A Really Bad Change by EzineArticles: This Will Affect Everyone's Views... Yet Again!

14 years ago

How is it affecting your article views? Do you mean your CTR? I did notice this around 4 weeks ago but it diapered I guess its back once again.

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acrasial 14 years ago

Originally Posted by deanmoney

How is it affecting your article views? Do you mean your CTR?

When a user reads an article, he/she may normally scroll down and view the most recent article links below each article. But now, he/she would end up looking at the huge box instead, which is distracting.

I'm not sure about you, but a few people do get a lot of their views from the "most viewed category" function, and EZA is also aware of this, which is why the still have that function, and it's also why they tried updating that function as well.
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ryanman

14 years ago

I saw that too...A lot of most recent articles are getting less than normal views. It definitely distracts the user.

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Dexter007

14 years ago

But dont you guys think that Ezines also need to profit from their sites. They have got people sending them articles, and they would. This can be a better step atleast for SEO of the article page.

And regarding links, if you can convince your visitor to click, he is going to click... irrespective of distractions.

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agc

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dexter007

But dont you guys think that Ezines also need to profit from their sites. They have got people sending them articles, and they would. This can be a better step atleast for SEO of the article page.

And regarding links, if you can convince your visitor to click, he is going to click... irrespective of distractions.

Are you kidding me? Ezine displays google ads. They make a killing off of you.

I'd sell my left testicle AND kidney to own that site.

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TheRichJerksNet 14 years ago

Originally Posted by agc

Are you kidding me? Ezine displays google ads. They make a killing off of you.

I'd sell my left --- AND kidney to own that site.

There are some respected Ladies in this thread .. Maybe you could have worded that better ...

Besides its not all glory and vacations on the beach like you think ... Trust me it takes a great deal of work and management to keep up a site the size of EZA...

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TimG

14 years ago

That all depends on a few variables we can control. For example:

1 - If the article is garbage the reader probably won't get to the bottom to see the new addition. Net result - No Issue

2 - If the article resource box is garbage than the reader probably wouldn't have clicked thru the resource link anyway. Net Result - No Issue

3 - If the article resource box is a true call to action box than the reader will pause there and click thru a resource link - Net Result - No issue

Of course, there may be some positive points to this new addition:

1 - It will be easier to have an article rated so we better make sure the content is good.

2 - It will be easier to have the article sent to friends, added to favorites or published.

Personally I love the ability for my readers to post my article on Facebook or Twitter with a simple push of a button.

I understand your concern but this may be a change that could bring us more page views in the long run.

Have some faith in Chris Knight - He does want what's best for his site but at the same time he is trying to help out the authors that publish their content on his site - especially those authors that focus on providing quality content.

Respectfully,
Tim

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ryanman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TimG

That all depends on a few variables we can control. For example:

1 - It will be easier to have an article rated so we better make sure the content is good.

Not all articles are done with SEO purposes...I have seen some real high quality articles on ezines which don't really get many views.

The best thing about ezinearticles is the most recent articles category...Thats what gets every article good views even if it isn't written with proper keyword optimization.

And this box definitely affects it.

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TimG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ryanman

Not all articles are done with SEO purposes...I have seen some real high quality articles on ezines which don't really get many views.

The best thing about ezinearticles is the most recent articles category...Thats what gets every article good views even if it isn't written with proper keyword optimization.

And this box definitely affects it.

You are correct, I've also seen some excellent articles full of quality content that had little to no page views but that's because the writers failed to go the extra step of ensuring their article would rank in the search engines.

We can write quality content for the sake of writing quality content or we can write quality content with some SEO added into the mix so that it actually gets noticed and than does its job of driving traffic..etc.

This is almost similar to how a great salesletter will sell a terrible product but a poor salesletter won't sell a superior product.

A poorly written article that has some SEO love will always outperform a quality article without any SEO flavor to it.

Respectfully,
Tim

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Zeus66

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TimG

You are correct, I've also seen some excellent articles full of quality content that had little to no page views but that's because the writers failed to go the extra step of ensuring their article would rank in the search engines.

