Post Count equates to Credibility...

by GavinLively Banned
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...NOT!!!

I find it odd to measure credibility or how sucessful one may be in their business by how many posts they may have at this or any other forum...

I would say to those who take this attitude... GET REAL!!!

It is NO great feat to consistently and compulsivley post to a forum on a daily basis regardless is you are contributing value or not... It's just not.

If this were a true measure of success and credibility in the Internet marketing realm you would see John Reese, Frank Kern, Mike Filsaime Jeff Walker, Jeff Johnson and every other multi-million dollar earning internet marketer consistently and compulsively posting to forums...THEY DON'T...Success leaves clues

POST COUNT MEANS NOTHING in the grand scheme of things...

It's a dangerous self-delusion to think sitting in front of a computer 8 hours a day posting to forums is a productive activity that will bring you consistent success in your internet business... It won't

It's also a dangerous self delusion to think just because you have a higher post count that independent, critical thinking, intelligent people actually think it truly equates to instant credibility...It doesn't,...Smart people know better.

Credibilty, like trust and respect is earned through tangible results from value given and shared NOT from an arbitray number next to your screen name.

This place is a good place to learn but Do NOT lose site of what the place really is and what it means to contribute... No one becomes an authority just because they happen to consistenly and compulsively post here or any other forum...

Don't belive the hype and just look at tangible results...

Nuff Said

Gavin
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Sure, if you just look at raw numbers, it's next to meaningless. But here you also get to see other helpful stats, like how many times the poster has been thanked and has given thanks to others. I think both are a very good indication as to their "value" and credibility. Nothing is foolproof, obviously, but it all adds up.

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    • Profile picture of the author GavinLively
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      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      Sure, if you just look at raw numbers, it's next to meaningless. But here you also get to see other helpful stats, like how many times the poster has been thanked and has given thanks to others. I think both are a very good indication as to their "value" and credibility. Nothing is foolproof, obviously, but it all adds up.

      John
      I just gave you a thanks

      Gavin
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      • Profile picture of the author garyfromdurham
        I think there are people who do place mistakenly put a lot of emphasis on post counts.

        When I see how often some people post I wonder when on earth they find the time to work.

        However it is not hard to see which Warriors consistently post informative, helpful posts that prove their credibility.

        In my short time here I now know which posters are worth listening to and which ones just post drival which is not worth reading.

        Some of the people I look out for have high posts counts, some don't.

        The numbers themselves are not proof of credibility.

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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Right back at ya, but I don't do that unless I really believe the post deserves it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Originally Posted by GavinLively View Post

    POST COUNT MEANS NOTHING in the grand scheme of things...
    Nice post, but...

    Does anything we do in marketing mean anything in Grand Scheme of things?

    The simple fact that a lot of people do think post count has some modicum of meaning gives it meaning. Perception is reality.
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    • Profile picture of the author GavinLively
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      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Nice post, but...

      Does anything we do in marketing mean anything in Grand Scheme of things?.
      Yes, I think some things do objectively hold more value, hence have more meaning than other things...Especially when you are trying to quantify or measure something in reality... like being a sucessful business owner

      And when I say "Grand Scheme" I mean it in the context of being objectively and comparitively successful in ones own business...

      Gavin
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Long
    Couldn't agree more. As long as I've been doing this, I should have thousands of posts by now.

    But I struggle to post much here at all.

    Why?

    It's a standard I set for myself.

    My take is this: if I'm going to make a post, my goal is to make 90% of them useful enough to earn a "thanks" from someone. Not because I need to feed my ego, but because I don't want to open my mouth unless I'm certain that I can post something that is useful to someone, or helped someone in some way.

    I work hard to avoid "me too" or +1 types of responses, as they simply don't add anything to the discussion or take the thread forward in any way. And even when I do post a "me too" type of response (which this ultimately is), I try to ensure that I'm approaching it from a new angle, which might give others something additional to think about.

    Some people are far better at this than I am. Tim Gorman and Rod Cortez for example, are two people whom I've trained myself to read every single thing they post - because they hold themselves to a very similar standard. When those two guys take the time to write something, it usually means they have something important to share with you or teach you.

    Since I'm more comfortable in the background, I'm not able to do it with the same volume that they do. But make no mistake - neither of them are in the top percentages of frequent posters, but they've been around long enough, and helped enough people to make it clear that their carefully chosen words always carry weight.

    Again, it's a standard I work hard to uphold within my own posts. It's frightening to imagine how much further we might have collectively advanced our marketing techniques if everyone held to a similar standard, and said more with less.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Mike Long View Post

      Couldn't agree more. As long as I've been doing this, I should have thousands of posts by now.

      But I struggle to post much here at all.

      Why?

      It's a standard I set for myself.
      ...or perhaps you undervalue what you have to say. Every post doesn't have to be earth shattering to have value. I agree with you about avoiding "me too" posts, but it's impossible to judge what someone else will find value in.

      Just sayin'...
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      • Profile picture of the author radhika
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        ... Every post doesn't have to be earth shattering to have value. I agree with you about avoiding "me too" posts, but it's impossible to judge what someone else will find value in.
        True ... A post that is routine/worthless to a peson can be a great impact on others.

