Do you charge for wordpress?

14 years ago

I have charged for them, but only hourly for the setup and theme customization, plus a little bit for the monthly hosting and upkeep (updates and whatnot).

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Leslie B

14 years ago

Yes, I charge for wordpress blog set ups, it's part of my business.
I use free themes, premium themes that I have a developer's license for and unique once I create with Artisteer. Depends on what the customer wants.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Leslie B

Yes, I charge for wordpress blog set ups, it's part of my business.
I use free themes, premium themes that I have a developer's license for and unique once I create with Artisteer. Depends on what the customer wants.

Leslie

I've looked up the Artisteer site and it looks promising, is it very user friendly?
Are there any similar programs around?
Looks like we share our nationality, haven't seen many belgians around here so far.

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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

Originally Posted by upgraded

[..] is it very user friendly?
Are there any similar programs around?

With all due respect, Jonathan, if you need "user friendly" solutions to perform WP related jobs (like theme design)... maybe it's a bit too early to offer WP services.

You need to understand at least the basics of the WP theme system, XHTML and CSS to do a good job at offering custom design.

Just my $0.02 (Canadian)

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

With all due respect, Jonathan, if you need "user friendly" solutions to perform WP related jobs (like theme design)... maybe it's a bit too early to offer WP services.

You need to understand at least the basics of the WP theme system, XHTML and CSS to do a good job at offering custom design.

Just my $0.02 (Canadian)

You make a very good point here.
I do plan on learning this, but I want to know as much as possible before I start something (including ways to make the job simpler and quicker)

Jonathan

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Leslie B

14 years ago

Originally Posted by upgraded

I've looked up the Artisteer site and it looks promising, is it very user friendly?
Are there any similar programs around?
Looks like we share our nationality, haven't seen many belgians around here so far.

Jonathan

No, I don't think belgians are really a big group here

Artisteer is really user-friendly. I finished my first theme 20 minutes after I bought it. You can try it out before you buy it, although the themes will have a watermark when you export them. Download the trialversion to create some themes, and if you like working with it you can buy them so you can export them.

I do have to agree with Istvan, with the questions you are asking I don't think you are ready to set up wordpress blogs for others, just my two cents off course.

Leslie

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colinph970

14 years ago

I charge - if you don't then you are saying that your time has no value at all. Free themes are fine but its all down to the exclusivity you want on a site. My experience is that the content rather than the theme is the thing that separates the sites.

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lowpricedomains

14 years ago

Of course you charge people, a lot don't know how to set up one. I mostly use free templates.

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Thanks for the quick reactions.
Are you willing to post how much you would charge for an average wp site?

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- cma01 14 years ago
  
  Yes I charge for Wordpress set ups. It takes time.
  
  Not only are they paying for my time, but they also know it will be set up correctly and they don't have to spend hours researching the best plugins and configurations.
  
  Obviously I don't charge nearly as much as I do for a site with a custom theme, but if I spent my time setting up other people's sites for free I wouldn't have time to work on my own sites.
  
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dsmpublishing

14 years ago

Hi guys

yes i charge a small fee to set up blogs for people, get all the wordpress plugins that they actually need (as there are plenty that they dont), install a free theme, post it on my twitter account and do a great ping list. Then set up the banners and the adsense for them along with some articles to get the blog going.

Then all the customer needs to do is add their blog posts and build their traffic.

However if they wanted to use their own blog theme or get one done i would sort it all out for them.

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carla, thanks for you know what I'll reply to you once I hit my 15 posts.

sam, do you post to your twitter account or create a new one for your customer?

Also, what are the needed plugins for wp site?

Jonathan
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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

Wrong title

You do not charge for WordPress, per se...

You charge for your services, for your time, expertize etc.

Creating a website is a job that you do for someone else. Whether you use WP or other CMS or coding from scratch - will make a difference only in the price.

Just installing WP with a few plugins and 3-5 free themes should be considered a "minor" job. BTW, "creating a WP site" for me means installing WP and setting up the basics.

