The Dang FTC and Merchant Companies

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Dear all:

As many of us are experiencing, the newly emerging, far more stringent guidelines around sales copy from the FTC and our merchant companies are forcing many of us to communicate things-that-were-already-ethical in a different way.

Specifically, our team is facing one Very Big Problem: the word "free" can no longer be used in "free trial" if the user must input his or her credit card information.

We have some major mailings going out on Monday, and one of our primary revenue generators is a 14-day free trial to a $97/month continuity program. We can longer use the word "free," even though it is free.

Anyone have any thoughts on how to phrase "free trial" without using synonyms (e.g., complimentary) that imply the same meaning? It's also not "risk free," since usually that means someone has to pay you money first.

Your help would be much appreciated!

Thanks,
Sam
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
    Im not expert on this as I am just launching my own membership site shortly.
    I have thought about this issue a little bit.

    What if you said something like:

    For $1 you are going to get product x as well as a 14 days of free access to my membership site which will automatically rebill after the 14 day trial period if you decide to stay on.

    I don't know if that is good enough...

    Does it have nothing to do with properly disclosing the terms, or are you not allowed to use the words free and free trial anymore?
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      OR how about:

      For $1 you will get Access to product x as well as a 14 day test drive of our membership site which rebills at $14.95/m after the trial period?

      On a side note,

      This particular FTC law really ticks me off.

      I had developed a huge sales funnel around this $1 free trial thing.

      Its funny because the free trial rule must have been sneaked in with their review disclaimer thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    "You get complete access for 14 days before your first billing. Look it over. See the value for yourself. Cancel any time in those first two weeks, and it costs you nothing." Then, of course, you explain why you're confident that they'll want to continue with the subscription...

    If you say that, though, make sure they have no problems canceling without being billed first. A relatively simple way to do that is to wait 17 days to do the first billing cycle.


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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      "You get complete access for 14 days before your first billing. Look it over. See the value for yourself. Cancel any time in those first two weeks, and it costs you nothing." Then, of course, you explain why you're confident that they'll want to continue with the subscription...

      If you say that, though, make sure they have no problems canceling without being billed first. A relatively simple way to do that is to wait 17 days to do the first billing cycle.


      Paul
      So as long as you don't specifically write the words 'free' or 'free trial', you are OK, even if it still implies free for the first x amount of days?
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  • Profile picture of the author verticality
    Thanks guys! Paul, I like your verbiage a lot and would humbly request to borrow it, if that's all right with you. Much appreciated...
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    • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
      Honestly I would run it by my merchant provider before using it. My guess is that they will not like it and you really want to find that out before your launch instead of in the middle when they shut your processing down.

      While the focus has been on the word FREE that is just because that is the word everyone is using. What they want everyone to get away from is the idea that there is no cost and then the customers get billed later on. Saying it will cost nothing means the same as saying it is free. Same exact idea different words and my guess visa and mc will see it as such and there is no way I would take a chance on losing my merchant account on such hair splitting myself.

      Best bet charge $1 and offer a refund if you want. Are you seriously going to get a much lower response with $1 then free?

      Originally Posted by verticality View Post

      Thanks guys! Paul, I like your verbiage a lot and would humbly request to borrow it, if that's all right with you. Much appreciated...
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Thanks guys! Paul, I like your verbiage a lot and would humbly request to borrow it, if that's all right with you. Much appreciated...
      Absolutely. Run it past your merchant bank before using it, though. That's not the sort of thing you want to assume I'll get right. There could be things in the mix that I didn't know and couldn't account for.

      If they approve it, send me a bottle of scotch.


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  • Profile picture of the author Kirk Ward
    Many of the television ad folks have gone to ...

    Try it for 30 days for only $14.95.

    Then they handle the details at the phone center, but there seem to be a bunch converting to that promotional text.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronr
      Charging small amounts of money is better than a free trial anyway. If your prospects aren't willing to spend $1, $5, $7 for 30 days access to your program then they either aren't real prospects anyway or you haven't convinced them of the value of your offer.

