EzineArticles is changing? - targeting certain people?

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Ok, my frustration level has hit it's peak.

A couple of weeks ago I started writing articles on a particular niche. I also bought a premium membership because I didn't want to wait to get my articles out and wanted them reviewed right away.

The first several went off without a hitch.

Now, I don't know if they hired some new people or are just targeting me. But out of the last 6 articles I have written, 4 of them have come back as problems with the following...

Your article does not adhere to the following Editorial Guideline, Section 2.a.

Editorial Guidelines For Submitting Quality Articles To EzineArticles.com

Your article body must deliver on the promise of the title. For example, if the title includes a location-name, please be sure the article offers unique details about the location other than repeating the location-name as part of a key phrase.

If the title promises a specific number of tips, the article must deliver the promised number of tips in a clearly defined fashion. If the title includes phrases like 'How To' or 'Where To,' the article should explain specifically 'how' and exactly 'where'. Please edit your article body so that it delivers on the promise of the title.

In order to provide you with timely results, please login to your Membership Account, make the necessary changes and resubmit your article within the next 48 hours:
Then what happens is I go back and modify the article. Sometimes more than once. What I am learning is that they are requiring me to TELL people how to do what my article title says.

For example...let's say I am selling a weight loss product. I have a catchy title, but not one that says 'how to'. In the body I discuss the problems with losing weight and other things that maybe have been tried and failed, all leading up to my resource box which is where the person needs to click to find the real answer (and of course, my offer).

Now, what is happening is that I am basically being told that I have to tell them what to do before they even get to the resource box! The whole point of doing the article marketing is to build to the point to get the click. And my articles rival a lot of others I have seen out there for content because I write ALL of my own so I know it is all original.

I feel as though I am being personally targeted.

Am I the only one having this problem? Has anyone else noticed an increase in problem articles?
#changing #ezinearticles #people #targeting
  • Profile picture of the author acrasial
    *I am literally about to hit my head on the wall* And I really hope that at this point you will have or are about to read my other post in the other thread directed at answering this exact question. But in the instance that you have read my post and are still frustrated.... I am very sorry for this:


    #1: You are willingly admitting that you write like a Scammer does.

    If you were just to look around this forum a bit, you will constantly see other warriors exposing scammers for their fraudulent ways, and this does not always mean taking people's money, but what is also discussed is DERIVATIVE content, and people who can't be consistent in their writing/sales copy.


    Those people then go on to not be trusted by various warriors, and therefore likely go on to not be trusted elsewhere outside of the forum as well.

    #2: Chris Knight (The Man who created and owns EzineArticles...yeh, it's his baby) is actually ON this forum.


    He MAY NOT always log in, and HE rarely posts here, HOWEVER he DOES read threads and posts on this very forum. So you are literally sitting here saying that you DO NOT want to have to write what your title says, and he might be reading this right now over his morning coffee. Not a wise move.


    #3: It's not a bad thing to have to write about what your title says!

    A little common sense may tell you that if you actually deliver what you say you are going to deliver, your conversions and other things will increase. People will actually want to buy the product, because your article will actually make sense, and they won't feel conned.

    Imagine this:

    You want to lose weight. So you head over to google and enter in "how to lose 10 pounds". So you review the first result there. And in that result it tells you nothing about losing 10 pounds, but rather just explains how easy that is, and how it can be done. You will think "man what a waste of my time!"...most people would feel that way!


    #4: People Like, AND LOVE to have their questions answered appropriately!

    You enjoyed my answer in the other thread, because it ACTUALLY answered your questions. It may not have discussed everything on the planet about your question, however, it at least left you feeling as if you moved forward and got something.


    HOWEVER, if you are not even willing to address the question in your title and answer it PROPERLY, your customers and readers will feel as though their time is once again being wasted and they will be disappointed.


    What happens then is they report that to EzineArticles, and also other competition may report your articles as well.


    That is why EzineArticles is starting to crack down on that. (Or at least that's a really light and sugar coated reason, which probably is not their real reason, but heck, let's fly with that for now, because you also need sales too, right?)


    #5: People LOVE free information.

    If you cannot grasp this concept, I'm not sure article marketing is for you. People search for articles online, to get FREE HELP, to get FREE INFORMATION. They are not exactly intending on spending any money when they first head over to your article, which means you better be willing to at least deliver on the information aspect if not anything else FIRST.


    How do you truly expect to be able to convince someone to click the link in your author box and truly buy the product you are selling or promoting, if you can't even answer their question, or cannot give them what they want: FREE information.


    Many internet gurus talk about this as well, the power of information, and especially the power of FREE information. Information is your friend here, NOT your enemy.


    They will NOT avoid buying your product, just because you answered one question. You can simply get smart and choose not to give the entire details of the answer, and nudge them to get the rest of the answer through your author box. You will have their interest and trust by then anyhow.


    AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE BEING PERSONALLY TARGETTED BY EZINE ARTICLES. But I wouldn't go so far as to say it's personal. IF you do the above, OF COURSE they will target you. You are literally portraying yourself out to be someone who is either a spammer, or someone who wants to flood EzineArticles with derivative content.



    And this is NOT my PERSONAL opinion of you, but it's my PROFESSIONAL opinion of what you have said above. I don't think you are a spammer, of course, but this is how your ACTIONS look to EzineArticles and to your readers. And that's not good for your reputation nor for your business.
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    • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
      Let me make one thing perfectly clear. I AM writing the content based on the title.

