The Clickbank Gravity Explosion Technique

alfeathea

13 years ago

Actually, not a a bad idea Espcially if you're already a CB affiliate. Might look into that.

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nazee 13 years ago

oh great i m a new warrior member and dont know even about clikbank through your discussion i learnt new things.
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The Mysterious Marketer

13 years ago

That's a good idea.

Thanks for sharing!

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ankur sharma

13 years ago

awesome idea. This is really cool.

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Mrmuscle90

13 years ago

Suppose its a different approach than normal lol

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Steven Wagenheim 13 years ago

That's one way of doing it, but in my opinion, you're leaving a ton of money
on the table with that method.

There is a better way but I won't get into it here.
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Gavin Stephenson

13 years ago

Im sure there a script for this technique where you can use your own clickbank accounts but the setup is a long process.

Your method is much easier plus once you get higher rankings on CB other affiliates will promote it any how

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Dan Bainbridge

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

* Once your gravity reached some crazy number you put your site up for sale and sell it for a lot of $$$. Advertise it as "super high gravity best selling CB product" etc...etc...

Or don't sell it, add some higher value products, start a real business and grow it

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josephl 13 years ago

Great idea. You can also do a couple of other things maybe like add some optin form to gather even more email addresses and then promote a back end product that you already prepared. That's my small idea! ANy thoughts?
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O0o0O

13 years ago

That's an interesting idea. The trick is to find a buyer before the gravity jumps back down again.

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CraigRC

13 years ago

There are various ways to "game" CB's gravity results.

One of the better ways is to simply use your own affiliate accounts to drive traffic to your own product for sales, as this serves multiple purposes at once:

1. You're testing conversion to your sales page with real traffic.

2. You're driving revenue, beceause these are actual full-ticket sales at your normal price.

3. You're raising gravity through each "affiliate" simply being a different account you've set up previously (which is allowed).

hpgoodboy had a great synopsis of this tactic recently, it's very clear:

1. List product on Clickbank as a vendor

2. Create 5 to 7 (the more the better) affiliate accounts on CB for free

3. For each affiliate account start a campaign to promote your product:

Account1: Google PPC search
Account2: Google PPC content
Account3: Google PPC county A
Account4: Google PPC county B
Account5: Facebook PPC
Account6: Traffic Vance PPV
Account7: Article marketing
Account8: etc
Account9: etc

This will give you:

1. Enough data to tweak you conversion and tell affiliates what works from your own experience.

2. Your program will show up on the radar...The gravity will increase and you will have the big guys jumping on board doing $1,000 to $10,000 test campaigns.

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JustinBrooke

13 years ago

Dang, I'd sure hate to be the newbie affiliate
looking to choose a product to promote.

Finds your "gamed" gravity score, gets excited,
and wonders why he ain't making money.

Poor guy, he didn't know it was a trick...

Even worse, I'd hate to be the sucker you conned
into buying a site that was inflated.

Seriously, is this what the warriorforum has come too? A place where everyone congratulates someone for coming up with an idea to con people?

Whatever happened to just doing good marketing?

Creating a good product?

Doing good things for people?

That "old fashioned" stuff still works, you can make money being a good guy

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CraigRC

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JustinBrooke

Dang, I'd sure hate to be the newbie affiliate
looking to choose a product to promote.

Finds your "gamed" gravity score, gets excited,
and wonders why he ain't making money.

Poor guy, he didn't know it was a trick...

Even worse, I'd hate to be the sucker you conned
into buying a site that was inflated.

Seriously, is this what the warriorforum has come too? A place where everyone congratulates someone for coming up with an idea to con people?

Whatever happened to just doing good marketing?

Creating a good product?

Doing good things for people?

That "old fashioned" stuff still works, you can make money being a good guy

You're right of course, but these lessons serve more as warnings to new affiliates that "gravity" doesn't mean ANYTHING when searching for a product to promote.

These are public-awareness messages about the dangers of the wrong search criteria when picking a product!

The best way to find a great product to promote is simply to use your head and trust your own judgement:

1. Is their an opt-in on the main sales page?

2. Does the sales page copy seem weak, if I were a potential buyer would I be motivated to purchase?

3. Is the pricing correct for the market?

4. Is there and exit-popup that offers some sort of alternate pricing system for the product that I don't care for?

5. Are there several social proof indicators on the sales page, meaning believeable testimonials with actual photographs of customers, etc?

All of these criteria are FAR better than the typical newb affiliate rushing to CB, sorting by highest gravity, and trying to sell an over-saturated (or fraudulent) product.

I wouldn't ever sell a product with a gravity above 50 for the reasons mentioned...nor should anyone else.

My best conversions typically are from products that no one has ever heard of, but whose sales letters are dynamite.

