Do you think this is a good idea?

[Mark Blaze]

Hey Warriors,

Im great at thinking of new idea and helping other's with ideas and methods on how to make more with their site's and their planned projects.

The problem i always seem to have is using the ideas i generate for myself or other people randomly during the day myself.

Why? Because i prefer to focus on exactly what im doing at the time but i know many others struggle to think of the ideas in the first place.

So i was thinking maybe i could do little short reports on the ideas i think of and sell them in the wso section cheaply... but my problem is that i have never seen this done as of yet (unless people are just lying).

All i see is income proof and this made me x amount in x days etc and people who have apparantly already tried out the methods.

Instead these would just be ideas and methods that are almost guaranteed to make you money if you impliment them but i have not tried them out myself and maybe not even seen anyone else try them out either!

They would include the full method and how to's etc so it would be literally a step by step action plan and leave room for changes to make each person have a unique angle!

What do you think? any good or should i just go ahead and try it and see what happens? or its a stupid idea and it will never sell?

Mark Blaze

[YourProfessional]

I think it's a great idea -

go for it

As long as you can eloquently explain yourself so it's simply understood and easy-to-follow, I doubt there would be a problem.

I guess it's just about proving yourself to the forum (and others) as a whole.

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by Mylinkking

well it depends on people`s mentality.!
i think u should go for it and try it out! may b your time will be consumed.,but its after effects could be pleasant for you as well. so don`t loose confidence! Go ahead and just do it! Believe in yourself dudE!

Yeah i was contemplating just going and doing it!

But normally when people ask for other's suggestions then it usually gets a wide range of responses and opinions.

This topic is a prime example of just one of my many ideas.

Mark Blaze

[LMC]

Mark,

A product like the one you are discussing is going to need presentation.

It also can't be a five page report with an idea in it.

You need to discuss:

- The Concept
- The Resources
- How to Setup
- How to Develop
- How to Launch
- How to Support
- Last Chapter discutsses rinsing and repeating or trying out another idea, click on link to short report II.

I'm willing to pay $12-$27 for an idea that is going to make me money.

Your salesletter should be straight forward. Don't give me a bunch of bull about how great your idea is and how much money it is going to make me, simply tell me the idea. Keep the details inside. This will separate the serious buyers from those looking for the next best thing.

Your serious buyers will hold a customer value. Your goal should be to release a new short report once a month or even once a week. At $12 a report, each customer is $144 a year if you grab that 'serious buyer'.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If I were you I would develop more or less a high value 'idea' magazine. In fact, contact me if your interested in something like this.

[tryinhere]

An idea's person can name his own price, these guys attract the biggest of bucks when in song.

you could even extend your ideas section to on site visits, your site - my ideas type thing where you would a sell ideas as a wso offers, the customers who buy that would be in tune with where your at but that market would not be overly large, then yes here is my site this is what i am doing, then for a fee you offer a personal private report based on your magic.

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by YourProfessional

I think it's a great idea -

go for it

As long as you can eloquently explain yourself so it's simply understood and easy-to-follow, I doubt there would be a problem.

I guess it's just about proving yourself to the forum (and others) as a whole.

Yeah it will be really easy to follow and will include every single detail!

Too many times ive brought method reports and they miss out big chunks and leave me to go and research it myself.

Mark Blaze

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by LMC

Mark,

A product like the one you are discussing is going to need presentation.

It also can't be a five page report with an idea in it.

You need to discuss:

- The Concept
- The Resources
- How to Setup
- How to Develop
- How to Launch
- How to Support
- Last Chapter discutsses rinsing and repeating or trying out another idea, click on link to short report II.

I'm willing to pay $12-$27 for an idea that is going to make me money.

Your salesletter should be straight forward. Don't give me a bunch of bull about how great your idea is and how much money it is going to make me, simply tell me the idea. Keep the details inside. This will separate the serious buyers from those looking for the next best thing.

