by mr2020
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It amazes me, what people post here sometimes.

Look, if you can't bother spelling at least "sum uf ur wurds correctly", or "figgure out what you are trying to ask here", then DON'T POST.

This is a quick rant, but it's also a plea for new warriors to just pause.

Take a moment.

Type up your request for help in a way that makes sense.

Check your spellin and make sure that you are soundin a wee bit intelligence.

Maybe, you'll notice, the folks who get help, are those who take the time to post something INTELLIGENT, with decent spelling, and enough detail so we can help you.

Rant over,

Mr Twenty Twenty
#people #stupid
  • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
    Not everybody here is from Pittsburgh.

    A lot of folks are not even from English speaking countries.

    And some of us are even rednecks...

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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Perhaps Mrs. Wombat had descendants?

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      • Profile picture of the author s.chas
        Looks like you didn't take the time to carefully prepare your post either.

        Just sayin...
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        • Profile picture of the author Raydal
          Originally Posted by s.chas View Post

          Looks like you didn't take the time to carefully prepare your post either.

          Just sayin...
          I think he was using satire ... at least I hope so.

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      Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post


      And some of us are even rednecks...

      KJ
      That is funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author Emersion
    Originally Posted by mr2020 View Post

    Check your spellin and make sure that you are soundin a wee bit intelligence.
    Sound intelligence? Don't you want to sound intelligent?!
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  • Profile picture of the author RebeccaL
    Google toolbar has a little icon with a green tick and an "ABC" - that's the spell check button. Why people can't take a second to click that before posting makes me really wonder....
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
    As another member pointed out, a vast majority of this websites traffic is from non-english speaking countries.

    @ folks still railing on these guys, How many languages can you speak? Fluently enough to converse?

    If its more than 1, then by all means; continue to bash.


    On another note, I hate the poor grammar so common now days to; Ie: "So wat R u up 2?".

    So I ignore it. Theirs a difference in that and simply not being an exceptional speaker of another language.


    You have to remember this is a public forum, not a schoolhouse or university. As long as a person can clearly and concisely convey the meaning of what their trying to say, what point does dissecting it have? I mean, You dont have to read it, hit the back button if you dont like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by Profit-smart View Post

      <snip>


      On another note, I to hate poor grammar.
      That's horrible. What did she do to you?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        On another note, I to hate poor grammar.
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        That's horrible. What did she do to you?
        Now that's funny!
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    Wlc 2 the txt msg era.
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  • Profile picture of the author binjai15
    Pardon the mispells dude, not everyone here got the same access to good English education at school.
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    • Profile picture of the author alextsui
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Tolerance brother...and consider ourselves lucky as hell that the dominant language online seems to be English. Just imagine if it were Greek?

      Forums are about sharing and discussing ideas. As long as someone is able to communicate what they're thinking well enough to get their point across, we should leave it at that - the real value stems from their thoughts, not their use of English.
      Well put, Big Mike. Internet marketing is an amazing way to earn income by anyone throughout the world, even if one is not perfectly conversant with the intricacies of the English language.

      I'm from Malaysia. I use 2 Chinese dialects and 3 major languages (including English) in the course of daily activities. Not to boast but just to show that people in other countries usually have to deal with more than one language.

      English is not my native language yet most of the time I can easily spot obvious mistakes such as using "your" instead of "you're" among native English speakers. However, I don't really mind as long as I can understand what the speaker is trying to say. It's all about communication.

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Mike,
      As long as someone is able to communicate what they're thinking well enough to get their point across, we should leave it at that
      Exactly.

      We get a fair number of people here who literally can't write well enough in English to make themselves understood - at all. They get deleted. I hate doing that, but it's necessary. They're receiving no benefit from the time they spend here, and the confusion takes away from everyone else and creates a wrong impression of the place.

      For the rest... Spot on. If you get their point, leave the grammar-copping out. Even if you CAN communicate clearly in multiple languages. And even if the poster's primary language is English.

      There are exceptions, of course. If someone starts grammar-copping, they're fair game for it themselves. The fun part is that the grammar cops always make mistakes that can be turned around on them.

