Why my sites are not selling?

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Hey guys my question is I have 2 sites atm up on flippa

http://flippa.com/auctions/88836/New...-BONUS-PACKAGE

and

www.roadstarmotorcycle.net - Website for Sale: Untapped Motorcycle Niche. Google Adsense. AMAZING Bonus Package -- Flippa

They are really quick google adsense websites that have embeded youtube videos directly on them. My question is. Did I set the Bin to high? What factors am I doing wrong?
Im EXTREMLY new to IM but im trying to establish a foot hold!

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    They are making no revenue and don't hold any SERP rankings so what use are they (thinking from the perspective of someone who might be interested in purchasing websites)?
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  • Profile picture of the author ashishthakkar
    - The first link is not working.

    - Second i think the domain is not that good.

    - Have patience and try selling on other sites as well.


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  • Profile picture of the author Always-A-Warrior
    I know why. The first one reads: Oops! Page Not Found and the second one has been seen thousands of times I mean the template or script. Selling a site is like selling fine wine. It comes with age and hardwork plus there's no REAL content but who knows you might get lucky.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruth P
    First thing I see is that they don't have unique content. With traffic and earnings, this might not matter as much, but I do find that Flippa buyers prefer sites with unique content.

    Also, I notice that your domain name keywords get few searches a month. Again, you don't always have to have good keyword domains, but it helps. And a domain without good keywords that doesn't have unique content to help it rank for other long tail keywords is probably seen less valuable in the eyes of buyers.

    Lastly, you seem to have $1 no reserve - put this at the start of your title "$1 NO RESERVE - " then the rest of your listing - help draw attention to this fact, as it's obviously a great reason for people to bid.

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  • Profile picture of the author veylo
    Hello Anthony,

    First thing, we are buy and sell established websites, if we see sites, with no revenue or no traffic, we straight away avoid.

    Buyers nowadays are only looking for traffic and revenue, the only time anyone would actually buy a new site is if it's a unique product or site.

    I can see yours is a template and would take us literally 5 minutes to build.

    I suggest you promote your site and get them traffic and revenue then sell.

    Site flipping had been ruined by sellers creating 5 minute sites, therefore no one wants to purchase a site, that they can literally make themselves.
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    • Profile picture of the author thebarksmeow
      Originally Posted by veylo View Post

      Hello Anthony,

      First thing, we are buy and sell established websites, if we see sites, with no revenue or no traffic, we straight away avoid.

      Buyers nowadays are only looking for traffic and revenue, the only time anyone would actually buy a new site is if it's a unique product or site.

      I can see yours is a template and would take us literally 5 minutes to build.

      I suggest you promote your site and get them traffic and revenue then sell.

      Site flipping had been ruined by sellers creating 5 minute sites, therefore no one wants to purchase a site, that they can literally make themselves.
      Exactly. Your site has to already be making money and have traffic so the buyer can continue to monetize it. As far as I'm concerned, nothing else matters. Not even unique content. It's all about $$$.
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    Originally Posted by Anthony K View Post

    Hey guys my question is I have 2 sites atm up on flippa

    jaguarcarsXJ.com - Website for Sale: New Car Site, bursting with potential, - NO RESERVE. GREAT BONUS PACKAGE! — Flippa

    and

    www.roadstarmotorcycle.net - Website for Sale: Untapped Motorcycle Niche. Google Adsense. AMAZING Bonus Package -- Flippa

    They are really quick google adsense websites that have embeded youtube videos directly on them. My question is. Did I set the Bin to high? What factors am I doing wrong?
    Im EXTREMLY new to IM but im trying to establish a foot hold!

    Thanks!


    Because they are not worth the money you are asking for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by Anthony K View Post

    Hey guys my question is I have 2 sites atm up on flippa

    jaguarcarsXJ.com - Website for Sale: $1 NO RESERVE - New Car Site, bursting with potential.GREAT BONUS PACKAGE! — Flippa

    and

    www.roadstarmotorcycle.net - Website for Sale: Untapped Motorcycle Niche. Google Adsense. AMAZING Bonus Package -- Flippa

    They are really quick google adsense websites that have embeded youtube videos directly on them. My question is. Did I set the Bin to high? What factors am I doing wrong?
    Im EXTREMLY new to IM but im trying to establish a foot hold!

