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Selective Review Copies Given for WSOs, to Warriors with High Post Counts?

by x3xsolxdierx3x
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lol....let me do my best to explain this....

I'm sure most believe that their products are the BEST ever and would love to gain attention of some of the most influential posters here on Warrior Forum. (Not that post count is everything, but, I admit, I tend to look over at post count a little when determining how to weigh someone's posts, contributions, or insights....)

...when releasing a product as a WSO, has anyone ever said something like "Review Copies only Available to those with 1,000+ Posts or Greater"..... ?

...I guess I just relate post count to trust, to some degree....and, I'd think one would prefer reviews from someone who is 'trusted' or viewed highly in a community....

Of course, someone could have 10,000 Posts and still be a horrible human being....lol....I can see both sides of the coin....

Hope I explained that well...
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  • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
    The better way is to contact reviewers before posting the offer. Then you can pick and choose the most appropriate people to get feedback from. Try to ask Warriors that you've interacted with and that are familiar with the business model that is in your product.

    Like for an article marketing product, go for someone who has an expertise in that area. They will either point out weaknesses in your product so you can make it better or they will give you more credibility if they like the product.

    In my first WSO, I offered review copies to members with a certain time here and a certain post count minimum - I got quite a bit of flak over that. You can still do it but be prepared...lol.

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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

      The better way is to contact reviewers before posting the offer. Then you can pick and choose the most appropriate people to get feedback from. Try to ask Warriors that you've interacted with and that are familiar with the business model that is in your product.

      Like for an article marketing product, go for someone who has an expertise in that area. They will either point out weaknesses in your product so you can make it better or they will give you more credibility if they like the product.

      In my first WSO, I offered review copies to members with a certain time here and a certain post count minimum - I got quite a bit of flak over that. You can still do it but be prepared...lol.

      Tina
      This seems like the most logical way to go....I mean, shouldn't we all be seeking credible, established and influential people to review our products? I mean, for all I know, "Joe-smoe", with only 1 post, could be Bill Gates or something like that....lol.....but, there's no way around associating time spent on the forum and post count, with an elevated level of trust and security....

      I guess I just don't quite understand why people would be satisfied with reviews from just 'anyone'....

      You said you got a bit of flak over it, Tina.....you mean your WSO was deleted or something like that? People didn't like the idea that they had to meet that criteria to get something for "free"?.....When someone values their product highly, and believes that it can be very beneficial to customers....and, help foster a great long term relationship, I'm not sure why anyone would just 'settle' with giving freebies out to any person that they haven't pre-selected and pre-defined themselves as being worthwhile to the release and value of the overall product....
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  • Profile picture of the author reapr
    Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

    lol....let me do my best to explain this....

    I'm sure most believe that their products are the BEST ever and would love to gain attention of some of the most influential posters here on Warrior Forum. (Not that post count is everything, but, I admit, I tend to look over at post count a little when determining how to weigh someone's posts, contributions, or insights....)

    ...when releasing a product as a WSO, has anyone ever said something like "Review Copies only Available to those with 1,000+ Posts or Greater"..... ?

    ...I guess I just relate post count to trust, to some degree....and, I'd think one would prefer reviews from someone who is 'trusted' or viewed highly in a community....

    Of course, someone could have 10,000 Posts and still be a horrible human being....lol....I can see both sides of the coin....

    Hope I explained that well...
    The simplest way in my opinion is look at their prior posts. You may find this person constantly asking for review copies and never leaving feed back or leaving a 3000 word review of the product. I have seen a few warriors with high post counts leave a one liner and get flack over it. Just review the potential reviewers prior posting habits!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      You said you got a bit of flak over it, Tina.....you mean your WSO was deleted or something like that?
      No, the flak was from people not qualifying, more than anything. I had a few nasty PMs and even a couple emails from people telling me things like I was being elitist, prejudiced against newbies, yada, yada...

      It was just freaking annoying...lol.

      And yes, I had put the requirements in the thread. I backed off it then due to being bugged by people but I've grown a thicker skin since then.

      I just think that it is more effective to be able to post your testimonials when you post the WSO. And those are more effective if they are 1) people that are recognized around here and 2) people who are considered experts in that particular subject.

      That way it solves the entire issue plus you get a chance to improve your product before releasing it. The best feedback is that which points out any weaknesses as well as saying what is good. Most of us have a blind spot when it comes to our own work and an objective opinion can help us make it even better.

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  • Profile picture of the author Bayo
    It really depends.

    Some people swear by allowing other Warriors to review the product and there's no doubt that it can have a good effect on people who determine whether to buy or not based on who provided a review - So it is a good marketing approach but not mandatory.

