This is Really starting to get annoying!

14 years ago

Although annoying, it actually works. Just yesterday someone posted a response how they finally 'bought' a product, just to see if it was worth $7.

Thanks

Signature

Pick a product. Pick ANY product! -> 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829804].message }}

PaulaC

14 years ago

It must work because I continue to see it. I don't mind it really. What I normally do is if I am ready to purchase a product then I will always hit the back button first to see if those pop-ups come up. Why??..because a lot of the time they will include a discount.

Thanks
2 replies

Signature

My Blog --> Affiliate Blog Online

Our New Membership Site - Affiliate Tools HQ

Amazonian Profit Plan - Our Complete Blueprint for Making Money Online by Promoting Amazon Products - The Amazonian Profit Plan

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829815].message }}

InternetSuccess001

14 years ago

Originally Posted by PaulaC

It must work because I continue to see it. I don't mind it really. What I normally do is if I am ready to purchase a product then I will always hit the back button first to see if those pop-ups come up. Why??..because a lot of the time they will include a discount.

Excellent point

To date though, the types of sites that I have visited that have those types of popups offer products that I haven't really seen the value in... so didn't purchase them, even if it was for $7

I think it is just a 'pushy' salesman technique. It does work initially, but since it was 'forced' on you, you may not want to purchase from that person again (unless it had fantastic value). Most of the sites I have seen however are in it just for a quick buck.

Thanks

Signature

Pick a product. Pick ANY product! -> 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829828].message }}

christopher s

14 years ago

Originally Posted by PaulaC

It must work because I continue to see it. I don't mind it really. What I normally do is if I am ready to purchase a product then I will always hit the back button first to see if those pop-ups come up. Why??..because a lot of the time they will include a discount.

lol, me too. I often wonder if the sites make more money or actually lose money because of these save the sale type pop ups.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023875].message }}

Spot the Ball

14 years ago

Haha,

This is one of my bug bears, I absolutely hate those pop ups and always vow never to return to those sites UNLESS I am genuinly intersted anyway and planned on returning but those pop ups means I got to think its really worth further investiging even more than normal.

Edit .. Just to add that I also think in the back of my mind that if the product was that special you wouldnt need EXTRA hard sell when Im trying to leave.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829818].message }}

John Atkins

14 years ago

I say these posts are getting really annoying. These exit pop-ups will NOT
stop, so get used to it mate.

Why won't they stop?

Because the user makes more cash by using them... it's that simple.

If you don't believe it, try adding these pops to a product of yours
and see for yourself.

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829839].message }}

Spot the Ball

14 years ago

Originally Posted by IM Headlines

I say these posts are getting really annoying. These exit pop-ups will NOT
stop, so get used to it mate.

Why won't they stop?

Because the user makes more cash by using them... it's that simple.

If you don't believe it, try adding these pops to a product of yours
and see for yourself.

No need to be rude, Ive been here 2 months and look in every day, not seen anything regarding this as I can remember.

Plus its usefull for feedback, I wouldnt mind nearly as much if the pop ups thanked me for visiting and pointed me to a large x to click on to leave rather than hard sell. I might even consider returning.

[ 1 ] Thanks
2 replies

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829860].message }}

cellcom

14 years ago

Spot - that is exactly what I am saying, so in essence, even if I had considered buying the product, after doing this it makes it less likely that I ever would.

Thanks for everyone's opinions on this (good and bad).

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Hosting & GoDaddy Discount Coupon Codes
High Quality Solo Ads
Godaddy Discount Promo Codes

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829866].message }}

John Atkins

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cellcom

Spot - that is exactly what I am saying, so in essence, even if I had considered buying the product, after doing this it makes it less likely that I ever would.

Thanks for everyone's opinions on this (good and bad).

Cellcom...

Whoever leaves a salespage will most likely never come back to it
again. In the eyes of the seller, that's a lost sale.

That's why they throw in an exit pop, to make an extra sale or 2
from those people who leave.

It's a very simple process.

You'd be surprised at how much more sales you can make
just by adding a popup that offers a discount. (people
love discounts)

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829903].message }}

John Atkins

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Spot the Ball

No need to be rude, Ive been here 2 months and look in every day, not seen anything regarding this as I can remember.

Are you serious?

Just do a little search for exit popups, annoying popups
etc on this forum... there are plenty of them.

I don't know why so many people find it hard to understand
that these exit popups generate cash. They wouldn't
exist if they didn't work.

Do you guys really think that a product seller is going
to stop using them just because joe & jane don't like
them?