        It is just how open is the readers mind is ...

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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Long
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        ...or perhaps you undervalue what you have to say. Every post doesn't have to be earth shattering to have value. I agree with you about avoiding "me too" posts, but it's impossible to judge what someone else will find value in.

        Just sayin'...
        Totally agree with you Dennis, especially about undervaluing what I have to say. I guess I possibly try too hard not to just add to the noise. I even have to work hard at putting my own opinions out there on occasion, because it's very rare that I find the opinions of others will sway the work I do day in and day out.

        I figure if the opinions of others do little to positively change my work product, then my opinions aren't going to be all that helpful to others. So I try to stick to the facts when I can.

        Of course, that could also go right back to that undervaluing thing again.
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    • Profile picture of the author ozduc
      Originally Posted by Mike Long View Post


      My take is this: if I'm going to make a post, my goal is to make 90% of them useful enough to earn a "thanks" from someone.

      ~Mike
      Hey Mike,
      You are falling way short of your goal. 134 posts and only 64 thanks that's less than 50%. Better pick your game up a bit
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        One thing about members with a high post count versus new members with a very low post count is that you can view a lot of the posts made by a certain person and then develop your opinion of this person based on some of the actual things they have said in this forum.

        A high post count does not equal instant credibility but it does give you the opportunity to do a little background check on people.
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        • Profile picture of the author GavinLively
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          Originally Posted by adamv View Post

          One thing about members with a high post count versus new members with a very low post count is that you can view a lot of the posts made by a certain person and then develop your opinion of this person based on some of the actual things they have said in this forum.

          A high post count does not equal instant credibility but it does give you the opportunity to do a little background check on people.
          Good point, BUT anyone can fake a good post and NOT have even a shred of any true objective success in their own business..

          Yet, to the less astute, such a person can give the appearence that they might be a credible and objectively sucessful authority on a given topic because they consistenly and compulsively post to forums and sometimes post something that seems to hold some value and resonate...

          All I am saying is to look for true tangible results in reality before you put much credence to the poster regadless if they have 2 posts or 2,000. It may very well be likely that the poster with 2 posts is wildly more successful and hence more credible than the poster with 2,000 posts.

          That's all

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          • Profile picture of the author adamv
            Originally Posted by GavinLively View Post

            Good point, BUT anyone can fake a good post and NOT have even a shred of any true objective success in their own business..

            Yet, to the less astute, such a person can give the appearence that they might be a credible and objectively sucessful authority on a given topic because they consistenly and compulsively post to forums and sometimes post something that seems to hold some value and resonate...

            All I am saying is to look for true tangible results in reality before you put much credence to the poster regadless if they have 2 posts or 2,000. It may very well be likely that the poster with 2 posts is wildly more successful and hence more credible than the poster with 2,000 posts.

            That's all

            Gavin
            I agree that you should be careful about the people you put your faith in but a lot of the people that try to pass themselves off as an authority on a subject by giving out bad information usually get called out pretty quickly by other members.

            And of course I still agree with your main point. Post count alone means nothing. It does make it easier to dig a little deeper though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Long
        Originally Posted by ozduc View Post

        Hey Mike,
        You are falling way short of your goal. 134 posts and only 64 thanks that's less than 50%. Better pick your game up a bit
        65 now. :p

        You're right though! But like Dennis said, you can't always know what others will find valuable. Sometimes I obviously guess wrong.

        And then there's posts like this, that really screw that percentage up...lol! :p
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Here, take a look at this. (Image used for future consistency.)


    Now, "Zeus66" indicates that this person has some interest in Greek mythology, and fancies himself the father of the gods. The 66 has some significance, but is probably not indicative of Zeus and Zeus1 through Zeus65 also being on the forum. It is probably a consistent username that he uses on all forums he joins, which means - while it is not his real name - he wants to be recognised and expects to be known.

    He's kept the default title for his user account, which means he doesn't feel some need to be witty at people. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) He's a War Room Member, which means he's contributed to the forum. His avatar is apparently his real picture, but he's wearing sunglasses, so he's probably a bit shy and insecure. (He either doesn't want you to see his eyes, or he's worried that he might not look cool enough without them.)

    He's been here since July 2008. That's a year and a half; about 600 days. He lives NEAR Dallas, which means he's in a smaller town whose name you wouldn't recognise, but he wants you to have a good idea where it is. He's got 2,000 posts - a little over three a day. He's made 23 blog entries in his profile blog. He's thanked 570 people for their posts, so he's lavish with his praise. He's been thanked in 507 posts - almost as many as he's thanked himself - and an average of 2.4 times per post that gets thanked. He's also on Twitter, YouTube, and Skype.

    At this point, I can read his blog, visit his Twitter feed, watch his YouTube channel, and even add him as a contact on Skype. It's not just post count that matters, it's everything.

    But the only things Zeus didn't put in there himself are the join date and post counts. Everything else could be fake. So when you're evaluating credibility, those are the only things that come from a reliable source.
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