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hi,

well i really hope so because as you can see on this thread everybody seems to be saying different things, but i just want to know how many to submit daily to eza is a good number? & yes i want articles to drive traffic & i will also submit to go for backlinks i think?
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"Articles are for building trust and credibility" - of course. The benefit in strict business sense: marked increase in conversion rates.

I tried PPC. Didn't work for me - too 'cold' to convert.

Article traffic, on the other hand, was absolutely fabulous - my simple (short) sales page converts predictably at ~6%. The ROI is simply staggering.

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hi,

yes ive done ppc before & its just money & no ROI, but i hope article marketing is good for me too as it is for you.
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Well start writing, sometimes, like today i don't feel up to it but i said to myself...

"What the hell, if i just search for a good keyword and take my time writing a half decent article for it then i've got my finger in another pie"
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Right tuzic, everything you need to know to improve your articles is in this
thread but just in case you are confused here is a check list.

1. Do your keyword research, look for long tailed keywords in your niche with
100- 10,000 searches, you can use:

https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

2. When you have a list of long tailed keywords in your niche, write an article
around each keyword.

3. Use the keyword in your article headline, also use it often in your article body.

4.Write a quality article which guides your readers down to your resource
box.Your article should be set out in paragraphs that lead on from each other.

5. Create a targeted resource box that directly relates to your article and
niche with a call to action.

You can write as many or as little articles as you like each day, there is
no upper or lower limits.

This is just a very simple list, I don't think I need to go any deeper into
it, if anyone thinks I have missed something important, just post it.

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In the niche I'm in (a super competitive one) I am sure that even all the long tail keywords are taken.

So I've quit doing keyword research. I use the articles to get 'upfront' traffic - if they get indexed by the search engines then it's icing on the cake.

Anyways, my results from 140 articles in the screenshot below -
All keywords are NEVER taken, I find new ones for anything every day, even the IM niche. Tell me your niche and I will give you 10 long tail keyword phrases under 30 minutes.

The key is finiding RELATED keywords and then spinning them off towards your products in your articles.

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Do you guys think mine is ok?

Article Views = 4,264
URL Clicks = 740

18 Live articles
Those are pretty decent results for such a low number of articles.

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That's a bit short-sided don't you think?

If there was absolutely zero money or profit involved, would you be doing it?

Be honest.

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Building trust, brand and credibility is only like 10% of what article marketing is about. If you are doing it for that sole purpose, you are just leaving A LOT of money on the table.

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Have i hit a goldmine keyword?

That strange thing is happening again, google keyword tool lists this as 9,900 -12,100 searches, keyword tracker gives 32.

When i type it in quotes in google i get this...

Results 1 - 100 of about 749 for

I think i could spin the keyword into my playground, but i'm not sure what to trust.
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Have i hit a goldmine keyword?

That strange thing is happening again, google keyword tool lists this as 9,900 -12,100 searches, keyword tracker gives 32.

When i type it in quotes in google i get this...

Results 1 - 100 of about 749 for

I think i could spin the keyword into my playground, but i'm not sure what to trust.
That is a fine example of a good keyword.

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Wow, i think i've found an amazing groups of searches that it seems no one is targeting. It's a group of keywords relating to health asking for information, the keywords have nothing to do with a product but i'm sure it could be spun for a product or even an adsense blog would probably make a fair bit.

Each keyword has between 1,000-12,000 searches, keyword tracker picks one up as 1,000 per day and yet no one is targeting them.

Do you think i sohuld go ahead and work something out for these keywords?
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All keywords are NEVER taken, I find new ones for anything every day, even the IM niche. Tell me your niche and I will give you 10 long tail keyword phrases under 30 minutes.
Let's do this for Tuzic instead. He's in the dating niche.

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Let's do this for Tuzic instead. He's in the dating niche.

>500 monthly searches (on the Google Adwords keyword tool) and less than 10,000 optimized results on Google.
Sure, but you are aiming too high. I suggest 100 daily searches and less than 10,000 Google competition.

50 articles like this = about 5,000 daily views to your articles if you are ranking first (Which if the article alone doesn't, you just need a few backlinks to do so). With a 20% mediocre CTR = 1,000 daily unique visitors to your site.

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hi,

sorry confused again,

when i used the keyword search tool on google i typed a phrase like finding a date online & also typed in other words & the type of search i did was "phrase" too so i can write an article on this. But i looked for searches that were under 100 exactly. Then i put that phrase in google search on the actual google iste & searched in "" & i decided to use the keyword that had searches under 10,000 because in this thread thats what i thought was a good way.............am i doing this right then?

