren't always the best coaches nor are they the least expensive. The same anecdote claims that an interested amateur is often the best coach. I was lucky enough to find a near-master as a coach. He coached me out of his love for the game and because he enjoyed my novel take on chess training. I reciprocated by helping him with technical things and in other ways.

Powerful point. You have inadvertently mentored me. Thank you :)

That is an insightful observation. However, I believe that there is a time for that kind of infantile thrashing. The IM 'baby robin' phase is necessary, important. A baby robin needs to make mistakes -- as long as they are not fatal.

That one, I like.

Thanks again Andy,

Steve

Kim I did it before and had some who worked really hard. It is only 1 person this time, as I'm working with some other people at the moment.

I have had some failures, in that they didn't want to work. But those who were serious have gone onto making an income online

for those who are serious will definitely go through the obstacles in making money online. those who are not serious get discouraged along the way and gave up.

I would go even further as to say the best mentors out there cannot be bought for ANY amount of $X/hr.

Because they make their money by DOING IT, not by TEACHING IT. Their knowledge and experience just isn't for sale, because they're too busy making money with what they know.

They're businesspeople, not self-employed consultants.

If you happen to have something they want and get the chance to be "taken on-board" by one of these guys, you don't become a protege... you're a PARTNER... and they want ROYALTIES FROM FUTURE PROFITS... or if they're smart, they'll ask for an EQUITY SHARE in your business. And you thought $3,000 was expensive for world-class mentoring.

Now you BOTH have skin in the game... your success is their success... the more money you make, the more money they make. That's why, as Kim says, WHO you are as a person is more important to a mentor than a monthly cheque.

This is my opinion. Nothing more.

-JasonKing

Hi Jason,

In my eyes you have cut to the heart of mentoring.

Yes, until you have something of extreme value to offer the master mentor, you may be out of luck.

I watched a documentary some years ago saying that that is also how money lenders work in many non-western countries and that it works well.

Your post deserves stickying. It re-introduces reality into the idea of mentorship and slaps us with the preciousness of a real mentor and how we must prepare ourselves for him or her.

Humble too :) You've got the lot.

All the best,

Steve

I think MohadinFM was making the point that who you learn from may depend on what type of IM you decide to do. You can hire a coach/mentor to lead you through the entire process or you can learn from experts in various areas of IM.

The OP joined - made a few posts saying "help me" and "mentor me" - did not answer those who offered - and has not been back to the thread. Even the best mentor cannot help someone who does not participate in helping himself.

Time is finite. Time and again I've seen members in this thread step forward to help a new marketer who needed a boost to keep going. True, you can't learn everything from any forum. You can make the contacts necessary to learn and find the resources you need.

Kim said
and she's right on the money!

kay

money
 

And the other side of the coin is that you don't necessarily have to pay for a mentor.

My mentor learns from me as I learn from him.

No-one finishes learning, so we're all really just on individual journeys and as we go we meet people who are on similar journeys but further ahead or behind us on the road.

We can all benefit from interacting with and learning lessons from others - but the timing needs to be right for the situation to be mutually beneficial.

The ways and methods I was using to help people 5 years ago are different from now, so who I am and what I have to offer has changed, and the people that help me most are different to a few years ago too.

There are almost always opportunity to move forward, but it's also easy to waste time focused on things which are not moving you towards your goals.

The issue of money just gets in the way. When the situation is mutually beneficial - it's also usually an easy decision to make. If the decision is not clear, the situation probably isn't right or more information is needed.

Where someone is charging $10k for 'caoching/mentoring', if you can speak to previous/existing clients and find out whether the benefits they're getting (if any) would apply to you in a way that offers more value than the money - it can still be an easy option, but there are more things to consider than the monetary factors.

Andy

One 3 letter word form Andy Henry changed my life!
 

There was a Time a little over a year ago when I got stuck.

Yes, Stuck. I had so many things going on that I couldn't make progress in any direction I went.

Then out of the Blue Andy Henry offered to help a few people out and I was one of them.

Our talk lasted about 20 minutes(I talked for 19 of them)and the only thing Andy said to me was, Why are you stuck? That alone set a series of events into motion.

First I sat down and listed everything that was stopping me from reaching my goals. eliminated them and was on the road again.

Coaching/Mentoring isn't just about learning how to make money. It also includes how to Think and do it in a productive way!

When Andy and I finished our talk. I asked Andy if it would be alright for me to contact him in the future in case I run into another problem and he as a True Warror and Great person said sure.

To this day I have not had to do so because every time I get stuck on something I just ask myself "Why are you stuck" Then I answer the question and move on.

Thanks Again Andy for you Time and that one simple reply. "Why?" ;)

Have a Great Day!
Michael :cool:

thanks
 

Thanks Michael.

I'm really happy to hear that you're empowered to get your own answers with such a simple system that you know you can rely on.

Most of the most productive insights are very simple.

Basic questions like:

Are you building a business that you would want to end up with?

If you get the success you're after - will you be happy with what is required to maintain it?

Why are you starting a business? and is this business going to give you that outcome?

Can you reasonably expect the actions you're taking to achieve the end result you say you want?

What is your USP (unique selling proposition)? (why should people be spending money with you in particular)

What extra value is your business bringing to the market?

What's stopping you - is it a real obstacle?


These simple questions are often enough to give someone an 'ahah' moment and realise a fundamental problem with the way they're approaching their business.

Getting help is not all about the details of IM or which niche you're working in - most often you could make money in many ways/niches, so it's your attitude and approach that is where the work for increasing success can be more effective.

Andy

I agree that a mentor is a good idea. But how to find a good one? Now that is the question.

It's not about money. I can afford it, but I cannot afford throwing money at some incompentent fellow offering vague responses to my questions and wasting my time (and money) in the process. It's mostly about time, in my case.

So how do you find a mentor you can really trust?

We're all holding our breath to see if someone can come up with the answer (and no I'm not being sarcastic)

Mentoring mean different things to different people. its maybe not a question of finding one you can trust, but someone who is compatible with yourself!

Kymi

You don't seem to be particularly open to the idea of mentoring, in the first place, or particularly friendly to newbies, so I guess I am still waiting for my answer.

Before any commitments are made, individuals should meet with a number of potential mentors – that is, sit down with them and discuss career aspirations, what each person expects from the mentoring relationship, and learn more about each other as individuals.

so i take it you have this kind of threads once in a while and all end up the same.

Maybe why not create some sticky thread with names of people that are up for mentoring and we noobs could go pick from there instead of having the same conversation over and over

in a year 2, 5 whatever, i dont be a noob but there will be others and the threads will start again