      So you can stop beating your head against the wall. :p

      I just responded to your other thread and the reason I posted a new thread was that I was trying not to hi-jack that thread because it was based on a different question. Hence, I posted my issue here.

      My articles are all written by me. Not outsourced and not spun. I have a title. I write the article based on the title.

      EVERY WSO that is written here on article writing has taught me the same thing. When you write, you give good content but you don't give away the store.

      If you are selling that ebook on how to lose weight, do you put all the contents of the ebook into the article? NO. You put some tips and ideas (which is what I do in my articles) and then lead them to get the rest with your ebook or sales page or website or whatever the hell it is you are trying to market.

      I am glad that Chris reads this forum. Having people like him on here is what makes this a good place to be.
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    • Profile picture of the author grandunionsupreme
      Originally Posted by acrasial View Post

      *I am literally about to hit my head on the wall* And I really hope that at this point you will have or are about to read my other post in the other thread directed at answering this exact question. But in the instance that you have read my post and are still frustrated.... I am very sorry for this:


      #1: You are willingly admitting that you write like a Scammer does.

      If you were just to look around this forum a bit, you will constantly see other warriors exposing scammers for their fraudulent ways, and this does not always mean taking people's money, but what is also discussed is DERIVATIVE content, and people who can't be consistent in their writing/sales copy.


      Those people then go on to not be trusted by various warriors, and therefore likely go on to not be trusted elsewhere outside of the forum as well.

      #2: Chris Knight (The Man who created and owns EzineArticles...yeh, it's his baby) is actually ON this forum.


      He MAY NOT always log in, and HE rarely posts here, HOWEVER he DOES read threads and posts on this very forum. So you are literally sitting here saying that you DO NOT want to have to write what your title says, and he might be reading this right now over his morning coffee. Not a wise move.


      #3: It's not a bad thing to have to write about what your title says!

      A little common sense may tell you that if you actually deliver what you say you are going to deliver, your conversions and other things will increase. People will actually want to buy the product, because your article will actually make sense, and they won't feel conned.

      Imagine this:

      You want to lose weight. So you head over to google and enter in "how to lose 10 pounds". So you review the first result there. And in that result it tells you nothing about losing 10 pounds, but rather just explains how easy that is, and how it can be done. You will think "man what a waste of my time!"...most people would feel that way!


      #4: People Like, AND LOVE to have their questions answered appropriately!

      You enjoyed my answer in the other thread, because it ACTUALLY answered your questions. It may not have discussed everything on the planet about your question, however, it at least left you feeling as if you moved forward and got something.


      HOWEVER, if you are not even willing to address the question in your title and answer it PROPERLY, your customers and readers will feel as though their time is once again being wasted and they will be disappointed.


      What happens then is they report that to EzineArticles, and also other competition may report your articles as well.


      That is why EzineArticles is starting to crack down on that. (Or at least that's a really light and sugar coated reason, which probably is not their real reason, but heck, let's fly with that for now, because you also need sales too, right?)


      #5: People LOVE free information.

      If you cannot grasp this concept, I'm not sure article marketing is for you. People search for articles online, to get FREE HELP, to get FREE INFORMATION. They are not exactly intending on spending any money when they first head over to your article, which means you better be willing to at least deliver on the information aspect if not anything else FIRST.


      How do you truly expect to be able to convince someone to click the link in your author box and truly buy the product you are selling or promoting, if you can't even answer their question, or cannot give them what they want: FREE information.


      Many internet gurus talk about this as well, the power of information, and especially the power of FREE information. Information is your friend here, NOT your enemy.


      They will NOT avoid buying your product, just because you answered one question. You can simply get smart and choose not to give the entire details of the answer, and nudge them to get the rest of the answer through your author box. You will have their interest and trust by then anyhow.


      AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE BEING PERSONALLY TARGETTED BY EZINE ARTICLES. But I wouldn't go so far as to say it's personal. IF you do the above, OF COURSE they will target you. You are literally portraying yourself out to be someone who is either a spammer, or someone who wants to flood EzineArticles with derivative content.



      And this is NOT my PERSONAL opinion of you, but it's my PROFESSIONAL opinion of what you have said above. I don't think you are a spammer, of course, but this is how your ACTIONS look to EzineArticles and to your readers. And that's not good for your reputation nor for your business.

      It seems like she's screaming at the guy...totally unnecessary. But anyway, EzineArticles obviously wants you to post some quality content. It's not towards you personally, they just want the Chris just wants the value of his site to increase.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Here's a workaround...

    Use titles that promise a set number of tips or action steps. Follow-through in the article to provide that exact number. The "trick" is how you end the article. Tell readers that for the "really powerful" action steps/tips/ideas, visit your blog/site and here's the link.

    EX: 3 Weight Loss Tips You Can Put Into Action Today

    Give out 3 pretty good but not great tips. Common sense stuff. Build up to your resource box by mentioning that there is another really good idea at your blog/site that clinches it.

    EX: This isn't all you need to know. For some little known secrets to sustainable weight loss and to get a free report on how to lose weight faster (and keep it off), visit my blog now. [Make some of the keywords in this links to your blog.]

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I discuss the problems with losing weight and other things that maybe have been tried and failed
      There are thousands of articles that do that - just ramble on about how it's hard to lose weight and diets don't always work, blah blah

      The whole point of doing the article marketing is to build to the point to get the click.
      The point for EZA is to publish articles that are interesting and deliver the information promised in the title.

      John is right - structure your articles so that you are delivering exactly what is highlighted by the title.

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    • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post


      Give out 3 pretty good but not great tips. Common sense stuff.

