Link Building Question

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Hello I have A couple questions about link building and I would greatly appreciate your feedback. I keep hearing about people talking about building links too fast and google slapping sites who are building too fast. But how many links should be built per day? Especially with A new site?

I am kind of frustrated because in just about every ebook or wso or guide you read sure they tell you how they build links. But never does anyone mention how to space out the links and tell you how much is too much.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author PerigVe
    Hi,

    I think nobody tell because nobody know. Only Google knows. It also seems to point to the conclusion that what's important is the quality of the links more than the quantity. Try to find places with High-PR pages, blogs, forums to participate on.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikkosant
    Try looking up some information on link velocity. Basically, it means you should continue building links month to month at increasing rates and you will be safe. For example, building 10,000 links in 5 days and then not building any for the next 3 months will probably get whatever your trying to rank slapped or sandboxed(whatever you want to call it).

    Just think if you were google, would you trust a site that get links all the time and growing from month to month or a site that may have more links, but got them all in a short period of time.

    Main point - If your building links manually, it's going to be pretty hard for google to sense something is wrong(spammer). But, however fast your building links, try to continue building links at the same rate or increasing rate each month. Do not just shut everything off after building thousands of links.

    Vary your anchor text and build more backlinks than you did the previous month. Eventually, you can stop(50 new links a month), but only you will be able to tell when that time is calling.

    Having a diverse link profile is important. i.e. article submission, directory, social bookmarking, blog commenting, profile links, video submission. etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author michael_nguyen
    Everyone has their own opinions and here's mine. Build as many backlinks as you can and DON'T vary your anchor text for the given URL.

    Regarding Google flagging you because 1 month you have 500 backlinks and then next month 2 backlinks etc. If this were the case, you can do this to your competitors...Google doesn't quite work like that.

    New sites disappear for many reasons. You would have to be Google bombing to have Google
    really flag your site and the fact is, not all your links will be found at once. When I submit to web directories, I go all out and do that 500 listed because I know that Google won't find them all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce4573
    Hi I have been doing this for a while and I think if you get a steady flow of links over a long period of time and your traffic builds your site will get up fast enough but become trusted and stay longer. You still have to get quality back links.

    My thought is on articles you need volume for seo and quality for conversions but I to do not know just how fast is safe but I think most people can imagine what is way to much.

    I started a photo site this week to give away to people doing squidoos and hubs. Right after I posted it on the course forum I am in I had 200 page views, the next day I had 28 spiders? is this good or do i have to buy raid bug killer ha ha.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I got a ton of links from my last press release, way outside my usual pattern. It didn't hurt a thing, if anything, it helped. Having said that, I think it's wise to build up to higher and higher levels. If your site grows by 50 links month and all of a sudden you get 10,000 it does look a little fishy. A lot of what Google does in regards to cheating is based on pattern detection.

    Again, I doubt there's any specific number that will set off alarm bells, if anything would, it would be really wild swings in your normal link pattern. Even at that, it wouldn't automatically trigger any penalization.

    In fact, according to my source, Google won't punish a site because of inbound links because we really have no control over who links to our sites. The worst that would likely happen if they thought you were cheating is your site wouldn't receive 100% of it's link juice, and even then it would only apply to your questionable links. That could seem like it's being penalized if you were used to getting it, but unless Google was 100% convinced you were cheating, a reduction in link juice would all they'd do in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    Originally Posted by tristate81 View Post

    But how many links should be built per day?
    No more than one a day if you're competing in the same niche as me.

    You can't build "too many links" in a day as long as you don't use massive and detectable automation and aren't trying to rank for a highly competitive term that is commonly and heavily spammed, such as bad credit, weight loss and male enhancement.

    Here are two of my favorite examples of sites that got links very fast and didn't have a problem.

    100K links in the first 6 weeks: There, I Fixed It

    8K links in 1 week, 14K in 2 weeks and a .info to boot: Move Your Money
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Busa
      I usually start building links that day I make a post or what ever I am trying to promote. Really from my experience I have not received any slaps for any of my sites and have done this many of times. I have achieved #1 ranking for my keyword without slaps and a brand new site very fast. The thing is you will drop in ranking when you stop your promotion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe118
    Originally Posted by tristate81 View Post

    Hello I have A couple questions about link building and I would greatly appreciate your feedback. I keep hearing about people talking about building links too fast and google slapping sites who are building too fast. But how many links should be built per day? Especially with A new site?

    I am kind of frustrated because in just about every ebook or wso or guide you read sure they tell you how they build links. But never does anyone mention how to space out the links and tell you how much is too much.

    Thanks
    Build slowly and steadily. You will get slapped only if you engage in:
    1. Obvious spamming of 1000s of links to your site in a short time or
    2. Out of the ordinary back link creation activity or
    3. Buying links from known link sellers or
    4. Unnatural linking patterns
    If your site is very well established like ezinearticles or wikipedia, obtaining 1000s of new links on some days is not a cause for concern. If your site is new, it is.

    If your site gets on average 5 new links a day and all of a sudden it gets 10K links, that is a cause for concern.

    If you buy links from known sellers, you're just asking for it, IMHO.

    And if you only have dofollow links or all links coming from domains owned by the same person, or all links with the same anchor text, or ... anything that can be identified as a pattern, that is a reason for concern.

    Google always operates on the principle of reasonable doubt. If it cannot prove that the new back links are the result of a planned campaign then it won't penalize your site. Remember Google has access to a lot of information, and it can discern patterns and unnatural behavior very easily.

    Even if it discerns a concerted effort to obtain backlinks, Google will not necessarily penalize your site. It will just discount the links that it identifies as part of that pattern. Why? Because it cannot be sure that it's you, the webmaster owner of the site, that did it -- it could be a competitor trying to trip you up.

    Steady and random link building with a variety of link sources, mixing both dofollow and nofollow, varying the anchor text, and a lot of other factors -- that's the way to go. Steady and random may seem like a contradiction, but what I mean is that instead of building exactly 52 backlinks each day, you want to average out to some number like that, but not give Google a pattern to latch onto.

    Finally a word about the scary behavior a lot of people observe: that their site used to rank at position X for some keyword and all of a sudden, after creating new backlinks, your site sinks in the ranking or disappears altogether.

    This is in actuality a very good thing. It means that Google is recomputing the right place your site should rank in, based on your new back links. In other words, it means that these links (a) have been discovered and (b) are being taken into account.

    HTH.
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