Now, if you use a premium/developer theme - you add your expenses to the initial fee + a profit margin that the market (=client) accepts.

Designing a custom theme... can go from several hundreds to several thousands. Depending on your position in the market and the client's budget

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

Wrong title

You do not charge for WordPress, per se...

You charge for your services, for your time, expertize etc.

Creating a website is a job that you do for someone else. Whether you use WP or other CMS or coding from scratch - will make a difference only in the price.

Just installing WP with a few plugins and 3-5 free themes should be considered a "minor" job. BTW, "creating a WP site" for me means installing WP and setting up the basics.

Now, if you use a premium/developer theme - you add your expenses to the initial fee + a profit margin that the market (=client) accepts.

Designing a custom theme... can go from several hundreds to several thousands. Depending on your position in the market and the client's budget

Sorry for the wrong use of words

Thanks for pointing these things out, they seem pretty obvious once you read them

Could you define 'setting up the basics'? Or is it simply setting up the right plugins as stated before?

Jonathan

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paulie888

13 years ago

Originally Posted by upgraded

Sorry for the wrong use of words

Thanks for pointing these things out, they seem pretty obvious once you read them

Could you define 'setting up the basics'? Or is it simply setting up the right plugins as stated before?

Jonathan

It's not just installing the right plugins, they also need to be configured properly according to the individual WP site that you're setting up.

A proper Wordpress site should be optimized in an SEO sense as well, in terms of content, plugins and configuration - it's not just about the look or aesthetics of the website.

Paul

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Crystal_Jobs

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

Wrong title

You do not charge for WordPress, per se...

You charge for your services, for your time, expertize etc.

Creating a website is a job that you do for someone else. Whether you use WP or other CMS or coding from scratch - will make a difference only in the price.

Just installing WP with a few plugins and 3-5 free themes should be considered a "minor" job. BTW, "creating a WP site" for me means installing WP and setting up the basics.

Now, if you use a premium/developer theme - you add your expenses to the initial fee + a profit margin that the market (=client) accepts.

Designing a custom theme... can go from several hundreds to several thousands. Depending on your position in the market and the client's budget

Very right.

What is more important is your time and the worth of every minute you spend. Secondly, how well do you do your job?

As long as the client is satisfied, you should charge what he can pay.

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Deeps2365

14 years ago

You have to charge, at least a small fee ($5-10 max)

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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

Yes, a few plugins, like spam control, seo things...
Also, setting up what I call 'content hierarchy': use of Pages, categories.

(I had a post a while ago about this, just can't find it - maybe I should put it in a free report

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Mark Riddle

14 years ago

Jonathan,

The fee that you are charging should have less to do than what time it takes you and more to do with how your client is benefiting.

Some people only need a basic site design.

Most others need marketing services to get traffic for the sites and their businesses.

Mark Riddle

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Does it show I'm new to this?
Thanks for all your input, I'm really learning here.

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- cma01 14 years ago
  
  Johnathan,
  
  If you are going to charge for setting up WP, to be giving your clients value that it is worth paying you rather than doing a one click Fantastico install, you should either have experience setting up sites for others or using the platform yourself.
  
  Personally, I think having personal experience using a platform gives you a huge advantage when providing those services for others. I've seen web sites by developers that have no experience in online publishing themselves and the sites may have bells and whistles, but functionally they just plain suck.
  
  So, set up a site for yourself and maybe a friend or family member. Use it, try different plugins, track your stats and page views, see what works and what doesnt.
  
  I have an install of WPMU that all of my Wordpress based sites run on. There are a ton of plugins installed, but every site doesn't use every single one.
  
