Important Question About Niche Sites (MFA Included...)

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Hey Warriors,

I am about to commence a new niche marketing project.

Situation:

I am going to have one main site for my niche keyword terms (for ex: stop smoking). So lets say my domain is www.stopsmoking4evar.com the index.html page will be a salesletter for an eBook (priced @ $17-$27), I will want to generated SE Traffic with long tail keywords using optimized articles.

My Questions:

1) Does this sound like a good model? Main page = eBook Product, Deep Pages = Optimized Pages for Long Tail / Easy Competition Keywords

2) What is the best way to go about articles for these types of sites now? I know they have many scripts that will generate the pages for you, but I hear a lot about niche auto-blogging now. Do blog posts rank better than static optimized HTML pages? Are blog posts more effective model now than the old HTML MFA (made for adsense) type sites.

Curious to hear everybody's responses.

Please contribute, I'm hiring out a worker today and am trying to get started ASAP.

Sincerely,
Craig Michaels
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  • Profile picture of the author backlinkking3
    Hey Craig,

    I like your setup, are you planning on adding some video content to the mix as well? As you probably are aware, people all see things differently so getting more ways of explaining your sales pages can only help. I would also have a hub page and squidoo lens to point at your main index. Since web 2.0 seems to be hot these days, having some authority sites linking will aid your cause too.

    hope that helps,

    cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    I wasn't planning on adding videos, but yes maybe I will make 1 or 2 pages (or posts if I go the wordpress route PLEASE PEOPLE let me know which - lol) with youtube videos embedded along with adsense ads.

    As for the sales process it will be like this

    root of domain = Salesletter
    directory for content = /blog or /articles (if I use wordpress I'll make it /blog if MFA style then /articles)

    The actual SEO aspect of the whole process will be handled via SENuke and manual labor, I already have a plan in the background for that process.

    Sincerely,
    Craig Michaels
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    Oh yes, I forgot to mention that I plan to release 1 of these sites per week and I will continue to market a site until it earns $1 - $3.00 / day on adsense, at least 1 sale a week, or a combined income of $30/week.

    Why? Because then I plan to flip the low-performers for $1000-$1500 and make a profit. I'll keep the sites that show a bigger profit potential for myself and continue to develop them.

    Sincerely,
    Craig Michaels
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  • Profile picture of the author ausslite
    Craig

    i like the wordpress model so much better these days. especially if you are looking into any automation. with all the killer plugins these days there is almost no reason not to do the blog.

    so is your internal pages set to gather SEO traffic and send to root page or is it set up as additional information for the purchaser of e-book?
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    • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
      Hello Tim,

      OKAY, I think I will go the auto-blog route.

      My Questions:

      1) What is a good auto-blog script? I plan to pre-load 30 days worth of blog posts, each post focusing on a keyword phrase (in the title). I will probably also submit the same article through a article marketing service (I forgot the name of one off the top of my head) to build backlinks back to an alternative blog post.

      2) Is there any specific themes for this concept? Perhaps themes that maximize Adsense earning potentials and then perhaps even room for affiliate recommendations thru banners?

      3) I have heard that static HTML pages rank better than blog posts. Would using a plugin for wordpress that converts the posts into .html pages be beneficial.

      4) Last but not least, is there anyway to include adsense ads automatically within the actual blog post (and it needs to be automated b.c the blog posts will be drip-fed through a script which I will search for)

      The traffic will probably end up on the blog post, in which case hopefully they will purchase my eBook (or click an Ad).

      Either way the objective is to flip the site if it has small earning potentials (~$30 or less per week) through Flippa, and keep it and develop it if its better than that.

      Still don't know if it sounds "sound". Really want a lot of warriors insights!

      Sincerely,
      Craig Michaels
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  • Profile picture of the author AllenD
    Craig,

    In my opinion, adsense is just a traffic leak. Why work so hard to get traffic to your site, only to sell it for pennies. A sales page should have just one link on it - "Order Now".

