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This would resolve issues with people asking the same questions over and over but I cannot see this happening, unless of course the admins enforce it.

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Kurt

14 years ago

Sorry Harvey, but I disagree.

I hate seeing a 25 paragraph post quoted, then have someone reply to it using 10 words or less.

For long posts, I'd prefer people only quote the parts they are replying to.

But I do wish they would leave the name of the poster on the quote...There's a few Warriors that use snippets and don't leave the name of the person they quote, which is a pain...

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Sorry Harvey, but I disagree.

I hate seeing a 25 paragraph post quoted, then have someone reply to it using 10 words or less.

For long posts, I'd prefer people only quote the parts they are replying to.

But I do wish they would leave the name of the poster on the quote...There's a few Warriors that use snippets and don't leave the name of the person they quote, which is a pain...

Snippets are good. When one wants to comment on a portion of someone's comment, the snippet makes it clear - very clear - what you are referring to, and by leaving the name in (actually using the Quote button, and then deleting any extraneous text - instead of just copying the snippet direct from the post, adding your own quote tags and keeping the persons name off for whatever reason...) people know immediately what you mean, who's comment you are talking about, and the context from which your comment stems.

SCROLLING takes time. Why keep repeating the whole post, especially when you only want to take issue with or agree on a certain portion of it. Presumably if it is inside the same thread, others already read the whole post once - I don't see any good reason for making them scroll through the whole thing again.

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14 years ago

Interesting, that would make a thread like Terry's 60 day experiment a pretty crazy experience.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

Do you find it confusing when someone responds in a thread
and you don't know who or what post they are responding to ?

Therefore my suggestion is that you must quote the WHOLE
of any post that you respond to. Every time.

Ok, I know it's a pain if the first post is 5 screens long
and every successive post has to duplicate it but for
this to work there have to be NO exceptions **

One advantage of course is that you'll be able to read the
same post again and again - for example think how many times
people complain that someone has not fully read the OP post
before jumping in.

** The one exception is that you are not allowed
to try and be funny and fully quote this post.

I believe Admin is reviewing this suggestion right now
and it is about to go live.

So this may be the last post you ever see here at the
forum which will not be quoted in responses.

Harvey

I'm confused. Are you saying to quote all posts but this one?

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drmani

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

I believe Admin is reviewing this suggestion right now
and it is about to go live.

Harvey

Can I quote you on this, Harvey?

Must I?

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xiaophil 14 years ago

Good one, Harvey.

I don't like it either when people quote an entire post just to add their one-liner to the bottom.

Seriously though - I often wondered why threads can't be, well, you know, threaded. Then it would be obvious what post people are responding to because it would always be the one above them in the thread.

With one single linear wall of posts it's easy to get cluttered and bloated with quotes. Doesn't this forum system support threading?

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Paul Hancox

14 years ago

I vote for, "Only quote the RELEVANT parts of a post, the parts that you're responding to".

I think your idea works for short posts, but for mega long ones, the thread is just going to get real messy.

And you can quote me on that.

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14 years ago

Ethical bump...

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

Do you find it confusing when someone responds in a thread
and you don't know who or what post they are responding to ?

Therefore my suggestion is that you must quote the WHOLE
of any post that you respond to. Every time.

Ok, I know it's a pain if the first post is 5 screens long
and every successive post has to duplicate it but for
this to work there have to be NO exceptions **

One advantage of course is that you'll be able to read the
same post again and again - for example think how many times
people complain that someone has not fully read the OP post
before jumping in.

** The one exception is that you are not allowed
to try and be funny and fully quote this post.

I believe Admin is reviewing this suggestion right now
and it is about to go live.

So this may be the last post you ever see here at the
forum which will not be quoted in responses.

Harvey

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Barry Unruh

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

Do you find it confusing when someone responds in a thread
and you don't know who or what post they are responding to ?

Therefore my suggestion is that you must quote the WHOLE
of any post that you respond to. Every time.

Ok, I know it's a pain if the first post is 5 screens long
and every successive post has to duplicate it but for
this to work there have to be NO exceptions **

One advantage of course is that you'll be able to read the
same post again and again - for example think how many times
people complain that someone has not fully read the OP post
before jumping in.

** The one exception is that you are not allowed
to try and be funny and fully quote this post.

I believe Admin is reviewing this suggestion right now
and it is about to go live.

So this may be the last post you ever see here at the
forum which will not be quoted in responses.

Harvey

Testing 1 2 3, Did I get this quote thing right? I need to practice this before Admin makes it mandatory.

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Michael Oksa

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MichaelAppleton

This would resolve issues with people asking the same questions over and over but I cannot see this happening, unless of course the admins enforce it.

Originally Posted by Kurt

Sorry Harvey, but I disagree.

I hate seeing a 25 paragraph post quoted, then have someone reply to it using 10 words or less.

For long posts, I'd prefer people only quote the parts they are replying to.

But I do wish they would leave the name of the poster on the quote...There's a few Warriors that use snippets and don't leave the name of the person they quote, which is a pain...