      John
      Ok, this is exactly what acrasial is saying NOT to do (on the other eza post). Not to use common sense stuff/basic stuff that everyone knows, or "derivative" content.

      And this is actually part of what I have been doing...giving tips or techniques that may or may not be common knowledge.

      Obviously I am just not "getting it".

      I am grateful to all of you for your replies. (even you too acrasial)
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      • Profile picture of the author acrasial
        Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

        Ok, this is exactly what acrasial is saying NOT to do (on the other eza post). Not to use common sense stuff/basic stuff that everyone knows, or "derivative" content.

        And this is actually part of what I have been doing...giving tips or techniques that may or may not be common knowledge.

        Obviously I am just not "getting it".

        I am grateful to all of you for your replies. (even you too acrasial)

        OK, what I am saying, you are not getting. What he is saying, you get. So, let me see if I can try this one more time:


        As mentioned in the other thread, the niche you are in is a very hot niche. And hot niches are taking a hard hitting over at EZA with the editors. They are being EXTREMELY picky with the hot niches (such as the weight loss niche), because people were literally submitting crappy articles on a rampage until the niches were literally so flooded that your article wouldn't even stay on page one for longer than an hour.


        Therefore, EZA said WHOA!!!! SLOW DOWN HERE!!! and said: LISTEN EVERYONE, you either do such and such and such, otherwise you won't be allowed back into these niches!


        Since you are in one of those niches, you will find it the most difficult challenge to get things approved on EZA.

        NOW, since they (THE EDITORS) have viewed millions of articles on eza related to weight loss, they probably have seen many of the same tips come up over and over and over again. So it's ingrained in their mind when someone is submitting content which is similar to content that is already existing on EZA.


        Therefore, they will make their nose go up in the air and will snottily tell you that your article doesn't meet this standard or that standard, like the prudes they have become. THEN, you get frustrated and wonder why they are discriminating against you.


        But they also tell you what you need to stop doing in order to get your articles approved. It of course, isn't ideal, and may not be the easiest thing for you...


        The thing they told you is to make your title match your content. Therefore, FOR NOW, instead of changing your content entirely, as we don't know if it's your content just yet *(Since they haven't specifically said this)...all you need to do is read through your content, and match the title directly to what your article itself says.


        So until they directly say it's your content as well, just make the article title matching. REMEMBER THAT YOU CAN STILL BE CREATIVE WITH YOUR TITLES EVEN IF IT'S ACTUALLY DISCUSSING/DESCRIBING THE CONTENT IN QUESTION!

        For instance:

        If your content is about the problems people encounter with weight loss, make your title like this:

        The Top 3 Problems You Will Encounter When Trying To Lose Weight!

        (there you go, title matches the content, and the answer to the title is in the content)


        If your content is about using cardio to lose weight make your title like this:

        The 4 Best Cardio Exercises Which Burn Fat Quickly And Effectively!

        (there you go, title matches the content, and the answer to the title is in the content)


        If your content is about dietary habits to lose weight (such as what foods to eat to burn fat), make your title like this:

        The Perfect Weight Loss Diet Plan- 4 Foods Which Can Help You Melt Away The Fat!

        (there you go, title matches the content, and the answer to the title is in the content)


        If your content is about tips for losing 5 pounds fast (and you can keep your current diet), make the title like this:


        How To Lose 5 Pounds in 7 Days Regardless Of Your Diet! (*or use However many days were listed in your article

        (there you go, title matches the content, and the answer to the title is in the content)


        If your content is about different supplements which can be taken to help aid in weight loss, make your title like this:

        Weight Loss Supplements? The Top 5 Weight Loss Supplements Which Are Proven To Give Results!

        (there you go, title matches the content, and the answer to the title is in the content)


        If your content is about cellulite and getting rid of it, make your title like this:

        Can't Get Rid Of That Cellulite? Try This Tip To Finally Get Rid Of That Ugly Cellulite!

        (there you go, title matches the content, and the answer to the title is in the content)


        If your content is about Weight loss tips for women, make your title like this:

        Weight Loss Tips For Women- The 3 Things Which Will Help You Finally Shed The Extra Pounds

        (there you go, title matches the content, and the answer to the title is in the content)


        If your content is about exercise equipment to lose weight, make your title like this:


        How To Lose Weight From Home- The Best Inexpensive Exercise Equipment Which Will Destroy Your Fat!
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        • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
          Originally Posted by acrasial View Post


          NOW, since they (THE EDITORS) have viewed millions of articles on eza related to weight loss, they probably have seen many of the same tips come up over and over and over again. So it's ingrained in their mind when someone is submitting content which is similar to content that is already existing on EZA.


          Therefore, they will make their nose go up in the air and will snottily tell you that your article doesn't meet this standard or that standard, like the prudes they have become. THEN, you get frustrated and wonder why they are discriminating against you.

          This whole post was great acrasial (thank you), but I wanted to mention something about this part.

          Last week, one of the articles was rejected 3 times before being accepted on the 4th time.

          At that point I just wanted to get the damn thing published. So what did I do? Instead of writing something from me, I went out and found someone else's content (derivative), reworded it and put it in the content.

          Blamo, accepted.

          Ironic, yes? Great conflict...yes.

          Anyway, sorry for sucking so much time from you guys this morning. The frustration just got to me and I needed some insight. :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author acrasial
            Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

            At that point I just wanted to get the damn thing published. So what did I do? Instead of writing something from me, I went out and found someone else's content (derivative), reworded it and put it in the content.