Your serious buyers will hold a customer value. Your goal should be to release a new short report once a month or even once a week. At $12 a report, each customer is $144 a year if you grab that 'serious buyer'.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If I were you I would develop more or less a high value 'idea' magazine. In fact, contact me if your interested in something like this.

Fantastic list you have there!

I was thinking of doing one a month or so but i don't want the people i sell to to get stuck on working on each new idea/method every single month... i want them to move on and use the idea/s i present to them succesfully and keep using them and not jump from one thing to the next looking for the biggest thing!

Good point on the sales pages... i was worried that if i gave a general sentence on the idea it's self then it might make people not buy and instead go out and try and figure it out! But that would be almost impossible unless it's something ive seen done and i do some more research into it and give a step by step plan.

Do you think that just giving an idea on what the idea will do for them would be enough? as for example the first report i was planning on doing would be how to get JV partners for list swaps and product launches and grow your list too or even just get them as an affiliate without having to manually contact them at all, all on autopilot after the setup and perfect for IM Marketer's as they do the required thing's everyday or almost everyday too.

Plus what about putting a restriuction on the number of copies sold? as it's only an idea i would imagine the amount of people who actually take action on it would be alot lower than something someone has proven to be a success already and shows all those flashy stats etc etc (lol)!

Will PM you for some more info on this 'idea' magazine your mentioned but not sure if it's very similar to the method i have thought of to add more value to the idea's and also to the product and keep people buying the new products too.

Mark Blaze

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by tryinhere

An idea's person can name his own price, these guys attract the biggest of bucks when in song.

you could even extend your ideas section to on site visits, your site - my ideas type thing where you would a sell ideas as a wso offers, the customers who buy that would be in tune with where your at but that market would not be overly large, then yes here is my site this is what i am doing, then for a fee you offer a personal private report based on your magic.

If i understand correctly then you mean to setup a site and use the wso section to get the visitors and customers and give away the outline of the idea and then offer a paid report for people who don't want to go out and find all the needed info to impliment the information correct?

Mark Blaze

[raynorbeins]

I agree with LMC.

It's always great to come up with ideas or even help others with their ideas on how to make money.

It's one thing to sell an idea and it's another thing to implement an idea. There are quite a number of things to take into consideration.

I feel, like what you said Mark Blaze, that in most reports, a big chunk is always missing. The worst part is that the big chunks are usually the main concept of the money making business.

Just wondering, if you're great at coming up with ideas, why don't you implement them yourself?

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by raynorbeins

I agree with LMC.

It's always great to come up with ideas or even help others with their ideas on how to make money.

It's one thing to sell an idea and it's another thing to implement an idea. There are quite a number of things to take into consideration.

I feel, like what you said Mark Blaze, that in most reports, a big chunk is always missing. The worst part is that the big chunks are usually the main concept of the money making business.

Just wondering, if you're great at coming up with ideas, why don't you implement them yourself?

Thanks for the reply,

The general reason i don't impliment the ideas is either because i don't personally have a need for them at that time or it doesn't fit into my particular business model.

Or it is because im the sort of person who easily looses focus, i actually every so often go and delete half complete projects that i started on new thing's that arn't earning me money and im no longer interested in as it's completely different to what i like doing and has always made me money.

I now rarely buy new products unless it's on something i want my VA to do for me and they can do it for me instead so i can concentrate on what i have to do.

Mark Blaze

[tryinhere]

Originally Posted by Mark Blaze

If i understand correctly then you mean to setup a site and use the wso section to get the visitors and customers and give away the outline of the idea and then offer a paid report for people who don't want to go out and find all the needed info to impliment the information correct?

Mark Blaze

Sorry i think i have confused things, you say your an ideas person, and you going to do some wso offers, that part is all great, but also many people get bogged down , run stale on ideas or where to even move so you could offer a ideas service, where you for a fee visit their site or look at their proposal and offer alternate ideas

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by tryinhere

Sorry i think i have confused things, you say your an ideas person, and you going to do some wso offers, that part is all great, but also many people get bogged down , run stale on ideas or where to even move so you could offer a ideas service, where you for a fee visit their site or look at their proposal and offer alternate ideas

Ahhh i understand now!