C'mon...

I get annoyed by a lot of things or the internet, but
I don't whine about it, because it's useless.

You can't control what happens on the internet.

Thanks
3 replies

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829888].message }}

Spot the Ball 14 years ago

You could probably find just about anything you wanted on this forum if you actively searched for it :rolleyes:

You are right though and I dont disagree with whether they work, no doubt they do.

I wouldnt mind testing it too if I was marketing that kind of product to see if a more subtle approach better, that is why I think it is a valid thread.
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829906].message }}

TheRichJerksNet

14 years ago

Do you have any stats how how many sales they lose because they have the anoying popups ???

Just wondering ... :rolleyes:

James

Originally Posted by IM Headlines

Are you serious?

Just do a little search for exit popups, annoying popups
etc on this forum... there are plenty of them.

I don't know why so many people find it hard to understand
that these exit popups generate cash. They wouldn't
exist if they didn't work.

Do you guys really think that a product seller is going
to stop using them just because joe & jane don't like
them?

C'mon...

I get annoyed by a lot of things or the internet, but
I don't whine about it, because it's useless.

You can't control what happens on the internet.

[ 1 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829965].message }}

sbucciarel Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by IM Headlines

I don't know why so many people find it hard to understand that these exit popups generate cash. They wouldn't
exist if they didn't work.

YES ... they are extremely annoying. I personally don't care whether or not they generate cash. The question for me is whether or not they annoy me.

No one has ever made a dime from me using them. Obviously I was on my way out of there and then they annoyed me further with the popup, so I will never visit the site again.

Maybe they make some cash with them, but maybe they'd make more cash by repeat visitors who decided to come back and purchase, but don't because they're so damned annoyed by exit popups.
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023527].message }}

lcombs

14 years ago

It's called "upsell Hell".

I hate it!

I've seen so many I don't even bother reading them.
I just scroll to the bottom and click on the "No thanks. Just take me to..."

Thanks

Signature

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fresh...55326481208883

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829843].message }}

JennSpencerIM

14 years ago

On two different sites in the last week I've had to get through FOUR pop-ups to get off the website. Seriously I think ONE is okay but FOUR is ridiculous!!

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829944].message }}

TheRichJerksNet

14 years ago

blacklist the domain in your browser to make sure you do not pull it up again.... If I visit a site with a popup I leave, even if it is 1 popup. If I wanted what you offered I would have bought..

I have no popups on my sites because they annoy me, thus I know they annoy my visitors. There are much more creative ways to get attention and offer a discount with no popups at all ...

James

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829957].message }}

psresearch

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

I have no popups on my sites because they annoy me, thus I know they annoy my visitors. There are much more creative ways to get attention and offer a discount with no popups at all ...

James

This part intrigues me. Do you have any examples you might be willing to share?

Thanks

Signature

Work At Home Truth - Extra Income Edition | Swindles.org

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024466].message }}

Doug Simons

14 years ago

Hey I can see 1 pop up asking if you are sure about the desicion you are about to make but not the ones with countless pop ups or the one that wont let you go back

Thanks

Signature

Create More Profits - 100% Free I M eBooks!

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1829969].message }}

Zeus66

14 years ago

To each his/her own, but I will never use an exit pop-up. I don't give a rat's ass if another marketer thinks that's a lame position to take. If you're willing to do ANYTHING just to get a few more sales, without regard to the annoyance factor you're creating, that's your call. Just don't come in here with a condescending attitude and suggest that anyone not doing it is stupid or ignorant about these issues. That's what's lame here.

John

[ 2 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1830018].message }}

André Silverspoon

14 years ago

Yes annoying but if we get to the other side of it.....it must be effective

Thanks

Signature

http://AndreSilverspoon.com

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023496].message }}

Mrs S

14 years ago

As a user it drives me nuts - which is why I don't use it on my own sites. But then again if it's working maybe I'm leaving money on the table...

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023504].message }}

sdentrepreneur

14 years ago

I am cool with it, I agree that the pop up does offer a better discount. One pop up only, the multiple ones are annoying. I use them on some of my landing pages, they do convert.

Thanks

Signature

Learn Digital, Internet and Social Media Marketing For Your Business
Click here to learn more - Digital and Social Media Marketing Training Course

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023514].message }}

AmyKay

14 years ago

They are surely annoying if it's something you're not interested in. But tests show they do increase conversions. And if I'm actually on the fence about buying something, it's not so bad to me. I would think they are especially effective and less annoying for a downsell offer. So if the price of the product is too much, say $97, so I go to leave the page, and a downsell pop up displays offering it for less.. I'm interested, and the seller gets a sale. It's just sales. Not that different from McDonald's offering me cookies with my order.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023533].message }}

King Shiloh

Banned 14 years ago

Popups annoy me. In fact, it is one of the major ways to make me annoyed in case you have been looking for a way to piss me off.

