No sales for 3 months

[Nick Bentley]

I have been undyingly patient with my online business. Is it normal to have really no sales for the first 3 months of starting my business.

I was thinking that all my hard work will pay off after 6 months. Is that really it?

[Formulam]

Are you getting traffic? I don't make many sales.... but then I have almost no traffic and I've only got myself to blame for a shortage of action! If you are getting traffic and clickthroughs but no sales, you may want to ask yourself if you are in the right niche. I hope this helps, good luck!

[yommys01]

You need to teach us exactly what you have done. Are you getting traffic? How are you preselling your traffic? You may want to try some other things while you learn affiliate marketing.

[lowjo]

My really bad answer here is ... it depends...and only because I know nothing about what you have got going on here.

It is very likely that you'll not make any money in the first 3 months or longer.

Now this is not always the case but even the best of campaigns could easily take that long to really bring in traffic and then sales.

There are so many factors to take into account here and if you've got a good product, a good offer, picked the right keywords and have a good plan of attack then you'll get results.

Some people never make any money at this but they usually don't have a good plan, don't put that plan into action or they just give up too soon.

Got some specific questions or want someone to cast an eye over your campaign just ask. Plenty of help here on the forum and if you put the advice into action you'll get results. Sometimes pretty darn fast.

Not really helpful but hey, stick in there!

Cheers,

Jonathan

[Toby Lewis]

Let us know what you're trying. Warriors are very helpful at pointing you in the right direction

[zoobie]

Well, what have you done? what kind of products are you selling? How many hours per day that you work on your online business? Unless you tell us more then we will able to help you.. Cheers!

[Alan Cheng]

They guys above are right. You should measure your success based on how much traffic you've generated.

If you've got a flood of traffic and no sales, then you need to tweet your offer.

If you've been working your ass off with no traffic, then your marketing's wrong.

[newton]

If you can supply more details about what you are trying to sell and also what you have done so far, you'll get some good answers here for sure.

Otherwise we are just guessing

Tony

[Swastik]

Yes; we'll need some more details.

What are you doing? How are you trying to drive traffic? How much traffic are you driving? How are you pre-selling the traffic?

Without an answer to these questions, an answer to yours would be rather difficult.

[KenJ]

Hi Nick

I know what this is like. It took me 5 months before I made a sale. Looking at the site in your sig. there is nothing wrong with what you are doing. I think that some people find your model of business easy to make money with and others find it impossible.

You need a lot of traffic to get enough readers and potential buyers for you website.

It might be worth you looking at another business type to run alongside what you are doing. e.g. I am concentrating on product creation which is making me plenty of money.

PM me if you want mor info

kenj

[Nick Bentley]

Hi Guys,

Thank you for all your answers. Actually I am getting maybe not so many traffic this time. I can say that my product is really very good, I heard and I've actually seen a lot of people succeed with those 3 high ticket products. These product enclose vacation packages, softwares, ebooks and many others. I can actually make money separately with these 3 products.

I am very enthusiastic with my article and video marketing,social bookmarking and other kinds of promotions. Maybe I was just desperate to see immediate results, that is why I come to realize that I should just be very patient.

What I am lacking right now is building list of people for my email campaign. Can you give me any idea on how to start. I have been on a dry run for a month now, and nothing seem to be very effective.

I really appreciate all your thoughts guys, that is why I cling to this forum because I know a lot of you can really help especially to a newbie like me.

[newton]

Hi Nick

Are they your products or affiliate products?

If they are your own products, then set up an affiliate program and go after joint ventures. Find where the traffic is hanging out and get your offer in front of them.

Tony

[Kevin Marshall]

Originally Posted by Nick Bentley

Hi Guys,

Thank you for all your answers. Actually I am getting maybe not so many traffic this time. I can say that my product is really very good, I heard and I've actually seen a lot of people succeed with those 3 high ticket products. These product enclose vacation packages, softwares, ebooks and many others. I can actually make money separately with these 3 products.

I am very enthusiastic with my article and video marketing,social bookmarking and other kinds of promotions. Maybe I was just desperate to see immediate results, that is why I come to realize that I should just be very patient.

