Is it possible to succeed in IM "part-time"?

You can definitely make decent money part time - but not with Adsense.

Don't waste yout time on a model that requires high levels of work and traffic when you could be more focused and build a solid business that you can grow properly with more predictable and scalable results.

Find a niche where you can create something valuable and focus on getting partners to help you get it to market. You can make a lot of money in a relatively short time if you have a product with a decent value that you know people want.

Most people fiddle around with things like Adsense and struggle with traffic generation when in reality traffic is easy to get once you have something people want.

The Adsense thing is way too low ticket for most people to make money from these days and you could spend months and waste your time.

My suggestion would be to keep up your efforts. Keep cranking out new marketing campaigns so you can create multiple streams of income. With the money you make you can start outsourcing so you can add more to your work load, while still doing IM part time.

Hope that helps

- Sam

To give my personal experience with IM, I started all of this working a full time job that required me to travel about 95% of the time. I spent about 10-12 hours a day doing my full time job work and put 2-4 hours of IM work in every night.

I did this for around a year and half bouncing from method to method like it sounds like you've experienced.

Today, I have quite a few successful websites in various niches that pull in on average $3,000 a site.

What made the difference was sticking with one system and doing it until it worked. Nearly every system on this forum is capable of making you an income.

You have to realize as quickly as possible that you aren't going to make money quickly. You are going to put in hundreds upon hundreds of hours and not see any return from it....not then anyways. Every one of us that have made a living from IM has put in this time with no early return. Trust me it's all worth it in the end.

It sounds like you are early in the game and honestly you have a lot to learn. Those hundreds of hours used not making money are going to be to determine what works for you. You have to learn the process. Once you find something that works, replicate. Stick to one system and master it. Make money from it then outsource it. Then you can move on to another system and implement in the initial business.

You've been doing adwords with no success you say. Test your headlines and text used with the adwords. Test the keywords you're using. Test your webpage design. Test the sales copy. Test the products. Find what your market likes. These are just a few of the necessary steps required to make money from any market.

After you learn, it gets easier and easier every market or project you do after that.

My first niche website took me over 6 months to develop and got 100 viewers a day to it. I made about 1 sale every 2 days after 6 months of not making a dime.

Now I have my system established and I can replicate that same process in under 30 days in multiple markets. This is mostly because I know exactly what steps need to be taken to get to my final outcome. I also have some funds now to outsource each of these steps, so I can get 3-5 websites going at once while I am just essentially a project manager.

Just stick with it. It is worth it in the end..I promise.

Travis

Jack,
It's definitely possible. I personally think if you start doing it part time you have almost as good chances to succeed as if you don't have any other job. That's because when you have limited time you tend to focus more and not waste it, while other scenario can be a dangerous "I have all the time in the World" scenario.

If you spend $700 on Adwords and get $500 on Clickbank that's great news. If you improve just 30% you're making small profit, and when you improve more you're already doing good.

It's much easier to improve than start something new! For example, if you were not building a list with those campaigns - you should start doing it. My guess is that if you just do a couple of follow ups properly you'll improve enough to get a profit.

Yes you can make money working part time. It takes time and will require effort and dedication on your part. My advice, try to find a unique product or service to offer online with little or no competition.
... Good luck

I think 99% of the people here started out doing IM part time, and many still do...

my advice is use a business model with assets you can leverage (like building a list and creating your own products) it may seem like a lot of work at the start, but after you have the initial list and a product or 2 created most of the work is done and it's easy to partner with other marketers and get them to send you traffic

Jack,
To answer your quick question: using affiliate links directly is not what Google likes. They slap you (through quality score) which means you're paying clicks more than you could have.
What you can do is create your own review page with an opt-in. Or, you can start by simply copying their sales page to your own domain, and having your own opt-in. (you would have to ask the owner for permission for that, or, khm, you might get away if you test this only for 2 days).
As you can see, you were doing great and there is a lot of space for improvement.
In any campaign you'll have keywords which don't perform well. You should delete them after testing. You should track by keywords and not stop the whole campaign.
So, get rid of what's not working, improve what's working...

Mind you, there are many people here who know much more about Adwords than myself. My point is that if you were having that kind of return on Adwords without extensive knowledge - you'll do really great if you focus on improving exactly that!