            Blamo, accepted.

            Ironic, yes? Great conflict...yes.

            Welcome to the world of EZINE ARTICLES. Like I said, I am not saying that they do not accept crap.


            You could write something completely original, new, and fresh, and they just won't accept it. Then some other bozo writes a 295 word article not even discussing anything about the title, and somehow that was MAGICALLY APPROVED.


            So I feel your pain there, and heck, what you did by using the content they already approved is what some people are already doing anyways. But of course I have to outwardly say its a bad idea, because if I didn't, I might get other warriors coming in and literally calling me a crook of some sorts...lol.


            Kindof goes like that. There are the people who play the book and never seem to get screwed. Then there are the people who play by the book and get screwed...


            And then there are the people who never play by the book and never get screwed. And of course the people who never play by the book and got screwed for that.


            Unfortunately you are playing by the book, and are getting screwed. Unfair, but that's how EZA runs, it's a huge gamble now, kind of like the google dance, EZA has their own little dance now.
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            • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
              Originally Posted by acrasial View Post

              You could write something completely original, new, and fresh, and they just won't accept it. Then some other bozo writes a 295 word article not even discussing anything about the title, and somehow that was MAGICALLY APPROVED.
              This is exactly what happened. And the content had NOTHING to do with the title! That is why I have gotten so frustrated. It is almost like the closer I try to get to the title, the faster it gets rejected. But the farther away from the title the easier it is. :confused:

              To me, that sounds like scamming and that isn't what I was trying to do.

              Ok, time for me to go read all these older threads that are long but informative. Maybe I can figure out the best technique for me.

              Thanks guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    For example...let's say I am selling a weight loss product. I have a catchy title, but not one that says 'how to'. In the body I discuss the problems with losing weight and other things that maybe have been tried and failed, all leading up to my resource box which is where the person needs to click to find the real answer (and of course, my offer).
    Ahh ... well then that's the problem. They have to click the resource box to find the real answer.

    You need to give them the real answer in the article. Think of it from Ezinearticles point of view.

    They don't want people clicking into an article titled "How to lose 2 pounds of ugly fat in 4 days" only to find that it doesn't tell them how do lose 2 pounds in 4 days.

    That would be frustrating for the readers.

    So you need to do something like what Zeus66 says and then they will be happy to publish your article.

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  • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
    Thank you all for your replies.

    This has been enlightening for me in more ways than you can imagine. I do appreciate the tips and advice and will use them to learn from.

    Obviously I am not a good writer so I need to work on those skills. That is probably why I have been getting so many rejections.

    I don't appreciate being called a scammer when I am not.
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    • Profile picture of the author acrasial
      Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

      Thank you all for your replies.

      This has been enlightening for me in more ways than you can imagine. I do appreciate the tips and advice and will use them to learn from.

      Obviously I am not a good writer so I need to work on those skills. That is probably why I have been getting so many rejections.

      I don't appreciate being called a scammer when I am not.

      Not saying you are. You are taking this far to personal. That is the professional way of looking at it, when you want to know why ezine articles is targeting you "personally".


      Also, no one said you are a bad writer. I didn't say that, no one else did, and EzineArticles didn't either.


      But if you want to sit and write about everything but what the title suggests, that is what scammers do. They will write "how to make 10,000$ in 5 days" and will not deliver on that promise. I am sure you have seen those kinds of websites or articles or posts which do not deliver.


      It ticks everyone off. It's your choice on what your actions are, and if you want to go and say that I am directly calling you a scammer? Well then you are mistaken, as you asked why they seem to be personally targeting you, and that is the truthful answer as to why they are not giving you the green light.



      I also was a bit harsh up there, because Chris Knight is on this website, as mentioned. It just may not be in your best interest to be openly saying that you don't want to keep your content matching your titles.

      I was looking out for you, because that may not be in your best interest, and even told you how it LOOKS. I also mentioned that I don't personally think you are a scammer, or anything bad, but that is how it CAN APPEAR to the editors at Ezine Articles, especially if they were to read your ORIGINAL POST.

      Tell you what: Here is what everyone here is trying to tell you:

      Write about what the title says: PROBLEM REMOVED!

      Answer the question in your title: Articles GET APPROVED

      Keep the content consistent with your title: You won't lose!
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      • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
        Originally Posted by acrasial View Post

        Not saying you are. You are taking this far to personal. That is the professional way of looking at it, when you want to know why ezine articles is targeting you "personally".


        Also, no one said you are a bad writer. I didn't say that, no one else did, and EzineArticles didn't either.

        I am the one saying that I suck at writing. Wasn't meant to imply that anyone here said it.

        Hard not to take it personal when it is my own personal un-outsourced un-spun articles that are being rejected.

        That is why it is obvious. I personally wrote them. And wanting to actually deliver good content in the body is why I did so. So it is just the process of deducing.
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        • Profile picture of the author acrasial
          Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

          I am the one saying that I suck at writing. Wasn't meant to imply that anyone here said it.

          Hard not to take it personal when it is my own personal un-outsourced un-spun articles that are being rejected.

          That is why it is obvious. I personally wrote them. And wanting to actually deliver good content in the body is why I did so. So it is just the process of deducing.

          Read my post above. They are not being rejected based on your writing quality just yet. They are being rejected because the title is not as accurate as they would like. Make the title accurate, and they will get approved.


          I gave you a few examples above on how to do that so that it will get approved.


          Also, if the articles are rejected again (Which I doubt they will be), you can always ask the warrior forum again.