I was thinking about doing that but then decided against it really as it means i have to spend alot more of my time in order to earn money than presenting an idea in a report and writing a sales copy and putting it up as a wso!

It would kind of limit my income unless it was highly priced in order to mean that the orders were very limited.

Plus i wouldn't be able to do both at the same time and run my own business that i already have going.

You see now everyone here seem's to have ideas once i lay the intial seed! This is the sort of thing that i want to happen for everyone who would purchase the reports so they give a unique spin on the idea/method too or can just use it as it is.

Mark Blaze

[Kay King]

I don't think it's a good idea - but I think some here do what you are proposing to do.

Selling a "unique spin" on a method that works is one thing. Selling an idea to others for a "spin" that you have not even tested is another.

It's like saying "I think this or this or this might help you make money" and then saying "but I didn't waste my time testing it to see if will help in real life".

I would expect you would be asked "how long have you done this", "what results did you get" and other questions that you would not be able to answer except to say "I think this might be a good thing to do".

To me, this is the type of "idea report" you would compile and offer on your site or send to your mailing list. As a WSO, I think you'd run into some problems selling it here. In fact, this thread may end up deleted just for discussing it.

kay

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by Kay King

I don't think it's a good idea - but I think some here do what you are proposing to do.

Selling a "unique spin" on a method that works is one thing. Selling an idea to others for a "spin" that you have not even tested is another.

It's like saying "I think this or this or this might help you make money" and then saying "but I didn't waste my time testing it to see if will help in real life".

I would expect you would be asked "how long have you done this", "what results did you get" and other questions that you would not be able to answer except to say "I think this might be a good thing to do".

To me, this is the type of "idea report" you would compile and offer on your site or send to your mailing list. As a WSO, I think you'd run into some problems selling it here. In fact, this thread may end up deleted just for discussing it.

kay

Kay you do have a valid point but i have seen some 'similar' report such as the recent one by Imran on how to cash in on the ipad craze which is just ideas and methods on how to cash in on it, plus i believe Brad did a similar one a while ago on the e-cigarette craze too for christmas.

They provided solid methods to make cash from these crazes so you could say it's a spin on that by presenting methods and ideas on using thing's to cash in on stuff.

Like another idea i have is related to facebook advertising where i will give 3 ideas ive seen used and give a full report on what they currently do and how to improve it and get people brains ticking on how to use this in other facebook advertising to make cash!

The particular facebook method/idea i have seen used only a few times and generates both list's and 100,000+ followers in their groups and is viral!

So the reports i release that are more of spin's and idea makers on thing's ive seen used you could say have been proven if i can see they are succesfull or could be with a few changes.

But then the list generation and jv,affiliate partners one is something i haven't seen used before and could indeed make millions or could instead flop and not make hardly anything or take too long or whatever!

However alot of thought goes into each one and if i was to impliment them then i am 99% sure i would make money with it.. but how much and the amount of time and money it would take away from what im already doing would most likely be too great to take even that 1% risk.

Plus there are still faked earning proof's and even less proof of earnings being used now since the FTC rules came in too so it's only by me being honest and coming straight out and saying its just an idea and not a proven tried and tested idea/method that makes it any different to those others.

Mark Blaze

[LMC]

Kay,

I'm going to have to disagree with you. If the research is done on the idea it is easily sell-able and will sell quite well in this market.

I do agree with you on the content of the idea if it's just a spin such as a "good way to get JV partners" that content will receive these questions...

However, depending on how you market, if you have an idea, such as:

A unique way of implementing X and getting Y in profit.

The above would capture my interest, I want to know more about the unique way, and after hearing the main idea, if it still hits me in the gut I would pay $7-$12 to learn how to set it up regardless of it has had any results yet, the point of the content would be to stay ahead of the trend.

and when they ask, why don't you use the idea yourself, you respond with one of the two, being that they would be true 'for me' if I was selling the above service.