Hi Jack,

I've done very well with affiliate marketing while being a mother of 6 kids. Until recently one of my kids was home with me 24 hours a day, and I was making what many would consider a full-time income.

So I certainly did not do this full time :-)

At this point I have my mornings free with no-one home. So at this point I am working 4-5 hours a day, most days. But before that it was much less...

Hope that inspires you to keep at it.

Sara

Hmm, it sounds like you see this as a failure, but imo this is a great achievement, especially a great starting point... from this I would of (and indeed did) tweaked my adverts, tweaked my keywords, ditched things that werent working, kept what was, and tried other new things based on my new knowledge... also dropped some products which werent converting.... but mainly I think you should see this as your testing, and see what actually will convert... then instead of sending clicks straight to the vendor or via a redirected domain send them to your pre-sell / review site / SQUEEZE PAGE and get them all into a niche focused mailing list so you can mail them again and again with new info and related offers...

Oh, and doing a similar sort of thing with PPC but just hoping people click on your adwords ads... imo this is a step backwards... there is less focus there from you, less control, and even if it works for a bit the ads rotate, change, get removed, change prices... .it is just too inconsistent imo, and also generally historically I have made pennies on adwords compared to very healthy returns promoting affiliate products...

I think most people generally start out part time - I worked part time for 9 months+ without paying myself ANYTHING. I worked a few different jobs in this time period - bar job, warehouses, call centres, and would come home and "work" for 3-5 hours in IM - I probably did it to excessively and lost a lot of my social life during this time, but I learnt a lot and did become profitable within 6-9 months - and then shortly after 9 months I started paying myself and quit work... do it, focus, dedication, persistence, seeing success in every failure... do it

remembering back when i had a "real" full-time job, it would be 100% IMPOSSIBLE to do what i am doing right now.

BUT....if you have/had an EXACT plan, already laid out and know exactly what to do with your time, it MIGHT work. You could also outsource most of the work and focus on the things you need to do, without spending your valuable time doing tedious things.

Eg. you could spend a FEW hours doing keyword research and finding products, and then simply let someone write and submit articles, make sites etc. while you are at work

Yes I guess it's possible. There are many out there who do IM part time. They start of part time and some eventually make it their day job if their successful. I guess the most important thing is keeping going even when things are hard since starting something is never easy but you also need to evaluate your situation and potential returns instead of just diving full force into something with no potential at all which can be dangerous.

So at one point you want to preserver but you also want to evaluate the situation.

As to part time it's very common and also a common mistake is we tend to divert our attention to way too many things that our mind is all scattered so we can't create quality instead of quantity. It's so easy to digress and so common. Haha just like how I digress through out my reply...

Yes !!! Iam netting over $600 with about 2 to 4 hours a week ALL with Free Blogger Blogs. It takes time as it took me one year to break $100. And then another year to break $600.

Here is the run down for my March 2010 Earnings :
1.$339 (from adsense)
2.$180 from (Max Bounty and CPA Offers)
3. $75 FusionCash (Referral Commissin from Gpt Site)
4. $28 CashCrate ( Referral Commission from this Gpt Site)

Like I said these are Free Blogger Blogs with my own self- hosted Domains. I have moved six other Authority Sites to WP, but am not currently earning from them, YET !!!

I respect what some of these other trusted Warriors are saying but I must disagree a little. I started off part time doing just Adsense and if you stick with it you can Earn pretty good with Adsense alone. It is just a matter of consistently updating your Sites with new content and adding backlinks and using good Keyword density on your Content. And then Pinging it.

But remember to ALWAYS be sure to eventually diversify your streams of income on top of Adsense. Maxbounty and CPA Offers are a good place to start doing this along with some Affiliate Products.

Thats it in a nutshell !!

Hey Jack,

I would suggest starting with small business owners who need help ranking on page one of Google in their city. Research businesses with websites who are stuck on Page three and beyond and create and optimize a blog for that area like "plumber colorado springs".

That you you can learn how to optimize for specific keywords while creating a valuable piece of virtual real estate which you can ultimately rent out or sell.

Good Luck!

Hey Jack,

Funny how different people have different stories.

I started part-time in IM precisely with Adsense and with good profits. In a couple months I was profiting 2K from a couple of top ranking sites.

Long story short - what works for YOU, may not work for others. And vice versa.