      Also, if you claim to be a professional writer and mangle your syntax so badly that the panda shoots the waiter, you deserve correction.

      As an aside: American school systems use a poorly-conceived and ineffective (phonetic) method for teaching spelling. It is so bad that a large percentage of students will inevitably fail to learn anything beyond the basics. This does NOT mean those people are stupid.


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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Alex,
        English is not my native language yet most of the time I can easily spot obvious mistakes such as using "your" instead of "you're" among native English speakers.
        Those mistakes by people for whom English is the primary language are made by people who were taught to spell by sounding out words, rather than by visual means.

        While those mistakes can be distracting for visual spellers, they don't mean much at all. Most of the people to whom I've explained the source of the problem get over the irritation with it quickly. The ones who don't... Well, wombats abound.


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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        the panda shoots the waiter
        I see what you did there.

        Eats shoots and leaves.
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        • Profile picture of the author alextsui
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          I see what you did there.

          Eats shoots and leaves.
          Ha Ha! Thanks for explaining the joke. I didn't get it at first.

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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Caliban,
          I see what you did there.
          It's an inside joke for writers.
          Eats shoots and leaves.
          Which means something very different than, "Eats, shoots and leaves."

          That simple example sums up syntax. As a rule, I've found that better-trained thinkers are much more disturbed by improper use of commas than by other punctuation errors or mistakes in spelling. They're looking at the construction of the idea, rather than the presentation.


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          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            It's an inside joke for writers.
            It's a very well-known book on grammar. I have it... in a box... somewhere...

            Which means something very different than, "Eats, shoots and leaves."
            Which in turn is far less acceptable to me than "Eats, shoots, and leaves."
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            • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
              Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

              It's a very well-known book on grammar. I have it... in a box... somewhere...



              Which in turn is far less acceptable to me than "Eats, shoots, and leaves."
              Good on! Someone else who was brought up on Manhattan Style Sheets. I detest, and refuse to write, something like "Eats, shoots and leaves". That second comma IS required IMO. But then, Myers is a redneck.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        There are exceptions, of course. If someone starts grammar-copping, they're fair game for it themselves. The fun part is that the grammar cops always make mistakes that can be turned around on them.

        Also, if you claim to be a professional writer and mangle your syntax so badly that the panda shoots the waiter, you deserve correction.

        As an aside: American school systems use a poorly-conceived and ineffective (phonetic) method for teaching spelling. It is so bad that a large percentage of students will inevitably fail to learn anything beyond the basics. This does NOT mean those people are stupid.


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        Well put. Some things aren't so clear anyway. As for the idea of teaching, germany apparently talked a bit about simplifying some things, and I think some in the US did also, but they gave up. The most telling bit was that they were ill conceived and tried relatively recently.

        Still, on the flip side, the average french person is apparently a "grammar cop". I can understand that given how language has changed so much. How many people got arested and said "I didn't do nothing!"! LOGICALLY, and according to English rules, that means they did something. Maybe some confessed figuring they could later recant.

        And YEAH, I would have trouble sounding out greek at the moment, let alone understanding most of the words. I won't even TRY chinese.

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    • Profile picture of the author ozduc
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Tolerance brother...and consider ourselves lucky as hell that the dominant language online seems to be English. Just imagine if it were Greek?
      When I look at HTML and PHP code, it all looks Greek to me
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    • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Tolerance brother...and consider ourselves lucky as hell that the dominant language online seems to be English. Just imagine if it were Greek?
      Δεν εχο προβλιμα με ελλενικα καθολου.

      (Which, I am sure you all knew, translates as 'I do not have a problem with Greek at all')

      I think, for the benefit of some of the above posters, the errors in spelling and grammar in Mr2020's original post was something close to irony.
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    • Profile picture of the author Aj Wilson
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Tolerance brother...and consider ourselves lucky as hell that the dominant language online seems to be English. Just imagine if it were Greek?

      Forums are about sharing and discussing ideas. As long as someone is able to communicate what they're thinking well enough to get their point across, we should leave it at that - the real value stems from their thoughts, not their use of English.
      Big Mike has spoken...
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      • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
        I find this entire discussion very interesting.

