Getting frustrated with my website

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I am building a mini niche site based on flip ultra camcorders and supposedly running with adsense sometime in the future (it refuses to work right now) however I am having a few problems getting Kompozer to recognise that I wish to publish multiple pages...no matter how I do it and where I tell it to publish to I cannot get my page with my few words on it from my computer to godaddy hosting.

I feel like I am hitting my head against a brick wall and getting close to the end of my tether now, no matter what I try keeps getting rejected, can anyone throw up some hints that maybe I have tried yet?

My website is at camcordermini.com
#frustrated #website
  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    I like using Kompozer for quick html editing, but I prefer to use a separate ftp program (Filezilla in my case) to transfer the files between my computer and the server.
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  • Profile picture of the author ozduc
    When I look at the links on the left side they are all pointing to duplicates of the domain. By that I means the link shows.
    http://camcordermini.com/www.camcordermini.com/whybuy

    You should also try downloading FileZilla for free and using that to upload your pages.

    Just as a side note: You may want to increase the font size of your home page, it is really hard to read.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    But how do I transfer files to pages that are not my index/homepage?

    Regardless of what I do I keep ending up with the same problem as "page not found"

    Maybe someone will see something wrong with my coding which is causing the double address problem so it will be one less thing?

    <div class="graypanel" align="justify"> <span
    class="smalltitle">Links<br />
    <br />
    <a href="www.camcordermini.com/index" rel="me"
    target="_blank">Home</a><br />
    <a href="www.camcordermini.com/whybuy" rel="me">Why
    Buy?</a><br />
    <a href="www.camcordermini.com/techspecs" rel="tag">Tech
    Specs</a><br />
    <a href="www.camcordermini.com/photos" rel="me">Photos</a><br />
    </span><br />
    <span class="smallredtext"></span><br />
    </div>
    </div>
    <div id="footer" class="smallgraytext"> <a
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    You need to either learn how to use HTML and the tools; or you need to outsource this work to someone who can implement your vision.

    Looking at the html source of your page:

    Winkhosting.com is listed as the author of the page, but that link goes to a web hosting site, not a graphic design firm. What's up with that?

    There's a link to a style sheet, but no style sheet exists at that location. What's up with that?

    Despite the link to a style sheet, style attributes are hard-coded into the html. What's up with that?

    There are nested "small" tags (without any style attributes) to format the page title, where an html header tag would be more appropriate for layout, navigation, and seo. What's up with that?

    There are multiple links to "#" rather than to any anchor or URL. What's up with that?

    There's repeated use of rel=me which is supposed to indicate that both sides of a link refer to a particular person. What's up with that?

    I won't go through the rest of it, but the whole thing is a total head-scratcher.

    I also see what you are trying to do with the text of the page, but if you want to get English-speaking readers, you need a total rewrite or a very good editor to help you with the wording.

    My advice is to take a break, then decide if you have the patience to learn step by step, or if it's better to work with someone else who has the patience and skill to use the tools.

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    The whole problem I have with it is that Kompozer feels it is its duty to screw up my website constantly, I have pretty much gone for the most basic of templates which is "red tie" and it constantly deletes all the graphics, squashes up all the text, and moves my link boxes like a messed up game of musical chairs, refuses to do any kind of outside link at all...and I haven't changed a thing with the code except to place my text in and that tiny excerpt was nothing compared to what I am looking at

    I have absolutely no idea what you are saying when you keep asking "whats up with that?" If I knew exactly how I should be doing stuff and what was going wrong I wouldn't be asking here...

    All I want to do is to get a simple website page there with a link to other pages where the links actually work and the pages dont end up garbled...lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Sparhawke

    I hate to say this but your problems could well be due to godaddy hosting, it's very restrictive

    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    The reason I asked "what's up with that?" is because it makes no sense at all to me.

    I've been using html since I discovered the Viola browser in 1993, and started professionally coding with html and asp a few years later. I've read the entire html technical reference spec. When I look at the html source code of your site, pretty much every line has something that confuses me and makes no sense.

    There might be some good reason that I don't understand. Maybe there is some sophisticated shortcut I've never learned. I find out new things about the Web every day. If you can explain the reason and thought process behind those design decisions, that will help me and other people learn something new.

    I've used Kompozer and not had it change things around like you're describing.

    So maybe you have a bad version of Kompozer that randomly messes everything up.

    Or, perhaps Kompozer's not the right tool for you. Maybe you should use a different tool that better fits the way you think. I know a designer who couldn't stand Dreamweaver but loves to use Kompozer. You may find that a different Web editing program is better for you.

    Or, maybe you should learn how to use Kompozer, step by step, starting at the beginning.

    Or, maybe the template you have is a mess and you should start over from scratch with a different template.

    Or, maybe you should use Wordpress with a theme you like. You could then use its visual editor and it will generate the html for you, no html editing or ftp at all required on your part.

    Or, maybe you're just impatient and can't be bothered to focus on one thing and learn it.

    It's impossible for me to tell which situation is the problem.

    What I can say is that I've never had the experience of Kompozer messing things up on me like you describe. Either I'm just plain lucky, or you have an opportunity to learn html and Kompozer, or pick a better tool.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      looking at your source code you need to make sure that you upload the file called style.css into your public_html/images folder
      all your images should be uploaded there as well...

      ah, hold on, it looks like you haven't even created an images folder yet either, so you need to do that first!

      if you need some advanced FTP help, GoDaddy supplies you with a link here:

      FTP Tutorials

      also, if you need more help, please feel free to send me a pm and I'll see what I can do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
      Originally Posted by Mr. Enthusiastic View Post

      The reason I asked "what's up with that?" is because it makes no sense at all to me.