          BUT, what I forgot to mention, is the fact that WHENEVER your article is rejected for multiple things (ie, there are spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, title doesn't match, content is bad etc etc etc), they will put the article into the problem status with a message saying "CONTACT US".


          BUT, when your article ONLY has ONE thing wrong with it (or one area), they will list that specifically, as they have done with you, and have told you to match your article title to the body text.


          Therefore, just take a deep breath, match the titles, and resubmit them. They will be approved, and you will be happy...and can continue along down the long road ahead with your EZA
          encounter...lol

          (In other words, you don't have to worry about derivative content or anything else yet, as they haven't told you that is the issue, which means your content is just fine. The reasons I listed were mostly the main reasons why an article is not approved, especially lately, and it's not your reason yet, so don't worry about it. But, it's still good to know about all of these things, so that you don't encounter that in the future).

          I'm also not sure how long you have been reading threads on this forum for, because there have been a few warriors (reputable and respected) whose articles were not approved from time to time as well. They made posts and threads on here trying to find out why, or what they were doing wrong, but in the end EVERYONE ended up getting their articles approved, just by tweaking this or that.


          As with anything with marketing, sometimes you need to be able and willing to tweak things. Not because you suck, but rather because it's in your best interest.
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        • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
          Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

          I am the one saying that I suck at writing. Wasn't meant to imply that anyone here said it.

          Hard not to take it personal when it is my own personal un-outsourced un-spun articles that are being rejected.

          That is why it is obvious. I personally wrote them. And wanting to actually deliver good content in the body is why I did so. So it is just the process of deducing.
          Well, you know ... you should NOT say that to yourself imho! Negative self-talk can only hurt you. I can see you want to learn from this experience and that's great.

          Learn by all means, but just remember that from time to time, most people who are marketing on the web will sail a little too close to the wind. It's not a problem to anyone - you or eZinearticles - or, for that matter, any other content provider who does the same thing.

          You just learned where the line is; it's feedback NOT Failure. Adjust and carry on - you are in it for the long-haul.

          And good luck.

          Will
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  • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
    OH, and let me ask this one last thing...does it hurt your credibility to delete a rejected article and start over? One time they blocked me from being able to change the title. I didn't delete, and really try not to because I want to get to the point of it being right the first time.

    But is deleting an article a bad thing?
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    • Profile picture of the author acrasial
      Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

      OH, and let me ask this one last thing...does it hurt your credibility to delete a rejected article and start over? One time they blocked me from being able to change the title. I didn't delete, and really try not to because I want to get to the point of it being right the first time.

      But is deleting an article a bad thing?

      No it does not hurt your credibility (according to EZA). They also say that an article in problem status DOES NOT hurt your credibility, but what they FORGET to mention, is the fact that the EDITORS keep tabs on everyone there, so they have this list of things you do wrong with articles, and keep that list handy all the time.


      They can pull out that list whenever they want to be mean to you, and not upgrade you, they can also pull out that list whenever they feel like just being mean in general and not accepting your articles in a niche, or they can pull out that list whenever they feel like being a jerk and simply not accepting your articles.


      So I personally NO LONGER believe that them when they say it doesn't hurt your credibility, because it sure does when it comes to upgrades and future submissions, whether they admit that or not.


      However, as an author on EZA once your articles are approved...no one else will know about the things going on behind the scenes, such as articles not being approved, so it doesn't hurt your credibility with customers.


      The only thing deleting an article does is it truly wastes your efforts, and you cannot "resubmit" that article. A LONG time ago, I deleted about 500+ articles from EZA when I was first starting out.


      I didn't delete them because they were not approved, because they ALL were, but my boyfriend of the time didn't approve of the subjects, so I deleted them to please him.


      OF course that was a HUGE mistake, because I could have been earning a recurring income from them still, or I could have been getting them listed on google, or I could have been doing so much with them.


      So the only person it hurts, is you. And if your article goes into a problem status 4 times in a row, you may want to shoot them off a message asking them specifically where your article is wrong, or for them to pinpoint exactly what to change.


      That has helped me in the past too, for articles where I literally cannot find any errors or figure out why they don't accept it. Sometimes, I swear it's just that time of month for some editors, and in that case, send a message and ask them to SHOW YOU what's wrong with your article.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaveManTheCaveMan
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        Try something like this.

        The Number 1 Fat Burning Supplement ...PERIOD.

        Then write and article about water..

        How water helps fat metabolism..

        How water makes you feel full..

        How replacing soda with water can help someone lose ten lbs with no extra work...

        Then in your resource box say "See you really CAN lose weight.. if you like this weight loss article and want more easy to use simple tips check out ..URL.. for all your weight loss needs"


        You didn't give away the farm.. there's a MILLION other things you can talk about regarding weight loss.. and you can have CPA offers for supplements .. clickbank e books .. whatever you want on your page..

        There's a lot of ways to monetize and you still delivered good content in your article and delivered exactly what you promised.

        You did 3 of the most important things.. you gave results in advance.. if they replace soda with water they will lose weight... you heightened their interest by offering them more tips.. and you built trust by delivering on your headline.
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        • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
          Originally Posted by DaveManTheCaveMan View Post

          The Number 1 Fat Burning Supplement ...PERIOD.

          What about us fellas, Dave.
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      • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
        Originally Posted by acrasial View Post

        The only thing deleting an article does is it truly wastes your efforts, and you cannot "resubmit" that article. A LONG time ago, I deleted about 500+ articles from EZA when I was first starting out.