One) My business is to make ideas, I would love to use them myself, but I have more fun researching opportunities for you.

Two) I do. I'm building my idea with you. I'll see the results just like you will.

[raynorbeins]

I can relate to you on this issue. Well, for my mind is constantly coming up with ideas and I love the idea of coming up with ideas.. hahha.. but I will also get bored of something very quickly and that's why I will stop something half way and more on to something new.

But I've come to realise that we can't do this all the time. At some point in our lives we must start to focus on one thing and be committed to that.

Like for instance, if you are good at coming up with new ideas, and if you know that your idea is a money making potential, it will constantly keep you excited. Therefore you won't get bored so easily.

I'm just sharing my view point

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by LMC

Kay,

I'm going to have to disagree with you. If the research is done on the idea it is easily sell-able and will sell quite well in this market.

I do agree with you on the content of the idea if it's just a spin such as a "good way to get JV partners" that content will receive these questions...

However, depending on how you market, if you have an idea, such as:

A unique way of implementing X and getting Y in profit.

The above would capture my interest, I want to know more about the unique way, and after hearing the main idea, if it still hits me in the gut I would pay $7-$12 to learn how to set it up regardless of it has had any results yet, the point of the content would be to stay ahead of the trend.

and when they ask, why don't you use the idea yourself, you respond with one of the two, being that they would be true 'for me' if I was selling the above service.

One) My business is to make ideas, I would love to use them myself, but I have more fun researching opportunities for you.

Two) I do. I'm building my idea with you. I'll see the results just like you will.

Steve maybe you should be doing this instead lol

Im liking the way your thinking and the ways you think about thing's!

Mark Blaze

[raynorbeins]

Originally Posted by LMC

Kay,

I'm going to have to disagree with you. If the research is done on the idea it is easily sell-able and will sell quite well in this market.

I do agree with you on the content of the idea if it's just a spin such as a "good way to get JV partners" that content will receive these questions...

However, depending on how you market, if you have an idea, such as:

A unique way of implementing X and getting Y in profit.

The above would capture my interest, I want to know more about the unique way, and after hearing the main idea, if it still hits me in the gut I would pay $7-$12 to learn how to set it up regardless of it has had any results yet, the point of the content would be to stay ahead of the trend.

and when they ask, why don't you use the idea yourself, you respond with one of the two, being that they would be true 'for me' if I was selling the above service.

One) My business is to make ideas, I would love to use them myself, but I have more fun researching opportunities for you.

Two) I do. I'm building my idea with you. I'll see the results just like you will.

I love having to figure out how to go about implementing an idea because it keeps my mind busy.. I guess you could say, it's something like researching??

I enjoying coming up with ideas that could be ahead of our time. Coming up with ideas based on what is going on right now in the world and the resources we have as compared to coming up with ideas that are ahead of our time but still within the resources that we have. I love that idea and I feel that's the most challenging part, don't you think so?

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by raynorbeins

I can relate to you on this issue. Well, for my mind is constantly coming up with ideas and I love the idea of coming up with ideas.. hahha.. but I will also get bored of something very quickly and that's why I will stop something half way and more on to something new.

But I've come to realise that we can't do this all the time. At some point in our lives we must start to focus on one thing and be committed to that.

Like for instance, if you are good at coming up with new ideas, and if you know that your idea is a money making potential, it will constantly keep you excited. Therefore you won't get bored so easily.

I'm just sharing my view point

Exactly i love coming up with new ideas, analyzing how things work and comparing how people are doing things etc etc

Plus it also will be helping people which i love doing too so really does combine two things i love doing!

Plus i like the sound of being an idea's man and inventing new ideas that could infact mean people associate that method with me!

Mark Blaze

[raynorbeins]

Originally Posted by Mark Blaze

Exactly i love coming up with new ideas, analyzing how things work and comparing how people are doing things etc etc

Plus it also will be helping people which i love doing too so really does combine two things i love doing!

