Put article on your site before Ezinearticles?

phil.wheatley · 10-10-2008, 07:26 AM

Hi Guys

I heard that if you've got an article you want to use for both content on your site and to submit to Ezinearticles, it's best to put it on your site first so that your own site doen'st get penalized for duplicate content. If so, do I have to wait until Google crawls it/caches it so that it knows it was on my site first?

Thanks,
Phil

magiangel · 10-10-2008, 07:36 AM

Great question, I was wondering this also for myself.

HeySal · 10-10-2008, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philbobaggins

Hi Guys

I heard that if you've got an article you want to use for both content on your site and to submit to Ezinearticles, it's best to put it on your site first so that your own site doen'st get penalized for duplicate content. If so, do I have to wait until Google crawls it/caches it so that it knows it was on my site first?

Thanks,
Phil

If your site is a blog you can use ping back to notify them you have updated - and for a regular static website, you have to ask someone else. I would kind of like to know that myself - other than just googling to find out.

Tuzic · 10-10-2008, 07:37 AM

hi,

some people say its better than submitting to article directories but suppose you ahve to try it & see which works best for you.

naonline · 10-10-2008, 07:42 AM

That's right Sal but I think the question was more about where to submit content first?

Ben Roy · 10-10-2008, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philbobaggins

Hi Guys

I heard that if you've got an article you want to use for both content on your site and to submit to Ezinearticles, it's best to put it on your site first so that your own site doen'st get penalized for duplicate content. If so, do I have to wait until Google crawls it/caches it so that it knows it was on my site first?

Thanks,
Phil

Yes and no. You do want Google to know that it's on your site first. But generally I don't think there should be any waiting involved. If you use the regular tools that you should be using (rss, ping, sitemaps, etc) and you update your content on any kind of regular basis, Google should come by and pick your new stuff up long before EZA gets around to approving it.

Overall, I've found that worrying about these little details is a distraction and not worth it. Just write your content, post it on your site, post it on EZA and move on to the next one.

zeurois · 10-10-2008, 07:43 AM

If the same content is on your website too, are you allowed to add it to ezine as well?!

HeySal · 10-10-2008, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naonline

That's right Sal but I think the question was more about where to submit content first?

oops - Definitely put it on your own site first. I always wait around 48 hours before I give anything I post to submission sites - but at this point in time everything I post is on wordpress so I know the pingback is working.

talfighel · 10-10-2008, 08:03 AM

I am not sure how this works but I usually make a new website with the article in it, and when I am done I add that page to the EZA.

I don't think that it really matters. I am not really sure about this.

But one thing that I did find out is that if I add the article to my website first and then to EZA, I get my website listed too.

Try to do this both ways and see how it goes for you.

Tal

tommygadget · 10-10-2008, 08:09 AM

I use this formula and it works for me and many others. I have an article. I post it to my website (I am using blogs these days for SEO). I edit the title, the first and last paragraphs, sometimes I add another paragraph here and there and submit to EZA. I don't wait, I post as soon as I am done editing. I then create another version of the title and use Dragon Naturally Speaking to edit the article while I am reading it to create version 3. I take this and submit to iSnare and the other top 20 article directories. Guess how much traffic I get! Yep, it's a lot. Go ahead and try it once a day for one month. It will take you about an hour or less.

TomG.

phil.wheatley · 10-10-2008, 08:47 AM

Thanks all for your replies. Yeah, the main reason for doing it this way (site first) was for SEO reasons. Otherwise, as I understood(?) it, if it's on Ezine first, Google looks at it as if Ezinearctiles owns the content/is the orginator of the content, so that when it sees that it's on your site thereafter, it's SEO rating is affected because it sees it as duplicate content. I do agree also that some things aren't worth worrying about too much but this is for a static page which will be staying up for a long time so the SEO aspect is a concern. If it was just for a blog post then sure, it's not worth thinking about.

CIIC · 10-10-2008, 08:47 AM

I don't know -- but I think it would make sense for Google to realize that if you have the article up on your page with no link to EzineArticles, and EzineArticles has the article up with a link to your site that it is the property of your own site. Either that or they browse date and time of page creation somehow?????

Again, I don't know. I'm not smart.

