Do You Have 1 Subscriber Yet?

Tyson Faulkner · 02-20-2010, 05:14 PM

I was browsing through the WSO's recently, and it seems that it is just flooded with posts that say "Make $1000 in a day," or "In just 2 weeks your could be making $1000 every day on autopilot," or really anything else that sounds a little ludicrous.

Now I don't doubt that someone, somewhere has made over $1000 in one day when they were totally wet behind the ears, but the results are not typical and I think a lot of newbies get led off the deep end by such claims. Even worse is that I haven't seen one WSO like that with a testimonial that shows someone who bought the product actually made what was claimed is "easy."

Don't get me wrong, I know people still make these products because they sell well, the old magic push button riches is very tempting for lots of people. I've even bought a few myself. One of the big problems though, is it seems some of these WSO's promote the whole "fake it til you make it" theory that is just ridiculous.

I don't know about you guys, but if I am paying money to learn something, I would like to learn from someone who has actually done what I want to learn. I recently bought a WSO that suggests you go get some PLR, put your name on it, then post it up in the WSO's with a big catchy title like "This Will Make Your $500 EVERY DAY."

I don't make $500 per day in IM, so if I posted that in the WSO section, I would be LYING, not marketing. At least that's how I see it.

Anyway... I have recently made the decision to keep my business as simple as possible so I can actually work towards one goal at a time. And if you're new to IM, I would suggest you do the same.

When you start browsing through the WSO's or anywhere else that has a ton of offers and good marketing, it's tempting to start buying stuff with promises of quick riches, but don't! The more you buy and the more you read, the more confused you will get and it will seem like making money on the internet is harder than it really is. That's pretty much my life story as far as IM goes.

Plus you must view this is as a business if you really want to be successful. Making a living on the internet is not a get rich quick and get out scheme (at least it shouldn't be). Whether you're in the IM niche or some other niche, you should aim to create a business (whether you're selling info products, software, mentoring) that really gives value and helps people solve their problems.

Then once you know what you're going to do, focus on building your client base, just like a brick and mortar business would (with IM tactics of course). In my opinion, the best way to make a living online is to start building a list of loyal readers/customers that like you and want more information from you.

So start by getting 1 subscriber into your aweber account. Create something of value that you can give away, then put it in front of as many people as possible. If you make it easy for your subscribers to share, then you'll grow even faster.

Do this before anything else! Don't worry about your upsells, backend, one time offers, continuity programs, coaching programs, audio, video extras etc. Start by getting that first subscriber, and work up from there. Having the biggest and most planned out marketing funnel in history will do nothing if you have no one to buy it!

Once you start building your list up, it will become easier to make money by promoting affiliate offers, JVing with others, launching your new products to your list, and everything else can fall into place later.

I've been off and on in IM for a few years, and I don't make a ton of money like the gurus, but I've been building a subscriber list and it is starting to pay off. I am writing this to myself as much as anyone else that cares to read it. I struggle greatly with getting distracted and losing focus. So today I am writing out my main goals to focus only on activities that will build my business, without getting distracted by all the "too good to be true" offers out there.

Here are my 4 things I'm going to focus on and a good place for you to start:
1. Create an extremely valuable info product that will help my customers solve their problems (audio, video, pdf, whatever)
2. Create a squeeze page that gives it away in exchange for an email address
3. Drive a TON of traffic to that one page ONLY (I get easily distracted

)
4. Write an autoresponder series that provides value, doesn't stop being sent out for months, and promotes the BEST programs in my niche.

I'm not sure if this will help anyone, but I think posting it publicly will motivate me to stick to my guns and build a solid business this year.

How about you?

InternetMarketingIQ · 02-20-2010, 05:28 PM

You mean the "claims" are not true?

Dennis Gaskill · 02-20-2010, 05:41 PM

Nice post, Tyson. This may blow a few newbies away, but you just don't need all that "marketing" stuff to make money online. Yes, it can help, but I was earning my full-time living online before I ever found this forum or any other marketing forum, and before I ever bought a single marketing product.

Shocking!

How did I do it? I built a content site and just gave people what they told me they wanted. How's that for a simple business model? Build a content site around something you enjoy and then listen to your visitors, and then create products they want and sell them the products they want. It really is that easy from a "big picture" perspective.

It wasn't even my own idea to start my own mailing list. My visitors encouraged me to. I listened. While I have gone on to learn about Internet Marketing, the fundamentals of my business haven't changed much. I listen to what people say they want, and sell them products to help them achieve their goals. That's business in its simplest form.

Tina Golden · 02-20-2010, 05:47 PM

Quote:

I recently bought a WSO that suggests you go get some PLR, put your name on it, then post it up in the WSO's with a big catchy title like "This Will Make Your $500 EVERY DAY."

Since that is completely against the rules of the WSO section, I hope you at least posted in the thread or reported this WSO to the Help Desk. As long as buyers don't complain, these people get away with what they are doing. We are the only ones who can see changes happen to that section but unless we're willing to give negative feedback, things will stay the same.