        I didn't delete them because they were not approved, because they ALL were, but my boyfriend of the time didn't approve of the subjects, so I deleted them to please him.
        ouch! I bet I can guess the niche...(evil grin)



        So the only person it hurts, is you. And if your article goes into a problem status 4 times in a row, you may want to shoot them off a message asking them specifically where your article is wrong, or for them to pinpoint exactly what to change.


        That has helped me in the past too, for articles where I literally cannot find any errors or figure out why they don't accept it. Sometimes, I swear it's just that time of month for some editors, and in that case, send a message and ask them to SHOW YOU what's wrong with your article.
        Actually my first reject I made the modification exactly to spec. It got rejected again so I emailed them. I didn't want to keep adding stuff that I 'thought' was right when they were looking for something different.

        The response was basically..."uh...you need to have what your title says".

        I actually copied the paragraph from the body of the content into the email to show them that it did meet the article title. Still wasn't good enough. So I just kept adding until they accepted. That article wound up being over 700 words when it was done. Way too long. OH well...
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        • Profile picture of the author acrasial
          Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

          ouch! I bet I can guess the niche...(evil grin)

          Yeh, but I had articles in many niches at the time, actually, so everything was deleted. I also personally write all of my own articles, so I deleted my own content that I had spent time to create.


          Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

          I actually copied the paragraph from the body of the content into the email to show them that it did meet the article title. Still wasn't good enough. So I just kept adding until they accepted. That article wound up being over 700 words when it was done. Way too long. OH well...

          Yeh, don't argue with cranky editors...lol. Just do what they say...that's what they want.

          I also don't think that you needed to change the article, but rather could have just tweaked the title until they literally finally caved in and accepted it.


          I mean there is always a way to make your title match your content, even if your content is only 300 words, or in some people's cases 250 words.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

        I don't appreciate being called a scammer when I am not.
        One of the dangers of working in "hot" niches is that they attract scammers, lured by the scent of easy money.

        If you do something that fits part of the profile, you'll trip someone's trigger and get a rejection.

        When you fly with ducks, sometimes you get shot at when duck season opens. It's not personal, although I sure understand why it feels like it. When your own original work gets rejected, it's kind of like a new parent having some stranger tell them their baby looks like it should be throwing poop at the zoo.

        I've been writing articles for EZA for several years, and I still get rejected sometimes. You have to remember that you are dealing with human editors, with varying levels of skill and experience, and that they won't always be consistent.

        You can either try to figure out what will work, or you can pull the article and post it in other places.

        FWIW, I have an alert set for the editorial guidelines page and I've been getting change notices almost daily lately as they tweak the language to say what they want it to say...
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

        I don't appreciate being called a scammer when I am not.
        One of the dangers of working in "hot" niches is that they attract scammers, lured by the scent of easy money.

        If you do something that fits part of the profile, you'll trip someone's trigger and get a rejection.

        When you fly with ducks, sometimes you get shot at when duck season opens. It's not personal, although I sure understand why it feels like it. When your own original work gets rejected, it's kind of like a new parent having some stranger tell them their baby looks like it should be throwing poop at the zoo.

        I've been writing articles for EZA for several years, and I still get rejected sometimes. You have to remember that you are dealing with human editors, with varying levels of skill and experience, and that they won't always be consistent.

        You can either try to figure out what will work, or you can pull the article and post it in other places.

        FWIW, I have an alert set for the editorial guidelines page and I've been getting change notices almost daily lately as they tweak the language to say what they want it to say...
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        • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          One of the dangers of working in "hot" niches is that they attract scammers, lured by the scent of easy money.

          If you do something that fits part of the profile, you'll trip someone's trigger and get a rejection.
          I think naivety can also make us look like scammers even when we are not trying to be.

          When you fly with ducks, sometimes you get shot at when duck season opens. It's not personal, although I sure understand why it feels like it. When your own original work gets rejected, it's kind of like a new parent having some stranger tell them their baby looks like it should be throwing poop at the zoo.
          OMG...this was so funny and I had a good laugh. Thanks, I needed to laugh at least once today after feeling so beat up.

          FWIW, I have an alert set for the editorial guidelines page and I've been getting change notices almost daily lately as they tweak the language to say what they want it to say...
          Is this through google alerts or the rss or what?
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          • Profile picture of the author acrasial
            Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

            I think naivety can also make us look like scammers even when we are not trying to be.



            OMG...this was so funny and I had a good laugh. Thanks, I needed to laugh at least once today after feeling so beat up.



            Is this through google alerts or the rss or what?

            You can probably subscribe to that, and as mentioned, they discuss on their blog a lot about their editorial guidelines. And the good thing about their blog, is that you can go there directly and comment/discuss and even COMPLAIN about their new implementations.


            And you can also have Chris Knight respond directly depending on how relevant, hard hitting, and important your comment(s) was/are.


            So that's another good thing about that blog I keep on telling you to go to.
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  • Profile picture of the author nikolaalx
    I am in the same situation. Please guys,tell me what to do?
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    • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
      Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

      Wow!

      It's easy to get approved with Premium.
      not..I am premium and buying the premium has NOTHING to do with getting articles approved. All it does is make the process faster. I knew that going in and that is all I was expecting.



      If you make the tip powerful and little known (you can find this info anywhere. Especially weight loss forums and places like 43 things)
      This a tad contradictory to me. Little known but that you can fine anywhere? LOL I guess the point is it may be known to me but not to my new readers, who I am trying to get. But EZA Editors have seen it ALL so they have come to know all the tips and it appears rehashed to them I suppose.

