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Newbies Here's my $10000 advice

by Arlin Audrain
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This is just my opinion about internet marketing for newbies. The choice is yours.
Actually, $10000 would be much less than what I've spent if I put a price on my time.

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line. If you are a newbie, you want the shortest route between where you are now and success.

Trial and error is a winding path at best. The market is always changing , so quite often you'll find that by the time you get something figured out on your own, you may be chasing something that is already quite saturated and difficult to compete in.

Even here on the Forum, you will see WSO's that present a new or unique approach, and you'll see two or three hundred replies and "buys". I've bought several of these products at this stage of exposure, and when I go to implement them, I see evidence of other marketers there ahead of me. One thing about internet marketing...it's a highly competitive business.

I wasted lots of years learning to play golf through trial and error. One good teacher would have saved ten years of frustration and thousands of dollars.

I wasted two years teaching myself internet marketing... and thousands of dollars on get rich schemes. The price of a paid teacher would have been cheap.

Now let me clarify. There are lots of good products about internet marketing. There are thousands of schemes. The trick is...you'll be battle scarred by the time you're capable of knowing the difference between good products and bad.

Conclusion: Stay with the Warrior forum...mostly good folks and products. Pay attention to the comment sections below the products before you buy. Lots of good questions asked by knowing warriors.
Get a mentor. There are some really savvy warriors here and that is where I'd start looking for a mentor. If I had it to do all over again, I'd jump at the opportunity of working with a good mentor.

P.S. If you decide to go on your own...visit Warrior Forum daily and learn everything you can. I wish you well.
#advice #newbies
  • Profile picture of the author samish
    I agree with you, warriorforum is the best one.

    One of the problem I've encountered during these years is, it is very hard to find a mentor. If he is successful, then getting reply email from him is impossible. The other way is to pay a a high price. A guy I bought a PLR ebook from him seems to know what he is doing. The response was, $2195 and join my coaching course. Another guy sold a pretty famous software which I don't want to mention the name, says, I've no time.

    It is hard to find someone that is willing to help out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      While I certainly agree with your points, and even suggest many of them
      myself, when you say "get a mentor"...easier said than done.

      1. First there is the cost aspect. The tried and proven mentors worth their
      salt are not cheap...by any definition of the word. Some people simply can't
      afford one...so that option is out unless they happen to get lucky as in...

      a. Get somebody willing to work with them for nothing (not impossible but
      unlikely)

      b. Get somebody just starting out who is good. Problem there is how do you
      know? You don't.

      2. Then there is the "finding" aspect. Many Internet marketers and
      business people who are really successful are spending most of their
      time working on their business and don't have the time to mentor...at any
      cost.

      Sure, get a mentor if you can. But don't wait around for one or you could
      be waiting an eternity...especially if you have a limited budget.

      Just my 2 cents.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nicola Haxby
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        While I certainly agree with your points, and even suggest many of them
        myself, when you say "get a mentor"...easier said than done.

        1. First there is the cost aspect. The tried and proven mentors worth their
        salt are not cheap...by any definition of the word. Some people simply can't
        afford one...so that option is out unless they happen to get lucky as in...

        a. Get somebody willing to work with them for nothing (not impossible but
        unlikely)

        b. Get somebody just starting out who is good. Problem there is how do you
        know? You don't.

        2. Then there is the "finding" aspect. Many Internet marketers and
        business people who are really successful are spending most of their
        time working on their business and don't have the time to mentor...at any
        cost.

        Sure, get a mentor if you can. But don't wait around for one or you could
        be waiting an eternity...especially if you have a limited budget.

        Just my 2 cents.
        Totally agree Steven,

        Those that have the time don't have the money/success and those with the money/success don't have the time.

        Hang around this forum, choose your marketer carefully - there are some fantastic, quality and innovative marketers on here.

        Follow the one you choose. If they are worth their while they will give you all the missing pieces of the jigsaw in their blog or site content.

        The War Room is a minefield of information!

        Good luck,

        Nicola
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        • Profile picture of the author butters
          Originally Posted by Nicola Haxby View Post

          Totally agree Steven,

          Those that have the time don't have the money/success and those with the money/success don't have the time.
          Plenty of mentors out there who are earning very good incomes and they have the time...
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Originally Posted by butters View Post

            Plenty of mentors out there who are earning very good incomes and they have the time...
            Sure, many do.

            How many have the money to afford them?
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            • Profile picture of the author butters
              Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

              Sure, many do.

              How many have the money to afford them?
              That wasn't what I was referring to... But sure, they are expensive or they are free, all depends if the marketer wants some money or wants to make a marketer.
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              • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                Originally Posted by butters View Post

                That wasn't what I was referring to... But sure, they are expensive or they are free, all depends if the marketer wants some money or wants to make a marketer.
                Well, we're obviously both misunderstanding each other. I don't know what
                your point is but mine is simple.

                Many good mentors, qualified to be a mentor, are either very expensive or
                don't actually make the time to mentor others...for any amount of money.

                But please...if you know any 7 figure a year earners who will take a student
                on for free out of the goodness of their heart, please let me know.