Tina

Patrick Mader · 02-20-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ

You mean the "claims" are not true?

Sorry but many things are not true there. Sometimes it´s right that they make this amounts but it will not work for others... But others success

Cheers,

Patrick

CesarGalano · 02-20-2010, 06:05 PM

Quote:

I don't make $500 per day in IM, so if I posted that in the WSO section, I would be LYING, not marketing. At least that's how I see it.

That's totally true...Many i.marketers out there claim that they're are making thousands a month when the truth it's different.'that definetely would be lying :P

DamianK · 02-20-2010, 06:43 PM

I completely agree. All these businesses all make it sound like you join and boom you're just rich. Even one of the ones I'm involved in. My upline tells me to use the capture page and video that they provide. There is NO way I'm doing that.
Anyone their video DOES get me will be the types that think they join and two weeks later they should have a few grand. The OP had it right, it's a step building process, but by taking it slower, you're actually growing faster. If you build the right way you could, within just a few months, have a very prosperous business with steady leads, recruits, sales, affiliates, the whole 9.
I'm still learning but determined.

EDIT: And the proof of that is that my link in my signature doesn't even work. Ugh.

Tyson Faulkner · 02-20-2010, 07:15 PM

Hey Tina,

I guess I should brush up on my WSO rules, I wasn't real sure how strict they are with things like that. It's good to know though, that they keep a tight leash. I'll be sure to check it out and see if the WSO is still going, and report if it is.

-Tyson

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Since that is completely against the rules of the WSO section, I hope you at least posted in the thread or reported this WSO to the Help Desk. As long as buyers don't complain, these people get away with what they are doing. We are the only ones who can see changes happen to that section but unless we're willing to give negative feedback, things will stay the same.

Tina

Get Inspired Today · 02-20-2010, 07:20 PM

There is so much bs out there. Thats why when you see these threads where people ask who makes good money on this stuff, there are a lot less people compared to the number of people who sell you on how to get rich.

Its a bit pathetic, but in the anonymous internet world liars can lie fairly well!

UnDenIeD · 02-20-2010, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ

You mean the "claims" are not true?

I'll assume you're being sarcastic

.

The WSO is indeed full of lots of products. Some work, some do not. Such is life. But what I find quite interesting is the people that are buying the products and are not satisfied with what they get. Why don't they call out the vendor's bs? Could it be virtual social pressure?

On a side note. I'm thinking of developing a wso as well.

jdavis_01 · 02-20-2010, 08:20 PM

Man you hit me right between the eyes. Good, good post!

Tyson Faulkner · 02-21-2010, 09:45 AM

I hope it helped motivate you in the right direction Jim. Thanks

Quote:

There is so much bs out there. Thats why when you see these threads where people ask who makes good money on this stuff, there are a lot less people compared to the number of people who sell you on how to get rich.

Its a bit pathetic, but in the anonymous internet world liars can lie fairly well!

I totally agree with this, the only honest way to make a living online (in my opinion) is to let people know who you are, and build up your name without lying to trick people into thinking you're some guru when you're not.

I don't have a problem with newbies breaking into the IM niche, if they are honest and create a product that addresses a problem IM'ers have. But if you try to break into it by claiming income that you don't have just to attract some eyeballs, that's definitely not OK and very misleading.

I guess that's one of the reasons this forum is so valuable, you can see who people are before you buy from them (most of the time).

tweetzon · 02-21-2010, 09:57 AM

does lying actually help you in the end? just wondering..

Tyson Faulkner · 02-21-2010, 10:18 AM

It seems to me, that most people are short-sighted. They think "Oh if I can make some quick cash, then I'll do it the right way." I think that's why many people try to stay anonymous and lie about their income to make some money.

But the problem is they aren't building a solid business that would make less money in the near future and more money in the farther future. And if anyone does find out who they are/what they are doing, they'll lose their reputation, which is your most important asset in business imo.

So I would say lying doesn't help anything in the end, but you will succeed to upset some people on the way.

