Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-03-2010, 01:21 PM   #1
aka Avenuegirl
War Room Member
 
Jill Carpenter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Right where I want to be...
Posts: 5,423
Blog Entries: 23
Thanks: 1,337
Thanked 1,872 Times in 1,079 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Jill Carpenter
Default Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

I just found candy to steal from the baby.

I was going to initially just set up a free site for an affiliate promotion, and then I realized I could be sitting on something big if I decided to flip down the road.

the dot com is gone. Not a big issue - it's a parked page and not ranking.

This term gets roughly 15,000 searches a month, and there are only 1,160 competing pages in quotes - in which the #1 position has less than 20 backlinks.

It is a geographically centered term.

So, here is an example of what I can get:

(we'll pretend it is texas and cows )

cowstx.net .org, .info, etc - everything but the com

or I can go cows-tx.com

I can rank the info for a measly .89 cents.

I don't know that that dash is going to really be worth it on the dot com as type in traffic will not be happening with a dash (I don't think)

So, I'm thinking to just get the info and rank it - but if I decided to flip I'm curious if those who buy flip sites are turned off by the infos?

If it's ranking and making money, is this the most important thing?

Jill Carpenter is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 01:32 PM   #2
Banned
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Nigeria
Posts: 1,440
Thanks: 59
Thanked 164 Times in 74 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via MSN to yommys01 Send a message via Yahoo to yommys01
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

Forget dot info domain names. They are always priced cheap. Go for dot come, just add something at the end. e.g cowstxhub.com, cowstxmastery.com, cowstxempire.com, cowstx101.com e.t.c.
yommys01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 01:45 PM   #3
LMC
520+ sites and counting
War Room Member
 
LMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brooklyn, New York
Posts: 1,550
Blog Entries: 16
Thanks: 312
Thanked 1,318 Times in 303 Posts
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to LMC
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

Extension does matter.

.com is obviously the best for branding purposes.

However, traffic and potential can override the extension.

I would recommend to go with the .com, in the end, with the traffic and potential it would sell for more.

I've never purchased anything but .com, .net and sometimes .org



NYC is my home.
LMC is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 01:46 PM   #4
Banned
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Port Harcourt, Nigeria
Posts: 1,623
Thanks: 503
Thanked 411 Times in 271 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Yahoo to King Shiloh Send a message via Skype™ to King Shiloh
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

avenuegirl,

Please permit me to say that Yommy has paid his dues as far as flipping of websites is concerned; just listen to him and it shall be well with you.

To me, I hate anything that is not .com domain because I discovered in my little experience that people naturally conduct searches on search engines around .com domains. For example, a college student searching for health terms may just enters healthterms.com in the web address or Google search tool because he already thinks that everything on the internet is all about .com.

So, buyers of flipped websites would naturally price .com site higher than any other site extension because of its popularity.
King Shiloh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 01:52 PM   #5
aka Avenuegirl
War Room Member
 
Jill Carpenter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Right where I want to be...
Posts: 5,423
Blog Entries: 23
Thanks: 1,337
Thanked 1,872 Times in 1,079 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Jill Carpenter
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

Yes, but the dot com is not available unless I put a dash.

And I highly doubt anyone is going to do a type in with the dash - see where I'm going?

You're saying as a buyer you would not buy a site developed on a .info - even if it was making hundreds a month?

Jill Carpenter is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 01:55 PM   #6
LMC
520+ sites and counting
War Room Member
 
LMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brooklyn, New York
Posts: 1,550
Blog Entries: 16
Thanks: 312
Thanked 1,318 Times in 303 Posts
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to LMC
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

avenue,

No. Obviously someone would buy it.

It's the matter of perceived value. the .com is known, perceived higher.

In the end results are what matters, the extension will effect the sale by a small percentage if there are results.

go with the latter, the .net or .org

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Generally if the .com is just parked, after my website is earning I will purchase the .com from the owner. This is always an option

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

But the entire Envato group built 350,000 members on a .net so I don't see the difference besides perceived value.

NYC is my home.
LMC is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 01:56 PM   #7
Trading Whiz
War Room Member
 
JEL0221's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 335
Thanks: 99
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

Quote:
Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post
I just found candy to steal from the baby.

I was going to initially just set up a free site for an affiliate promotion, and then I realized I could be sitting on something big if I decided to flip down the road.

the dot com is gone. Not a big issue - it's a parked page and not ranking.

This term gets roughly 15,000 searches a month, and there are only 1,160 competing pages in quotes - in which the #1 position has less than 20 backlinks.

It is a geographically centered term.

So, here is an example of what I can get:

(we'll pretend it is texas and cows )

cowstx.net .org, .info, etc - everything but the com

or I can go cows-tx.com

I can rank the info for a measly .89 cents.

I don't know that that dash is going to really be worth it on the dot com as type in traffic will not be happening with a dash (I don't think)

So, I'm thinking to just get the info and rank it - but if I decided to flip I'm curious if those who buy flip sites are turned off by the infos?