What I am lacking right now is building list of people for my email campaign. Can you give me any idea on how to start. I have been on a dry run for a month now, and nothing seem to be very effective.

I really appreciate all your thoughts guys, that is why I cling to this forum because I know a lot of you can really help especially to a newbie like me.

What you need to do is to setup an Aweber or GetResponse account. Aweber allows you to put a mailing list on your pages, and people will start subscribing to your mailing list. It costs $20 a month, but you won't need many sales to make this up. There are cheaper services you can get, but I do NOT advise using cheaper alternatives. It is very difficult to move a mailing list from one service to another service, so you want to start with the right mailing list service right away.

[Syndicator]

Hi Nick, how is your opt-in working out for you from your page in your signature?

Do you have regular action from that? If YES, do you contact your list regularly and drive them back to your site and/or offers?

Is this your only income stream? Have you been developing others or just focusing on this 1?

[dougp]

Originally Posted by Nick Bentley

I have been undyingly patient with my online business. Is it normal to have really no sales for the first 3 months of starting my business.

I was thinking that all my hard work will pay off after 6 months. Is that really it?

Yet you have a blog that instructs people on how to make a passive income online? Talking about the blind leading the blind.

Doug

[Brad Gosse]

Patient how? What have you been waiting for?

Are you making traffic or watching stats? If so how are you making traffic?

[Jill Carpenter]

Originally Posted by warrich

I am using click bank from last 2 years and i have not earn a single cent.. any suggestion for me?

Same as above.

How are you marketing your clickbank items?

Writing articles? Blogging? What is your traffic?

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by Nick Bentley

Hi Guys,

Thank you for all your answers. Actually I am getting maybe not so many traffic this time. I can say that my product is really very good, I heard and I've actually seen a lot of people succeed with those 3 high ticket products. These product enclose vacation packages, softwares, ebooks and many others. I can actually make money separately with these 3 products.

I am very enthusiastic with my article and video marketing,social bookmarking and other kinds of promotions. Maybe I was just desperate to see immediate results, that is why I come to realize that I should just be very patient.

What I am lacking right now is building list of people for my email campaign. Can you give me any idea on how to start. I have been on a dry run for a month now, and nothing seem to be very effective.

I really appreciate all your thoughts guys, that is why I cling to this forum because I know a lot of you can really help especially to a newbie like me.

Give it some time. I might have said this to many times on the warrior forum but the fact that I am making money ( I have already done my first $3k month this month ) is a surprise to even myself.

See, in Nigeria, we have so many things going against us. In fact, my dad was passionately against the idea when I first started. We had no power supply ( we have had no power supply since last Saturday, they gave us for 30 mins today though ), we are about the 4th large producer of oil but one of the most expensive.

Internet connection is annoyingly slow ( serious, not kidding ), clickbank does not accept us, paypal hates us, no one trustes a Nigerian e.t.c. But here I am, through the Blessings from God, the books I read, determination and the warrior forum making money.

I am not saying it to impress you but just to motivate you. It took me over a year ( was close to my second year ) before I made my first $100, but trust me, because I never stop reading, I had no time to think about giving up.

I remember a time when my girlfriend who was very supportive had to question my idea of making money online. She gave in to pressure but here today, I have finally proved her wrong and we are happy together.

I will never have gotten to where I am ( well, not where I am going to, just on the road to where my real destination is ) if I had given up.

All I will advise you is, read what other people are doing, take action and don't be the jack of all trades but also know that not everything works for everyone.

Know it that you can not make any money without traffic. Go out there, learn article marketing, forum posting, blog commenting, yahoo answers , link building e.t.c and do a combination or two of them in order to generate some traffic to your site then guage your progress.

I tried affiliate marketing back then but never had any success until I learnt article marketing and site flipping and now enjoying some success.

Sent you a pm as well.

[JustinDupre]

No sales comes down to a few things.

Your sales page design: It probably isn't fluid enough, hard to look at, or just isn't working. Check out your bounce rate with analytics. If it's high, you're design is a high factor to put the blame on there.