    As for the deeper pages, better to put affiliate products or CPA offer links there and make some real cash, if you don't just try to get traffic to YOUR sales page.

    3) I have heard that static HTML pages rank better than blog posts. Would using a plugin for wordpress that converts the posts into .html pages be beneficial.
    I have heard just the opposite. Are your references up to date?

    A blog is really the way to go. The search engines love blogs because they are interactive and link easily. If you can write interesting (and/or controversial) posts that get people commenting on your blog, you will get a lot more search engine love.

    Blogs are great for deep linking, too.

    It is easy enough to put adsense on the blog posts. Just put it in the sidebar, but like I said, there are better ways to monetize your traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
      Allen,

      The sales page WILL have only one outgoing link (order now)

      Oh yeah and affiliate pages (and disclaimers if applicable).

      The reason why I would use adsense to monetize traffic because
      it allows me to attack more niche markets. Why? Because I can
      target "non-buying" keywords and still make informational posts
      about it.

      Main purpose of adsense is to generate a small income. If I
      can generate a small income, I can flip the site.

      I want to make 1 site a week, flip 3/4 I make a month and keep
      1 as a winner.

      Sincerely,
      Craig Michaels
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      • Profile picture of the author Spencer Haws
        I would personally advise against going with an autoblog route. Original content will almost always outrank, reposted autoblog material. I have several autoblogs and I have tons of other wordpress blogs with fresh original content not posted anywhere else. My original content blogs do MUCH better.

        Your overall idea is a decent one and will work if you stick with it. But using an autoblog could kill the whole project...just my thoughts!
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    Red Fox,

    Sorry I failed to elaborate.... Maybe auto-blog is the wrong term?
    I want the content to be drip-fed over a period of 30 days but
    ALL CONTENT WILL BE UNIQUE.

    In this circumstance do you now think this model is even better?
    Can you recommend good adsense plugins for wordpress?

    Sincerely,
    Craig Michaels
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    • Profile picture of the author Spencer Haws
      Okay, if the content is unique and drip fed...that's AWESOME! Google loves FRESH and original content. This is a great model. And you dont need a plugin to drip feed your articles; just change the post date to a future date and it will post then.

      I personally use WhydoWork Adsense (do a google search) for some of my adsense placement. It makes it very simply to place Google ads across your site in great locations.

      Originally Posted by Craig.Michaels View Post

      Red Fox,

      Sorry I failed to elaborate.... Maybe auto-blog is the wrong term?
      I want the content to be drip-fed over a period of 30 days but
      ALL CONTENT WILL BE UNIQUE.

      In this circumstance do you now think this model is even better?
      Can you recommend good adsense plugins for wordpress?

      Sincerely,
      Craig Michaels
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by Craig.Michaels View Post

      Red Fox,

      Sorry I failed to elaborate.... Maybe auto-blog is the wrong term?
      I want the content to be drip-fed over a period of 30 days but
      ALL CONTENT WILL BE UNIQUE.

      In this circumstance do you now think this model is even better?
      Can you recommend good adsense plugins for wordpress?

      Sincerely,
      Craig Michaels
      Model looks good. By autoblogging do you mean the articles are going to be written by you or an outsourcer and just autoposted each day? In that case, go for it. If you mean autoblogging, by gathering info from other sites and spinning it, then boo to you. That just adds more crap to the internet and cheapens what real article marketers are doing.

      I think you're talking about the first option which is a great way to go about it. You should not only auto feed the blog posts, but you should reformat them to be videos and podcasts as well. This way you hit all three audiences, increase your traffic, and give your site more content with very minimal effort. With 100 articles written, reformatted, and drip fed, you can created a good foundation for sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    Okay Cool,

    Sounds like a plan.