        What is one of the biggest topics discussed on this forum? OUTSOURCING!

        Just because someone cannot spell, or have proper grammar is ZERO barrier to making money on the internet.

        If they understand the principles, and can manage a team who does the writing, submissions, backlinking, and other routine tasks, they could be highly successful.

        They might even be great presenters in videos, but have horrible writing skills, and can motivate people to buy in other ways.

        Who is going to succeed? The person who works hard, manages well, and takes massive action with bad English skills; or the person who has great English skills, and their only action is to post questions on the forum? I have a feeling the one taking action is going to have a big bank account, the other one is going to have a big dream list.

        It is easier to read well structured sentences, and properly spelled words. I just doubt it is a very good guide to how valuable the person's contribution to the forum and to life.

        Back in my early days of working, I had a boss who was a horrific speller, who had almost no grammar skills, but he could communicate verbally in an almost magical way, he was a great motivator and manager. His skills were in high demand in the industry. His English skills never improved, but his new personal secretary at his new position at another company had excellent skills. The point...Any shortcoming can be overcome, if the person is motivated, and leverages their existing skills, and fills in the gaps with assistance.
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  • Profile picture of the author tweetzon
    gonna agree with Alex , just like my country english is not the first language. Just like how the american spell favorite and the british spell it favourite and so on lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author sodette1
    To me...

    A good thought presented well enough to read and benefit from, is much better than a worthless comment spelled correctly with proper grammar, that just wastes my time.
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    .....lolwut?
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    wut is the prolem here? peeple speak what they know and try hard to take part in the comunitee

    Seriously though. I have seen a few posts like this in the past month and....well... who are you to put a restriction on a person who can or cannot speak/write English properly. Have some grace for people the flip side to your rant is -don't read them
    I would much rather have someone post a question for help and try and explain the best way they can, then have someone else post about stupid people. Aside from the fact your own post is grammatically incorrect that is complete irony and downright funny.
    Let people be man don't read their post if it bothers you but they have just as much right to post as they do to breathe, they are after all human beings
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
      Originally Posted by emaildeliverypro View Post

      Writing wrong English doesn't break policies of this forum I am fine as long as moderators are
      I don't believe it's policy the OP was referring to, but the fact that anyone who doesn't state their case in correct English is not going to be taken as seriously. I'm afraid that, as tolerant as I try to be, poorly written posts (in any language) tend to subconsciously lower my image of the writer's intelligence.
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      • Profile picture of the author Big Al
        Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

        I don't believe it's policy the OP was referring to, but the fact that anyone who doesn't state their case in correct English is not going to be taken as seriously. I'm afraid that, as tolerant as I try to be, poorly written posts (in any language) tend to subconsciously lower my image of the writer's intelligence.
        Yep ... and I believe that part of this is because members of the forum appreciate the value of copywriting. Even short posts are a way to practise how to put your words together and your thoughts across.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
          Originally Posted by Big Al View Post

          Yep ... and I believe that part of this is because members of the forum appreciate the value of copywriting. Even short posts are a way to practise how to put your words together and your thoughts across.
          Good point Al. I hope more Warriors use this as a guide. It never hurts to polish your language - as a marketer it is vital.
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          • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
            Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

            It never hurts to polish your language -
            Is certainly different than "It never hurts to Polish your language".

            Which appearently would tick off the OP.

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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    A wealthy friend of mine, probably liquid in the $80 million range, can't spell or use English grammar to save his life. His emails read like they were written by a 4 year old.

    So the point being... it's not a barrier to success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Todd S
    Arocdnicg to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pcale. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit pobelrm. Tihs is buseace the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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    • Profile picture of the author sodette1
      Originally Posted by Todd S View Post

      Arocdnicg to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pcale. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit pobelrm. Tihs is buseace the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
      Dang, I was looking for that last night... illustrates the point, uhm, "fluently."

      I do agree with Kevin R. though, now that I think about it.

      If you are a copywriter or article writer especially, you might really want to brush up on your spelling and grammar before posting because it does reflect on your ability to deliver results.

      When I write copy for clients I often forget to do the spell checker and it's funny... no matter how great the copy is, they'll focus on the poor spelling and grammar.