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Note: I am still not a lawyer. I have never worked for the Federal Trade Commission. The following is the opinion of an informed, but not professionally trained or certified, ex-copywriter. Use this information at your own risk. Do not take this advice with alcohol, if pregnant, or if you are under the age of 21.
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      Daniel,
      So as long as you don't specifically write the words 'free' or 'free trial', you are OK, even if it still implies free for the first x amount of days?
      It's not that simple. Consider the following examples:

      "You get complete access for 14 days before your first billing. Look it over. See the value for yourself. Cancel any time in those first two weeks, and it costs you nothing."

      "You get complete access for 14 days before your first billing. Look it over. See the value for yourself. Cancel any time in those first two weeks, and you won't be billed."


      Semantically, those are identical statements. They are, however, perceptually somewhat different. The second example is much closer to "If you don't cancel in 14 days or less, you're going to be billed."

      Taken in isolation, the Commission would probably prefer that wording, since it will be clearer to the standard of the "typical customer."

      For banks, it's a toss-up. Which one a given bank would prefer, assuming either, will depend on their risk exposure at the moment and what lawyers they have on staff. Banks are, perhaps surprisingly, much more likely to be legalistic and hair-splitting than the Commission. They have more latitude for it, and they're private entities, among other things.

      When looking at an ad for deceptiveness, the Commission doesn't look at anything in isolation. They are charged to consider the aggregate effect of the advertisement on a typical consumer. The "reasonable man" standard, as it was previously called.

      The Commission, for example, knows and takes into account that almost no-one reads every word of any sales letter. They look at the overall meaning that will tend to be conveyed, weighting each element by its impact on the potential for clarity and accuracy of the final impression.

      Note the word: Impression. Not "literality of phrasing." That's where a lot of people, especially in this industry, screw up. They think that some minor point, made once in an obscure part of the copy, is their "Get out of jail free" pass.

      Don't work that way, goys and birls.

      It is much easier to avoid problems with the Commission than with a bank. Banks can be, and often are, arbitrary and self-interested. The Commission is complaint-driven, and hasn't the time or resources to waste on someone who is clearly communicating the truth to their customers in an open fashion.

      The Commission scares people more for a very good reason: They can take all your stuff and toss your butt in jail.

      Try to be too clever, and you're asking to have them do just that.


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  • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
    Matt Bacak made a great comment about this topic not too long ago. I agree with him and I am changing my sites accordingly.

    I've made many mistakes with continuity. So...

    I'm speaking from personal experience after putting
    28,374 people into a $1 offer and 30 day trial.

    (BTW: I stopped all $1 trails over 1 year ago.)

    I hope this helps.

    3 Things to think about:

    Stick Rate
    Bitch rate
    Quality of Buyer

    Here's my comments about it:

    Yes, you will get alot more into your offer. No matter how
    much you try to make the offer clear as you can be. They will
    still forget about the continuity. Because they see $1 and
    will say oh well its just a buck. So, they forget FAST!

    Think about your optin subscribers for a sec.

    Someone subscribes to your list, next day you send
    an email out to your list. A few minutes later....

    -----Email----

    What is this.

    How did you get my email?

    Why are you spamming me?

    (Insert: Name of person that opted in)

    -----END--------

    So your bitch rate will be high, stick rate will be low.

    Now you have more customer support costs.

    Bitch rate = higher Customer support time and money

    Let's not forget of the quality of buyer.

    ----Quality of Buyers

    $1 get's all the tire kickers.

    You might want to think about raising it to 4.95 or higher.

    Now, even at that price (4.95 or higher) people have
    to think about there buying decision more. There for
    you are getting alot better buyer which...

    Increases Stick Rate
    Decreases Bitch Rate
    Increases Quality of buyer

    Last thing to think about before you build out your offer.

    IMPORTANT: If YOU Are Running Your Own Credit Cards

    This is time sensitive: Right now everyone is still up in the
    air of the true rules being released by Visa and Mastercard.

    Guru's are saying there interpretations, Merchant account
    companys are all coming out with their own rules. Realize
    an very important factor - these are all false gods.

    The real god in this situation is VISA/Mastercard.