Sales copy: is it relevant. Is it quick and to the point? Do you have any testimonials? Is it even readable (grammar, spelling, use of language)?

How are you marketing? PPC, PPV, Social, SEO? Maybe your ads suck, or your Google SERPs snippits aren't helping your sales.

Take a step back and really analyze what you are doing. Check out analytics and see where everyone is bouncing? Your sales page? Your check out page? the blog pages? where?

[Nick Bentley]

Originally Posted by newton

Hi Nick

Are they your products or affiliate products?

If they are your own products, then set up an affiliate program and go after joint ventures. Find where the traffic is hanging out and get your offer in front of them.

Tony

that really sounds like a good idea. I'm gonna try and check that one out. thanks Newton.=)

[Nick Bentley]

Originally Posted by yommys01

Give it some time. I might have said this to many times on the warrior forum but the fact that I am making money ( I have already done my first $3k month this month ) is a surprise to even myself.

See, in Nigeria, we have so many things going against us. In fact, my dad was passionately against the idea when I first started. We had no power supply ( we have had no power supply since last Saturday, they gave us for 30 mins today though ), we are about the 4th large producer of oil but one of the most expensive.

Internet connection is annoyingly slow ( serious, not kidding ), clickbank does not accept us, paypal hates us, no one trustes a Nigerian e.t.c. But here I am, through the Blessings from God, the books I read, determination and the warrior forum making money.

I am not saying it to impress you but just to motivate you. It took me over a year ( was close to my second year ) before I made my first $100, but trust me, because I never stop reading, I had no time to think about giving up.

I remember a time when my girlfriend who was very supportive had to question my idea of making money online. She gave in to pressure but here today, I have finally proved her wrong and we are happy together.

I will never have gotten to where I am ( well, not where I am going to, just on the road to where my real destination is ) if I had given up.

All I will advise you is, read what other people are doing, take action and don't be the jack of all trades but also know that not everything works for everyone.

Know it that you can not make any money without traffic. Go out there, learn article marketing, forum posting, blog commenting, yahoo answers , link building e.t.c and do a combination or two of them in order to generate some traffic to your site then guage your progress.

I tried affiliate marketing back then but never had any success until I learnt article marketing and site flipping and now enjoying some success.

Sent you a pm as well.

Yes thanks yommy. I never really thought I knew everything that is why I constantly ask people who have undergone similar process. I am very open with new thoughts, I've been reading a lot, watching videos and the like.

Thank you for all the nice thoughts. I'll send you a PM in a little while.

Thanks again.

[Nick Bentley]

Originally Posted by kevinmarshall80

What you need to do is to setup an Aweber or GetResponse account. Aweber allows you to put a mailing list on your pages, and people will start subscribing to your mailing list. It costs $20 a month, but you won't need many sales to make this up. There are cheaper services you can get, but I do NOT advise using cheaper alternatives. It is very difficult to move a mailing list from one service to another service, so you want to start with the right mailing list service right away.

I already a an AWEBER account, thus I only have a few on my mailing list. What I really need to learn is how to get started with those follow up messages, I've had a few dry runs but nothing seem to work. But I will never stop learning and do a trial and error every now then. Thanks Kevin.

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by Nick Bentley

Yes thanks yommy. I never really thought I knew everything that is why I constantly ask people who have undergone similar process. I am very open with new thoughts, I've been reading a lot, watching videos and the like.

Thank you for all the nice thoughts. I'll send you a PM in a little while.

Thanks again.

You can't send PMs yet. Email me at admin at soccerfanbase.com if necessary.

[Nick Bentley]

Oh Yes. That is what I was thinking. Thanks again yommy.

[philipchallis]

Hi Nick,

I can sympaphise. I have been with network blazer for two months and have 21 sites offering top end tv's -tvhdready.net is the mother site. I get traffic 150 to one site but maybe this is hardly enough although by inputting the model number you would think they are near to buying.
Any ideas would be appreciated.

Phil

[Mark Hess]

The problem that I see is the niche (and not enough traffic)

I'm not sure what you are doing to drive traffic to your site, but it's only showing 17 backlinks to your blog which tells me you haven't done article marketing yet, it's not video marketing because you only have 3 video on YouTube... I noticed a little social bookmarking action but what are you really doing?