We can write quality content for the sake of writing quality content or we can write quality content with some SEO added into the mix so that it actually gets noticed and than does its job of driving traffic..etc.

This is almost similar to how a great salesletter will sell a terrible product but a poor salesletter won't sell a superior product.

A poorly written article that has some SEO love will always outperform a quality article without any SEO flavor to it.

Respectfully,
Tim

This is perhaps the best short explanation I've ever seen by someone who gets article marketing. Please, if you're new to article marketing, pay close attention to anything Tim says about it. You're getting a tremendous education on the subject in this one post, folks.

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Tina Golden

14 years ago

This is exactly why it's a bad move by ezines. Authors who aren't too skilled at SEO will miss out on a lot of views that they would have normally gotten by just submitting it there.

So why is it EZAs responsibility to take care of the authors who are too lazy or misinformed to learn about SEO? They are running a business that just happens to benefit authors but ideally, the reader is the actual consumer so that is who EZA needs to be concerned with the most.

Tina

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Davioli

14 years ago

I don't think the issue has anything to do with quality. The whole discussion is about losing traffic from the "recent articles" section right below the article.

Ezinearticles will probably have a ton of stat scripts that tell them all sorts of numbers. If this does affect their page views.. you can be sure they'll change it back to what it was really fast.

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TimG

14 years ago

I've never personally even looked at the recent article submissions but have focused on the most viewed section so I would agree that there would be some traffic loss due to the new addition.

However, those sections (recently published and most viewed( are short term traffic generators with a shelf life of 60 days at most (for the most viewed). I think this addition could harm the short term traffic generation but most certainly will help the long term traffic generation.

I may be a bit more bias towards the quality issue because at the end of the day quality content is all that counts.

Tim

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TimG

I've never personally even looked at the recent article submissions but have focused on the most viewed section so I would agree that there would be some traffic loss due to the new addition.

However, those sections (recently published and most viewed( are short term traffic generators with a shelf life of 60 days at most (for the most viewed). I think this addition could harm the short term traffic generation but most certainly will help the long term traffic generation.

I may be a bit more bias towards the quality issue because at the end of the day quality content is all that counts.

Tim

Great addition, Tim..

As per usual

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meblogger 14 years ago

Articles online web directory is much better than ezinearticles, try it out once
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- Tina Golden 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by meblogger
  
  Articles online web directory is much better than ezinearticles, try it out once
  
  And you are basing this on...what?:rolleyes:
  
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- opiel 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by meblogger
  
  Articles online web directory is much better than ezinearticles, try it out once
  
  Is it really... much better?
  
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infoshot

14 years ago

I have just begun to advance to article marketing and this thread is very valuable. I had no idea pertaining to the SEO ranks and the views. I was happy just getting published.

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ryanman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by infoshot

I have just begun to advance to article marketing and this thread is very valuable. I had no idea pertaining to the SEO ranks and the views. I was happy just getting published.

This is exactly why it's a bad move by ezines. Authors who aren't too skilled at SEO will miss out on a lot of views that they would have normally gotten by just submitting it there.

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Ryan700

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ryanman

Authors who aren't too skilled at SEO will miss out on a lot of views that they would have normally gotten by just submitting it there.

I disagree. I just clicked on the Twitter button and my Twitter account popped up with a "Reading <Article Title> @ Ezinearticles.com/id#. I could have clicked on update but I didn't. Just saying. A person could promote their own articles just like they are able to promote them with Stumbleupon now. I promote mine manually once in a while. It's good for a dozen or more views with every tweet.
There is a setting already in EZA's that will announce your article on Twitter when it's published.
Caveat though is that every free site has their TOS and accounts could be pulled for stepping over the edge.

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pickthat apple

14 years ago

The alltogether look of the enzine page is less "cosy" than what it was, and possibly the author picture is no more visible (or did I just happen to check the only five without a picture...?), but after reading all those articles, they must know what they are doing...

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acrasial

14 years ago

Originally Posted by pickthat Apple

but after reading all those articles, they must know what they are doing

Oh yes, remember that little time frame when they were letting "derivative content" pass through, and then had to begin a huge crackdown? ... I guess they knew what they were doing back then as well?