    So as soon as VISA/Mastercard issues there stance on
    all of the membership and continuity internet offers. I'd
    suggest holding off on this project or sell it straight up.

    Then go back to the drawing board after you see a
    document with a VISA and Mastercard logo on it.

    Be very wary. Right now.
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    • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
      Seriously?

      While some of the guidelines put out by visa/mc may be somewhat unclear, I thought it was pretty clear that if there is going to be a charge in the future there has to be one now.

      The reason this has come about is because of all the deceptive practices that have been going on and the merchant providers are tired of dealing with it. These kinds of payments are a very small part of the total number of payments they deal with but a huge percentage of their complaints and they want to put a stop to that.

      This is not an FTC keep the govt from taking me to court and take some of my money thing. This is a am I going to have someone to process my credit cards thing. Personally I think that is worse as there really is no due process involved and you can find yourself out in the cold in the middle of a big campaign without the ability to accept payments.

      If people keep trying to skirt the rules what will end up happening is that they will stop these automatic payment altogether and honestly it would not surprise me at all if by this time next year that is what happens.

      If you look at your copy and there is any doubt in your mind that your 88 year old never been on a website before grandmother would be confused by it then rethink it. Once you think it is perfectly clear run it by your provider and see what they think. Only then would I go for it.

      The rules have changed, stop fighting it and just find yourself a different way of doing things. If you keep trying to find a way to continue on the same path you will end up in a bad place.





      Originally Posted by emaildeliverypro View Post

      No payment for 14 days

      how about that
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        While some of the guidelines put out by visa/mc may be somewhat unclear, I thought it was pretty clear that if there is going to be a charge in the future there has to be one now.
        I haven't heard anything to that effect. Got a pointer? That would settle the question if it's true.


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        • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
          The way it was explained to me by my rep was that it fell under the deferred billing part of the rules. She very clearly told me that if there were going to be any future charges that I would have to charge some kind of fee upfront. Is this true of all the processors I have no idea but if not yet I get the feeling that it will be.

          Marketing models that employ "Free-Trial", "Deferred Billing" and/or "Shipping Only". Customers must be receiving a tangible good or contracted service in exchange for charging of payment cards. Incentivized discount offers are acceptable when the cardholder is receiving something in exchange for payment, however we will be unable to support accounts engaging in hidden or delayed charges and 'free' offers that are not truly free.

          Here are a couple of links to start

          New Visa Mastercard Guidelines for Negative Options

          Online Direct Marketing & The New Visa MasterCard Merchant Account Rules | Bill McIntosh


          Every bank and processor is going to have a slightly different take on the rules and how much risk they are going to be willing to accept. The best thing anyone can do is have their processor look over and approve any pages and/sales copy ahead of time and approve it (or not).

          They are in suspend accounts first ask questions later mode right now. My thought is why take any chances? Make sure what you are planning on doing is cleared by your merchant provider first and then you know there is not going to be a problem.

          Remember there are two lines that we are talking about. The FTC and Visa/MC. The FTC bar is lower and there will be due process involved. You fall on the wrong side of the visa/mc guidelines and there really is no due process, you can find your account suspended in the middle of a launch or campaign. Honestly not a chance I will be comfortable taking. Not much upside and a whole lot of downside.

          The solution is very easy. Do not guess, ask first and get approval. Make any changes they want and then go make some money.

          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          I haven't heard anything to that effect. Got a pointer? That would settle the question if it's true.


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          • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
            As always the majority and the good guys have to jump through hoops because of the greedy scammers.
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            ARVolund,
            Marketing models that employ "Free-Trial", "Deferred Billing" and/or "Shipping Only". Customers must be receiving a tangible good or contracted service in exchange for charging of payment cards. Incentivized discount offers are acceptable when the cardholder is receiving something in exchange for payment, however we will be unable to support accounts engaging in hidden or delayed charges and 'free' offers that are not truly free.
            The whole email this is quoted from is rather vague. The paragraph above is either poorly written or refers to two separate practices that are often used together.

