NLP, what do you recommend?

by ruch1v
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Hey guys, I hadn't heard of NLP until recently and I'm quite intrigued by it, I would like to learn abit more about it, but since I don't know anything about it, I don't really know whose product will be good, has anyone got any recommendations?

thanks


Ruchi
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  • Read some books by Tony Robbins... he gets into a bit in his books. If you are looking for the exact science, there are a lot of good scientific books as well (just search for NLP science, etc)
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  • Profile picture of the author simonjwarner
    The original books my Dr Bandler are by far the best.
    If you are looking for NLP for a sales angle then a fellow warrior has some great content on his blog, im going to dig thro my history file for you, I was reading it today.

    Frank Kern's Mass Control covers some great NLP stuff, in fact Frank is a good pal of Tony Robbins.

    Anchoring and pattern interupts are good skills to learn.
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    • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
      Originally Posted by thehypnoman View Post

      The original books my Dr Bandler are by far the best.
      If you are looking for NLP for a sales angle then a fellow warrior has some great content on his blog, im going to dig thro my history file for you, I was reading it today.

      Frank Kern's Mass Control covers some great NLP stuff, in fact Frank is a good pal of Tony Robbins.

      Anchoring and pattern interupts are good skills to learn.
      Frank actually claims he doesn't do anything to do with NLP in mass control despite many people believing so, I heard him say that in one of his interviews.

      please do dig it up if you can, sounds interesting

      thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    hmm, I'm actually reading a Tony Robbins book now as it happens, 'called notes from a friend' this book, and all the other Tony Robbins stuff i've come across is mostly motivational stuff really, do you have any examples?
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  • Profile picture of the author YseUp
    Book: An Introduction to NLP by Joseph O'Connor
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Ski
    Harlan Kilstein does a lot of NLP copywriting stuff if thats what you're after... His blog is - NLP Copywriting Harlan Kilstein (I'm not associated with him in any way)
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Ramsey
    Once you want to start learning techniques, my old buddy Shlomo Vaknin (an innovator in NLP, IMO) put out a book recently.

    Best book of techniques I've ever seen.

    Amazon.com: The Big Book Of NLP Techniques: 200+...Amazon.com: The Big Book Of NLP Techniques: 200+...
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    ok, I just typed in 'NLP pattern interrupt' into youtube and this is what just came up


    I'm more confused than before
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    Richard bandler is the guy to search for on Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raygun
    I actually posted something similar to this in the mindset part of this forum. I have had a ton of success with NLP is several aspects of my life. What is great about it is that if you do it correctly you will feel the results almost instantly. That is why I try to do something like that almost everyday.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Bandler & Grinder, Milton Erickson, Joseph O'Conner, Tony Robbins, Shlomo, Jamie Smart, there's a bunch.

    Kern is definately a hardcore NLPer.
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      Bandler & Grinder, Milton Erickson, Joseph O'Conner, Tony Robbins, Jamie Smart.
      ALL of the above ...
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      • Profile picture of the author Adam Nolan
        My business coach Bryce Healey and I actually got to meet and work with Tony Robbins this past January. Bryce's website has some great info on it too! Just google his name

        I'd check out "Neuro-linguisitic Programming for dummies" as a good starting point. It's where I started but anything by Bandler, Grinder, Tony Robbins, or Cialdini is great. I particularly like "Influence" by Robert Cialdini.

        Hehe I love this stuff - spent 4 years in school studying it!

        Best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author simonjwarner
    If you want to see some good NLP in action, then the List Control video has some great stuff. I might do analysis on it.


    Pretty sure Ryan Deiss is an NLPer as well
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    One of the first books John Grinder and Richard Bandler wrote about NLP was actually a transcript of a seminar they gave in which they taught NLP to a group of therapists. The book is called "From Frogs To Princes."

    It was one of the better explainations of how to use NLP I have ever seen.

    It is out of print, and copies of it do sell at Amazon for a small fortune. You can probably find it at you library. I also googled it and found several .pdf files of it online.