02-20-2010, 05:14 PM	#1
Tyson Faulkner Tyson-Faulkner.com War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Idaho, USA. Posts: 510 Thanks: 71 Thanked 91 Times in 54 Posts Social Networking	Do You Have 1 Subscriber Yet? I was browsing through the WSO's recently, and it seems that it is just flooded with posts that say "Make $1000 in a day," or "In just 2 weeks your could be making $1000 every day on autopilot," or really anything else that sounds a little ludicrous. Now I don't doubt that someone, somewhere has made over $1000 in one day when they were totally wet behind the ears, but the results are not typical and I think a lot of newbies get led off the deep end by such claims. Even worse is that I haven't seen one WSO like that with a testimonial that shows someone who bought the product actually made what was claimed is "easy." Don't get me wrong, I know people still make these products because they sell well, the old magic push button riches is very tempting for lots of people. I've even bought a few myself. One of the big problems though, is it seems some of these WSO's promote the whole "fake it til you make it" theory that is just ridiculous. I don't know about you guys, but if I am paying money to learn something, I would like to learn from someone who has actually done what I want to learn. I recently bought a WSO that suggests you go get some PLR, put your name on it, then post it up in the WSO's with a big catchy title like "This Will Make Your $500 EVERY DAY." I don't make $500 per day in IM, so if I posted that in the WSO section, I would be LYING, not marketing. At least that's how I see it. Anyway... I have recently made the decision to keep my business as simple as possible so I can actually work towards one goal at a time. And if you're new to IM, I would suggest you do the same. When you start browsing through the WSO's or anywhere else that has a ton of offers and good marketing, it's tempting to start buying stuff with promises of quick riches, but don't! The more you buy and the more you read, the more confused you will get and it will seem like making money on the internet is harder than it really is. That's pretty much my life story as far as IM goes. Plus you must view this is as a business if you really want to be successful. Making a living on the internet is not a get rich quick and get out scheme (at least it shouldn't be). Whether you're in the IM niche or some other niche, you should aim to create a business (whether you're selling info products, software, mentoring) that really gives value and helps people solve their problems. Then once you know what you're going to do, focus on building your client base, just like a brick and mortar business would (with IM tactics of course). In my opinion, the best way to make a living online is to start building a list of loyal readers/customers that like you and want more information from you. So start by getting 1 subscriber into your aweber account. Create something of value that you can give away, then put it in front of as many people as possible. If you make it easy for your subscribers to share, then you'll grow even faster. Do this before anything else! Don't worry about your upsells, backend, one time offers, continuity programs, coaching programs, audio, video extras etc. Start by getting that first subscriber, and work up from there. Having the biggest and most planned out marketing funnel in history will do nothing if you have no one to buy it! Once you start building your list up, it will become easier to make money by promoting affiliate offers, JVing with others, launching your new products to your list, and everything else can fall into place later. I've been off and on in IM for a few years, and I don't make a ton of money like the gurus, but I've been building a subscriber list and it is starting to pay off. I am writing this to myself as much as anyone else that cares to read it. I struggle greatly with getting distracted and losing focus. So today I am writing out my main goals to focus only on activities that will build my business, without getting distracted by all the "too good to be true" offers out there. Here are my 4 things I'm going to focus on and a good place for you to start: 1. Create an extremely valuable info product that will help my customers solve their problems (audio, video, pdf, whatever) 2. Create a squeeze page that gives it away in exchange for an email address 3. Drive a TON of traffic to that one page ONLY (I get easily distracted ) 4. Write an autoresponder series that provides value, doesn't stop being sent out for months, and promotes the BEST programs in my niche. I'm not sure if this will help anyone, but I think posting it publicly will motivate me to stick to my guns and build a solid business this year. How about you?
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02-20-2010, 05:28 PM	#2
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Dennis Gaskill Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wisconsin, USA. Posts: 4,113 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,405 Thanked 3,422 Times in 1,592 Posts Social Networking	Re: Do You Have 1 Subscriber Yet? Nice post, Tyson. This may blow a few newbies away, but you just don't need all that "marketing" stuff to make money online. Yes, it can help, but I was earning my full-time living online before I ever found this forum or any other marketing forum, and before I ever bought a single marketing product. Shocking! How did I do it? I built a content site and just gave people what they told me they wanted. How's that for a simple business model? Build a content site around something you enjoy and then listen to your visitors, and then create products they want and sell them the products they want. It really is that easy from a "big picture" perspective. It wasn't even my own idea to start my own mailing list. My visitors encouraged me to. I listened. While I have gone on to learn about Internet Marketing, the fundamentals of my business haven't changed much. I listen to what people say they want, and sell them products to help them achieve their goals. That's business in its simplest form.
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02-20-2010, 06:43 PM	#7
DamianK Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New York Posts: 58 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: Do You Have 1 Subscriber Yet? I completely agree. All these businesses all make it sound like you join and boom you're just rich. Even one of the ones I'm involved in. My upline tells me to use the capture page and video that they provide. There is NO way I'm doing that. Anyone their video DOES get me will be the types that think they join and two weeks later they should have a few grand. The OP had it right, it's a step building process, but by taking it slower, you're actually growing faster. If you build the right way you could, within just a few months, have a very prosperous business with steady leads, recruits, sales, affiliates, the whole 9. I'm still learning but determined. EDIT: And the proof of that is that my link in my signature doesn't even work. Ugh.

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02-21-2010, 10:18 AM	#14
Tyson Faulkner Tyson-Faulkner.com War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Idaho, USA. Posts: 510 Thanks: 71 Thanked 91 Times in 54 Posts Social Networking	Re: Do You Have 1 Subscriber Yet? It seems to me, that most people are short-sighted. They think "Oh if I can make some quick cash, then I'll do it the right way." I think that's why many people try to stay anonymous and lie about their income to make some money. But the problem is they aren't building a solid business that would make less money in the near future and more money in the farther future. And if anyone does find out who they are/what they are doing, they'll lose their reputation, which is your most important asset in business imo. So I would say lying doesn't help anything in the end, but you will succeed to upset some people on the way.
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