            A classic example of what this sounds like it's referring to is the "free trial" offers made by CPA firms. You order a box of some product, allegedly for free or shipping costs, and are quietly enrolled in a monthly recurring billing program.

            This isn't anything like clear enough to be sure one is interpreting it correctly. The OP is best served by showing the complete intended sales piece to their processor and getting an answer from them. In writing.

            We already agreed on that, though.


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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              Brad,
              Unfortunately, lazy people who don't do anything with anything they buy online have convinced the government that all these "scammers" are out to get them.
              I haven't yet seen any government go after anyone for offering "free bonus with free subscription" deals. As long as the subscription requirement is made clear, I doubt we ever will.

              I can tell you that some of the "free" offers I've seen would not stand up to the affirmative consent requirements in CAN-SPAM. Yes, even some of the ones that require confirmation. Make another mistake that triggers CAN-SPAM applicability along with that, and there could potentially be trouble.

              Unlikely? Sure. Impossible? Not by a very long shot.

              I love this recurring argument we see all the time: "What did they think was going to happen?"

              They thought they were getting what was promised. If they considered beyond that, which many won't because of the amount of free info online, they will have expected that there are offers in the product itself. Or that the person giving the freebie hopes they'll do some other thing later, like subscribing.

              My response to people who scream that "Any sensible person would know this!" is: If you think they already know it, what is your objection to stating it in clear terms? If they already expect XYZ, and you say XYZ, how would that hurt anyone?

              If it would, then stop arguing that people already expect this, because they clearly don't. If it wouldn't, then stop arguing about it and say it up front, in clear terms.


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              • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                Hi Scott,

                As always the majority and the good guys have to jump through hoops because of the greedy scammers.
                I tried to point this out to people repeatedly when those who are looked up to in this market were jumping all over continuity not so long back - these are the people who not only use continuity on their prospects, but also TEACH them how to do it - therefore people tend to copy what they do.

                I won't bore everyone by telling you the names I was called for daring to make those comments in a public forum for the benefit of those who would copy, and those who would share a variety of contact details in exchange for a 'freebie' without reading the very small hidden print - but many of them were 'good guys'.

                They were back here a few months later complaining about mysterious phone calls and the inability to cancel (therefore having to cancel their credit cards), after saying en masse at the time - 'what is there to lose?' - while they encouraged others to jump aboard and cancel immediately in the review forum here.

                I hope the same names from that review forum aren't now whingeing about the FTC impeding their business (not aimed at you Scott, or anyone in particular.) To them I say -

                I told you so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Writingman1421
    Whats the status on "Risk-Free" Free trial is one thing, but "Risk Free" is completely different -- in my eyes anyway. Am I off base here? Is the issue with the word "free"

    Protecting consumers from greedy companies and shady dealings is one thing....but these sort of rules are just getting more & more ridiculous. I guess all consumers have are now under the mental capacity of.... "2+2= That Lampshade told me I was Pretty" --- If you catch my drift.

    I can't believe that all consumers are retarded (yes, I said "retarded") and can't understand the concept of a free trial. You try it for a few days, if you keep it, its no longer a "trial" -- it's a purchase. Is it that hard?

    Its getting to the point where you're going to need a lawyer to sell a damn toaster oven or electrical appliance.

    Potential Customer: "I Like this TV, I'd like to buy it now."

    Lawyer of TV Salesman: "Before allowing you to purchase this TV, my client is required by law to inform you about the following.

    1. Plugging in a TV submerged in water may result in death by electrocution.
    2. You should also know that swimming with the TV, while plugged in and turned on, may result in electrocution.
    3. If you run head first into the TV, it should be noted that serious injury or death may occur.
    4. Watching the TV from 1 inch away for 14 days straight may result in numerous health problems, mostly likely of which involves your eyes being vaporized.
    5. Too much TV will likely cause arguments with your wife, especially during romantic occasions, anniversaries, birthdays, and other holidays. Angry wife may cause harm to you, with or without using the TV as a weapon.

    Now that you know these things, will you be using cash or credit card? For your sake, we hope you won't be using a credit card that LEGALLY CARRIES A 79% INTEREST RATE!

    FTC my ass, bunch of scammers!