  The basic ones I use on every site are:
  
  AddtoAny
  
  Askimet
  
  All in One SEO pack
  
  Dagon's Sitemap Generator
  
  Executable PHP widget
  
  Feedburner Feedsmith
  
  Google Analytics
  
  Google XML Sitemap
  
  MaxBlogPress Ping Optimizer
  
  Viper's Video Quicktags
  
  WhyDoWork Adsense
  
  WP-ContactForm
  
  WP Menu Manager
  
  WP Onlywire Autoposter
  
  WP Security Scan
  
  Sean Donahoe has a really good WSO called . . . I think it's Supercharged SEO . . . on how to optimize Wordpress.
  
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colinph970

14 years ago

I'll do a basic design and setup for $17 - which is what many people actually want. Others want much more content and flexibility which takes considerably more time to create, hence they cost more!

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Karen Blundell 14 years ago

yes, I charge for WordPress set-ups, hand-coded custom (no Artisteer) theme design, blog management, free theme customization, coaching, etc. I have been doing freelance consulting since 1997 and have almost 5 years experience with WordPress.

Not everyone has the time or the skills to set up WordPress, and the popularity of WordPress is widespread, so that is why WordPress service providers are in demand.
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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

I do some custom work occasionally, but mostly sell pre-made blogs that are ready to go. They all have customized premium themes, articles already posted, ebooks to sell in some cases, plugins already installed, keyword research done, etc.

I frequently have help for installations of the pre-made blogs I sell and he charges $15 to do that. If I did it myself for those customers who need installation, it's normally around 15 minutes work. Not a big job.

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bollytintin

14 years ago

I have helped over a hundred Nigerians get online via the Wordpress platform and I do charge them a few thousands of Naira. It is a good business for me and it is one I enjoy.

If you are looking at starting this business then you need to learn a lot about Wordpress.

Wishing you all the best man

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Once again thanks for all your advice and support.
Would xhtml and css be enough or can I go further than that?
Having taken a few brief looks at the wordpress site I'd think css and html are
sufficient, but I'm not the expert here ofcourse.
Lets go digg a little deeper there.

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Jonathan
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dsmpublishing

14 years ago

Hi Jonathan

I post the new blog to my twitter account and the customers twitter account and if they dont have one i create one for them.

kind regards

sam
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rosetrees 14 years ago

I think you haven't really given enough information in your original question. What do you mean by setting up a Wordpress site?

Do you mean just installing wordpress on a domain/hosting that the client already owns?

Do you mean talking a client through what is needed, buying hosting/domain in their name and then installing wordpress?

Do you mean all the above, plus adding a template, customisation, plug-ins and adding the content?

Will the client supply the content, or will you supply it?

If a simple install of Wordpress is the gateway to a lot more work from the client, then don't charge.

If what you are being asked to do is more than a simple install, then yes, you charge appropriately.

I customise all my own and clients' Wordpress sites using the Atahualpa theme - a sort of "poor man's" Artisteer. Free and totally customisable. And great for those challenged in the coding department, like me.
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DigiSumo

14 years ago

I charge for setting up a WordPress Website like I would a web design. There's a learning curve behind using WordPress like customizing css, graphic design, SEO, themes, plugins, proper installation and configuration. Prices can vary from $350 for basic setup to $1000 for advanced setup, though I would not charge as much as I would for a hand coded/sliced Website built from scratch.

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Mark

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Letterman

14 years ago

I would be interested in the creation of Istvan's WP set-up instruction guide as he always seems to get to the heart of the matter directly. Please put me down for copy number one :-]

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AndyCas

13 years ago

Originally Posted by upgraded

Do/would you charge for creating a wordpress site?
If you do, do you use free templates or buy custom ones?
If you don't, what's your opinion about this?

Jonathan

How much do you charge for each blog.

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lerxtjr 13 years ago

Never underestimate the value of "transportation." For example, I can get to most places by foot, for free. Or I can pay a little and get a used bicycle. Or I can get to the same place in minutes with a jet plane.

I (with the help of my implementation team of course) charge $900 to $4500 for wordpress installs, conversions from traditional sites to wordpress, and the higher end being custom branding and unique design along with support and training. I just hired two more php guys today because my core team is burned out from overwork and I've been told to slow down.

