"I'll Paypal you, you send it back via Western Union."

14 years ago

I get these all the time. what a very very bad character. i hope they had bad karma for life!

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Paul Myers 14 years ago

I get these all the time. what a very very bad character. i hope they had bad karma for life!

The problem is that it's started to show up here in the forum. We've had a few openly ask in offtopic, and apparently it's spread out from there to other channels on the board.

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yommys01

14 years ago

Not always a scam in all cases. I am one of those who have had to do such a thing and meant no evil.

I have made over $2k ( never expected it ) with my WSOs and there is really no way to withdraw it here as a Nigerian.

I have spent a good amount of it on my own business but need it as cash. Some do it to scam others but not all - at least not me.

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tweetzon

14 years ago

thanks for the info paul! i got lots people emailing me for that

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prime777

14 years ago

Wow! Thank you. I can relate to this personally. I had one guy from India hound me on skype to help him get $49.00 out of his Solid Trust Pay account because for whatever reason he he claimed that he could not access it himself.

He literally begged me for the better part of half an hour telling me how his mother was sick and that was his only access to immediate money to help her get medicines.

Somehow even though a part of me felt sympathetic to him about his sick and dying mother I just knew deep in my gut it was a scam. So as I always do I went with my gut and I give him all the reasons why I could not help him even though I felt so sorry to hear about his mother.

After that I just blocked him from my Skype.

This is a good post by the OP and people should take it seriously

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troy23

14 years ago

Whenever I hear Western Union I turn off. It has scam written all over it and usually originates in African countries I notice. The other day someone asked me to source and send him a laptop.

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Mitchymoo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

This one is old. Someone asks if they can send you money via some channel, and then you send all/part of it back via Western Union.

Sometimes it's an allegedly certified check or money orders, sometimes it's sent via Paypal, whatever. The trick is the turnaround, with you sending them money via Western Union.

Do not do this.

Sometimes it's an obvious scam, sometimes the explanation seems rational and believable. An example of the latter would be, "I can't get a Paypal account in my country. I have money in one that someone else has access to, but can't withdraw it." Tell them to get that other someone to do the transfer. I have never - not once - heard of this turnaround being anything but an outright scam.

Here's how it works: The money hits your account, and is credited. In the case of a bank check or money order, they'll usually let you access the funds before it actually clears. You send the money, and then find out that the instruments were fake. You sent the scammer cash, which you can't get back, and now you owe the bank whatever the amount of the deposit was.

With Paypal, it's going to be a claim of fraudulent use of the credit card.

Do not do it. For anyone. For any reason.

Paul

Another issue with this is that this kind of process is widely used in money laundering.

This is because if a criminal places illegal funds into your account and you then transfer "clean" funds back to them from your own account, the original funds have then been "laundered".

Another thing is that the person transferring the money may not even know the original source of the funds. They therefore may be asking you in good faith to accept the funds and transfer them on, not realising that they themselves are part of a money laundering chain.

I know this because I worked in a bank for a long time.

For more information on money laundering click here

Hope this helps guys!

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

Yommy,

I have made over $2k ( never expected it ) with my WSOs and there is really no way to withdraw it here as a Nigerian.

I have spent a good amount of it on my own business but need it as cash. Some do it to scam others but not all - at least not me.

I was of the rather clear impression that you had that account associated with an address in Benin. Seems to me that accessing it from within Nigeria would draw their attention. Are you using a proxy to access your account?

Have it withdrawn to Benin. Or have a check sent to the address you used for the account.

As I said, I would not recommend that anyone do this. Not for any person, for any reason. Along with the fact that I've never seen this be anything but a scam, there's the problem that Jacob mentioned of it possibly being treated as money laundering.

Paul

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yommys01

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Yommy,I was of the rather clear impression that you had that account associated with an address in Benin. Seems to me that accessing it from within Nigeria would draw their attention. Are you using a proxy to access your account?

Have it withdrawn to Benin. Or have a check sent to the address you used for the account.

As I said, I would not recommend that anyone do this. Not for any person, for any reason. Along with the fact that I've never seen this be anything but a scam, there's the problem that Jacob mentioned of it possibly being treated as money laundering.

Paul

Haha, Ask the guy at the support desk, I have to travel to Benin anytime I need to send money to people.

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talfighel

14 years ago

Paul,

Thank you for sharing this info here. I am sure that it will save a lot of people from going through this ugly scam.

Tal

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petelta

14 years ago

When I was in desperate need of money and searching for work on craigslist about a year ago. There was a posting about picking up a doctors wife and kid from the airport. I quickly replied trying to get some quick cash so I could afford food that week.

The guy seemed legit. He replied back without an automated message. The English was good and he actually threw in some humor.

The next email is when he told me that he was sending me an excessive check, 3 times the amount I was agreed about getting paid. I was supposed to deposit the check then send back the rest to him via Western Union.

This immediately gave me the red flag and I thought 99% sure it was a scam. I was in pretty desperate times though and I had to at least see if it was real. I sent him back an email saying why don't I just cash the check and I can give the extra money to the wife and kids personally instead of sending the money. Of course, I got no reply and that was the end of that.

These scammers are disgusting. It sickens me to see these people feed off the desperate.

I still don't understand why people don't know by now a billionaire prince isn't trying to escape his rebellious country and give you his fortune though. They must still be getting results somewhere if they keep sending them.

Travis

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Cardsearch

14 years ago

I had a summer home for rent on Craig's list and this happened to me twice. (I didn't fall for it) It is absolutely a scam. My scammers were from this country. What irritates me is the banks or cops won't even try to stop it.