& how do i know if the keywords have been used?
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Sorry for this but i'm amazed at these keywords, 1,300 this month 1,600 last month and there are only THREE competing websites in google.
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My opinion, Tuzic -

Consider going into a less competitive niche which is not that 'saturated' yet - you'll find it easier to locate good long tail keywords.

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Sure, but you are aiming too high. I suggest 100 daily searches and less than 10,000 Google competition.

50 articles like this = about 5,000 daily views to your articles if you are ranking first (Which if the article alone doesn't, you just need a few backlinks to do so). With a 20% mediocre CTR = 1,000 daily unique visitors to your site.

Start counting 30 minutes.
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1. seduce a capricorn
2. seduce and aries man
3. seduce a gemini
4. how to seduce a virgo
5. seduce a virgo
6. seduce a scorpio
7. types of flirt signals
8. learn how to french kiss
9. instructions on how to french kiss
10. how to kiss a woman

That took me 15 minutes, all within the parameters I mentioned and all can easily be spun around to ANY dating niche product.

For the horoscope ones, just mention a few traits of that respective sign after some research and then tell them to go to the product you are promoting in the resource box to know EXACTLY how you can do it. Or you can just bash on the horoscope say it's a scam and that you will show them the real thing.

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My opinion, Tuzic -

Consider going into a less competitive niche which is not that 'saturated' yet - you'll find it easier to locate good long tail keywords.
The more competition means there is more demand, so more potential sales. Both ways are effective, but high demand means more potential customers. It's just a matter of working hard and you can penetrate into any niche.

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Tuzic, maybe you're starting in the wrong place

In 4 days i've had 460 odd views and 65 click throughs, dominated both my keywords and am hoping for my first sale through EZA very soon!

Give it another go dude, maybe try an area that's not so competative

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Sorry for this but i'm amazed at these keywords, 1,300 this month 1,600 last month and there are only THREE competing websites in google.
You are beggining to find out how much of a joke it actually is to find good keyword for ANY niche.

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Keywords

1. seduce a capricorn
2. seduce and aries man
3. seduce a gemini
4. how to seduce a virgo
5. seduce a virgo
6. seduce a scorpio
7. types of flirt signals
8. learn how to french kiss
9. instructions on how to french kiss
10. how to kiss a woman

That took me 15 minutes, all within the parameters I mentioned and all can easily be spun around to ANY dating niche product.

For the horoscope ones, just mention a few traits of that respective sign after some research and then tell them to go to the product you are promoting in the resource box to know EXACTLY how you can do it. Or you can just bash on the horoscope say it's a scam and that you will show them the real thing.

You can spin any related keyword towards any product.

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but in this you have mentioned the different star signs which is great becaseu this clearly relates to online dating, but can i ask how you got these keywords? for example what did you type in the google keyword toll to get these good keywords?
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Consider going into a less competitive niche which is not that 'saturated' yet - you'll find it easier to locate good long tail keywords.
Tuzic, don't listen to this advice. As someone who has been in the dating niche for years this market is only saturated by people who don't know what they are doing. I've seen hundreds of competitors come and go. Most of them fizzle out within a few months. The ones that ONLY rely on PPC are usually the first to go. You're getting some good advice here on how to mine for long tail keywords. Another thing to think about is using press releases and other forms of free publicity to get massive amounts of traffic to your site.

You've also got to become an article and content creating machine. You can get so many ideas from other authors by looking at the titles of their articles and check and see how they rank in Google, Yahoo, and MSN (if you're so inclined). You should be promoting no less than ten products and have your autoresponder follow up with your opt-ins for at least a year.

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hi,

many thanks for your reply & yes i agree i shall stick with, thanks for that.

but what do you mean by "You should be promoting no less than ten products" ?
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Keywords

1. seduce a capricorn
2. seduce and aries man
3. seduce a gemini
4. how to seduce a virgo
5. seduce a virgo
6. seduce a scorpio
7. types of flirt signals
8. learn how to french kiss
9. instructions on how to french kiss
10. how to kiss a woman
Nice work, Daniel.

Tuzic - why don't you use this list and then report back your results in a few days time?

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Keywords

1. seduce a capricorn
2. seduce and aries man
3. seduce a gemini
4. how to seduce a virgo
5. seduce a virgo
6. seduce a scorpio
7. types of flirt signals
8. learn how to french kiss
9. instructions on how to french kiss
10. how to kiss a woman

That took me 15 minutes, all within the parameters I mentioned and all can easily be spun around to ANY dating niche product.

For the horoscope ones, just mention a few traits of that respective sign after some research and then tell them to go to the product you are promoting in the resource box to know EXACTLY how you can do it. Or you can just bash on the horoscope say it's a scam and that you will show them the real thing.