    Well, thats my rant -- sorry, but I had to let it out (I just read that credit card 79% interest thing, so I'm sure that didn't help, lol).

    I Actually don't even have these FTC issues (at least I don't think I do) cause Im more of an adsense guy -- I do dabble in affiliate marketing though.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Yeah, everyone knows most people don't bother to cancel, or have a problem. BESIDES, LOTS of things have had a 30 day+ guarantee. By your reasoning THEY give you a free trial also. And a lot of airlines offer a 24 hour cancellation on their bookings. Does that mean reservation is free? You only pay if you go past 24 hours, or after 1hour before the flight. For the record, Paul's wording IS fine. I doubt ANYONE will have problems with that.

    BTW about their "sneaking this in", haven't people brought this up before that the FTC considers free to mean free?

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  • Profile picture of the author GlengarryLeads
    You can, I believe, put "free trial" as long as you append it with "$5.95 s/h" or so on. I'm not exactly sure...

    You can also try other language like "Absolutely risk-free trial!" and that way you are simply saying its risk free and not "free."

    We knew for a long time that these regulations were coming down the pipe. It started when Google said that an opt-in wasn't free, and so basically if you advertised a "free offer" but required an opt-in for it, it wasn't free at all.

    The way to get around it is to simply reword things... but FTC guidelines are a huge pain in the ass for any internet marketer. The only saving grace is that unless you're a big company or in a risky industry they probably won't go after you, but why risk it...
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Spencer
      Originally Posted by GlengarryLeads View Post

      You can, I believe, put "free trial" as long as you append it with "$5.95 s/h" or so on. I'm not exactly sure...

      You can also try other language like "Absolutely risk-free trial!" and that way you are simply saying its risk free and not "free."

      We knew for a long time that these regulations were coming down the pipe. It started when Google said that an opt-in wasn't free, and so basically if you advertised a "free offer" but required an opt-in for it, it wasn't free at all.

      The way to get around it is to simply reword things... but FTC guidelines are a huge pain in the ass for any internet marketer. The only saving grace is that unless you're a big company or in a risky industry they probably won't go after you, but why risk it...
      Just my opinion but I swear I hate when people complain about something that's "free" but they have to opt in.

      Opting in doesn't cost anything I don't care what anyone can say about that.

      Since most people don't think in terms of "lifestyle cost" but actual "Monetary" cost then this is true. Plus if they really don't want to get emails from someone they can just opt out once they sign up. So there really isn't a cost to them.

      It just gets back to people bitching about having too much email even though they signed up to a giveaway event and then got 20 free ebooks, graphics, or other resale rights product...

      What do they expect to happen??????

      Uggh....sorry if this sounds like I'm being a dick (which I'm not trying to be) but at the same time I believe in personal responsibility and this relates as well to the OP about FTC/CC rules.

      Unfortunately, lazy people who don't do anything with anything they buy online have convinced the government that all these "scammers" are out to get them.

      Yet another point to the "welfare" crowd.

      As someone who has signed up for 1$ trials and stuck and also cancelled, I can say it has been super simple...and even if it wasn't you can always go to the credit card companies to get your money back. So really there isn't any "scamming" going on b/c no one actually loses their money (all processors protect buyers WAAAAYYYY more than the people who actually pay the processors their revenue).

      So basically, what I wish the government, credit card companies, and everyone else would do is encourage smarter consumers who don't fall for stupid tactics that are there to remove risk (that's the point of a trial) and follow the golden rule.

      Also...people BE SMART WITH YOUR MONEY!!!

      Cheers,

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      • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
        Brad

        Actually I completely agree with you and I can easily go on a welfare rant and do once in awhile.

        I believe what is driving this push from Visa/MC is mostly a cost issue. People do call them and complain and get charges reversed all the time and that is the problem. Every one of those calls cost them money.

        I do not know what the dollar amount that is processed every day from continuity programs but I would guess it is way less than the amount that is processed every day just from people paying for gas for their cars. What is the percentage of those charges that have to dealt with by Visa/MC compared to these continuity programs? I have no inside knowledge but my guess is the difference is huge (very huge), way out of proportion to the total sales.