Plus, the owners of those products are so happy to have a high volume affiliate that they'll bend over backward to give you anything you want once you drive numbers their direction.

Win-win.

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Steven Wagenheim

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JustinBrooke

Dang, I'd sure hate to be the newbie affiliate
looking to choose a product to promote.

Finds your "gamed" gravity score, gets excited,
and wonders why he ain't making money.

Poor guy, he didn't know it was a trick...

Even worse, I'd hate to be the sucker you conned
into buying a site that was inflated.

Seriously, is this what the warriorforum has come too? A place where everyone congratulates someone for coming up with an idea to con people?

Whatever happened to just doing good marketing?

Creating a good product?

Doing good things for people?

That "old fashioned" stuff still works, you can make money being a good guy

While I mentioned that there is a better way, let me go on record as
saying that I do NOT use it. In fact, I am sickened by these methods.

However, if you are going to game the system, at least do it in a way where
you make the most money.

It might help you sleep better at night

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timpears

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

While I mentioned that there is a better way, let me go on record as
saying that I do NOT use it. In fact, I am sickened by these methods.

However, if you are going to game the system, at least do it in a way where
you make the most money.

It might help you sleep better at night

While you may be one of the rare honest internet marketers, most are apt to game the system to drive their sites and stats as high as they can. The sales letters are mostly hype and inflated claims.

I have bought more than my fair share of IM products, and few of them live up to the claims that are made on the sales page. Once in a while I get a gem, but most of them leave you wondering what they left out as it isn't as easy as they claim.

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CraigRC

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ncmedia

George, good stuff mate.

Only downside: Payout differential. Your payout to your aff's drops like a rock (I just went from a $24-$71 payout ((due to upsells)) to $8 up front due to this sale according to my charting today. It's now a false positive as the sale is over and it's going to take some time to reach my normal payout in the stats. Affiliates that don't understand this or know there was a sale get thrown off.

Which is why simply using PPC to multiple affiliate accounts you create and own is a better idea, as there's no impact to the payout.

All you have to do is break even on your ad campaigns, and frankly if you can't break even from PPC traffic to a site then you're in trouble already...

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PMinc

13 years ago

Too bad this is really only effective for the IM niche.

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hyderkhan

13 years ago

Is Clickbank a good venue for selling PLR articles?

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

* create a SIMPLE product which targets internet marketers. For example, a collection of PLR content, articles...ebook or whatever.
The product must have some value for marketers although it doesnt need to be top notch. Keep it simple.

* price it very low so that you get MANY sales. A price like $5.95 for a collection of 100s of PLR articles, something like that. Make it so its a no-brainer that people buy it, price shouldn't be an issue.

* Put product on clickbank

* Send out to your targeted IM list (which are all marketers and people interested in such products)...promote on webmaster forums.

* In addition to the low price make it even more attractive by leaking the "secret" that every marketer can actually get the item even cheaper by buying through their own affiliate link. (This is allowed, by the way.)

There is a high chance that many people in your list are on clickbank since they are all marketers anyway..so encourage them to use their afflink.

The result is a "gravity explosion" for your product on clickbank since so many IMers will get this using their own affiliate link.

* Once your gravity reached some crazy number you put your site up for sale and sell it for a lot of $$$. Advertise it as "super high gravity best selling CB product" etc...etc...

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Big Al

13 years ago

Man.... don't they do that with Penny Stocks too?

Create a buzz around some stock... watch the price soar... sell it (sometimes using boiler room tactics) and then walk away while the stock price plummets.

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Gail Sober

13 years ago

How I would do it.

Search google and find affiliates promoting my competition. Get their cb id's and place them in a txt file and use a script to rotate through those after checking first to make sure any incoming clicks did not already carry a cb id.

Then promote the heck out of the site yourself.

All you are doing is splitting your own sales while running up gravity and while NOT stealing sales from other referring affiliates.

AND these other affiliates will notice they are making sales for your product, see it's in their niche and may want to promote as well.

win/win

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PMinc

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ncmedia

^ This applies to any niche mate, nothing to really do with IM (only part perhaps is 'go buy with your own link' but there's ways around that). Simply tweak the formula a bit and or your perception of it. I don't touch the mmo niche and have personally done all variations above so far hence I can speak about them with a bit of authority/data/results. That last point re dropping if you can't maintain your grav naturally is still most important long term no matter how you tweak the formula, you can only trick it out so much before the 'natural' product lifecycle shows in full color.

Thanks! I think there's a method just came to mind.

Next time I stop by T.O. I covering your beer tab.

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timpears

13 years ago

Can you sell a PLR product on Clickbank? That would surprise me if they allowed that.

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LiemNguyen

13 years ago

Have anybody tried this on CB?

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