It also may be a good idea to get out of the make money online - internet marketing - mlm niche until you've actual made some money online and sold something.

Just think if right now I was getting ready to buy one of your "make money" products and I saw this thread?

Take a look #4 on this site: Your Net Biz | A My Internet Business, LLC Company

Believe me Nick, I'm not trying to be a prick... but I'm just saying... it sounds like you've bought into the idea of "making money online" without putting in any work and now you're seeing where that kind of mentality gets you.

Give it time, work your butt off promoting these sites and you will start seeing sales. Stop believing the things on your own sales pages and get to work.

[Barry Unruh]

Nick,

I hate to do this, but what the heck?

"PS oh btw, i use this system and it works like a champ!"

That is directly from a post on your sales page Passive Income page. So, either number 1, you are not telling us the truth, and you are fishing for people to visit your site. Or, number 2, you are not telling the truth to your site visitors.

Now, putting that aside. "CLICK HERE" is not likely to be very effective, when I have no idea what CLICK HERE is for. You are telling me it is a great system, but what is the name of it? Who's system? Why should I click there?

Your page looks great! I'm actually a little surprised you are not getting conversions, if you have traffic.

Who is Michael Cheney, and why does your opt-in give me his report? I thought the site was about Nick Bentley. Think like your visitors, they are reading about, and from Nick Bentley, and you want them to sign up for the unknown Michael Cheney. You need your own report, we want to hear more from Nick Bentley.

This is all meant to be positive criticism. Like I said, your site looks great. You are on the right track.

One last comment, then I will shut up. Make some money in other niches, before you start touting your ability to make money, and promoting yourself as a IM expert. It looks really strange to be promoting yourself as a professional, when you are coming here telling us you have been in IM for 3 months, with no sales.

[Floyd Fisher]

Originally Posted by Nick Bentley

I have been undyingly patient with my online business. Is it normal to have really no sales for the first 3 months of starting my business.

I was thinking that all my hard work will pay off after 6 months. Is that really it?

Nick:

Something is really wrong for that to be happening.

How about letting us peek under the hood, and see what you're dong?

Edit: I just took a look at what you're selling, and big alarm bells went off in my head.

Just for starters, let's talk about that vacation mlm you're pitching.

Can you honestly tell me your vacation packages are cheaper than what I can find at places like travelocity, cheaptickets, etc., etc., etc.? Have you actually done any price checking to see if this is even remotely true?

More than likely, it's not and I'll let you in on a little secret as to why: All travel is sold directly to the customer already. There is no jobber, no wholesaler, no middleman period. They all sell directly through the same computer system......saber (check this out, it's true pal). In other words, you're using the exact same system of distribution as a regular travel agent. Where is the savings in that?

So, if no one buys retail products from you, guess what you're pushing? A classic ponzi scheme. The only way you're going to make money is by selling the mlm membership, and eventually, someone is going to get hurt real bad.

Do you want that on your conscience? Do you want to be that kind of example to your kids? How about your wife? How do you think she is going to feel if god forbid, you actually succeed, only to be hauled off in matching bracelets for being a scammer?

I'm not saying don't get involved in MLM, but damnit, you gotta do a helluva lot of research before diving in.

Here's what you gotta look at for starters:

1. How much does it cost to join? If you're paying much more than say $250 (I don't know the exact figures anymore), it's a bang up sure sign you're being scammed.

2. Do they pay a comission just for signing people up? These usually are marketed as 'quickstart bonuses', and if that is part of the pay system, it's a flat out scam. I don't even need to go any further if that is true.

3. Are there any inventory requirements? Here's how much inventory you should be required to keep on hand in order to be an active business owner: none.

Then you gotta look into the product, and this is where it gets real interesting. You gotta get the dollar signs out of your head, and look at this like a consumer. If this was being sold at your local market, would you buy it? Would you recommend this to a friend? How well does the company stand behind it?