Glad you're here and can test good methods without losing money.

Success is all about what you want. So with that being said it's always possible to succeed as long as you know what you want.

There are certainly ways for you to make $10 a day or even $100 if you apply yourself. I posted a thread that shows how writing 10 basic articles a day will make you around $20 a day. That adds up to $100 a week, or $400 a month, not bad for part-time work.

See thread here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...day-today.html


Another system you might want to consider is "The Amazon Method" I have another thread on this that show how you can write and publish a book and then if you are in need of fast cash, you flip the book. This can be worth an easy $100 in your pocket in days. If you did 1 a day, you can do the math here. My 10 year old actually did this and published a book and is selling copies, pretty cool.

See thread here: http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...eal-today.html

Hope that gives you some help to get moving in the right direction.

Many of my VideoForward members are making hundreds of dollars in Adsense part time just by sharing viral videos created by others.

any good offers to start with ? any advise

Hello Jack,

It is very possible to make a buck doing this part time. The first thing I would focus around is creating some type of product, ebook. Something you can sell rather than waiting on clicks for Adsense. You have to have a lot of traffic to make any money with Adsense.
Try a 12-15 page ebook on your favorite topic. It doesn't have to be perfect, just get it out there and try to sell something for $10. Write it in MS Word and save it as a PDF. Go to PayPal and create a "buy now" button and you are all set.

Most people try to make everything perfect in lieu of getting a product to market. Get it out there first and then refine it. This woudl be different if you were selling a $1997 product but for $10 write a good title and some good info and get going.

This really helped me as I would still be trying to make a couple bucks a day with Adsense if I had not created a product.

Best of Luck
Gregg

Hey Jack,

Absolutely, you can.

When I first started out, I did more reading than doing.

Eventually I decided I needed to get to work. PPC is what I focused on, Adwords to be precise.

The key word there is focused. When working part time especially, you really need to be on the ball, itemized, and know what you're going to do for those few hours that you have. If you build this sense of focus, being part time can sometimes keep you more focused because you know your time is valuable.

In about 2 months of working part time after months of reading and not much doing, I launched about 130 campaigns with mixed success. I then "figured it out", for me anyway.....

My results? I grossed a total of about $115,xxx in 3 months time running at around a 90-100% ROI.

I went full time after that and for a while my focus actually suffered.

But the point here is, YES, you can do it part time you just need to make that time valuable.

Here's a tip... a big key to this entire game is a winning offer. I know that sounds obvious, but really look at what I mean there. I've had campaigns running where the offer was dropped from the network, and my conversion rate went from 8-10% down to 3%. The offer is so important. Typically, the traffic source is not the issue, the offer is. If the traffic is real, as in real people, then you're just not matching the right offer to the traffic source.

How do you find a winning offer? There are tons of courses on how to find a winning Clickbank offer, and lots of info on the forums about that. In terms of CPA offers, having a good relationship with your affiliate manager really helps.

And the best bet? That would be creating your own winning offer. This takes a bit more time because being the advertiser, you will conduct split testing for the landing page to gauge conversion rates.

Anyway I really went off track there....biggest thing is your time management, make lists, and start knocking off your tasks. Stay focused on one thing at a time, this can be tough to do but it's essential.

Certainly you can succeed part time, you probably won't earn as much but you will also have a great time doing it and gain a great sense of achievement from it.

Hello Jack

You said submitted few articles to Ezine but in order to see some result from article marketing you need at least 35 articles to see some movement. Also you need to use a squeeze page and autoresponder if you want this method to be more effective.

Jamian.

I would respectfully disagree with Andy here. Adsense takes time, but a lot of the time involved is due to waiting to be properly ranked in the serps. The right niche can make over $50/month passively. I have more than one site that was developed years ago that bring in over $50/month and I have not done anything to them in years.

If you do not know how to choose the proper niches and keywords, then I completely agree with this statement. Adsense requires research AND patience. I would say that most people don't do the first and don't have the second. Now, I've had sites from way back before I knew how to research a niche and they still to this day earn $1/month max. It just proves that without the proper research, doesn't matter who you are, you'll flounder badly. I also have to point out that my views are a bit skewed since I've made big money from the Adsense business.

TomG.

PS - One of my sites that earns over $50/month has only ONE page of content, so more content by itself is NOT a guarantee of income.