      I've been using html since I discovered the Viola browser in 1993, and started professionally coding with html and asp a few years later. I've read the entire html technical reference spec. When I look at the html source code of your site, pretty much every line has something that confuses me and makes no sense.

      There might be some good reason that I don't understand. Maybe there is some sophisticated shortcut I've never learned. I find out new things about the Web every day. If you can explain the reason and thought process behind those design decisions, that will help me and other people learn something new.

      I've used Kompozer and not had it change things around like you're describing.

      So maybe you have a bad version of Kompozer that randomly messes everything up.

      Or, perhaps Kompozer's not the right tool for you. Maybe you should use a different tool that better fits the way you think. I know a designer who couldn't stand Dreamweaver but loves to use Kompozer. You may find that a different Web editing program is better for you.

      Or, maybe you should learn how to use Kompozer, step by step, starting at the beginning.

      Or, maybe the template you have is a mess and you should start over from scratch with a different template.

      Or, maybe you should use Wordpress with a theme you like. You could then use its visual editor and it will generate the html for you, no html editing or ftp at all required on your part.

      Or, maybe you're just impatient and can't be bothered to focus on one thing and learn it.

      It's impossible for me to tell which situation is the problem.

      What I can say is that I've never had the experience of Kompozer messing things up on me like you describe. Either I'm just plain lucky, or you have an opportunity to learn html and Kompozer, or pick a better tool.
      I was thinking earlier of scrapping the whole idea of HTML completely and just going for wordpress as you suggest..

      I am using this red tie template:

      ttp://winstart.com/template/Free-Templates/25-html/100-red-tie.html

      I am not changing any code at all, yet simply copy/pasting my text articles over the ipsum latin stuff and no matter what I do it simply refuses to just upload what I actually want it to, preferring to edit it at will and shove parts of it to where it feels...

      Why you are confused by everything on my site in the source code I don't have a clue, I am not writing it, simply using the template :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Can anyone recommend a wordpress template which is very simple to use and has absolutely no bells or whistles on that could confuse and simply end up where I have a load of gadgets and widgets that are completely unneeded?

    I originally wanted something like this for my site...

    ww.sailboatinglessons.com/
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  • Profile picture of the author Hooper
    Now you are talking go with Wordpress and google free wordpress themes business or electronics etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    I owe you an apology for the snitty attitude earlier. You were upset and confused, and I responded poorly because I was having a tough time with an unrelated health issue. I'm sorry for being rude.

    Yes, I think Wordpress is a good choice for you. All you have to do is pick a theme you like, and use the editor to put in your text. Although I can hand-code everything, I've discovered that Wordpress is so much faster and more fun that I like it a lot better.

    By the way, I downloaded the Red Tie theme, put it in a directory on my machine, used Kompozer to edit index.html and paste in your camcorder text, and here's what I got: looks perfect, when in the directory with all the original files (including im.gif and the images directory). The forum software doesn't allow .html uploads so I added .txt to make it upload. You'll need to rename the file and remove the .txt, to make it just index.html again.

    Your Kompozer problem might as simple as the need to upload im.gif, and the images directory to your web host. Do you understand how to use ftp?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    I have no problems uploading the index (first home page) however, when I want to upload other pages leading off it that is when I run into problems, I have tried many different variations of the same thing yet no matter what I do I end up with the same thing, ww.camcordermini.com/ww.camcordermini.com as the destination which simply leads me to the internet equivalent of the 7th circle of hell :p

    I will probably get some sleep tonight and start in the morning with the simplest wordpress theme I can find and start building that up, thanks for the hints but at this point after fighting with it for days I am at the end of my tether lol

    I have a strong vision of what I want it to do, a simple block of text with maybe a header at the top and links down the sides going to maybe 3-7 other ppages of articles and picture pages, the reality is somewhat different lol

    I have been reading sitewizard kompozer guide but after it ends with the 2 page of the tutorial it tells me that we may want to start leading pages off from the home, makes a few vieled statements about naming conventions and then ends abruptly and then on page 4 it gives some sparse crumbs of wisdom about how to complete this great quest yet doesn't allow for the fact that I don't know either the naming or ftp conventions for uploading additional pages...

    My brothers and other family are the technical ones, if you told them to move a mountain they would calculate the exact distance they need to be before they poke it with sticks and levers, I am far more elemental...I would simply heave it through the window without a 2nd thought and with as much effort as you would use flicking a pea at your english teacher and as to how I accomplished it, I wouldn't be able to tell you. I guess I am the same with this, I need very direct video instructions and an absolute A to B roadmap before I know what I am doing. Something which I am finding that other sites simply assume you know.....like flatpack makers for Ikea.

    I know exactly what I want it to do, I just don't know where to find absolute instructions for making it do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
      Originally Posted by Sparhawke View Post

      I have a strong vision of what I want it to do, a simple block of text with maybe a header at the top and links down the sides going to maybe 3-7 other ppages of articles and picture pages
      I think Wordpress can make that easy for you, as you said after you get a fresh start.

      I have been reading sitewizard kompozer guide
      I didn't realize it was that bad. I've used it long enough that the instructions are long since lost.

      if you told them to move a mountain they would calculate the exact distance they need to be before they poke it with sticks and levers, I am far more elemental...I would simply heave it through the window without a 2nd thought
      OK, for the safety of all windows in the area we need to get you onto Wordpress and well away from any code!

      Good luck with the fresh start tomorrow.
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