It Never Fails to Amaze Me

Well, I'm not in WF enough to know off the top of my head who you might be talking about, but it sounds like good advice! Over-sized egos are usually never a good thing. (Yes, Mom, I know "usually never" is a contradictory term.)

Couldnt have said it better myself.

Is it hubris?

Chutzpah?

You've got me curious about who these people are, admittedly.

Even rodents prefer not to poop where they eat.

John,

Thanks for the share and insight on this... I think I'm seeing a trend of this happening lately. I just finished reading, not but 15 minutes ago, about exaclty what you're talking about.

It's just a shame that there are people out there like this.

Something so simple that works in the offline world too damn good, I brought to the online world. Help others when help is needed. Don't "bash" the ones that need it the most, because I know most, if not all, were in that same position at one point.

Thanks again!

John, Would you mind PMing me a pointer to who this is and what they're saying?


Paul

Only a fool would do such a thing. Sad fact is that there are lots of fools in this world. O well, what you going to do. I sure will never be one of them as I think way too much of this forum. That is why I spend way more time here than I should.

Hey John,

I can agree to a point. I definitely would never want anyone to bash the Warrior Forum. It has been very good to me and really is one of the key components to getting me to where I am today.

But, I do warn all of my customers and all of my subscribers to stay away from the WSO section of the forum. The reason being is 98% of the offers inside of that forum are garbage. Almost every single person in there is selling how to make money products without knowing how to make money themselves.

The funny thing, is they will brag about it here in the Main forum and people actually congratulate them on it. I.e... "my first $300 day" and then the post goes something like this... I could never make any money online and then I opened up a WSO and made my first $300 day.

Anyway I will get off that kick. My point is this... if the author you are speaking of was giving good advice, like do not buy the garbage in the WSO forum then I have no problem with that. But, if he is bashing the forum just to bash the forum then that is probably a little wrong.

Side note- not all offers in the WSO forum are garbage.

Shannon

I have to agree...There sure will be these type of people exist in the world...One advice though, you shouldnt bite off the hand that feed you...that is both foolish and unethical.

Anyway, I have learnt much from this forum and I would not want to ruin the relationship I build around here either.

Egos with keyboards...great turn of a phrase!

Very well said and an interesting point. These people you refer to have the same personality type ...they are in the service of self and the ones that do success do it at expense of many. In the end, if they are lucky they are wealth but with no friends... except the ones that they can buy who are also in the service of self...vultures.

I have not been here for a long time even though I have been trying to find time to get here for a long time now, but honestly this is the best thing I have read in quite sometime. And no offense to others with awesome advice out there but when its "me me me win win win rich rich rich" it takes the point out of it from the real message that people are actually looking for with the help they need or possible the purchase they want to make.

As a new person to this forum I have attempted to catch up and read almost all of the new posts which is just not possible when its over 400+ at a clip and of the quickest ones that I close a tab out on are all the ones that are so over the top I can not get past the first few sentences. I really think these people are not getting it, even if an anvil fell on their foot as a subtle notice from the sky above. If a brand new person to this community like myself can see it, why can they not see it themselves?

Some people don't believe the old phrase "Don't burn your Bridges after you have crossed them!"

Take care,

Michael

This place is great. It is endlessly interesting to read and learn from. but you will always get people taking a piece of the pie where they see an opportunity and who are willing to tell utter untruths to get there.

Spot them, filter them out.

Completely agree John! Burning bridges here and in life ALWAYS comes back on those who do it.

it would be a long, long way to have a site to even remotely being competitive with the warrior forum

Little confused personally are you saying its wrong that they promote memberhsip sites here and them membership sites have a forum for them members. Or someone who goes out, creates an IM forum and tries to poach the members from here? Orr.. all of the above are wrong :p.

I'm not saying the Warrior Forum is the end all and be all. It's impossible for a gathering of people to satisfy the needs, wants and desires of each individual member. Hell, I challenge you to find a small tight-knit mastermind group that can achieve that. At best you'll eventually end up with a handful forums, memberships, masterminds and coaching programs that collectively provide what you're looking for.

What isn't cool is coming in here as a new member for the sole purpose of luring Warriors to your program. Or worse, hanging out here for a couple of years, using this forum as a primary source of income, then when you think you're big enough trying to convince your little group of followers that the Warrior Forum is sh!t and you are King.

If you really do think you've outgrown this forum, good for you. Show some integrity and stay the hell home. If you don't have what it takes to stick to your guns, your little band of followers will eventually come to understand your hypocrisy. And when you realize you're sitting on a throne in an empty hall, then come slithering back to the Warrior Forum, don't think that there aren't people waiting for your return who will out you in a minute.

John

Jan,

There is a good chance that people like the yokel you mention above, have been outed here on the WF for various infractions. Ultimately being permanently banned. Their purpose of course is to draw attention to what ever they have to offer, since they can no longer participate in the WF.

I also think they shoot their own self in the foot, because the majority of people who receive their junk may well do just the opposite of what they tweeted about.

Anytime a pea sized brain, lets his or her ego push aside what little common sense they may have, they often times step on their own tongue. and other things.

Thats my story and I'm sticking with it.

Ken

I remember back when Russell Brunson and Mike Filsaime used to post here.

Side Note-

I've noticed a lot of the warriors here that derive a lot of income of their wso's don't like to admit it for some reason. Hell, I'd be grateful for the forum and wso's if I had any just yet.

Of course they would still do well now that they have built up their lists (from running wso's) but it's almost like their ego gets in the way and doesn't want to admit that the warrior forum gives them half of their income, or that it's what started their six-figure business.

Why is this? I remember 5 years ago or so the amount of people that would still help in this forum even though there weren't any wso's. The only thing they got is a couple of links in their sig and a little name recognition. This was when Josh Andersen and BigMike and J-Mo, and even Filsaime contributed a lot even though they didn't have a lot to gain.

Now it's incredible that you could build such a business just by creating valuable content and running wso's.

P.S.

This forum has done wonders for Jeff Walker, Frank Kern, and John Reese too. After all, how would you spread buzz if there weren't a million threads about their upcoming launches.

Sadly, so often money+knowledge=ego

You win some and you lose some.

We can't control what is happening in some ways.

All I can say is that I have gained plenty of knowledge with Allen since the good old days ... it is my root of success till today!

This thread reminds me of something hilarious I stumbled upon yesterday or the day before. It was a Facebook group for people who have been banned from the WF, and they are all taking turns pissing on the WF, Allen, Paul, and a few other moderators and saying "the WF is for all the wannabe marketers" and blah blah, and yet their avatar pictures they look like low-income weekend warriors. Dont get me wrong, I dont make much outside my day job, but it was just funny that a bunch of pepole who are clearly not in the top 5% are calling everyone on the WF "wannabe marketers". It was hilarious, like a big circle jerk for losers. Pretty funny stuff.

Plain, raw greed. You do not tear your umbrella to pieces when it stops raining. It's utter foolishness.

People should learn to be original in all they do. Ethical businesses normally have a higher success and sustainability rate. Short cuts really don't cut in business. Values of creativity, hard work and respect for proprietary rights are values that every business must inculcate.