You can spin any related keyword towards any product.
You've given a lot of great information in your posts and I appreciate that but the keywords listed above do not get 100 daily searches. According to Google Adwords Keyword Tool

1. seduce a capricorn = 720 searches per month
2. seduce and aries man = 320 per month
3. seduce a gemini = 720/month
4. how to seduce a virgo = 590 / month
5. seduce a virgo = 880 / month
6. seduce a scorpio = 1900 / month (gettng closer)
7. types of flirt signals = (not enough data)
8. learn how to french kiss = 2,400+
9. instructions on how to french kiss = 320 / month
10. how to kiss a woman = 590

I did not check these to see what the competition was like and they may be great keywords but certainly not 100+ daily searches (3,000 / month).

If the above terms didn't have too much competition I would still go after them though. I would not throw out the list because the terms are only getting 20 - 30 daily searches.

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hang on a minute, arent you all saying that we should look for words on google keywords tool that have under 100 searches on the tool ???? so any words aboe that are too competitive to write about?? please confirm?
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but in this you have mentioned the different star signs which is great becaseu this clearly relates to online dating, but can i ask how you got these keywords? for example what did you type in the google keyword toll to get these good keywords?
For 1-6 I typed "seduce", for 7 I typed "flirt", for 8-10 I typed "kiss".

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hang on a minute, arent you all saying that we should look for words on google keywords tool that have under 100 searches on the tool ???? so any words aboe that are too competitive to write about?? please confirm?
If a key word term had 500 daily searches and only 200 competing web sites would you not use that term because it has more than 100 daily searches?

You want to find search terms with as many searches as possible while having as little competition as possible.

Competition is not determined by the number of searches but by the number of websites optimizing for that search term.

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You've given a lot of great information in your posts and I appreciate that but the keywords listed above do not get 100 daily searches. According to Google Adwords Keyword Tool

1. seduce a capricorn = 720 searches per month
2. seduce and aries man = 320 per month
3. seduce a gemini = 720/month
4. how to seduce a virgo = 590 / month
5. seduce a virgo = 880 / month
6. seduce a scorpio = 1900 / month (gettng closer)
7. types of flirt signals = (not enough data)
8. learn how to french kiss = 2,400+
9. instructions on how to french kiss = 320 / month
10. how to kiss a woman = 590

I did not check these to see what the competition was like and they may be great keywords but certainly not 100+ daily searches (3,000 / month).

If the above terms didn't have too much competition I would still go after them though. I would not throw out the list because the terms are only getting 20 - 30 daily searches.
I'm talking about daily searches. Check the competition they are all below 10,000.

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For 1-6 I typed "seduce", for 7 I typed "flirt", for 8-10 I typed "kiss".

i dont understand what 1-6 means or 8-10?

Also when you look for keywords that are under 100 in daily searches in the keyword tool how do u ge tthe daily? since there only monthly searches available?

also how did u get those searches anyway of capricorn, flirt, venus etc? how did u do it?
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I'm talking about daily searches. Check the competition they are all below 10,000.

You said you look for search terms that get 100 daily searches. The ones on the list get 20 - 30 per day.

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i dont understand what 1-6 means or 8-10?

Also when you look for keywords that are under 100 in daily searches in the keyword tool how do u ge tthe daily? since there only monthly searches available?

also how did u get those searches anyway of capricorn, flirt, venus etc? how did u do it?
He numbered his list from 1 to 10. Thats what 1-6 and 8-10 mean.

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soo all whats is it then under 100 searches? & how did you all get those keywords anway of capricorn & all those star signs? & on google there is no daily searches results? so where can we see those?
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I'm talking about daily searches.
OK, let's make this clear. So each of the keywords above have 100+ searches DAILY?

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I was wondering the same thing.

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OK, let's make this clear. So each of the keywords above have 100+ searches DAILY?
No, they don't and that was my point. They very well may be great keywords to go after but they do not get 100+ daily searches. Although I would still praise Daniel for his contributions to this thread, giving a lot of great info.

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right ok, i thought you aimed for words that had 100 searches a day or under ? so say 60-70 would u write an article for this?
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right ok, i thought you aimed for words that had 100 searches a day or under ? so say 60-70 would u write an article for this?
As many searches as possible with 10,000 or less competing websites when searched for with the keyword in quotes.

I hope that is less confusing.

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You said you look for search terms that get 100 daily searches. The ones on the list get 20 - 30 per day.
I'm not using the Google tool, that only shows Google results. I'm using one that shows all main search engine search results put together (SEO Book Tool).

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I'm not using the Google tool, that only shows Google results. I'm using one that shows all mains search engine searchr results put together (SEO Book Tool).
That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification and the great info in this thread.

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No, they don't and that was my point. They very well may be great keywords to go after but they do not get 100+ daily searches.
Well. 20-30 per day per article still is good - although going by fair share you're probably going to capture say 30-50% of these searches to be optimistic.