I hate popups no matter the reason. Yes, I hate them. Period.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023573].message }}

senderbot

14 years ago

Hi,

To those that use these exit popups, I have a question:

Do you ever worry that people who have already purchased without using a popup discount may find out about the discount and ask for a partial refund?

Cheers
Max

Thanks
2 replies

Signature

PornStarStamina is for sale! - Buy the book rights and website! or Just Download the Book For FREE! - Check it out!

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023641].message }}

Moneyland 14 years ago

I am about to get a website created for an ebook product so I will give this exit popup thing a go.

So how do I set this up guys..I have a website company, do I need to give them the pop up tempalte etc and where do I get this from? This is all new to me, so if I am selling a product for $47 what typically would a pop up discount be??

Any help appreciated or examples of a site where I could see this in action would be great. thanks
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023669].message }}

Anonymous Affiliate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by senderbot

To those that use these exit popups, I have a question:

Do you ever worry that people who have already purchased without using a popup discount may find out about the discount and ask for a partial refund?

The thing is that you do NOT offer a discount on an Exit Popup. That's stupid and a sure way to piss off your most valuable asset: your customer list.

Do you want to know how I have managed to increase SIGNIFICANTLY my revenue using exit pop ups? offer a 14-day free trial on the product. If they close out on my sales page, chances are that they're not interested enough to fork out the fee... but what if they could try it out for a week or two for free?

Trust me, many people take me up on that offer. If you're smart with Exit Popups, I can guarantee that they do add up to your bottom line.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023780].message }}

AmyKay

14 years ago

I would use a downsell... they get a portion of the product for a lesser price. That way, as you said, you're not angering your buyers.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023646].message }}

Lyn Woodring

14 years ago

Exit pop ups are annoying if the are not offering new information or a better offer. On a related note are those peel away ads that are displayed if you move your cursor anywhere near the close button on the browser. I may just be scrolling back up the page to re-read a point and go too far with my cursor or maybe I might be going to bookmark it or whatever. Now I've lost focus and irritated, not a good combination as a first impression.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023697].message }}

Zabrina

14 years ago

I don't like exit popups at all. Then again, I'm rather anti-ad in general, so seeing an ad that my Adblock doesn't catch annoys me. :p

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023705].message }}

JayXtreme

14 years ago

I'm all for testing...

But exit pop-ups are never on my list of things to test...

Exit pop up = epic phailage.

Annoying as hell, stinks of desperation, and always, always too limited in what they do.

Peace

Jay

[ 2 ] Thanks

Signature

Bare Murkage.........

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023719].message }}

Alexa Smith

Banned 14 years ago

[DELETED]

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023867].message }}

Anonymous Affiliate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Taking advice in forums is about knowing whom to believe. Three of those people were Jay(Xtreme), James (RichJerksNet) and John (Zeus66). As it happens, all three of them have posted in this very thread. Let's see what they said!

That (and the testing results of my clients) is a whole lot more than just "good enough" for me.

Do you know what's actually A LOT more than "good enough"? studying (and mirroring) the techniques and strategies of people who, while not active in the forums, they've gone to become internet multi millionaires.

For example? Ryan Deiss: Ryan Deiss' Video Sales Letter Formula

Another example? Bill Poulos: Forex Nitty Gritty

Another example? Russel Brunson: Russell Brunson's MicroContinuity.com

Yup, they all do use Exit pop ups on their sale pages, and I'd guess those guys netting 7 figures a year do split test some, wouldn't you reckon?

Thanks
2 replies

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023912].message }}

Alexa Smith Banned 14 years ago

[DELETED]

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023985].message }}
- LindseyRainwater 14 years ago
  
  My personal view is that the best offer should be the first offer. A discount shouldn't be an afterthought. I feel it gives the impression that the site owner is trying to milk their customers for money, and people don't like that.
  
  I say give your best offer right up front. Boom! There it is!
  
  I did also want to say I saw a really weird popup the other day. I was on a site, and clicked a link for more info and pricing. What does it do? Says "Are you sure you want to leave? We have a great offer for you . . . etc."
  
