Run your car on water

It would help if the Run your Car On Water stuff wan't an outright scam though.

Bruce Simpson put up the One Million Dollar HHO Challenge and so far none of the water4gas people have taken him up on it - despite a million dollars being a lot more than what they're making off each kit.

It's an appealing idea, but violates the laws of thermodynamics.

This is not to say that you couldn't make some money off it if you were willing to ignore ethics and take people's money under false pretenses, but there are better business ideas out there that don't require you to become a cut-rate carnival huckster.

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autofix

16 years ago

IMO don't go there! These things do not work as advertised and installing them on a new-ish car (EFI) requires adjusting the air/fuel map to make the engine run lean on it's normal fuel - a recipe for disaster should the 'system' not deliver enough gas or stop working for any number of possible reasons.

There has been some very heated discussions on our blog regarding this issue but at the end of the day our test proved that they do not work like the promotors would have you believe and the theory behind it is fundamentally flawed (read scam).

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AndreVas

16 years ago

MythBusters Season 04, episode 10... covers the myths going around on running your car on water.

Summary: Biggest B.S. that can not and will not work in a thousand years.

Eg: Most common method is you fill a tank with water (called "hydrogen fuel cell") and apply electrosis (simply applying + and -) to the water. The water starts bubbling, releasing hydrogen.

And this hydrogen is supposed to power up your car. In their test, the output of hydrogen was so little that the car couldn't even start.

Then they took a hydrogen gas from a compressor and inputted it directly into the carborator of the car. Results...

Yes car started immediately. But this was from a HUGE hydrogen gas tank at +-1 psi pressure.

Second time they did it, caused a small fire.

Conclusion: MYTH BUSTED!

FACT: Not a single "run your car on water" affiliate promoter is running their car on water. Not even the product creator. :-)

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Quilst 16 years ago

Thanks guys!

That is one step I won't do then. Seemd like a good idea at the time.

Back to the drawing board I guess...
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autofix

16 years ago

With all due respect and I'm not trying to defend these 'systems' AndreVas but what they are doing is supplementing the vehicles original fuel supply with hydrogen gas to increase fuel effiency and not run the car completely on hydrogen.

Therein lies the main issue though, Run Your Car On Water sounds like..... well run your car on water which is false advertising in itself. Water 4 Gas blah blah blah it is all very misleading.

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JeffH

16 years ago

If it really was possible to run your car on water the car companies would be selling it installed on all their vehicles long before some guy selling a how-to ebook on Clickbank.

If you invented it and it actually worked, where would you sell it? The car manufacturers or Clickbank?

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greenovni

16 years ago

To all a warning: These things BLOW UP. I blew 1 of them up outside of the car in a controlled environment to see what would happen if there was a spark back in the car since this gas does not need oxygen to burn (Meaning it can travel back to the cell through the hose).

The cell, being glass, blew up into 1,000,000 pieces and the boom alone got the police to my door since my neighbors thought that I shot myself (funny after the police left).

Dos the "fuel cell" produce a flammable gas? Yes, it does. Is the gas enough to power a car? No it is not.

I've tried it on a lawnmower . . . no go
On a bycicle motor (they sell them on ebay) sputtering all over the place

I think that the technology will be here someday . . . but not today.

Warning: Extremely volatile gas . . . Super Strong Explosions

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Quilst

16 years ago

Originally Posted by greenovni

To all a warning: These things BLOW UP. I blew 1 of them up outside of the car in a controlled environment to see what would happen if there was a spark back in the car since this gas does not need oxygen to burn (Meaning it can travel back to the cell through the hose).

The cell, being glass, blew up into 1,000,000 pieces and the boom alone got the police to my door since my neighbors thought that I shot myself (funny after the police left).

Dos the "fuel cell" produce a flammable gas? Yes, it does. Is the gas enough to power a car? No it is not.

I've tried it on a lawnmower . . . no go
On a bycicle motor (they sell them on ebay) sputtering all over the place

I think that the technology will be here someday . . . but not today.

Warning: Extremely volatile gas . . . Super Strong Explosions

LOL

You must have been feeling like that coyote from road runner XD

No wonder my good friend Khim is seeing decrease in sales

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Dan Maloney 16 years ago

I've been following this niche for a while, since there are a LOT of clickbank products dealing with the water4gas thing. water4gas, fuelwater1, marketss12, waterfuelx, etc. More and more of them crop up every day. And Affiliate Elite shows a lot of them with increasing gravity and massive longevity, so they are obviously selling.

I know that doesn't mean they work. The Law of Thermodynamics argument is compelling. What I just don't understand is why there doesn't seem to be a lot of chargebacks and outrage from dissatisfied customers. Has anyone bought these things or been in any of their customer forums? Is it just a bunch of fake testimonials propping this whole industry up?

I guess I need to do some more research here, because I'm not going to promote the stuff if it doesn't actually work.
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- greenovni 16 years ago
  
  enjourni:
  
  The problem is not if it works or not. There is a whole movement on youtube working on hydro cells.
  
  There is also a company here in Florida working on it too . . . and has government contracts to boot.
  
  The problem is that when people buy, they think that they can "run their car on water" once you receive the e-book and access to their forum, you then see that you are making a hydro cell to supplement your gasoline.
  
  Since there is really no way to see a significant gain after installing the hydro cell, you then don't complain thinking that "it's working".
  
  Another thing working in the author's are those people who never TAKE ACTION.
  
  They buy the book, read it, see that there is actual physical work involved and do nothing.
  
