How Would You Market Online to Find Possible Investors for a Large Bahamas Resort ?

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If I am in the wrong forum for posting this please let me know. This is regarding making money with IM so I thought that this should be the right area.

I have a friend that owns around 400 acres of land in the Bahamas and has detailed business plan, architectural drawings, financial synopsis and all permits from the Bahamian government for a very large multi million dollar Resort with several phases that will be the older Victorian Style theme buildings, Dive Shop, Art District, Restaurants, Shops ect. as well as one of the largest private docking facilities in the islands. He has spent several years in the Bahamas and knows how to get things done thru the government. The government as one of the many incentives for this development has agreed to enlarge the airport runway to accommodate commercial aircraft on a nearby island.
There is way too much detail to include here but I agreed to help him look for investors and thought that there has to be a way to attract possible investors with IMing but I am not sure how to go about it. Would you set up a blog and do some article marketing to draw traffic or?
How would you use IM to attract possible investors ?

Thanks for your input.
Best Regards
Deckman
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    Hi Deckman, there's a chance that your topic is too far off the Internet marketing theme for this forum. If that happens, you're welcome to continue the conversation with me by private message.

    You have a challenging project! Even with the tourism draw of Las Vegas, financing for City Center hung by a thread. Several other billion-dollar projects got canceled or taken over with unfinished construction. And look at the news reports of Dubai's troubles. This shows that "build it and they will come" might not be a winning strategy in the current economy, even in the places where the most people with money come to see what's new and spectacular.

    Investors might be a bit wary of major resort investments for a while. Given the recent news about trouble with banks and commercial real estate, I imagine that finding the funds might be unusually challenging right now.

    So the first question is whether now is the best time, or whether it's better to put the venture on the shelf for a while. If you can get it built, there won't be much competition for brand new resorts when it opens. But will the economy support enough people coming to it?

    If you want to press on:

    I would start by making a list of all the comparable size resorts around the world. I'd find out who funded them, and how the vision got in front of the investors for their consideration. What is the story of what happened between dream and groundbreaking? I'd look for what techniques have been proven most successful to reach investors. How many used the Internet to find their funders?

    My guess is that the most useful technique was personal connections between friends and business associates. "Hey John, you mentioned you're looking to invest in something different, did you hear about that big new resort project in the Bahamas?" Your best bet here would be to play golf with the right people, or get your proposal into the hands of someone who plays golf, or went to school with, or already does business with the right people.

    My guess is that the second most successful fund-raising effort might be the use of an investment banking firm to establish the investment syndicate, for an up-front fee plus a percentage when the deal closes.

    In the U.S. you need to be very careful about promoting investment opportunities, so that you don't wind up on the wrong side of the security laws.

    Once you have your homework, then the question is how much use the Internet could be. Are there that many Google searches for keyword terms like "investment opportunity resort Bahamas?"

    Once people do learn about the concept, do they really want to download everything or would they expect that their attorneys or accountants will take care of obtaining however many notebooks and file boxes it takes to document things? The people with the money are more likely to be in an older generation that expects to read papers on their desk. They won't be bothered that there's not an app for that.

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author digigo
    Market it just like any other real estate.. you are selling the land.. is Bahamas government friendly to foreign ownership? you should have no problem selling the land.. it is only 100 miles south of Florida..

    Is your friend willing to divide? Not sure about the price tag of that 400 ac.. but smaller tract of lands will be more workable for a lot of more investors...
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    Read Felix Dennis's book "How To Get Rich" - as he covers
    the raising of capital from the point of view of somebody
    who actually succeeded wildly in business before writing
    anything about how to do it... unlike most authors in the
    "success" field.

    There is a lot of capital out there looking for good investments.
    You could lose control if you aren't careful, but the money
    is out there. I doubt it's easy to find through IM. Better
    through country clubs and general offline networking.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      Read Felix Dennis's book "How To Get Rich"
      That's an awesome book about how to get rich, and about how much is enough. After I read it I changed my long-term goals. Based on Felix Dennis's example, I aspire to be owner and chairman of businesses that run great without me.

      I think that How to Get Rich gives the endpoint and mindset, while Gerber's E Myth books give the roadmap for how to build those systems until other people can run them. But Deckman's friend already has all that planned out, he just needs the money.