      In fact, here's a little secret for you - for some of my students and clients that need to feel better about themselves, I even leave a few words and phrases incorrect just so they can "catch me" - I've found it makes them happy to contribute and gives them a sense of adding value to the project.

      Of course, you have to be very careful not to do this for the wrong client or to get carried away. Refer back to point #1 above...

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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        That second comma IS required IMO.
        Mrs Wombat would have insisted on it, just as she would have required a period after the "Mrs" at the beginning of this sentence. Later teachers, with more current (at the time) training, declared it optional. I have never noticed either debatable practice impairing the message's clarity. Therefore, I don't care.

        May I suggest a re-reading of the document available from The Wombat Report - Marketing Lessons from Unlikely Places, gentlemen?


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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          This thread has just put a finger on one of the big reasons I've never liked interview transcripts.

          Most of them are done verbatim, poor grammar and all. In addition, the transcriber seldom gets the commas in the right places, so gleaning the real information from the text becomes hard work.

          I sometimes irritate my wife when I read the newspaper and start grousing about incompetent editors and proofreaders. At the small town level, at least, the word processor and spell checker are doing their part to stamp out literacy.

          I will admit to occasional flare-ups from an old wombat bite, but I do try to cut forum posters a lot more slack on tiny errors as long as I can understand what they are trying to say.

          And as I was telling a Spanish acquaintance, his English is much better than my
          Spanish. I know just enough to get drunk, get fed, and get punched in the mouth...
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    • Profile picture of the author trevor75
      Originally Posted by Todd S View Post

      Arocdnicg to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pcale. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit pobelrm. Tihs is buseace the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.


      LoL!!! That is absolutely brilliant, and so true, I actually understood every word you were saying. I agree with what everybody else has been saying. Be more tolerant, we all make mistakes in our spelling, its just human. Don't be so angry. Life is waaaaaaaaay too short.
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  • Profile picture of the author Poglia
    English is not my native language, but I agree. I hate when people don't even know the difference between "then" and "than", "your" and "you're", "their", "there", "they're", and so on. Most of them are native English speakers too.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Poglia View Post

      English is not my native language, but I agree. I hate when people don't even know the difference between "then" and "than", "your" and "you're", "their", "there", "they're", and so on. Most of them are native English speakers too.
      Don't be too sure about that last part!
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Razer Rage View Post

        In my experience, the people who use chatspeak and ZERO capitalization and punctuation are lazy native-English speakers.

        It's very easy to spot a non-native English speaker. They have plenty of grammar and (some) spelling errors. But unlike their lazy, native-English speaking counterparts, they're actually making an effort to type correctly.

        I have yet to meet a non-native English speaker who used chatspeak excessively.

        That's one reason why I hate chatspeak so much. There's simply no excuse for it (except in the rare case of a non-native English speaker). Is it really so hard to take about half a second to type two extra letters so you can form a whole word?

        Just goes to show that today's generation doesn't really care about looking intelligent...assuming teenagers EVER cared about looking intelligent.

        But that is my point. Some want to deal with "leet", or use some terms that are not really english but part of a culture that may have simply started in an english speaking country. HECK, I guess you can call all the Jewish people that speak Yiddish native german speakers. It makes as much sense.

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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Razer Rage View Post

        In my experience, the people who use chatspeak and ZERO capitalization and punctuation are lazy native-English speakers.

        It's very easy to spot a non-native English speaker. They have plenty of grammar and (some) spelling errors. But unlike their lazy, native-English speaking counterparts, they're actually making an effort to type correctly.

        I have yet to meet a non-native English speaker who used chatspeak excessively.

        That's one reason why I hate chatspeak so much. There's simply no excuse for it (except in the rare case of a non-native English speaker). Is it really so hard to take about half a second to type two extra letters so you can form a whole word?

        Just goes to show that today's generation doesn't really care about looking intelligent...assuming teenagers EVER cared about looking intelligent.

        Teenagers and others of chatspeak gen ARE just as foreign as non-native English speakers in my book. They speak a language all their own.