        Then you also have a fair amount of those people blaming Visa/MC for letting that evil internet guy screw them over like that instead of taking any kind of personal responsibility for what happened. This is why they are calling what is going on "brand damaging" and putting a stop to it.

        Lets be honest as well, there have been a fair amount of people who have been scamming, hiding important info, etc from the customer, making it hard to cancel and all those other things that we all know is wrong. These marketers are probably responsible for most of the complaints and have made it harder for everyone involved.

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        Originally Posted by Brad Spencer View Post

        Just my opinion but I swear I hate when people complain about something that's "free" but they have to opt in.

        Opting in doesn't cost anything I don't care what anyone can say about that.

        Since most people don't think in terms of "lifestyle cost" but actual "Monetary" cost then this is true. Plus if they really don't want to get emails from someone they can just opt out once they sign up. So there really isn't a cost to them.

        It just gets back to people bitching about having too much email even though they signed up to a giveaway event and then got 20 free ebooks, graphics, or other resale rights product...

        What do they expect to happen??????

        Uggh....sorry if this sounds like I'm being a dick (which I'm not trying to be) but at the same time I believe in personal responsibility and this relates as well to the OP about FTC/CC rules.

        Unfortunately, lazy people who don't do anything with anything they buy online have convinced the government that all these "scammers" are out to get them.

        Yet another point to the "welfare" crowd.

        As someone who has signed up for 1$ trials and stuck and also cancelled, I can say it has been super simple...and even if it wasn't you can always go to the credit card companies to get your money back. So really there isn't any "scamming" going on b/c no one actually loses their money (all processors protect buyers WAAAAYYYY more than the people who actually pay the processors their revenue).

        So basically, what I wish the government, credit card companies, and everyone else would do is encourage smarter consumers who don't fall for stupid tactics that are there to remove risk (that's the point of a trial) and follow the golden rule.

        Also...people BE SMART WITH YOUR MONEY!!!

        Cheers,

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    • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
      The FTC is not the issue for 99+% of us. The Visa/MC guidelines are and they specifically say that you cannot use risk free trial, risk free, or free if there is going to be a charge down the road. The only time you can use the word free or imply that there is no charge is when there is not going to be one EVER. If you plan on charging them next month for a membership then you just cannot use the word free.

      So you charge a $4.95 for a 14 day trial period as a very easy solution. Is this really going to lower your conversions so much that you would risk losing your merchant account? The big thought to keep in mind as well is these rules are not coming from your bank but Visa and MC themselves so you lose your merchant account for trying to skate past the rules you well might not be able to get another one.


      Originally Posted by GlengarryLeads View Post

      You can, I believe, put "free trial" as long as you append it with "$5.95 s/h" or so on. I'm not exactly sure...

      You can also try other language like "Absolutely risk-free trial!" and that way you are simply saying its risk free and not "free."

      We knew for a long time that these regulations were coming down the pipe. It started when Google said that an opt-in wasn't free, and so basically if you advertised a "free offer" but required an opt-in for it, it wasn't free at all.

      The way to get around it is to simply reword things... but FTC guidelines are a huge pain in the ass for any internet marketer. The only saving grace is that unless you're a big company or in a risky industry they probably won't go after you, but why risk it...
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    You can say Take 14 days On Me and then explain the offer
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  • Profile picture of the author davemiz
    you can't use the word risk free ,or free... UNLESS the offer IS free.

    if MC/Visa gets wind of it, i've been hearing they will fine you, 100k.... if you can't pay it, your merchant has to, and they will look to recover it from you.

    basak's thing is spot on.

    and also.... if you're doing continuity, i've heard you need 2 separate check boxes so the user has to manually check them both, on different pages to confirm they want the trial.

    do i agree with all this? no, but its a crazy time.
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  • Profile picture of the author chris032
    Is there any free FTC disclaimers for people who do blogs and article marketing on the internet, as well as affiliate marketing? Or do I have to find a lawyer and pay so much money to have a legal FTC disclaimer put on my website?Thank YouChris
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