If it's ranking and making money, is this the most important thing?
How are you able to find out how many backlinks another site has?

...this might be a pretty basic question but I just realized I never knew how to find this info.

Future Options Trading, a free subscription on trading the commodity markets.
JEL0221 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 01:59 PM   #8
Banned
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Port Harcourt, Nigeria
Posts: 1,623
Thanks: 503
Thanked 411 Times in 271 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Yahoo to King Shiloh Send a message via Skype™ to King Shiloh
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

Quote:
Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post
Yes, but the dot com is not available unless I put a dash.

And I highly doubt anyone is going to do a type in with the dash - see where I'm going?

You're saying as a buyer you would not buy a site developed on a .info - even if it was making hundreds a month?
I think we have two kinds of buyers: Resellers and End-users. An end-user that knows that the .info site is making hundreds of dollars a month may go for the site but a reseller will definitely be skeptical because he's afraid of the unknown, which is "Am I Really Sure That Someone Will Buy This Site?"

Just my thought.
King Shiloh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 02:44 PM   #9
aka Avenuegirl
War Room Member
 
Jill Carpenter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Right where I want to be...
Posts: 5,423
Blog Entries: 23
Thanks: 1,337
Thanked 1,872 Times in 1,079 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Jill Carpenter
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEL0221 View Post
How are you able to find out how many backlinks another site has?

...this might be a pretty basic question but I just realized I never knew how to find this info.
You've got roughly 46 backlinks on your site - 1 is without the "www"

Backlinks Checker Tool - Backlink Watch


Well, I grabbed the net.

Normally I wouldn't care, but this is the first domain I've purchased with a possible flipping future in mind.

Then again, if I get over 10,000 visitors a month for doing diddly I may have to keep it.

This is just for a couple of affiliate products and initially was supposed to be set up on a free site - but when I saw those search results and lack of competition I couldn't resist.

Thanks all

Jill Carpenter is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2010, 02:49 PM   #10
The Dragon has awoken.
War Room Member
 
Pragun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New Delhi, India
Posts: 252
Thanks: 53
Thanked 39 Times in 30 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Pragun
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

My two cents,

If you add a word or two to the end, google might treat that as the main keyword. So, you should try and add an alphabet to the beginning instead.

Something like eCowsAndTexas.com

That way, your keyword's intact !

Personal SEO Coach. Motivational Speaker. Awesome Dude!
If I may be of any help, please feel free to contact me. I'd love to hear from you!

Pragun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 01:16 AM   #11
Banned
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Nigeria
Posts: 1,440
Thanks: 59
Thanked 164 Times in 74 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via MSN to yommys01 Send a message via Yahoo to yommys01
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

Quote:
Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post
You're saying as a buyer you would not buy a site developed on a .info - even if it was making hundreds a month?
I can buy dot info domain names as a buyer who is buying for keeps but I don't want to be a seller of such domain names.

This is because the value of dot info domain names is not always high. But that does not mean it will not sell if it has some revenue and organic traffic.
yommys01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 03:28 AM   #12
Active Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Israel
Posts: 35
Thanks: 77
Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Yahoo to Amir Rimer Send a message via Skype™ to Amir Rimer
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

Hi,

After flipping many websites online I can say that the 'dot' com extenstion is the best by far (not with hyphens).

Also, I do believe that the 'dot' info turns off buyers.

I saw an amazing service online that is really helpful in brainstorming good domain names, and it's FREE.

It's Nameboy.com

I have created a short video here that may help in choosing a domain, and using the nameboy service:

Amir Rimer's Blogs Flip (video 3)

Hope I have helped.

Amir

Amir Rimer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 05:55 AM   #13
Lee Dobbins
War Room Member
 
cashcow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: , , .
Posts: 2,681
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: 540
Thanked 736 Times in 520 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

As a buyer - the extension of a site that is established and making money does not matter. It's the income and ease of maintenance that is important.

With a new site, the .com is preferable although I do see plenty of .org .info .net etc... selling over at Flippa as new.

I think that if you know you can get it to make money then go for the .org with the exact keyword phrase. If it will make more money (because it has the exact keyword in the domain) than the .com with the exact keyword then you will be able to flip it for more plain and simple.

On the other hand, how much harder is it to get a .com with an additional word to rank as #1. With that little competition, you should be able to get it no problem, right?

Maybe you should buy the .org exact name domain and a .com variation of the phrase and pick up the #1 and #2 spots?

Lee

cashcow is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 08:11 AM   #14
Suzanne
War Room Member
 
sbucciarel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Virginia, USA.
Posts: 10,672
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 1,215
Thanked 4,066 Times in 2,273 Posts
Default Re: Those Who Are Flipping buyers - Does extension matter?

I'm turned off by infos and dashes in domains. I rarely buy sites that are infos. I've only purchased a couple of infos for myself and I didn't really want to do that but had no other choice.

sbucciarel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum

Tags
buyers, extension, flipping, matter

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:07 PM.