Plus i like the sound of being an idea's man and inventing new ideas that could infact mean people associate that method with me!

Mark Blaze

We share the exact same views. For me I always love to help people. The best part about helping others is when they actually succeed, you will feel this amazing feeling that I always believe no amount of money can buy.

Back to the concept of idea development though, instead of writing up a report, since you love to come up with ideas and LMC loves researching for opportunities for people, why not put you idea and his research, which I believe will include the necessary resources, and write up business plans.

So instead of selling reports, you can sell business plans. If the idea is good, companies may want to invest in it.

That's just a thought..provided if you and LMC will work together.

[Kay King]

Like another idea i have is related to facebook advertising where i will give 3 ideas ive seen used and give a full report on what they currently do and how to improve it and get people brains ticking on how to use this in other facebook advertising to make cash!

You can justify it - and I know for a fact that some people offer this type of WSO. Personally, I think they are useless. What you are proposing is the same to me as seeing a question asked here - finding the answer on another forum - and then posting the answer as your own. That's done, too.

This is acting as a middle man - you see what others do (but you have no idea what their results are) and then you pass on this "I saw this and think it's a good idea" to others as "make money doing this".

You can't give a full report on methods others are using when you don't have their stats. What you see as "a great idea" may be a method that yields no results.

That's just my opinion on this type of "WSO offer". I know it's done and fact is many people don't realize what they bought was "just a thought I had" rather than "here's what I did".

kay

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by raynorbeins

We share the exact same views. For me I always love to help people. The best part about helping others is when they actually succeed, you will feel this amazing feeling that I always believe no amount of money can buy.

Back to the concept of idea development though, instead of writing up a report, since you love to come up with ideas and LMC loves researching for opportunities for people, why not put you idea and his research, which I believe will include the necessary resources, and write up business plans.

So instead of selling reports, you can sell business plans. If the idea is good, companies may want to invest in it.

That's just a thought..provided if you and LMC will work together.

LMC already offered a JV partnership but im not the sort of person who does JV's with people unless they are more of an affiliate than an actual partner in crime so to speak.

But he is certainly a great guy who is full of ideas and especially business knowledge!

Mark Blaze

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by Kay King

You can justify it - and I know for a fact that some people offer this type of WSO. Personally, I think they are useless. What you are proposing is the same to me as seeing a question asked here - finding the answer on another forum - and then posting the answer as your own. That's done, too.

This is acting as a middle man - you see what others do (but you have no idea what their results are) and then you pass on this "I saw this and think it's a good idea" to others as "make money doing this".

You can't give a full report on methods others are using when you don't have their stats. What you see as "a great idea" may be a method that yields no results.

That's just my opinion on this type of "WSO offer". I know it's done and fact is many people don't realize what they bought was "just a thought I had" rather than "here's what I did".

kay

Ok Kay maybe the idea's about analyzing what other's are doing to 'possibly' make money is not such a good idea to sell then! Maybe good for freebies to give out though.

Ok will have to write up a business plan for all of this and an exact strategy and hopefully get to work on my first few ideas/methods this weekend to package up and sell!

Wooo the excitement... let's just hope this explodes my income!

Mark Blaze

[TeamDad]

Blaze,
I tend to be an idea guy myself but have never tried to sell the ideas. Instead I put them in a box for another day. Yes, I had to get a physical box. Otherwise, the ideas would stray me from moment to moment and at the end of the day...Nothing substantial accomplished.

Do it! Good Luck.
David

[Mark Blaze]

Originally Posted by TeamDad

Blaze,
I tend to be an idea guy myself but have never tried to sell the ideas. Instead I put them in a box for another day. Yes, I had to get a physical box. Otherwise, the ideas would stray me from moment to moment and at the end of the day...Nothing substantial accomplished.

Do it! Good Luck.
David

Does this mean that all of us here are idea people?

That's no good if it's true!

And how i wish i had made a box... i would have years worth of ideas to write up properly.

Mark Blaze