    Dr. John Grinder was approached by a young undergraduate student (Richard Bandler) wanting some help with a research project about Gestault therapy. Through this they came across Dr Jean Piaget's studies of how people learn - auditorially, visually, kinesthetically.

    Later the two collaborated on a project to determine why some therapists like Dr. Milton Erickson were wonderfully effective with patients while other therapist weren't.

    Their creation of NLP came out of this. Thus the book "From Frogs To Princes" from the seminar on effective communication for therapists.

    :-Don
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    • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      One of the first books John Grinder and Richard Bandler wrote about NLP was actually a transcript of a seminar they gave in which they taught NLP to a group of therapists. The book is called "From Frogs To Princes."
      :-Don
      I had that book once but left it at my wife's ancestral house. Yups most of
      the contents of the book came from transcriptions conducted by Grinder and
      Bandler.

      It was interesting though I believe learning from books could only take you
      quite as far, I believe the best way to learn NLP is by actually attending a
      seminar. You won't get to really understand observing physiology and all
      just by reading the principles.

      The pattern interrupt showed in the above video clearly shows how to shift
      mental states. It's quite a clear demonstration of how to help people get out
      of the usual "I have a problem" mental state.

      All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Hi Ruchi,

    That's a great question and as you've already found - the answers can come in many forms.

    I've been studying NLP for 10 years and practicing it for over 7. Here's my take on this:

    Richard Bandler and John Grinder invented NLP, so if you want to understand what it's all about - read their work.

    I've read everything of both of theirs and it's really good stuff.

    The real question is - what do you want to get from NLP?

    You see, it's really just another way of looking at how people work, so you can use it for personal development and your own success and happiness, you can use it to help others in coaching and therapeutic ways, or you can apply it in sales/marketing and other communication strategies in pretty much any situation.

    Like most things, there's a lot of NLP jargon and you can usually tell when someone has recently discovered NLP because of the way they talk, the same as newbie IMers.

    So, there are many ways to answer your question but without knowing how you heard of it and what you are hoping it can do for you, all I can really do is suggest you read Bandlers material so that you understand how it started and go from there.

    It's really interesting and great fun, once you learn some of it you can't help but see the world differently.

    Also, some of the current 'experts' (not sure how I would quantify that term) have their own version of their NLP based systems. Tad James is a good example, he's an NLPer but his systems tend to combine NLP with Time-Line therapy and Hypnosis, that's a model I like and you can help people in a lot of ways with that triple approach.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Fladlien
      Bandler is my "go to" for NLP. Frogs into princes is a decent place to start. I really like his recent book "conversations with Richard Bandler" and also "how to get what you want out of life" would be a great starting point for the person just getting into NLP.

      Unlimited power by Tony Robbins has a lot of great NLP in it.
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  • Profile picture of the author craigbrown
    I've just started my NLP course and I'm in the process of devouring "conversations with Richard Bandler". Highly recommend.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Reynolds
    Anything by Richard Bandler is great. He is not an easy read but if you stay with him its worth the time. Paul McKenna (his most devoted disciple) is a good hypotists and NLP trainer. Tony Robbins, one of my favs, uses NLP masterfully and his seminars are great (but expensive)

    There are pretty good self-study DVD program around. Jamie Smart has many but nothing compares to a live course and practice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Affiliatefunk
      I'm not an expert in Neuro Linguistic Programming but you can check the work of Jim Rohn(if i remember well Tony Robin's Mentor) and from Maxwell Maltz the book Psycho-Cybernetics.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zulfus
      I had a look at this a while back, check out NLP weekly forum, and their free course. It's all on youtube, and their website.

      It'll give a pretty good foundation.

      I found for me, that's all i needed.

      Zul

      Edit: Also, pretty much all those books mentioned above are gold (Y)
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Heart of the Mind ~ Engaging Your Inner Power to Change with Neuro-Linguistic Programming by Connirae and Steve Andreas.