    Thanks!
    No revenue = they are worth ZERO!

    You are trying to sell a business which makes no money. You won't find a lot of people getting interested in a dead horse

    If you publish how much revenue the site generates you can usually ask for like 5-8 times what it generates on a monthly basis.

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    • Profile picture of the author veylo
      Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post

      No revenue = they are worth ZERO!

      You are trying to sell a business which makes no money. You won't find a lot of people getting interested in a dead horse

      If you publish how much revenue the site generates you can usually ask for like 5-8 times what it generates on a monthly basis.

      Nick

      That's not exactly true nick, we recently lost out to a better bidder for a twitter site that sold for $250,000, we actually made a top bid of $150,000.

      This site actually made zero, yes zero. now the reason why we valued it so high is the site was a viral potentially huge, plus the traffic the site was getting.

      Because a site make's no revenue, doesn't mean it's worth zero, there are lot's of factors that can actually value a site, when receiving no revenue at all.

      We don't look particular at revenue, this is not our first port of call, we look to see how the site can be progressed in the future. (ways to grow etc..)

      Regarding the op sites, you will not get anywhere with template sites, they have been so many people saturate this kind of business, and plus it's so easy to create your own site in literally 3 minutes flat.

      The future in website businesses, is custom designed unique products, scripts etc.. not rehashed templates, with simple google adsense added.

      You won't make money from these.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
        Originally Posted by veylo View Post

        That's not exactly true nick, we recently lost out to a better bidder for a twitter site that sold for $250,000, we actually made a top bid of $150,000.

        This site actually made zero, yes zero. now the reason why we valued it so high is the site was a viral potentially huge, plus the traffic the site was getting.

        Because a site make's no revenue, doesn't mean it's worth zero, there are lot's of factors that can actually value a site, when receiving no revenue at all.

        We don't look particular at revenue, this is not our first port of call, we look to see how the site can be progressed in the future. (ways to grow etc..)

        Regarding the op sites, you will not get anywhere with template sites, they have been so many people saturate this kind of business, and plus it's so easy to create your own site in literally 3 minutes flat.

        The future in website businesses, is custom designed unique products, scripts etc.. not rehashed templates, with simple google adsense added.

        You won't make money from these.
        I agree with the twitter thing, even twitter itselfmakes no money at this time but it could make billions due to its status now as a leviathan especially if one of the bigger sites buys it.

        Also sometimes it doesnt matter about using a regular template if you have unique information people look for...wiki looks plain however it gets millions of page views every day simply because people want information.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOExpert104
    badboy_Nick , I don't agree with you, some sites have great potential , some don't, it depends though, but of course it would sell for less.

    Uhm maybe you put way too much info and they are lazy to read
    and they are expensive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Even if it is $1 a day that will galvanize people to bid...if a site is making $1 a day or so that means over a month it is $30...for a typical sale at 10x earnings after a year that means they have started making profit on their investment.

    Wouldn't it be awesome if you could simply buy a good website from a seller who setup everything for you, gave you 100% after sale support, then also gave you all the tools you needed to make the website a success?
    This would bother me the most, why didn't you spend some time making it a success yourself?

    Right now it is turnkey, and that usually means the buy price is much lower than what you have at BIN

    And you have 320 searches, not 6600...the search you should be doing is EXACT

    Your whole sales patter that talks about completely irrelevant crap shows you don't really know what you are doing, it is okay to not know...just don't make the mistake of assuming others don't know...

    People know about blogging for cash, and web 2.0 and SEO and CPC...just get on with it! lol

    My point is that people who are searching for sites to buy are only interested in one thing, how much money will this make them and how they can scale it up but they need to know that it actually makes money in the first place, forget about teaching them anything else...just focus on what you are selling and the benefits of that only.
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      I would also worry about the domain name for the jaguar site. You might find that Jaguar hold the copyright.

      If you search on flippa, I think you'll find that most start-up domains sell for around $50 - $70 unless there is something particularly special about them or they have obvious potential.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Sites that make money sell better for sure, but you can sell brand new sites with no traffic or revenue.

    The thing is that in order to sell a new site that is not earning it has to have a killer design. Your sites do not have that, so I think they are priced too high.

    It actually looks like you didn't put much effort into the site at all and I think buyers can see that.

    Plus, your sales letter is all about you. Every paragraphs starts with "I". Buyers want to hear about them.