Be smart with how much your time is worth to you. WordPress installs can get very complex and have more scope creep attached to them than any website project type I've known.
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srizer

13 years ago

hi

If you need wp sites on regular basis I will suggest you to go for Artisteer using this you can create custom made WP sites

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Devid Farah 13 years ago

You will surely charge for wordpress but the issue of templates depends on what the individual client wants or the scope of job.

There are some situations where clients will want simple pages that doesn't require any elaborate designs, in such instances, you can opt for any of the suitable free templates.

In a nutshell, setting up a wordpress for anybody or organization is a job that should be paid for except if you are donating your time for charity causes.
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Michelle Green

13 years ago

I charge a minimum of $95 for installation, plugins, seo, and domain.

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GeorgR.

13 years ago

Originally Posted by upgraded

Do/would you charge for creating a wordpress site?
If you do, do you use free templates or buy custom ones?
If you don't, what's your opinion about this?

Jonathan

yes..i am happy to spend hours each day making free sites for other marketers. I also enjoy article writing for $0.50 per 800 words. NOT

/sarcasm

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FogHorn

13 years ago

I used to build them and sell em and I charged $55 to set them up. I only ever used the free templates, they are fine.

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indiatext

13 years ago

Although I have not yet made a wordpress site for anyone but if I would make then I will charge for sure. This is because even after employing wordpewss a lot of stuff is still left to be gone.

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Adie

13 years ago

Originally Posted by upgraded

Do/would you charge for creating a wordpress site?
If you do, do you use free templates or buy custom ones?
If you don't, what's your opinion about this?

Jonathan

I charge wordpress and includes:

domain/hosting
wp installation
theme/plugin installation
5 to 10 x 500-word unique articles
SEO

I mostly use free themes for niche adsense blogs. premium themes have lots of images and design that could distract visitors from clicking ads....

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DeborahDera

13 years ago

Originally Posted by upgraded

Do/would you charge for creating a wordpress site?
If you do, do you use free templates or buy custom ones?
If you don't, what's your opinion about this?

Jonathan

I have not, but I would. You should always charge for your time/efforts.

If I were selling a WP package I would be using a theme I purchased and had the *rights* to use as a developer, unless the client had their own theme designed.

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Alexander K

12 years ago

Originally Posted by upgraded

Do/would you charge for creating a wordpress site?
If you do, do you use free templates or buy custom ones?
If you don't, what's your opinion about this?

Yep, I charge. Provide a service and time, should get something in return.

I use a free one that I customize for the client's needs / requests.

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SteveJohnson

12 years ago

I spend much of my time fixing and revamping WP sites for businesses that people who purport to know what they're doing have sold to an unsuspecting business owner.

Many of them are crap artisteer-built monstrosities.

I don't want to be harsh here, but people who set up WP sites for businesses using out-of-the box themes and plugins from a 'must have' list aren't much different in my mind than the people who spend their weekends calling themselves painters and create work for professionals to clean up after they've left town (yes, I used to own a painting company in an earlier life).

There is so much more to building an effective web site for a business than simply throwing up WP and slapping on a theme and a few plugins.

A web presence is a marketing tool for a business, and a huge part of their public image. If you provide something that is crap, a hodgepodge of thrown-together components, that is so excruciatingly slow that it's painful to visit, that has no discernible visitor flow, or simply looks so amateurish that it makes a person want to barf, what do you think you're doing to the face your client shows the public? To their bottom line?

OTOH, you who are in it for a quick buck may not care about that...

To answer the original post's question, yes, I charge. But not for WP. I charge for what I can make WP DO. Or Expression Engine, or whatever platform fits my client's needs, if any. And it's very rarely less than $5K.

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Caleb S 12 years ago

I charge for services rendered and other criterion.

I say it's safe to charge for design since GNUGPL warrants modification to such licensed themes.
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zakuza

12 years ago

yes..i am happy to spend hours each day making free sites for bussines

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