      Then, just write your bio box like so:

      "Loved that tip? Guess what? I Have XX MORE Tips Just Like That That Will Have The Pounds Falling Off Of You Like A 'Hollywood Wardrobe Malfunction!'"

      Pretty easy.
      Good stuff, thanks!



      EDIT: Additionally, one of the most powerful techniques is to combine the "tip" with something they already know. So, it's something they know + something they don't know = immediate branding as an expert.

      So, back to the weight loss idea:

      "You probably remember your mom telling you to chew your food as a kid. (Everybody has heard this, right?) Well, I bet you DIDN'T know that by chewing your food at least 45 times, you can actually lose weight!

      How? Because..."

      Then explain it for a few lines.

      I found that info by just looking around online. And I bet hardly anyone would know it.

      So, save this formula: something they know + something they don't = instant authority
      This is gold, thank you!
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      • Profile picture of the author acrasial
        Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post


        This a tad contradictory to me. Little known but that you can fine anywhere? LOL I guess the point is it may be known to me but not to my new readers, who I am trying to get.

        It will be in your signature, and that is generally still allowed on EZA. And yes, it is NEW to your readers. They don't know that there are 50 other websites with the same exact tips, because they are on YOUR article. Who cares if your competition is selling the same thing?


        Guk the competition, and do as the man says, make an extremely attractive and enticing author box so that the reader will have no choice but to desperately click and buy whatever product you are promoting/selling.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    EZA seems to be moving away from the older
    model of publishing semi-literate crap towards
    a model more in line with delivering on the
    promise in the title.

    Short answer: write better articles.

    Long answer: EZA has probably a million articles
    which try to tease readers with blah-blah drivel
    to click on the link "to discover the real secret to
    (making money, no fat, etc)." They've stated they
    don't want those kinds of articles anymore.

    What you do, if you want to get accepted, is write
    a good article and offer something more advanced
    at the bottom in the sig file... but don't play mind
    games with the reader in the article itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOPoints
    My virtual assistant uses Power Article Rewriter to spit out articles that Ezine seems to love. Like other have suggested, deliver on whatever title you choose. One trick seems to be to just focus on the emotional/mental stuff that's probably going on in the mind of a potential customer.

    "Why is it so hard to lose weight even if you really are trying hard?" would be one example of a title that someone who has repeatedly tried to lose weight with different diets has probably thought about or can relate to. They might click to read the article. Let the article body just be about being able to "relate" to how hard it is, talk about how food companies put weird stuff in the food that makes us remain hungry, etc.. and then hit them with your resource box.

    This may not work for you, but it works for me. And yeah, sometimes articles are rejected for whatever reason. No problem. There are dozens more cued up and waiting to be approved. Like others said, don't take it personally.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    EZA seems to be moving away from the older
    model of publishing semi-literate crap towards
    a model more in line with delivering on the
    promise in the title.

    Short answer: write better articles.

    Long answer: EZA has probably a million articles
    which try to tease readers with blah-blah drivel
    to click on the link "to discover the real secret to
    (making money, no fat, etc)." They've stated they
    don't want those kinds of articles anymore.

    What you do, if you want to get accepted, is write
    a good article and offer something more advanced
    at the bottom in the sig file... but don't play mind
    games with the reader in the article itself.
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    • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
      Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

      Yes, little known that you can find anywhere!

      People are L A Z Y.

      They don't want to spend 5 minutes digging through the net, they want it now.

      You can easily find little known tips/tricks that isn't apparent to the mass market. Just do a little digging and come up with 10, 20 or more and rotate them through your articles.

      Rob
      I think that may be part of my problem...

      I don't think like a lazy person. And I don't know that I can. When I want to know something I will spend hours and sometimes days to find what I need to know.

      Even when I posted this today, that was part of the research side of me kicking in trying to find how to 'fix' this problem. Didn't realize anyone would actually respond. But glad that you all have contributed.
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      • Profile picture of the author acrasial
        Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

        I think that may be part of my problem...

        I don't think like a lazy person.

        He's right, and potentially, that piece of information could help you out a lot, because that means your customers are lazy too. LOL. Which means the sooner you can answer their question, the faster they will buy your product, in essence.


        I also don't think that he was directing that at you, but rather was talking in general. It's a general common sense fact about human nature. People really do like things to come easy and simple, if they can get it that way.


        Of course if they cannot, some will accept it and will take on the challenge of the harder road, whereas others will simply just forget about it completely and will never ever win at anything in life.

        LOL, you also changed an article 4 times in a row, and even made it 700+ words just to get it approved. Others would have long since deleted the article, or left EZA or more depending on how bad the rejection made them feel.


        You stuck to your guns and tried to get it approved no matter what! Hopefully it has been, because I have the impression that it has been.


        That is NOT lazy.
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    • Profile picture of the author howinfo
      We do run " How To Become" career article directory and I must say I am with ezinearticles with this one.
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  • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
    He didn't mean I was lazy, he meant to think like the customers. That is the difficult part. That is the part that is the gold.
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    • Profile picture of the author acrasial
      Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

      He didn't mean I was lazy, he meant to think like the customers. That is the difficult part. That is the part that is the gold.

      Yup, lazy ol' customers. Works in your favor, however!
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        I use a free service called ChangeDetection.com. They monitor the page and when they detect a change, their robot shoots me an email with the url of the page that has changed and a link to a page with the changes highlighted.

        ChangeDetection - FAQ
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        • Profile picture of the author webwriter
          So far, my experience with Ezinearticles has been positive (knock wood).