    Ideally, product creators should also offering their products for review outside of the Warrior Forum and getting feedback from other channels as well. If you get feedback from those channels and use them in the WF, you run the risk of credibility since people may not know who the people are (but that happens on websites too)

    Choose you reviewers well so you don't suffer 'leakages' though - It happens whether we recognize it or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author yommys01
    I don't mind post count but I will definitely be selective. I won't want to contact a site flipper who does no article marketer when my next WSO is about article marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author visit_faraz
    Hmm, actually I posted an offer for free software yesterday asking for people with 500+ posts
    and that was because of this trust issue and because most of them are knowledgable.

    I have noticed that when there is a wso that gets some great reviews from members with less than 10 posts , then I just get a little suspicious.

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  • Profile picture of the author Louise Green
    I've done this, before I realised that Allen, Paul and the mod team look upon asking for WSO reviews with suspicion.

    Many of the people who want the review copy will never get back to you.. even established Warriors. At first I thought it was the quality of my product and improved it greatly, then I learnt that it's fairly common for people to take your product for free and not even send you a thank you note.

    If nothing more, it lets you know who not do to business with in the future.
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    • Profile picture of the author reapr
      Originally Posted by Louise Evans View Post

      I've done this, before I realised that Allen, Paul and the mod team look upon asking for WSO reviews with suspicion.

      Many of the people who want the review copy will never get back to you.. even established Warriors. At first I thought it was the quality of my product and improved it greatly, then I learnt that it's fairly common for people to take your product for free and not even send you a thank you note.

      If nothing more, it lets you know who not do to business with in the future.
      Well this ol' dog is aware of the ol' saying a dog does not mess in its own house. R

      The point is I think I can see why it may look suspicious because Warriors may not want to have to review other Warriors products in a negative light.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by Louise Evans View Post

      I've done this, before I realised that Allen, Paul and the mod team look upon asking for WSO reviews with suspicion.

      Many of the people who want the review copy will never get back to you.. even established Warriors. At first I thought it was the quality of my product and improved it greatly, then I learnt that it's fairly common for people to take your product for free and not even send you a thank you note.

      If nothing more, it lets you know who not do to business with in the future.
      Wow....this is a serious Shame....

      ....perhaps it may be best to steer clear of review copies period?....
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      • Profile picture of the author Louise Green
        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        Wow....this is a serious Shame....

        ....perhaps it may be best to steer clear of review copies period?....
        I wouldn't stay clear of the idea, but next time I will be asking friends / people I trust here via PM, email or the phone - not for reviews or testimonials but for honest opinions on how to make a better product.. I think if it's a good enough product they will support it and give it the thumbs up without being asked to. It can't hurt to get some constructive criticism from people who want to see you do well
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  • Profile picture of the author dsmpublishing
    Hi guys

    i find that many people now ask for reviews from people with 1000 posts only yet i find that there are many people that give a lot back to this forum that only have 500 posts and some with even as low as 25.

    I find its a matter of trust as you are more likely to trust someone with a high count. Not to mention if you get a review from a highly regarded wf member you are bound to sell a lot more from your wso.

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  • Profile picture of the author AmyBrown
    A "free" review copy isn't really free. You're asking someone to give up at least an hour of their time between the time it takes to acquire the product, read/view/digest the product and write the review. Even if the reviewer learns something from the product chances are good it isn't particularly relevant to what they do and/or won't be put into practice.

    The reviewer shares a bit of their credibility with you and in doing so they share some of the risk by being associated with you if you do something hinky in the future. My opinion of some people has been negatively affected by the products they've been associated with through reviews and affiliate agreements.

    The people I'd most like to see reviews from never/rarely give them, and I understand why.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    I have never set a post count limit for giving out review copies, but I believe my method is effective.

    I ask for "trusted" Warriors to review it. Doing it this way lets me decide who gets a copy, weeds out the less-trusted members with inflated post counts, but still lets in those with lower post counts who are trusted.

    Plus, I have never had anyone call me names. Instead they say stuff like, "I'll be happy to review it if I'm what you consider a 'trusted' Warrior."

    Not saying it's the perfect solution, just that it's one way to take care of some of the issues that come up when offering review copies.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I've only done one WSO so I'm no expert, but I asked five people I had respect for that I'd had prior interactions with, but I made it clear to them I was not looking for a shill. I made certain they knew I wasn't asking them to lie if they thought my offer wasn't a good product at a good price. In other words, I made sure they understood that I was not asking them in any way to compromise their integrity.

    I also included the download link when I contacted them, so they'd have the option to decline without having to acknowledge they even looked it over. In other words, I gave them a graceful exit. Fortunately for me, four of them reviewed it that I offered it to, and each one had many positive things to say.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Good point, Dennis.

    I should mention that I ask for "honest reviews from trusted Warriors". I know for a fact that that phrasing has helped me improve products before release. After all, those I consider trusted Warriors aren't afraid to speak their minds if something's lacking.

    All the best,
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