  Ok, I'm trying to go to the next page of your site! Why would you accost me with popups? You actually had to click, "No I'm not interested. Leave page." for it to take you to the next page.
  
  That just screamed "unprofessional" to me, and I'll never be buying there.
  
  I'm sure popups have their place. Otherwise they wouldn't be popular. But the fact is that anything that works will eventually be abused. Abuse of popups really rankles people, so I think they just need to be used carefully.
  
  Thanks
  
  1 reply
  
  Signature
  Limited Time: Grab the "Pay Your Way" option, and get a complete website with content created - without having to pay the full amount up-front! Pay what you can today, and make payments from there! Click HERE for more info!
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024114].message }}
  
  thescribe 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by LindseyRainwater
  
  .... Abuse of popups really rankles people, so I think they just need to be used carefully.
  
  While 1 offer does not bother me much... 2, 3, and 4 exit pops offers annoy the heck out of me.
  
  Thanks
  
  Signature
  CLICK HERE for top quality PLR content...
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024411].message }}

JayXtreme

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate

Do you know what's actually A LOT more than "good enough"? studying (and mirroring) the techniques and strategies of people who, while not active in the forums, they've gone to become internet multi millionaires.

For example? Ryan Deiss: Ryan Deiss' Video Sales Letter Formula

Another example? Bill Poulos: Forex Nitty Gritty

Another example? Russel Brunson: Russell Brunson's MicroContinuity.com

Yup, they all do use Exit pop ups on their sale pages, and I'd guess those guys netting 7 figures a year do split test some, wouldn't you reckon?

The people you mentioned have absolutely no bearing on my business at all.

They might be "netting 7 figures a year", but that definitely doesn't make their way, the only way. I know this from experience.

Peace

Jay

[ 1 ] Thanks

Signature

Bare Murkage.........

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024049].message }}

Lee Wilson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate

Do you know what's actually A LOT more than "good enough"? studying (and mirroring) the techniques and strategies of people who, while not active in the forums, they've gone to become internet multi millionaires.

For example? Ryan Deiss: Ryan Deiss' Video Sales Letter Formula

Another example? Bill Poulos: Forex Nitty Gritty

Another example? Russel Brunson: Russell Brunson's MicroContinuity.com

Yup, they all do use Exit pop ups on their sale pages, and I'd guess those guys netting 7 figures a year do split test some, wouldn't you reckon?

That's okay if you also want their business model. Most of them are shooting themselves in the long term foot. They are going after the inexperienced. That's fine for as long as there are plenty of inexperienced to target and they are easy to grab cheaply.

As traffic gets harder and more expensive to get, and the word gets out that most of these "gurus" are selling you crap - what then. They've already lost most of their "list," and the large percentage that might have stuck around and become loyal customers won't be back.

Pissing off your customers is never going to be good business unless you are only interested in short term results. If money is everything then start testing customer loyalty and cater to them, you'll see significantly better results and you'll be in the game a hell of a lot longer.

[ 2 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024087].message }}

P.Sharma

14 years ago

I love testing things out and exit popups have worked well for me. Do not flame me for this but I really like anything that increases my conversion rate. Its really not all that bad but it should be just an unbeleivable offer for the popups to convert well and make peace with the irritated visitors :-)

Thanks

Signature

World's #1 Solo Ads Directory
DO NOT Buy Another Solo Without Reading These Interviews First!

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023757].message }}

Mohammad Afaq

14 years ago

I hate it, you hate it, other hate it but it works. I tried it and it works good especially when you offer something for free when they are leaving.

Thanks
2 replies

Signature

â€œThe first draft of anything is shit.â€ ~Ernest Hemingway

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023770].message }}

Anonymous Affiliate 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mohammad111

I hate it, you hate it, other hate it but it works. I tried it and it works good especially when you offer something for free when they are leaving.

Ding ding ding... WINNER!
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023788].message }}
Moneyland 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mohammad111

I hate it, you hate it, other hate it but it works. I tried it and it works good especially when you offer something for free when they are leaving.

cool ok so maybe not offer a discount... what do you offer free when they are leaving. I will be having a pop-up with opt in for free guide when they come to the site, would I just have this programmed again to show when vistors leave?

never done this so hoping someone who has had success from this can give me an idea of how to set this up...??

cheers!
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023849].message }}

RoyceM

14 years ago

One Pop-Up...Ok, Two Pop-ups...I am getting a little annoyed!
Three and Four Pop-ups....Come On! Are You Kidding Me!

Thanks

Signature

Do You Need JSS Tripler or W2X Referrals? Click HERE and get them for FREE!