      I doubt it's easy to find through IM. Better through country clubs and general offline networking.
      We have the same take about that. I wonder if newer generations, growing up online, will start to bypass the "old boy network" when they get rich - moving to private online networks. Or will the club and the course always be where a certain amount of serious business gets done?
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    I'm presently doing some consulting for a guy who owns a
    villa in the Grenadines. He grew up in the Caribbean and
    I think he invested there partially out of nostalgia.

    I would focus on finding investors who are looking for a good
    opportunity and also have an interest in the Caribbean.
    Yachters might be a good group to look at, and also people
    who dive and so forth.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      As others have mentioned, this kind of deal doesn't start with an Adwords ad or a squeeze page from an article resource box.

      As Chris and Loren mentioned, old-fashioned networking is likely the name of the game here.

      The good news is that the net can make playing "six degrees of separation" much quicker, and give you access to people you could never reach by calling the receptionist.

      Piggy-backing on Loren's suggestion, you might want to try creating a relationship with the people who build the yachts. They know people with serious money who just might be interested in a place to dock the new toy where they are part of the inner circle.

      LinkedIn might be a good place to start...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Riddle
    Deckman,

    There are far more investors looking for good investments than there are investments to be found.

    The key is the prospectus, and the convertibility of the investment in the property.

    The Bahamas is no longer a hot market for the tour and travel biz, and that effects the quality and quantity of serious investors.

    There have also been some interesting tax changes that make investing off shore a mine field. (for US investors)

    The fundamentals remain the same, money is looking for the deals, and money will find the good deals.

    Depending on how you structure the deal, and the ranges of the buy ins, will determine who your target is going to be.

    Start doing homework on pre-construction investments, and you will notice that its a fairly small group of people that are doing the same deals over and over.

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  • Profile picture of the author deckman
    I am not looking to get schooled here on What the Market is and isnt. All of the research and Due Diligence has been done. I am just wondering what a big player, if he were to be searching online, what he would be searching so that I could get in to this arena and start putting the seeds out.

    Mr. Enthusiastic, Thank you for reminding me "In the U.S. you need to be very careful about promoting investment opportunities, so that you don't wind up on the wrong side of the security laws. I have made this mistake twice "looking for investors" when all the paperwork specifically says "Joint Venture Participation" so I do need to slow down and get it right.

    John McCabe You are right on the money "The good news is that the net can make playing "six degrees of separation" much quicker, and give you access to people you could never reach by calling the receptionist." and this is what I am playing off of.

    My friend purchased this primary piece of land, for phase one,back in 1999. Since then there has been about 10 arduous years of master planning . Several of the 400 acres are scattered throughout the Bahamas and will support other phases of the master plan.. The Island that phase one of the resort will be going on is basically uninhabited and just supports a handful of Bahamians.

    This resort will not be for your normal traveler but rather a play ground for the big players to purchase homes and other parts of the real estate as well as a place to dock personal yachts up to 150 ft in length.

    Loren Woirhaye, I really appreciate your input here. You have some pretty good insight on the type of partnerships that are being sought. I know this will not attract your typical small $ guys since we are looking for long term partnerships.

    Mark Riddle, when you say "There are far more investors looking for good investments than there are investments to be found." this is the type of possible JV's being sought. This project is not for the tour and travel biz .
    "Depending on how you structure the deal, and the ranges of the buy ins, will determine who your target is going to be."
    Since this project will be done in phases it allows the JV aspect to be broken down into smaller increments and could probably let one in for $500k. I also like your idea of doing homework on pre-construction investments but when you are looking for partnerships it does change the rules.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Riddle
      Deckman,

      Yes looking for JV partners is slightly different than looking for buyers, but the basis is similar.

      When you find the Pre-construction crowd, you will also find which investors are buying through blind pools, and the ones who are investing for the long term.

      The Blind pools will not be a great target for finding people to help you with the development and assisting in the JV. (but the blind pools will always be a good financing source until you are ready to bring in the end investors)

      I assume you are primarily looking for JV's non-residents of the Bahamas.

      There are a few list serves that focus on recreational developers.

      Forbes used to be a big player in the resort market.

      Also pay attention to how the condo hotels are marketed in Mexico, Costa Rica, Philippines and the new money flowing into Brazil.