  Now, once the cell is installed and working and all the electronics "fooled" you can buy a scanguageII and connect it to your car's computer . . . and guess what?
  
  When you have your hydro cell off the scanguageII shows normal MPG
  
  When you have your hydro cell on the MPG shown (Highway) on the scangauageII jumps over 70% at least on this end.
  
  I personally saw a scanguageII read 345MPG on a 2006 jeep Cherokee @ 65MPH on the highway with a huge hydro cell of 12 plates (not the little coil you make from the e-book).
  
  So, yes . . . the e-books sell, there's hardly any refunds because people see all of these videos on youtube etc and also their forums are kinda "cult like"
  
  Now, their marketing, I think, is unethical because people think that they will buy a book and be able to run on water.
  
  I have their book and it was a very interesting read. . . disappointed @ their little hydro cell so I made my own design
  
  The trick is not on the cell itself . . . the trick is on how you apply the current to the hydro cell...
  
  RESONATING - PULSING CURRENT works the best and creates a whole LOT more hydro that any little cell you can make with an e book
  
  That, my friends, is the WHOLE trick to running any motor on "water".
  
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  Kay King 16 years ago
  
  Have you noticed that whenever you see this topic discussed - someone will say "let me know how it does when you try it"? Is this a version of "let Mikey try it".
  
  Perhaps I'm too cautious but I can't see testing a questionable method to save a few bucks on gas - when there is a risk that you will ruin the engine of a multi-thousand dollar vehicle.
  
  Greenovni - sounds like you need a new lawn mower and bicycle motor:rolleyes:
  The real market here may be in providing replacement motors as a backend product to water4gas....
  
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  Dan Maloney 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kay King
  
  The real market here may be in providing replacement motors as a backend product to water4gas....
  
  What an upsell! lol.
  
  I think I'm going to sum up the whole thing as "psudoscience": there is just enough science talk regarding hydrogen and just enough change in how your car seems to work that people think it's real. Hydrogen probably works... just can't do it with a $100 ebook and some glass jars. It also seems reasonable that if it really worked every auto shop in the world would be trying to sell one and new cars would have them built-in... not just some obscure info on clickbank.
  
  Thanks for the help here, guys.
  
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  Quilst 16 years ago
  
  Glad to see that people actually talk about the thing that I'we posted.
  What does J/K means ina a video comment?
  
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  jimfurr 16 years ago
  
  J/K means Just Kidding - or something like it.
  
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  As far as water for gas:
  
  I have only seen 1 of them actually say you could convert to 100% water.
  
  Water in your cars fuel - injected at the intake is actually helpful.
  It will help clean the top-end of the engine (heads, pistons, valves, etc.)
  
  I added mist to my fuel a long time ago and it was great -
  stopped ping and dieseling too. Gas mileage was not a factor then.
  
  I am not saying that G4W works, just saying it does not Hurt an engine.
  
  Back-fire is another story - that can be controlled with a check valve.
  
  Jim Furr ><>
  
  PS: And idiots that put fuel directly into a carborator deserve whatever happens.
  
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  Scott Ames 16 years ago
  
  Didn't locomotives run on water ? LOL
  
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  Floyd Fisher 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Scott Ames
  
  Didn't locomotives run on water ? LOL
  
  Google 'steam engine' to see how that contraption works. LOL
  
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  JonnyAndrews 16 years ago
  
  I actually have a buddy in the auto repair world who tried this stuff out. If you really want to drive a butt-ton of traffic and sales you would do what he's doing:
  
  Video review where you buy the product in question and actually have a certified, trained mechanic DO IT.
  
  That's your landing page.
  
  Optin to sales letter is where people can get the real stuff that works.
  
  I asked my friend about this and he said the only way to actually save on gas
  is to A: get rid of the SUV (obvious step 1) B: keep up on your reg maint C: check
  the air in you're times D: keep your tank full as you can lose up to 18% efficiency due to
  fumes and whatnot.
  
  And greenovni... yea, you rock! I also have a passion for stuff that blows up and brings the police!
  
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- Johnny12345 16 years ago
  
  You cannot run your car on water. Water does not burn (you know, as in "internal combustion engine"). And, as Greenovni found out, trying to pull hydrogen gas out of water is extremely dangerous.
  
  General Motors has a hydrogen vehicle in development. It cost MILLIONS of dollars to develop (and it's still FAR from being ready for production). Do you really think you can reproduce their results with a $50 ClickBank e-book and a mayonnaise jar with some hoses attached to it?
  
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Alex Sol

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Melkor

It would help if the Run your Car On Water stuff wan't an outright scam though.

Bruce Simpson put up the One Million Dollar HHO Challenge and so far none of the water4gas people have taken him up on it - despite a million dollars being a lot more than what they're making off each kit.

It's an appealing idea, but violates the laws of thermodynamics.

This is not to say that you couldn't make some money off it if you were willing to ignore ethics and take people's money under false pretenses, but there are better business ideas out there that don't require you to become a cut-rate carnival huckster.

Funny fact:

Bruce Simpson makes money off of that niche

Hmmm smells like a reverse psychology marketing strategy

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hydrocars

15 years ago

its up to them if they want to believe it or not, but in these times we need to have another alternative for fuels.

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Chris Lockwood

15 years ago

I'm going to hop in my perpetual motion machine and try this idea!

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hiphil

15 years ago

"Running your car on water"?!

This idea has been around for centuries, only in the old days they called it a "perpetual motion machine".

It didn't work then and it won't work now!

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rdmorrow

15 years ago

Hi,
There is a lot of talk about running your car on water but does it really work. It sounds to good to be true.

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