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Well. 20-30 per day per article still is good - although going by fair share you're probably going to capture say 30-50% of these searches to be optimistic.
I'll go after terms with less than 100 searches per day if the competition is low.

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You aim for 100+ in daily search results and less than 10,000 in competition.

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This thread had inspired me. Thanks. I'm actually a little frightened about what to do with these keywords now. I feel like i've been handed the tools to build something that will make lots of money on a silver platter and i'm overwhelmed hehe.
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Write something that is close to your heart or things that you really want then load it up with keywords!

People think that by writing keyword loaded articles they would get several thousands of hits. Let let me tell you "NO!", to get traffic you must write something valuable! something with feelings, something that is true! then load it up with the proper keywords.

Go to the article directories, check out the most read articles. This are the articles that are really valuable. Really thought out or written by experts. Maybe it is loaded with keywords but that doesnt mean that they just wrote whatever trash they could put in there and expect heavy traffic.

People must like your articles..Then they will click on your link to get more of that good feeling or valuable information that your article has provided
them. If your into seduction or attraction thing, look for the person in your group that is either really into seduction or someone who's been doing it for a long time. Then edit the wordings check where or what word you can replace with your keyword.

Otherwise your article will be bland and in my opinion should not have been given anytime at all.

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You aim for 100+ in daily search results and less than 10,000 in competition.
This is only ONE way to go about it. If you take a look at some of the more prolific article writers on the forum, you will soon see that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

TimG - If you look at what he does you will see that he often targets keywords with as few as 10 - 15 searches a day with low competition
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Steven Wagenheim - I stalked this guy for over 2 months and I seriously
think that before he started marketing products outside of the IM niche
that he only targeted 2 keywords in his entire life and I think we all
know the rest.

When you are talking about Article Marketing or any kind of marketing in
general, often times, there is no one size fits all solution. The correct way
is the method that your comfort level allows you to take action, even if
it is only a small amount.

So, for people like Tuzic that are looking for some direction, I say this
to you. Don't buy another product or try to learn a new method until
you at least put what you already know into action to see what your
results are. When you start being productive you will often times be
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This is only ONE way to go about it. If you take a look at some of the more prolific article writers on the forum, you will soon see that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

TimG - If you look at what he does you will see that he often targets keywords with as few as 10 - 15 searches a day with low competition
and he is making a killing.

Steven Wagenheim - I stalked this guy for over 2 months and I seriously
think that before he started marketing products outside of the IM niche
that he only targeted 2 keywords in his entire life and I think we all
know the rest.

When you are talking about Article Marketing or any kind of marketing in
general, often times, there is no one size fits all solution. The correct way
is the method that your comfort level allows you to take action, even if
it is only a small amount.

So, for people like Tuzic that are looking for some direction, I say this
to you. Don't buy another product or try to learn a new method until
you at least put what you already know into action to see what your
results are. When you start being productive you will often times be
surprised by how good your results are.
Yes, Jeremy is right. This is my method and it has done wonders for me, but that doesn't mean it's the only way to do so.

In fact Jeremy, I have been aiming for 30+ daily search results lately and it's giving me pretty awesome results (the competition for those keywords is usually even lower, therefore easier to rank for).

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Yes, Jeremy is right. This is my method and it has done wonders for me, but that doesn't mean it's the only way to do so.

In fact Jeremy, I have been aiming for 30+ daily search results lately and it's giving me pretty awesome results (the competition for those keywords is usually even lower, therefore easier to rank for).

I've been lowering my daily search limit too and have found a couple things to be true....

1. The competition that is out there for those keywords...isn't very good
2. I am actually getting more traffic than I expected
3. It makes my life a whole lot easier

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Wow. I just realized that I'm actually doing pretty well with article marketing even though I haven't done much of it.

3 live articles
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(and counting)

The articles have contributed such a small part of the total traffic that it never dawned on me that I have barely even scratched the surface.

Who knew?!? That means that for every 30 articles, I should get 430 URL clicks out of it -- not bad! Plus, you theoretically increase your search engine juice. Plus, people keep finding the articles themselves for a while, no?

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Wow. I just realized that I'm actually doing pretty well with article marketing even though I haven't done much of it.

3 live articles
202 article views
43 URL clicks

(and counting)

The articles have contributed such a small part of the total traffic that it never dawned on me that I have barely even scratched the surface.

Who knew?!? That means that for every 30 articles, I should get 430 URL clicks out of it -- not bad! Plus, you theoretically increase your search engine juice. Plus, people keep finding the articles themselves for a while, no?
If you do the proper keyword research and implementation then yes, people will find your articles forever, even after years of submitting them.

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