Originally Posted by lowjo

Interesting, that would make a thread like Terry's 60 day experiment a pretty crazy experience.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

But at least that reduces the probability of a named individual coming after you shouting "misquotation".

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

I'm confused. Are you saying to quote all posts but this one?

Originally Posted by drmani

Can I quote you on this, Harvey?

Must I?

Dr.Mani

P.S. - You should be on Twitter. There are so MANY
"improvements" you can bring on there!

Originally Posted by Paul Hancox

I vote for, "Only quote the RELEVANT parts of a post, the parts that you're responding to".

I think your idea works for short posts, but for mega long ones, the thread is just going to get real messy.

And you can quote me on that.

Originally Posted by xiaophil

Good one, Harvey.

I don't like it either when people quote an entire post just to add their one-liner to the bottom.

Seriously though - I often wondered why threads can't be, well, you know, threaded. Then it would be obvious what post people are responding to because it would always be the one above them in the thread.

With one single linear wall of posts it's easy to get cluttered and bloated with quotes. Doesn't this forum system support threading?

Cheers,

Phil

Originally Posted by Killer Joe

Ethical bump...

Originally Posted by KansasDragon

Testing 1 2 3, Did I get this quote thing right? I need to practice this before Admin makes it mandatory.

Originally Posted by Bewley

It is so easy to do this! If people took the time to figure out how the '[ quote ]' tags worked and then used the preview button to see if they got it right.

Perhaps a small tutorial about this as a sticky?

Adrian

And if you read the entire thread before commenting, then you should use the multiquote feature. That way everybody will know you took the time to read the entire thread.

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Bewley

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

And if you read the entire thread before commenting, then you should use the multiquote feature. That way everybody will know you took the time to read the entire thread.

~M~

Now you are just showing off

Adrian

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Steven Wagenheim

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

And if you read the entire thread before commenting, then you should use the multiquote feature. That way everybody will know you took the time to read the entire thread.

~M~

I'm trying to use the multi quote feature but when I click on it, nothing
happens.

Must be my crappy browser.

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JayXtreme 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I'm trying to use the multi quote feature but when I click on it, nothing
happens.

Must be my crappy browser.

More likely it is an operator malfunction
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R Hagel 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I'm trying to use the multi quote feature but when I click on it, nothing
happens.

Must be my crappy browser.

Did you click "post reply" after you hit the multi-quote button?

(You first click "multi quote" on all the posts you'd like to quote, then click "post reply.")
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Bewley

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

Do you find it confusing when someone responds in a thread
and you don't know who or what post they are responding to ?

It is so easy to do this! If people took the time to figure out how the '[quote]' tags worked and then used the preview button to see if they got it right.

Perhaps a small tutorial about this as a sticky?

Adrian

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butters

14 years ago

Why would you quote a whole post, I ain't even going to quote yours :p... Just quote a snippet of the post so the person knows your referring to them, then just say, I am referring to the whole post, not just the quoted part. It's simple, I see monster posts here and quoting 15 paragraphs constantly will make it annoying to read... Especially if the person says "I agree with you on this"

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Michael Oksa 14 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

Why would you quote a...monster...constantly...annoying...the person...

Sometimes quoting snippets can change the overall meaning of the post being commented on.

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  But Harvey - wouldn't that confuse things further?
  
  After all, unless you post the entire huge post (just below where it was posted in the first place) how would anyone know what the 5 words you wrote below it were referring to?
  
  Isn't that the perfect way to avoid posting "one liners"???:rolleyes:
  
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  quoting snippets can change the overall meaning
  
  Are you stating this as fact?
  
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

"I agree with you on this"

I agree with you on this.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

I agree with you on this.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Sorry Harvey, but I disagree.

I hate seeing a 25 paragraph post quoted, then have someone reply to it using 10 words or less.

For long posts, I'd prefer people only quote the parts they are replying to.

But I do wish they would leave the name of the poster on the quote...There's a few Warriors that use snippets and don't leave the name of the person they quote, which is a pain...

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

I agree with you on this.

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

I agree with you on this.

I agree with you on this

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JayXtreme 14 years ago

Originally Posted by valerieSONORA

I agree with you on this

I agree with you on this, too.
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Originally Posted by valerieSONORA

I agree with you on this

I'm not so sure I agree with your agreeing.

Anyone else agree?
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- valerieSONORA 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Paul Hancox
  
  I'm not so sure I agree with your agreeing.
  
  Anyone else agree?
  
  I don't agree with you're not being sure if I should agree or not.
  
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Mr. Enthusiastic 14 years ago

Originally Posted by lowjo

Interesting

Yes it is.

Originally Posted by xiaophil

Good one, Harvey.

I liked it too.

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

you'll figure it out eventually.

And you can quote me on that.

That's such a good point. And I just did.

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

I agree with you on this.

So do I. Great thread!

British humour

Or it could just be Harvey.

P.S. Shouldn't this thread be in the Off Topic forum?
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valerieSONORA

14 years ago

Is this the kind of thing Harvey.Segal calls British humour?

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Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago

Originally Posted by valerieSONORA

Is this the kind of thing Harvey.Segal calls British humour?