        Actually, I rarely read their posts and rarely respond to them. Their posts don't interest me because they are so unreadable. I also don't read the ones that don't use paragraphs and everything is just run on text. Too much bother for me to read if it's too much bother for them to present in a cleaner, more readable way.

        Isn't that the best way to deal with posts that irritate you in some way? Simply ignore them.
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    I am still trying to figure out why when the thread title appears to be an invitation to 'stupid people', I click it.








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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by mr2020 View Post

    It amazes me, what people post here sometimes.

    Look, if you can't bother spelling at least "sum uf ur wurds correctly", or "figgure out what you are trying to ask here", then DON'T POST.
    It amazes me that people think they have a right to tell people to NOT post. Did Allen sell this forum to you?

    I didn't think so.

    This is an international community and not everyone is a native English speaker and writer, and some that are, aren't that good at it, but they are free to post anyway and you are free to not read it if it offends you.

    Originally Posted by mr2020 View Post

    Check your spellin and make sure that you are soundin a wee bit intelligence.
    This is the pot calling the kettle black. It is SPELLING and SOUNDING and INTELLIGENT. Two misspelled words and one incorrect use of grammar in one sentence and you are calling other people stupid?

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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Zimbrowski
      Hey Mate,
      Just be on the place of the guys who are trying to get help, and are still learning a new language...thats a challenge..is not simple as it seems, tolerance and respect are important to have good human relations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thaddaeus T. Hogg
    I shore nuff agree with yew Mr twenty twenty! Some folk be a talkin as if they never gots outta thut thar secund grade. Iffin yew aint educated thru thut thar fifth, yew shudnt even be a postin here... I dun had me a fifth this mornin so Im well qualified... a fifth a 'shine... elixr of the gods!

    Whut in tarnation is a wombat? We aint gots nuthin like thut round the Holler!
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Whut in tarnation is a wombat? We aint gots nuthin like thut round the Holler!
      Wah shore yew dew, Thaddaeus! I'ss kahnda lahk a big ol' woodchuck, on'y kewter.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1life1fire
    LMAO Hillbilly! What the hell is a "wombat" .. !?!?? LOL I luv it!!

    What's even more interesting is, posts in forums with horrible grammar, run-on sentences with no punctuation and spelling errors ...

    And in their signature is the link to their blog ... if someone has horrible grammar and spelling errors here... I hope they prepare their blogs better!

    I know I don't have 100% grammar in my posts, and maybe mr2020 is even talking to me and I just don't even know it! I don't have the google bar spell checker... (by the way, I failed "hoked on fonics" ... LOL)

    Dan
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Dan, Paul Myers posted the link to his famous (infamous?) report up above, but here it is again if you missed it:

      The Wombat Report - Marketing Lessons from Unlikely Places

      Well worth the read...
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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Well anyway, this thread is kinda pointless so a riddle for you all!!! If you get it right you get a fake E chocolate chip cookie!!!

        So, What can travel around the world and always sits in the corner? Nice and simple one for you all and I guarantee at least one person will Google this.

        To the OP, I tried my best to make sure all spelling and grammar was correct if not, shame...
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          What can travel around the world and always sits in the corner?
          Hint: I keep mine in my wallet.
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          • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Hint: I keep mine in my wallet.
            How do you get a condom to sit in the corner?

            Inquiring minds want to know...:rolleyes:

            KJ

            :p
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            • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
              Originally Posted by butters View Post

              What can travel around the world and always sits in the corner?.
              Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

              Hint: I keep mine in my wallet.
              Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

              How do you get a condom to sit in the corner?
              A condom is an odd place to put a stamp - and I sure wouldn't want to get one in the mail!



              Bill
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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              KJ,
              How do you get a condom to sit in the corner?
              Umm... That's easy, I suppose. I generally keep those in my left jacket pocket, though, when they're not in use. And in the nightstand.

              Don't YOU keep your stamps in your wallet?


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          • Profile picture of the author Elmer Hurlstone
            My first language is the Southern dialectical variety of American English. As I was born in Alabama and raised in semi-rural Florida it was natural to me. Although I must say I was a major disappointment to my British parents.

            With a great deal of work I learned to speak standard American English. You know, like the guy on the six o'clock news?