    These two people were once very close to Bandler and Grinder in the early days of NLP. They are responsible for having developed many of the foundational techniques. Heart of the Mind is a collection of techniques designed to overcome many life challenges. You can usually pick it up for small money on Amazon or eBay. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author peterj
      It depends on what you are looking to get out of it.

      If you are looking to become a practitioner, than many of the above suggestions are great.

      Myself, I like Ross Jefferies stuff. His approach is geared towards the seduction side of things.

      But once you look beyond the facade you can see how to apply these (NLP) techniques in your everyday real world interactions.

      I got to appreciate the practicality of NLP going through his stuff.

      Pete
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    Just stick with Dr. Bandler, he started the whole damn thing anyway
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I forgot to mention - There are probably NLP practice groups in or near your area.

    I've been able to find a practice group most places I've lived. That way you'll also find more applications, more teachers, books, and also get to learn new things that people have come up with to supplement the original nlp strategies and try them out. Most nlp groups have regular guest speakers who are pushing the boundaries of the element of nlp they focus on.

    It's also important to remember that while nlp is great - there are also other things that get results for the same things in different ways and do things that nlp doesn't - so learn it, but remember it has its place and when you're clear about your goals, there may be other disciplines or techniques that can replace, support, enhance it.

    As an example, it may be that you're using nlp as a life coach and get some clients who are clinically depressed and can be helped more effectively with something like the Lightning Process. So just be aware of what else there is. It's easy to find nlp and get the bug and forget it's not the answer to everything.

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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    Hi guys, thanks for all the great responses, I now have a whole bunch of people to look up

    The reason I am interested in NLP is from a sales/marketing perspective.

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Hancox
      Originally Posted by ruch1v View Post

      Hi guys, thanks for all the great responses, I now have a whole bunch of people to look up

      The reason I am interested in NLP is from a sales/marketing perspective.
      For NLP in a sales / marketing perspective, enjoy Persuasion Engineering by Richard Bandler and John La Valle.

      It's a slightly unusual book, but that's because he's using NLP on the reader and getting them to use language flexibly.
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      • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
        Rintu Basu's "Persuasion Skills Black Book" is very useful for
        somebody not looking for NLP theory, just how to use
        language patterns persuasively. It's been "reviewer bombed"
        on Amazon by people who resent the author, but I bought
        it and found it very useful.

        Jamie Smart, mentioned above, has a nice teaching method
        with NLP "playing cards".

        Most NLP books I've read are pretty dry, obtuse, and
        theoretical. It's a deep study with a lot of people writing
        about it who make their money teaching seminars and
        writing new books about it to make their money... thus,
        just like IM, the need for new "innovations"... and perhaps
        overcomplications of the core NLP theory.

        Tony Robbins is pretty accessible.

        If you're in a major US or Australian city you can go to
        one of Christopher Howard's free 3-day "Breakthrough
        to Success" seminars. Lots of NLP stuff covered in those.

        It's really much easier to understand NLP basics in a
        seminar setting than reading books or even listening to
        recordings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anoopchawla
    OP there is a home study course availaible for nlp- The living Encyclopedia of NLP. The same company offers advanced course after you have master encyclopedia they also hold seminard where they offer Certifications too. I recently got The living encyclopedia of NLP.

    Though it is very good but I think it is pretty intense and detailed for me. So i always stick with tony robbins as he is a genius and his works seems to work best for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    The best book I've read on sales and buyer psychology is not an NLP
    book at all. It's written by a guy who sold vacation/investment
    properties.

    If you want to persuade to make money, NLP can help you, but the
    real masters are salesmen. Some have studied NLP, but many have
    not. Elmer Wheeler is good - old school.

    "The Closers" is the best book on persuasion to make sales in my
    opinion. If you're in sales or marketing you may feel your heart
    pounding when you read the revelations in it.

    Roger Dawson's books on persuasion are accessible, practical,
    and not mixed up with mumbo jumbo. I recommend them highly.

    Kevin Hogan is quite good too.
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