You gotta get past all the claims, and hard consumer-oriented research, and see if it makes sense to buy it. If you as a consumer wouldn't buy this, more than likely nobody else would either, it's a waste of time and money getting involved.

Sorry for the cold water here, but what I'm telling you is the gospel truth. In order to really make it in mlm, you have to have a mix or retail sales and sponsorship. Do it right, and you'll make a killing. Do it wrong, and you'll end up killing yourself.

I would put this in a PM, but I see you don't have that priveledge yet. That's cool, now everyone on the net can see this, and maybe I can save a life or two today besides you. Now that would make my day!

[Joshua Summers]

As some of the other suggested, I'd try promoting something you know really well or have actual personal experience from. It's a lot easier to market something you actually believe and have a passion for rather than something you hope will work. You need to be selling/preselling results, not products, which is hard to do if you haven't had any results yourself.

[JohnMcCabe]

I was going to suggest this system to you:

Your Net Biz | A My Internet Business, LLC Company

Then I noticed you already found it...

Given what Mark Hess noted, I have to question just how serious you are about this venture of yours.

There was another thread recently by a guy who claimed he'd been at it full time for seven months with no results. Turned out that "full time" meant a free blog every couple of months and roughly an article a week. It amounted to roughly a generous two weeks' worth of work spread over seven months.

Sounds like you might be in the same boat...

So instead of pointing you to a system, I'll leave it at this:

If this is the road you really want to run on, get off your ass and promote it like you mean it.

[Nick Bentley]

Originally Posted by KansasDragon

Nick,

I hate to do this, but what the heck?

"PS oh btw, i use this system and it works like a champ!"

That is directly from a post on your sales page Passive Income page. So, either number 1, you are not telling us the truth, and you are fishing for people to visit your site. Or, number 2, you are not telling the truth to your site visitors.

Now, putting that aside. "CLICK HERE" is not likely to be very effective, when I have no idea what CLICK HERE is for. You are telling me it is a great system, but what is the name of it? Who's system? Why should I click there?

Your page looks great! I'm actually a little surprised you are not getting conversions, if you have traffic.

Who is Michael Cheney, and why does your opt-in give me his report? I thought the site was about Nick Bentley. Think like your visitors, they are reading about, and from Nick Bentley, and you want them to sign up for the unknown Michael Cheney. You need your own report, we want to hear more from Nick Bentley.

This is all meant to be positive criticism. Like I said, your site looks great. You are on the right track.

One last comment, then I will shut up. Make some money in other niches, before you start touting your ability to make money, and promoting yourself as a IM expert. It looks really strange to be promoting yourself as a professional, when you are coming here telling us you have been in IM for 3 months, with no sales.

This is really an eye opener.. I am promoting the business for 3 months now but I have been on the internet business for 3 years. Just about 3 months that I have decided to have my own business and promoting my own business.

The Michael Cheney is part of my dry run, at least now you have widely given me an idea about that.

I really appreciate all your thoughts and ideas about my page. I am really very positive with criticism, in that way I can be able to restructure my marketing plan.

Thank you so much.

[johnben1444]

We have a lot of similar questions like this in the past, where people threaten to quit their online business as a result of lack of sales.

From my little experience, traffic is the number 1 problem of many online business owners.

You will want to measure your sales with your traffic.

The best way to do this is to install an ad tracker in your site and monitor your traffic.

Expect 100 unique visitors to 1 sales, thou you can do better but that is the average statistic.

Another thing you should look into is your choice of keywords, you would't want to pick keywords that are too competitive.

[sdentrepreneur]

If I am not making sales in 2 weeks but am getting web traffic, I change my offer or can the project. Getting leads and web traffic is easy once you put in the time to learn Internet Marketing.
I think many people get caught up in design and building a system. I am all about Targeted Web Traffic. If I make 1 sale per month off 1,000 visits, then I will work to get 10,000 visits per month. I average $900 per sale, so I don't need as many clients as someone using ClickBank or selling a E-Book.
Learning how to get targeted web traffic and building a big list is the Holy Grail of Internet Marketing.

[JonMills]

Sure, it depends on what products your selling and how your driving traffic to your site, It can be quicker and it can be slower