            I've been unable to master a foreign language. I admire and envy anyone
            with a facility for languages. Years ago I took a year and a half of Spanish. Too bad it didn't take.

            More important to me than spelling and absolutely correct grammar is the
            physical formatting of a post-assuming it's well thought out and coherently presented.

            Please, please, please place a space between sentences and break your text into paragraphs.

            If it hurts me to read it, I ain't gonna. And I suspect I'm not alone.

            Elmer

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            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

            Hint: I keep mine in my wallet.
            A prophylactic?
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            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
              Originally Posted by Elmer Hurlstone View Post

              A prophylactic?
              Does EVERYONE figure it is a condom? A condom may only travel with the person. NO WONDER why we have an over population problem.

              Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    Huked on fonicks wurked fer me!
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  • Profile picture of the author MyLinkClub
    I've never understood grammar police on forums... I think it's mostly about the content versus the typing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richnana
    I am amazed that you would write a post like that. it sounds like the rantings of an "ugly american. Why do we presume to think that our language is superior to other languages. This is the Internet, not an English classroom. Most nation require that their students learn to speak more than their native language. Our students can barely speak their own language.

    Some of the big dogs in Internet Marketing have obvious mistakes in their million dollar sales letters. I recently had to speak with the person who sponsors my product that he needed to clean up the mispelled words on the web page. We can figure out what our fellow warriors need if we take the time to have a little tolerance.

    They are struggling with this Internet thingy. Then they also have to cope with a language that makes little sense in terms of usage and spelling because our language is a ******* language - It is a combination of a little of everything.- Just like our country. Remember we are a melting pot.
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    Who made u da boss?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Razer Rage View Post

      Just goes to show that today's generation doesn't really care about looking intelligent...assuming teenagers EVER cared about looking intelligent.
      I can't speak for today's generation, but as I recall from my own high school days, looking intelligent could actually be detrimental.

      Ask any smart kid who went through school labeled as a nerd, geek, spaz, brainiac, etc., etc.

      Or watch any of the teen comedy movies. The kids with the brains are always portrayed as outsiders, losers and freaks.

      At that age, physical attractiveness and athletic prowess are far more important (if you want to get you some) than intelligence. And with hormone levels higher than IQ's, gettin' some is an obsession.

      Chatspeak and textspeak may indeed be a foreign language, just like Gregg shorthand was for the steno pool of days gone by. I'm not even sure using it in places where it has no advantages is laziness. I'd say more like habit.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    It is kind of strange how intelligence is portrayed in movies, especially considering that successful screenwriters are usually highly intelligent. However, it boils down to what would appeal to the target audience, and it could be that decision makers in the film industry may not have the highest estimation of the masses. Surprise, surprise. If you think about it, the insult is not really aimed at "nerds" and "geeks" but towards the audience.
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  • Profile picture of the author jweby
    This is the new world of the texting era. As long as the words and the thought are there, it should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author valen42
    Would possibly help to have spell-checker functionality on the quick reply message area. If it's there...I can't find it.

    What is a wombat?
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    • Profile picture of the author Thaddaeus T. Hogg
      I generally keep those in my left jacket pocket, though, when they're not in use.
      Whew weee! I shore am beholden yew added thut thar last part Mr. Myers! Yew dadgum shore be more'n a man than I am iffin it wud reach thut fer!

      What is a wombat?
      Valen42, Mr. Myers dun splained thut to me... yew see, it is sorta like a woodchuk, only bein kewter!

      I can't speak for today's generation, but as I recall from my own high school days, looking intelligent could actually be detrimental.
      I be a knowin right whar yew be a comin from John... I been a havin thut thar problem all my dadburn life!

      Chatspeak and textspeak may indeed be a foreign language, just like Gregg shorthand was for the steno pool of days gone by. I'm not even sure using it in places where it has no advantages is laziness. I'd say more like habit.
      I ain't gots one itty bitty clue whut yew is sayin thar but it shore dew sound rite purty!

      My first language is the Southern dialectical variety of American English.
      Mr. Hurlstone, did yew ust tew be a librarian at one time in yore life? Yew keep speakin like thut thar an they'll plumb be a kickin yew outta the Holler!
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