PLUS - I will show you how to join BOTH FOR FREE!

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2023793].message }}

Alexa Smith

Banned 14 years ago

[DELETED]

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024390].message }}

Brandon Tanner

14 years ago

Some food for thought for the "it increases conversions" crowd...

Let's say an exit popup increases your conversion rate by 1-2%, yet it annoys 10% of your visitors to the point that they will never buy anything from you again.

Is it worth getting an extra 1 to 2% in sales now, while sacrificing 10% of your potential lifetime customers?

Of course there is no way to test how many potential future customers you are losing by using an exit popup, but judging from the way many react whenever this topic "pops up" (no pun intended

), 10% might be a conservative figure.

Something to think about.

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024483].message }}

Anonymous Affiliate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner

Let's say an exit popup increases your conversion rate by 1-2%, yet it annoys 10% of your visitors to the point that they will never buy anything from you again.

Is it worth getting an extra 1 to 2% in sales now, while sacrificing 10% of your potential lifetime customers?

Do you realize that chances are that, if someone walks away from your sales page or your squeeze page he will not land on it again unless you're a super guru with hundreds of affiliates pushing your product? that person walking away is, literally, traffic lost for good.

Under such circumstances, don't you think it makes sense to give them the option to optin to your mailing list so indeed they hear from you again in the future via you email sequence?

And again, why do you assume that offering a freebie on your Exit pop up will annoy anyone? and, assuming he's a lost visitor anyway, what does it matter as long as you can reconvert a portion of those people back into your sales funnel?

Again, I talk first hand experience here: I have had A GREAT success offering a free trial of my product as an Exit Out offer. Those people would have NEVER tried out my product had I not placed that script, and they're now in my sales funnel for future revenue.

You can argue until you're blue in the face, but unless you've run some first-hand tests yourself offering different Exit Out offers and tracking your results, then your opinions are not being based on hard data.

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2025010].message }}

sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate

Do you realize that chances are that, if someone walks away from your sales page or your squeeze page he will not land on it again unless you're a super guru with hundreds of affiliates pushing your product? that person walking away is, literally, traffic lost for good.

I don't know how many there are like me, but I am not an impulse buyer. I have walked away from many sites only to come back and buy in a week or so after doing more thinking and research on it.

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2025081].message }}

Lee Wilson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

I don't know how many there are like me, but I am not an impulse buyer. I have walked away from many sites only to come back and buy in a week or so after doing more thinking and research on it.

This has also been widely tested. Most people do the same, if I recall correctly it's something like the seventh visit on average before someone makes the decision to actually buy. The same goes for offline selling as well. Obviously I don't know if it's true but I've read / heard it many times from respected marketers (the real entrepreneur kind)

It's difficult to test the true effectiveness of pop-ups but one thing that doesn't need testing is whether it strengthens or damages your customer relationship. Pop-ups might be good for hit and run tactics, but that's about it.

Lee

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2025216].message }}

Hyphen

14 years ago

Yeah, I think these methods are both annoying and ineffective. I don't like this form of comeback marketing.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024429].message }}

bfas

14 years ago

That whole "if it increases my earnings, it's good and ok to do" argument is spurious. Spam will increase your sales. Exaggerated claims will increase your conversions.

It's the same as saying "I could give a rats @ss about customers, I'll do whatever increases my bottom line".

Why limit yourself to 1 pop-up? Or 3? What's wrong with pissing off someone who wasn't going to buy, if it nets me a couple more sales?

Personally, I'm much happier limiting myself to the things I would find ok if I were on the other side of the equation. There's just way too many ways to make money 'nicely' without having to try and wring every nickel I can.

bfas

Thanks

Signature

* * * FREE Tools - - FREE Content - - FREE Apps - - FREE Resources * * *

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024460].message }}

E. Brian Rose

14 years ago

I hate it, but at the same time I use it. One of my sites sells a medical device for seniors and I can't tell you how many times a customer has told me that they would not have bought if it wasn't for the popup telling them not to leave. I use it to let them know that the sale is ending in a day or two.

Thanks

Signature

Founder of JVZoo. All around good guy :)

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2024698].message }}

This is Really starting to get annoying!

Trending Topics

Boat and Jet Ski Rentals...... Door Hangers Effective?

Are billboards still effective in driving customers?

A Very Strange Internet Problem

Let's dissect the genius behind Nike's 'Just Do It' slogan. What makes it so powerful and timeless?

4 underutilised SEO research approaches to explore