No Valerie...it's called Harvey Segal humor.

Sometimes...even I don't get it.
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valerieSONORA

14 years ago

I've seen this before. :rolleyes: He makes an initial post, doesn't post again, then watches everyone discuss, fight, argue, joke, whatever. Then someone comes along and says it's British humour. I don't get it either :p Is British humour and Harvey humor the same thing?

Oh forgot to quote but too lazy to go back and start over to quote.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by valerieSONORA

I've seen this before. :rolleyes: He makes an initial post, doesn't post again, then watches everyone discuss, fight, argue, joke, whatever. Then someone comes along and says it's British humour. I don't get it either :p Is British humour and Harvey humor the same thing?

Oh forgot to quote but too lazy to go back and start over to quote.

Yeah, British humour is 100% times better! I think that there won't be THAT much argument here. I cannot see it working. But then again, I dont think even the OP could.

That's british humour

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mubarak Waseem

Yeah, British humour is 100% times better! I think that there won't be THAT much argument here. I cannot see it working. But then again, I dont think even the OP could.

That's british humour

Wow! I didn't know you could quote yourself!

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kswr123 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mubarak Waseem

Wow! I didn't know you could quote yourself!

Then again - that's kinda obvious
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by R Hagel

Did you click "post reply" after you hit the multi-quote button?

(You first click "multi quote" on all the posts you'd like to quote, then click "post reply.")

Originally Posted by Mubarak Waseem

Yeah, British humour is 100% times better! I think that there won't be THAT much argument here. I cannot see it working. But then again, I dont think even the OP could.

That's british humour

Originally Posted by MostlyHarmless

Snippets are good. When one wants to comment on a portion of someone's comment, the snippet makes it clear - very clear - what you are referring to, and by leaving the name in (actually using the Quote button, and then deleting any extraneous text - instead of just copying the snippet direct from the post, adding your own quote tags and keeping the persons name off for whatever reason...) people know immediately what you mean, who's comment you are talking about, and the context from which your comment stems.

SCROLLING takes time. Why keep repeating the whole post, especially when you only want to take issue with or agree on a certain portion of it. Presumably if it is inside the same thread, others already read the whole post once - I don't see any good reason for making them scroll through the whole thing again.

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Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Thanks Becky...that's why I hate technology...I never know what to do
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

Do you find it confusing when someone responds in a thread
and you don't know who or what post they are responding to ?

Therefore my suggestion is that you must quote the WHOLE
of any post that you respond to. Every time.

Ok, I know it's a pain if the first post is 5 screens long
and every successive post has to duplicate it but for
this to work there have to be NO exceptions **

One advantage of course is that you'll be able to read the
same post again and again - for example think how many times
people complain that someone has not fully read the OP post
before jumping in.

** The one exception is that you are not allowed
to try and be funny and fully quote this post.

I believe Admin is reviewing this suggestion right now
and it is about to go live.

So this may be the last post you ever see here at the
forum which will not be quoted in responses.

Harvey

No thanks.

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14 years ago

If I agree with everyone should I quote everyone in full?

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Originally Posted by valerieSONORA

I agree with you on this

Ooo.. that's funny.. I agree with you on this

Originally Posted by valerieSONORA

If I agree with everyone should I quote everyone in full?

Yes.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by valerieSONORA

If I agree with everyone should I quote everyone in full?

well...

Originally Posted by Paul Hancox

I vote for, "Only quote the RELEVANT parts of a post, the parts that you're responding to".

I think your idea works for short posts, but for mega long ones, the thread is just going to get real messy.

And you can quote me on that.

Originally Posted by Kurt

Sorry Harvey, but I disagree.

I hate seeing a 25 paragraph post quoted, then have someone reply to it using 10 words or less.

For long posts, I'd prefer people only quote the parts they are replying to.

But I do wish they would leave the name of the poster on the quote...There's a few Warriors that use snippets and don't leave the name of the person they quote, which is a pain...

Originally Posted by MichaelAppleton

This would resolve issues with people asking the same questions over and over but I cannot see this happening, unless of course the admins enforce it.

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

Do you find it confusing when someone responds in a thread
and you don't know who or what post they are responding to ?

Therefore my suggestion is that you must quote the WHOLE
of any post that you respond to. Every time.

Ok, I know it's a pain if the first post is 5 screens long
and every successive post has to duplicate it but for
this to work there have to be NO exceptions **

One advantage of course is that you'll be able to read the
same post again and again - for example think how many times
people complain that someone has not fully read the OP post
before jumping in.

** The one exception is that you are not allowed
to try and be funny and fully quote this post.

I believe Admin is reviewing this suggestion right now
and it is about to go live.

So this may be the last post you ever see here at the
forum which will not be quoted in responses.

Harvey

yep...

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

Do you find it confusing when someone responds in a thread
and you don't know who or what post they are responding to ?

Therefore my suggestion is that you must quote the WHOLE
of any post that you respond to. Every time.

Harvey

If you can't follow the discussion, why not just use vBulletins threaded view?

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