          I love to visit that site to read and learn from various articles. The ones I want to read feature titles that intrigue me and get me to click on their titles. But time and time again, I've been disappointed because a few articles' contents don't match the titles, or the contents include a brief, vague match to a given title, while omitting the "meat." You're told to do something, for example, but not given important details. Such articles are a waste of time and lead me to believe that their writers submitted them just because.

          On the other hand, I've come across quite a few articles that are pure gold. I learn and benefit from them. I'll bookmark the truly special ones.

          Nuff said.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Could be the biggest problem is you are writing in a niche that is swamped with poor articles by people trying to milk what they see as a high profit niche.

          When you write in a niche such as that you have to write more informative and in depth articles so you won't be seen as a "drive by writer".

          It just takes some practice. Easiest way to edge into it is as suggested above with a 1,2,3 article or with one specific target point that appears in the the headline and is fully discussed in the article body.

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          • Profile picture of the author DonnaLeona
            Hi,

            I think this will help you understand and do well:

            What you want to do in your articles is help the reader have a complete solution to a SMALL part of the BIG problem.

            Every BIG problem like weight loss has a SMALL issue associated with it that can be solved easily.

            Tell them EXACTLY how to solve this SMALL part of their BIG problem using step by step instructions!

            No teasing or game playing. Really help them completely.

            Do some research on forums to find what bothers people and find a simple easy answer you can give.

            Since they STILL have the BIG problem they will click on your link to find out more about your ideas since you are such a brilliant person that has moved them forward to a solution to a SMALL part their BIG problem.

            Match all this to the title and you will be a winner and so will your readers.

            Easy all the way around and so much more effective.

            Best,
            Donna
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            • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
              You know the Term "Bah Humbug". It's a term about Christmas and how some people just want nothing to do with it.

              THere should be one made up for Ezine Articles.

              Maybe we could all brainstorm it now?
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  • Profile picture of the author PCRoger
    Sometimes I think you run into an editor that just happens to be ignorant on your topic.

    I wrote an informative article once about buying Canadian Junior Resource Stocks. As a former series 7 registered broker, I know what I'm talking about and was wanting to warn potential investors of the potential perils.

    But I'm not from Canada. They gave me the same thing about the location name. These companies are registered in Canada but an investor from anywhere might buy them.

    I just couldn't get it through this persons head that I didn't have to be from Canada to be writing about Canadian Stocks. Friends and neighbors of mine in Illinois buy them and (usually) lose money.

    I finally had to delete the article.

    Regards,
    PCRoger.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mountainmotorman
    Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

    Ok, my frustration level has hit it's peak.

    A couple of weeks ago I started writing articles on a particular niche. I also bought a premium membership because I didn't want to wait to get my articles out and wanted them reviewed right away.

    The first several went off without a hitch.

    Now, I don't know if they hired some new people or are just targeting me. But out of the last 6 articles I have written, 4 of them have come back as problems with the following...

    Then what happens is I go back and modify the article. Sometimes more than once. What I am learning is that they are requiring me to TELL people how to do what my article title says.

    For example...let's say I am selling a weight loss product. I have a catchy title, but not one that says 'how to'. In the body I discuss the problems with losing weight and other things that maybe have been tried and failed, all leading up to my resource box which is where the person needs to click to find the real answer (and of course, my offer).

    Now, what is happening is that I am basically being told that I have to tell them what to do before they even get to the resource box! The whole point of doing the article marketing is to build to the point to get the click. And my articles rival a lot of others I have seen out there for content because I write ALL of my own so I know it is all original.

    I feel as though I am being personally targeted.

    Am I the only one having this problem? Has anyone else noticed an increase in problem articles?
    When you get that CRAP from EZA and you know your articles are ORIGINAL and good quality--- You should do at least one of the following:

    1. Go to another major article directory with the original work--- Article Base for instance is one of many

    2. Get it on your own blog/site and drive traffic that way---

    3. Get it on a LOT of back link generating sites like the one in my WSO. See Sig.

    4. Re-write the article and try like hell for the idiots at EZA to accept it!

    Now that is 4 things you can do when you have issues with EZA... Make your choices by being informed!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author dyadvisor
    I am an Ezine platinum article. I can get up to 20 first page listings from Google (that go to EZA) for my various keywords combos with just one article.

    Authors without premium status get the massive amount of new editors that understand the rules their own way. Once they make up their mind for you to resubmit, they probably will reject your next 9 attempts. Delete, not rewrite - you have a poor editor.

    For results do this. I use the PR of EZA, plus the keyword pumping of headlines (70-80 characters) and first 250 characters of content. DO NOT follow their suggestions.

    Never use "how to" or "the 7 best ways" to start. Try something like this:

    Killer Headlines Sell: Kill Your Competition With Killing Headliners

    No word was used twice. Remember kill, killing, killer, killed are different word variations like headline, headliner, headlining are. This is not spamming. Write the next 200-250 words almost the same.

    AFTER this part spin your article with whatever you have containing the words headline and killer (or insert) Make the last sentence almost a duplicate of your headline.

    EZA uses you, now start using them.
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  • Profile picture of the author jecalvert
    Your article, for whatever reason, raised a flag. Now, your article, no matter how you have revised it, is still flagged and you continue to get the negative response. It's more to do with how the software filters the articles than anything else.

    I had a similar problem. I deleted the article, then reworked it and then resubmitted it. The filters saw a new article and gave the ok. Not a revision of the flagged article.

    Does that make sense? People are over analyzing the problem.
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