    Sorry to sound harsh but if you want to get $350 for the site you should drive some traffic to it and start it earning some of that adsense income, after all, according to your sales letter you are in expert in doing that so it should be easy for you, right?

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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Also, big mistake in making a site solely to show off your own bikes...lets face it here, can you really see people sometime in the future paying good money to buy a site called www.SparhawkeScratchingHisAssonYoutube.com?

    People are not interested in my ass, it is not all that pretty to begin with...if you had a menagerie of Beyonce, Yasmines and Avril's asses on youtube though I might be tempted for one.
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  • Profile picture of the author isha
    Hi,

    I think the BIN is too high. When I create start-up blogs the BIN is usually at $197!

    I suggest maybe designing it from a custom wordpress theme, and add some logo's etc! Some unique articles will also add value
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      They are cookie cutter sites, I could probably replicate them in a few hours so why pay $250-$300

      If I was buying a site from flippa I would look for several things. (also i would probably not buy from flippa or any other market place)This is what most people should look for

      The first thing.. does it have a keyword based .com domain name for a keyword with potential traffic. Thats a simple yes or no answer..if it's no i would walk away immediately.

      if it's yes then there are further considerations.

      1. is the site established

      2. does it have unique content

      3. does it have more than 5 pages

      4. Can i make a reasonable profit from it when i sell it.

      5. does it have relevant backlinks

      6. Does it have potential to rank at #1 in google

      Does it make any money, trust me that is waaaaay down the list. If it makes money then I would need to pay more .. give me potential over cash every time.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    .... and now someone else is selling the same type of site right here for $147. Must be some kind of a new plugin that does these youtube posts out!
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    • Profile picture of the author Anthony K
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      .... and now someone else is selling the same type of site right here for $147. Must be some kind of a new plugin that does these youtube posts out!
      Well, that site just sold D:
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    You can't just slap a site together, put it up on Flippa and expect it to sell. Just like any other product, the product has to have value to the customer. What will these sites do for the customer? Nothing, actually.

    They have no revenue, no traffic, aren't particular creative in design. Why would someone want them?

    Build sites that you are proud of, then get traffic and make some sales. You will be rewarded hundreds of times over in the price they will fetch if you treat it like a business rather than a "throw some crap up on Flippa for a few bucks" flipping model.

    Don't mean to be harsh, but that's the facts.

    In addition, everything Lee said about startups is true:

    Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

    Sites that make money sell better for sure, but you can sell brand new sites with no traffic or revenue.

    The thing is that in order to sell a new site that is not earning it has to have a killer design. Your sites do not have that, so I think they are priced too high.

    It actually looks like you didn't put much effort into the site at all and I think buyers can see that.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Well, that site just sold D:
    I see that - you should list yours over there(here) as apparently there is a market for them.

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  • Profile picture of the author InternetM39482
    As Suzanne said, you can't just slap anything on Flippa and expect it to sell.

    No traffic/revenue history, there are about 16(?) copies of the site and it doesn't seem to have that much, if any, potential at all. Buyers don't buy sites to stack their collection... they buy these to make money off these without having to do all the grunt work. If they don't see the potential to make money, they won't buy.

    I'd suggest you to check out what's selling on Flippa (hint, hint), reverse engineer WHY they are selling and do it yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    The sites that move fast are sites that are earning money, ranking in the SERPS, have unique content, etc... For more info. look at the sites that have recently sold ...rinse and repeat.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      This is a poorly veiled attempt to generate interest on the WF for sites listed on Flippa.

      Domains were registered 2-3 days ago so we're looking at sites that have been been online for 1-2 days.

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    • Profile picture of the author edlewis
      Obviously, sites that are making money are going to sell faster than sites that aren't.

      But that doesn't mean sites that are not making money won't sell....but in order to sell they need to offer SOMETHING to the customer. Like a professional design.

      Your sites offer neither.
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  • Profile picture of the author aa411853
    Not to mention that copyscape is showing 16 copies of the jaguar site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    I pretty much have to echo what everyone else said in this discussion. These types of sites belong on eBay with the other 97% of the trash there. Not to say that your sites are trash, but you can't expect to sell sites like these on Flippa.

    IMO (and I always say this), your name has to be SuiteJ to sell startups on Flippa now.
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