Kind of a joke then. I guess at least they are testing now, but couldn't they make that box smaller?

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Doesn't affect me in the least.

If they're reading my article, what the hell do I care if they don't get to
the most recent article part of the page? They ain't my articles anyway.

I don't see what the big deal is.

Oh, and looking at my stats, nothing has changed for me in the least.

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yesacpow

14 years ago

You are very right Steven but I think what the The OP mean is this:

Let's say someone lands on someone else's article. That article is crap Cool?

So they read the article and scroll to the bottom. Now your article is in the most recently submitted article and you have an amazing title. Which means that the reader may just click on your article.

Now that they are on your article, which ofcourse if of high quality- you will then capture them and probably turn them into a customer.

However, with the addition of the box you may not receive that added traffic.

That's what I get from the whole issue. It may not be much extra traffic since your bulk may be from people searching for your keywords but I do think every little counts.

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Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Doesn't affect me in the least.

If they're reading my article, what the hell do I care if they don't get to
the most recent article part of the page? They ain't my articles anyway.

I don't see what the big deal is.

Oh, and looking at my stats, nothing has changed for me in the least.

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Travis Van Slooten

14 years ago

Amen. Leave it to you and Tim the true article marketing experts to bring some sanity to this thread.

Travis

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Doesn't affect me in the least.

If they're reading my article, what the hell do I care if they don't get to
the most recent article part of the page? They ain't my articles anyway.

I don't see what the big deal is.

Oh, and looking at my stats, nothing has changed for me in the least.

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seoguy1

14 years ago

It does give you the option to print the article and email to friends, which not necessarily bad.

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TheRichJerksNet

14 years ago

what else is new ... The article pages are filled with far too many distractions.. But for those that demand to publish your content on EZA .. More power to you ...

James

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TheRichJerksNet

14 years ago

Originally Posted by John McEachern

You know, James, the more I get into this, the more I think I just want to use EZA as just another article directory for a short burst of traffic and another link. So, I understand where you are coming from with your perspective to an extent. What I don't understand is not using EZA at all.

For those who are currently still building their network of sites, it seems like it is still a very good idea to submit articles there. Even when they do build up their network, I don't know why they wouldn't want that boost of traffic and link - especially if, as you have said over and over, it is not difficult to outrank EZA for a keyword phrase.

It's simple John ... I do not associate my business with anything that I question. Many have been told in their own forum by the admin that they must submit their content to EZA first. This is wrong, it is the authors content and they have the right to submit it anyplace they wish, including their own site first.

Besides I have no need for the little traffic...

James

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Barry Unruh

14 years ago

On the flip side, it makes more chance your article could go viral, and start spreading rapidly.

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Hamida Harland

14 years ago

Originally Posted by acrasial

They think this box is useful but its affecting my article views, and yours.

I'd be interested to see some statistics to back this up. It certainly hasn't affected my stats so far anyway.

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

How dare they develop their own portal!!!!

Chris should be ashamed of himself.

On a more serious note:

It's your own damn fault for showing a glorified made for adsense site, too much respect.

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Since they deleted my account rather than show basic respect for my work, I think EZA can go to hell.

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Troy_Phillips 14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Since they deleted my account rather than show basic respect for my work, I think EZA can go to hell.

Don't beat around the bush .... let it all out .
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azland55

14 years ago

Its a pity they don't ask their authors what they would like.

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PCRoger

14 years ago

That's a pity.

I think they forget that we don't post there in order to just help them.

One reason I rarely use Squidoo is because there are just too many distractions.

PCRoger.

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Vanquish 14 years ago

Still averaging 25%+ click through rate with the change so no complaints here.
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  Originally Posted by Vanquish
  
  Still averaging 25%+ click through rate with the change so no complaints here.
  
  That's great, but do you know what the buy % is?
  
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  That's great, but do you know what the buy % is?
  
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Jeremy Morgan

14 years ago

I think for the most part people don't read the articles for fun on their site anyway, most of the people are looking for content for their own sites. I dont know if it will have a big effect.

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