Website Flippers I Have a Quick Question

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I am in the process of flipping my first site. I have a few PMs about what the reserve price is.

For those of you who have flipped sites before, is it a good idea to tell them?

I recon it is, maybe the want to buy it at the end of the auction and they'll know the reserve if it hasn't already been met.

Appreciate your advice on this one.
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  • Profile picture of the author NateDesmond
    Originally Posted by SaSeoPete View Post

    I am in the process of flipping my first site. I have a few PMs about what the reserve price is.

    For those of you who have flipped sites before, is it a good idea to tell them?
    I am by no means an expert in site flipping, but I have sold one website/blog.

    I would recommend not telling the reserve because I would expect that to encourage more bidding activity.

    On the other hand, refusing to share your reserve price could also turn away buyers.

    Overall, I would probably not share the reserve price if someone asked me, but I am not sure what would be the best choice.
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  • Profile picture of the author SaSeoPete
    Thanks Nate. I agree with what you say to an extend but...

    It almost becomes an act of goodwill to show your cards, but I could be very wrong here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Slim Shady
      I would probably have to second that opinion. The Reserve Price Should Be kept Secret. This is my thought. I am trying to sell a website also and am still learning. I think Flippa is a great website to do that.

      I was on there today, I was wondering if anyone knows what the success fee is and how much the buyer and seller has to split when the seller sells to the buyer.

      Just curious if anyone knows about the success fee.

      Thanks,
      Ray
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      • Profile picture of the author SaSeoPete
        Originally Posted by Slim Shady View Post

        I was on there today, I was wondering if anyone knows what the success fee is and how much the buyer and seller has to split when the seller sells to the buyer.

        Just curious if anyone knows about the success fee.
        Hey Ray,

        the success fee is 5%. There are 3 options. You can pay it yourself, split it 50/50 or get the buyer to pay.

        I thought that I would pay to try make the pot sweeter.
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  • Profile picture of the author yommys01
    Yeah tell. However, always make sure you Reserve price is very close to the BIN price. I notice people don't bother bidding again once the reserve has been met.

    Not always be majority of the time people don't bid again once another person has met the reserve price.
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    • Profile picture of the author SaSeoPete
      Originally Posted by yommys01 View Post

      Yeah tell. However, always make sure you Reserve price is very close to the BIN price. I notice people don't bother bidding again once the reserve has been met.

      Not always be majority of the time people don't bid again once another person has met the reserve price.
      Thanks yommy, that makes a lot of sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
    I never use a reserve price. I set my minimum bid to the minimum I will take. That is my 'reserve'.

    As a buyer of auctions (not web sites) I always review a reserve price as a seller's ploy to not sell an item and hide things. I prefer 100% transparency on people I deal with online.

    I guess though if you are trying to sell an item and create a lot of activity with lots of bids, setting a low ($1) starting price and having a reserve price would be the way to go, but if you are worried the bids won't go high enough, then I would work on the value of the site to make sure it is worth what you are trying to get.
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    • Profile picture of the author SaSeoPete
      Originally Posted by VegasGreg View Post

      I never use a reserve price. I set my minimum bid to the minimum I will take. That is my 'reserve'.

      As a buyer of auctions (not web sites) I always review a reserve price as a seller's ploy to not sell an item and hide things. I prefer 100% transparency on people I deal with online.

      I guess though if you are trying to sell an item and create a lot of activity with lots of bids, setting a low ($1) starting price and having a reserve price would be the way to go, but if you are worried the bids won't go high enough, then I would work on the value of the site to make sure it is worth what you are trying to get.
      Thanks Greg,

      Yeah I was in two minds about how to start. I went the $1 with a reserve route. Now when they ask me I also want to be as transparent as possible. I'll see how this one turns out.
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    • Profile picture of the author yommys01
      Originally Posted by VegasGreg View Post

      I never use a reserve price. I set my minimum bid to the minimum I will take. That is my 'reserve'.

      As a buyer of auctions (not web sites) I always review a reserve price as a seller's ploy to not sell an item and hide things. I prefer 100% transparency on people I deal with online.

      I guess though if you are trying to sell an item and create a lot of activity with lots of bids, setting a low ($1) starting price and having a reserve price would be the way to go, but if you are worried the bids won't go high enough, then I would work on the value of the site to make sure it is worth what you are trying to get.
      I don't mind to argue with you here. I have made about $7k from November till date flipping sites but still think I am a newbie.

      But with my little experience, I sincerely think putting the minimum too high will not attract people.

      You want as many people bidding on it as possible. I can remember a site I sold for $3999 in November, the first bid was the minimum bid which was about $50 if I have not forgotten.

      There are those who will not buy the site but will still bid on it if the minimum bid is very small. You are not going to sell the site for the minimum bid but it helps to kick start the auction.
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  • Profile picture of the author gsport11
    Re. Success Fee: 5 percent. The seller determines who will pay the fee. May choose seller paying it; buyer paying it; or split equally between buyer and seller.

    As for reserve...I see no logical reason to reveal that information. A reserve price is kept secret by Flippa (and eBay, etc.) for a reason, and they have the data to back them up.
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    • Profile picture of the author NateDesmond
      Originally Posted by gsport11 View Post

      As for reserve...I see no logical reason to reveal that information. A reserve price is kept secret by Flippa (and eBay, etc.) for a reason, and they have the data to back them up.
      Great point!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    My answer would be, I'll tell you the reserve price after you place a bid. This will keep the momentum going, even if the bidding is currently much lower than the reserve.
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    • Profile picture of the author SaSeoPete
      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      My answer would be, I'll tell you the reserve price after you place a bid. This will keep the momentum going, even if the bidding is currently much lower than the reserve.
      Yeah I like that. I'll try this on the next few PMs I get. Thanks Gene.
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    • Profile picture of the author bleedgreen
      I am new to this internet income, so I have a dumn question, bit here I go.

      What kind of websites are you flipping.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slim Shady
    Makes sense gsport11, I would agree!

    What would your advice be on the 3 options:
    The Seller Should Take Care Of It?

    I also like the $1.00 Beginning Price and The Reserve Price. What is your opinion is the best way to go about it?
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  • Profile picture of the author SuiteJ
    I've sold a lot of sites on Flippa, and if I have a reserve and someone asks via PM, I tell them.

    In my experience, if someone is asking for the reserve via PM, it's often because they're interested in placing a bid for that amount. You've placed the reserve at a price you're willing to accept, so why keep it a secret to a potential buyer? Maybe the BIN price is over their budget but they want to try their luck at grabbing it at the reserve price.

    I've had several buyers ask me and then immediately bid that amount.

    If you get over the reserve early, that's a good thing, because when other potential buyers view your listing, they see that others think it's worth the price (and are willing to buy), and that helps to validate their own interest in your site.

    Buyers already know why you posted a low starting bid with a reserve (to get more action started quickly), so I see no reason to be secretive about the reserve amount via PM.

    There are other benefits to gaining a higher number of bids though. You can actually gain more exposure from getting a higher number of bids. Not only because people will be more curious by the # of bids and be more likely to click through to view the listing, but also because the higher number of bids you get, the higher your listing will rise in the "most active" section. I've tested that by starting at $1 with no reserve, and had way more action/results because my site ended up in the top 5 most active.

    Different approaches can work for different types of sites, so keep those things in mind and "test" things out for yourself (if you plan to continue flipping the same type of sites consistently).
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