      Many of these developers are "paper buyers" who hire management teams to do the developments.

      Mark Riddle

      Originally Posted by deckman View Post

      Mark Riddle, when you say "There are far more investors looking for good investments than there are investments to be found." this is the type of possible JV's being sought. This project is not for the tour and travel biz .
      "Depending on how you structure the deal, and the ranges of the buy ins, will determine who your target is going to be."
      Since this project will be done in phases it allows the JV aspect to be broken down into smaller increments and could probably let one in for $500k. I also like your idea of doing homework on pre-construction investments but when you are looking for partnerships it does change the rules.
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      • Profile picture of the author deckman
        Originally Posted by Mark Riddle View Post

        Deckman,

        Yes looking for JV partners is slightly different than looking for buyers, but the basis is similar.

        When you find the Pre-construction crowd, you will also find which investors are buying through blind pools, and the ones who are investing for the long term.

        The Blind pools will not be a great target for finding people to help you with the development and assisting in the JV. (but the blind pools will always be a good financing source until you are ready to bring in the end investors)

        I assume you are primarily looking for JV's non-residents of the Bahamas.

        There are a few list serves that focus on recreational developers.

        Forbes used to be a big player in the resort market.

        Also pay attention to how the condo hotels are marketed in Mexico, Costa Rica, Philippines and the new money flowing into Brazil.

        Many of these developers are "paper buyers" who hire management teams to do the developments.

        Mark Riddle
        Yes he is looking for non-residents and I like your idea of paying attention to how the condo hotels are marketed in Mexico, Costa Rica, Philippines and the new money flowing into Brazil.
        This gives me some great ideas.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAse
    I believe you have to go offline for something significant like that.

    Why not approach financial planners about offering it to their clients? You sell the financial planning or investment group and they put together a place for your presentation. Your city should also have a local real estate investing club that would be interested.
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  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    I am not going to go into the intricacies of this investment project, because as the guy said he has already done his due diligence.

    If you want to get the word out about a deal like this, then you need to focus on social networking, as well as article marketing. Write a few articles about your topic and submit these articles to the top article directories. These articles can often times get listed high in Google, which will give this investment opportunity more exposure.

    Consider writing a press release online. This is a very powerful method that can get a lot of interested people to your opportunity fast.

    If I had to give you one piece of advice, I would say join Facebook and Twitter, and begin to hang around the places where big time investors hangout. This would be a great way to build a solid network not just for this investment opportunity, but also for projects in the future.
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    • Profile picture of the author deckman
      Originally Posted by Mark Riddle View Post

      Deckman,

      Yes looking for JV partners is slightly different than looking for buyers, but the basis is similar.

      When you find the Pre-construction crowd, you will also find which investors are buying through blind pools, and the ones who are investing for the long term.

      The Blind pools will not be a great target for finding people to help you with the development and assisting in the JV. (but the blind pools will always be a good financing source until you are ready to bring in the end investors)

      I assume you are primarily looking for JV's non-residents of the Bahamas.

      There are a few list serves that focus on recreational developers.

      Forbes used to be a big player in the resort market.

      Also pay attention to how the condo hotels are marketed in Mexico, Costa Rica, Philippines and the new money flowing into Brazil.

      Many of these developers are "paper buyers" who hire management teams to do the developments.

      Mark Riddle
      Originally Posted by mlord10 View Post

      I am not going to go into the intricacies of this investment project, because as the guy said he has already done his due diligence.

      If you want to get the word out about a deal like this, then you need to focus on social networking, as well as article marketing. Write a few articles about your topic and submit these articles to the top article directories. These articles can often times get listed high in Google, which will give this investment opportunity more exposure.

      Consider writing a press release online. This is a very powerful method that can get a lot of interested people to your opportunity fast.

      If I had to give you one piece of advice, I would say join Facebook and Twitter, and begin to hang around the places where big time investors hangout. This would be a great way to build a solid network not just for this investment opportunity, but also for projects in the future.
      I like these ideas too. This gives me a lot of new angles. I spoke with him tonight and he actually told me that the JV's would not be asked to put in their own money but to secure a loan that would have progressionary take outs. Once again there is a lot more details that I wont go in to here but this may even change my approach since they would not have to have actuall cash but the ability to secure the loan.
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