Paul Buckley · 10-10-2008, 09:03 AM

Yes. Put it on your site first then submit a somewhat abbreviated (which makes it unique) version to the article directories.

Zeus66 · 10-10-2008, 09:23 AM

There would be no "duplicate penalty" in either scenario. That pertains to having the same content twice or more on your own site, not having the same article posted on two or more different properties. And even then, it's controversial and not a sure thing.

Unless you're too time crunched, rewrite the article before submitting it or posting it to your site (whichever you do second). You don't have to spend a lot of time on it. Just go sentence by sentence and change out some of the words. It becomes easy after a bit of practice.

John

phil.wheatley · 10-10-2008, 09:42 AM

Cheers John

Kay King · 10-10-2008, 09:44 AM

Using website content for ezinearticle content?

I put a new article on the site - and submit it to EZA after that site page has been indexed. It has nothing to do with duplicate content - you can't plagiarize yourself! This is what I've done for years after testing different methods.

As for "details" - writing articles and building sites is time consuming work. Paying attention to details and testing various methods helps you get the most bang from the work you've done.

kay

Bon508 · 10-10-2008, 09:58 AM

I write my articles for my ezine first. My subscribers don't pay anything, but I like to give them the best of my original content before sharing it with anyone else. I generally wait a week or so after my ezine goes out, then post the article on my site. Then wait another week or so, and post it to EZA. Sometimes I modify the article a bit from the one in my ezine before it goes on my site or to EZA, because my ezine version tends to be more personal... I'm writing to people I've built a relationship with.

But I don't follow this general practice all the time. Sometimes I don't change a single word. Sometimes I submit an article to EZA before posting it to my site (sometimes I even forget to post it to my site at all). But my ezine is always my first publication form for my articles.

Perhaps if I were more consistent and did it the way others here suggest, I'd get better results. But I'm not "suffering" by any means. My site gets top SERP positions for my major keywords. So I guess I'm saying, "Just keep publishing quality content and you'll reap the rewards."

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tommygadget Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Up North, USA Posts: 2,181 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 75 Thanked 217 Times in 123 Posts Social Networking	Re: Put article on your site before Ezinearticles? I use this formula and it works for me and many others. I have an article. I post it to my website (I am using blogs these days for SEO). I edit the title, the first and last paragraphs, sometimes I add another paragraph here and there and submit to EZA. I don't wait, I post as soon as I am done editing. I then create another version of the title and use Dragon Naturally Speaking to edit the article while I am reading it to create version 3. I take this and submit to iSnare and the other top 20 article directories. Guess how much traffic I get! Yep, it's a lot. Go ahead and try it once a day for one month. It will take you about an hour or less. TomG.
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phil.wheatley Advanced Tea Maker War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 552 Thanks: 57 Thanked 71 Times in 44 Posts Social Networking	Re: Put article on your site before Ezinearticles? Thanks all for your replies. Yeah, the main reason for doing it this way (site first) was for SEO reasons. Otherwise, as I understood(?) it, if it's on Ezine first, Google looks at it as if Ezinearctiles owns the content/is the orginator of the content, so that when it sees that it's on your site thereafter, it's SEO rating is affected because it sees it as duplicate content. I do agree also that some things aren't worth worrying about too much but this is for a static page which will be staying up for a long time so the SEO aspect is a concern. If it was just for a blog post then sure, it's not worth thinking about.
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Bon508 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Posts: 190 Thanks: 74 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Re: Put article on your site before Ezinearticles? I write my articles for my ezine first. My subscribers don't pay anything, but I like to give them the best of my original content before sharing it with anyone else. I generally wait a week or so after my ezine goes out, then post the article on my site. Then wait another week or so, and post it to EZA. Sometimes I modify the article a bit from the one in my ezine before it goes on my site or to EZA, because my ezine version tends to be more personal... I'm writing to people I've built a relationship with. But I don't follow this general practice all the time. Sometimes I don't change a single word. Sometimes I submit an article to EZA before posting it to my site (sometimes I even forget to post it to my site at all). But my ezine is always my first publication form for my articles. Perhaps if I were more consistent and did it the way others here suggest, I'd get better results. But I'm not "suffering" by any means. My site gets top SERP positions for my major keywords. So I guess I'm saying, "Just keep publishing quality content and you'll reap the rewards."
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