    I'm ganna write up a lil marketing blueprint for
    myself to keep myself on track and I'll update
    you guys in this thread for my own accountability
    and maybe who knows, you might learn a thing
    or two =)

    Sincerely,
    Craig Michaels
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  • Profile picture of the author Escotk
    Why don't you have your sales page on one domain and the SEO stuff on another domain? Seems like a much better and safer strategy to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    @ Escotk - It's on one domain name so I only have to rank for the keywords once. Why would want I am doing be "unsafe". I will not be using pre-generated content, all will be written by hand. My SEO practices may be "aggressive" but I wouldn't call them dangerous. Like I mentioned earlier, I use SENuke.

    @ petelta - Yes all content will be unique and then drip-fed. Only thing is I will do it for 30 days (so 30 articles) instead of 100. Do you have personal experience with this business model? Would I be able to auto-ping and bookmark + rss submit my blog posts as well?
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Why don't you use your internal pages to market the ebook on your main page?

      Makes the most sense to me unless you find a killer offer related to your website that you want to promote...
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      • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
        Daniel,

        That is the idea in sort of a way.

        The blog will link back to the related eBook,
        people can buy it if interested. I can also
        make an income off of exiting traffic by
        having them click on it.

        I forgot to mention that the eBook that I use
        on the product page will be PLR.

        Not sure how much I will customize it yet,
        however once the site is earning a steady
        profit I plan to flip it regardless.

        Sincerely,
        Craig Michaels
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      That model is pretty much the basis for all my websites. If you are using WordPress, there are plugins to auto ping, and bookmark using onlywire, and auto submit to RSS feeds.

      I would take those 30 articles and reformat them into video and podcasts. It would only take a little extra time and be well worth the effort.

      Travis

      Originally Posted by Craig.Michaels View Post

      @ Escotk - It's on one domain name so I only have to rank for the keywords once. Why would want I am doing be "unsafe". I will not be using pre-generated content, all will be written by hand. My SEO practices may be "aggressive" but I wouldn't call them dangerous. Like I mentioned earlier, I use SENuke.

      @ petelta - Yes all content will be unique and then drip-fed. Only thing is I will do it for 30 days (so 30 articles) instead of 100. Do you have personal experience with this business model? Would I be able to auto-ping and bookmark + rss submit my blog posts as well?
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    Would you rank as good using an embedded video however than straight unique content?
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    • Profile picture of the author petelta
      Originally Posted by Craig.Michaels View Post

      Would you rank as good using an embedded video however than straight unique content?
      Your video traffic would mostly be coming from youtube or the other video sites. Even if your video is embedded from youtube and ranks on front page, you're going to see some traffic from it. It also gives your reader an option to watch the video on the same content rather then read.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Originally Posted by Craig.Michaels View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    I am about to commence a new niche marketing project.

    Situation:

    I am going to have one main site for my niche keyword terms (for ex: stop smoking). So lets say my domain is www.stopsmoking4evar.com the index.html page will be a salesletter for an eBook (priced @ $17-$27), I will want to generated SE Traffic with long tail keywords using optimized articles.

    My Questions:

    1) Does this sound like a good model? Main page = eBook Product, Deep Pages = Optimized Pages for Long Tail / Easy Competition Keywords

    2) What is the best way to go about articles for these types of sites now? I know they have many scripts that will generate the pages for you, but I hear a lot about niche auto-blogging now. Do blog posts rank better than static optimized HTML pages? Are blog posts more effective model now than the old HTML MFA (made for adsense) type sites.

    Curious to hear everybody's responses.

    Please contribute, I'm hiring out a worker today and am trying to get started ASAP.

    Sincerely,
    Craig Michaels

    This is exactly one model i am using on several of my sites.

    ALTERNATIVELY....you can actually leave out the whole sales letter, but put a prominent and eye catching banner on each site/page.

    Reason: If your DEEP LINKS getting indexed, people visiting your articles/deep links from Google...but dont see the sales page!

    My best two sites actually dont have a sales page *per se* but a custom made banner all across the site. This way, your site doesn't come across as that you simply want to sell something. But of course the banner is highly targeted at the audience and promises them a solution for whatever problem they have.
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