Will YOU take The WSO Buyer's Pledge?

Michael, I think this should be made a sticky at the WSO forum. I'm serious.
This is some excellent common sense that everybody should follow.

Thank you for posting it.

<Quickly looks the other way...>

Ken, I know you're upset about your realization that Marines are just Navy boys with the brains sucked out, but get over it, will ya?

Now there you go. Today, one little "yes," tomorrow, your Paypal password.

OK, I get the truth as well as the humor in this. And yes, I get that this is the way it is. Not just in IM, but regarding ANY sales pitch or promotion.

BUT. There's a part of me that still wants the world to be bright and shiny... and honest. Sigh. I know it's a pipe dream, but why do I have to "...[take] ALL of the risk in this transaction, even IF the sales letter says otherwise.? Or "...understand that some sellers will honor their guarantees, while others won't."

As I said in a post I just made about plagiarism on Yahoo Answers, there are principles here that we all should have learned in kindergarten. Stealing, lying, etc., etc. Sometimes I just don't like this world where I can't take anything at face value.

I'm a realist. I don't expect anything to change, nor do I have any hope that the sales world at large will become completely honest and straightforward, nor do I hold the Warrior Forum responsible for any of this.

Just venting. Just saying. Sigh. Dreaming of bright shiny butterflies and a place where we all get along... Carry on.

Nice story here on Due Diligence.

Anyone else got some streamline tips for Due Diligence as it relates to WSO's?

Like it said, post count and stuff don't necessarily mean trust.

Another thing that gets me are useless comments on wso's like, " just downloaded and purchased, hope its a great read, good luck on your wso...", like, they do not even know yet if its any good, rehash crap or an outright scam, cause they have NOT READ it yet.

Usually, you can pretty much give up on objective reviews unless you can pick out a few warriors, who, with consistency, will honestly say if something is good, bad, indifferent, nothing new or may have a nugget or two worth the price either for a newb, intermediate or advanced marketer.

There are several no-nonsense warriors I look at, and they are usually right on the money.

Most times, its not necessarily a review but VERY IN-DEPTH, quality and experienced questions, no-nonsense fluff questions, straight to the point, which gives a good view inside by the answers. VERY SMART questions.

Problem is most of these guys that are so objective , no-nonsense usually don't have time or post a review, not worth their time.

And those that solicit review copies with qualifiers like,"...will take a review copy if available, promise to give thorough(***-kissin) review..," are just a total waste of time and space, outright useless.

The 13th Warrior

Good solid points.

That last one, I think, IS kind of easy if person having the problem will clarify it with some details.

Because I've seem some who wanted a refund and did not recommend , but since they CLEARLY explained why, one could make an intelligent choice......also, the clarification of why they did not recommend really sometimes do NOT hurt the WSO, and would still buy it.

Like someone wants a refund because it was nothing new but they clarified its good for newbies starting out who have yet to make money.

Detailed clarification of why one would not recommend personally, but objectively say it is nothing new or nothing they have not seen before in any of the other wso's but is explained better than most or worse than most for whatever level, newb, intermediary or advanced would not be necessarily a negative and nasty, unless the wso is outright crap and a scam.

Then the potential buyer can have more of a measurement to see if its a fit for what they need, although it was not a fit for the purchaser who requested a refund.

The 13th Warrior

Very nice, wow.

Dead center Headshots 1-7 with hollow point bullets.

AND YOU HAD MORE.....???

The 13th Warrior

You took the words out of my mouth

Thats just wrong.

I have bought some stuff that I would not or could not use, but it was not the fault of the seller, just me not reading into enough...it was not necessarily a bad product.

If these serial refunders had any ethics at all, they should keep it, put it on dvd or print it out and give to someone who they think would need it and could use it, and WOULD use it.

The Salvation Army or GoodWill model, don't throw it away in the garbage or get a refund, give it to someone who will use it.

If its crap and scam or insincerely conceived, very low quality information, damaging information or purposefully misleading , yeah , get that refund.

How many stories have you heard of people live's being changed because at the right time in their life , when they needed it most, they ran across some money making book at a swapmeet or used book store?

Why don't these serial refunders simply save it for someone , like teen-agers and such, to get them going in the entrepreneurial direction, change that kids families life and his life, specially if the wso is not that bad but was unusable for the purchaser.

More of an education than that kid is going to get in any school or college he is or will be attending in the future.

You telling me in this economy and century, (which is turning into the "right" time in folks life), for people to look for new directions and views and ween away from the "go-to-college-get-an-education-get-a-good-job-and-retire-with-a-pension", old, expiring model would not be of benefit to someone?

That would be an addition to doing one's part to create business builders and creators, not job seeking pack mules.

You would be doing more than any teacher has done to those kids and out-of-work-job-seeking-schmo, because from what I seen, schools and colleges don't tell someone how to start from nothing an create.....they teach to go find someone else who already created and beg for job, even if you got multiple degrees and you are smarter than business owner, but business owner was a high school drop-out and became a self-employed entrepreneur.

Don't refund on a whim, give to the sincere, the seekers, the mother with kids who just lost her job, the ready to to take action and needy.

Just a thought.

The 13th Warrior

is there a waiting period before it is decided what was offered and what was delivered was crap ?

anyway a touchy subject to me that i will not go into, but i will say there are to many rules or crap sayings that allow people to hide behind and as a result peddle crap and get away with it.

To a point it is comments like above ( and not personal ) that put people put of from calling stuff rubbish or at least voicing an opinion.

The best I do now and i guess many do is you do your homework as best you can, and if you land a dud you simply bin it move along hold your tongue, write the money off as a business expense and never buy from that person again.

it is with the thinking as above this practice is born and as such the vendor just catches the next fly in his trap.

I think there needs to be a line between the habitual refunder and one that may do it once in a blue moon, however in this case the blue moon is penalized regardless by the kangaroo courts on the forum / net.

Where did I say what you suggest?

Please note the highlighted words from my post.

I am ONLY referring to those who purchase with EVERY intent of asking for a refund immediately.

If you're not happy with a WSO, ask for a refund as soon as you realize you're not happy.

~Michael

Of the millions, possibly tens of millions, of "click through" licenses clicked though each day, how many get read? One? Two?

Post any agreement and people will click agree just to get the item and carry on like they always do.

The problem with threads like this is that the posters tend to possess some degree of intelligence but make the unfortunate assumption that other people do as well. Projecting our thoughts and beliefs on to others is never safe.

My post may be cynical, but Michael's is not. Idealistic perhaps, fanciful more likely.

I think the issue here is "information" vs. "action". There's a reason similar material circles the IM realm... it works.