                I have plenty of people who will be more than happy to make use of their
                kind and generous offer.
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                • Profile picture of the author butters
                  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                  Well, we're obviously both misunderstanding each other. I don't know what
                  your point is but mine is simple.

                  Many good mentors, qualified to be a mentor, are either very expensive or
                  don't actually make the time to mentor others...for any amount of money.

                  But please...if you know any 7 figure a year earners who will take a student
                  on for free out of the goodness of their heart, please let me know.

                  I have plenty of people who will be more than happy to make use of their
                  kind and generous offer.
                  Hehe, yeah, I guess we are miss understanding each other I was referring to the post I quoted .

                  I do know of a few well paid people who I was fortunate enough to meet and they had chosen people to mentor for free because they wanted to create a marketer and I am sure they get the bragging rights of it to.

                  I do agree though, most mentors charge insane fees, well, insane to me right now . If I knew any 7 figure taking on people for free, I would be jumping at them .
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        • Profile picture of the author Lilach
          Interesting post guys.

          Whilst I agree (of course I would as I' a mentor myself lol). I certainly don't work for free and in my experience the best mentor's don't.

          I would make sure you take the time to find a good sponsor (if that is the route you are going down) who is contactable and as honest as possible.

          If you can't get hold of them then steer well clear. Too often I am approached by others within my opportunity who can't get hold of their "mentor"/sponsor and are completely stuck, frustrated and desperately struggling.

          If budget is a problem then take the time to go on forums like these and LEARN. Seriously don't be lazy. Take a week out and literally sit down with a note pad and pen/pc and make notes. Action what people are saying. There is a wealth of knowledge on here. Use it.

          Those that are not proactive and disciplined with their time will fail.

          Lilach
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          • Profile picture of the author DJM587
            Originally Posted by Lilach View Post

            Interesting post guys.

            Whilst I agree (of course I would as I' a mentor myself lol). I certainly don't work for free and in my experience the best mentor's don't.

            I would make sure you take the time to find a good sponsor (if that is the route you are going down) who is contactable and as honest as possible.

            If you can't get hold of them then steer well clear. Too often I am approached by others within my opportunity who can't get hold of their "mentor"/sponsor and are completely stuck, frustrated and desperately struggling.

            If budget is a problem then take the time to go on forums like these and LEARN. Seriously don't be lazy. Take a week out and literally sit down with a note pad and pen/pc and make notes. Action what people are saying. There is a wealth of knowledge on here. Use it.

            Those that are not proactive and disciplined with their time will fail.

            Lilach
            Couldnt agree more. Though it helps to have a mentor, I had one once who was almost TOO helpful. They coache me step by step with FTPing some stuff to a site I owned and after the process I had no recollection on how i did what I ha just did. I think that people really take advantage of help sometimes. The great thing about the internet is that on these very servers are almost every bit of information you need to be successful in this field of WORK. People forget that these posts go so far back that youll never get to the end.

            The age of googling is mainly to blame. Where us humans expect immediate answers to anything we are questioning. If this weren't INTERNET marketing and just regular marketing and this was 1950, youd have to find out the answers by flipping every page of every book. But its not THANK GOD and the answers are here so I would say to some nebs (as I consider myself one) to go ahead and keep clicking back in the threads.

            But be careful with info overload. Once you know the basics just jump into the waters and test test test. Real numbers are the only ones youll learn from anyways.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raygun
    I agree 100% with what everything that has been said on here. I cannot believe the difference in my output once I got a coach/mentor. The biggest advantage is that you can learn from other peoples mistakes. As I have said earlier, you can get so much valuable information on here, make sure you are at least saving it and archiving it for later.

    Guys like Steven have been there and done that, when they talk, I listen. Here is to another productive day!
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  • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
    Originally Posted by Arlin Audrain View Post

    I wasted two years teaching myself internet marketing... and thousands of dollars on get rich schemes. The price of a paid teacher would have been cheap.
    Arlin,

    If you think a paid teacher is cheap, wait till you see what's available in the War Room.

    $37 is a steal.

    KJ
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  • Profile picture of the author RastaJones
    I'm new to this forum...but it's good advice....I'd use the thank you button, but like i said...noob here lol
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  • Profile picture of the author amandafrei
    Yeah,
    The biggest problem I have with finding a mentor is that I don't know anyone in my country that is good with Internet Marketing. And not only that, but is also not expensive. There are some guru that charge up to $10k for 15 minutes. I would have to find someone that would be my friend and willing to teach me for free. That is way harder.
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  • Profile picture of the author Arlin Audrain
    I agree with Steven that finding mentoring can be a pricey...however,I'm looking back from the $total and I could have afforded a pretty good cash outlay for mentoring; and I still would have been where I am now cheaper and much sooner. The main problem was not knowing legit from non.
    There is a form of mentoring that is affordable for most. There are marketers who have excellent approaches to marketing who, along with their product supply liberal coaching and help. I was involved with one just recently from this forum who answered every questions promptly and critiqued my process all the way through until success. Very affordable.

    Anyway, I still say get mentoring if you can. I can sit back and point out all the downside of mentoring ...cost etc. But most successful people are disciples of successful people.

    Still, if you can't find affordable mentoring...like Steven said, "Go for it anyway."
    I wish you well.
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