Is there really big profits to be made in the public domain?

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I have been looking at the different directions i could take my business with as far product creation goes, i have been told the public domain is one of the most powerful places to go to as a source for products, can anyone shed some light on this, and how to approach this medium to create a product?

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  • Profile picture of the author Teresa Coppes
    There's a WSO that was offered on public domain: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ain-works.html

    Here's some more that were found using the search feature:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-can-sold.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...main-work.html

    Good luck to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Medway1
    There is masses and masses of public domain work to use. The important thing though is what you do with it, how you package it, how your product will be different from others, what can you do to add value to it? Just re-producing it is not enough.

    Give it a twist, bring it into the modern age and you have a product that stands out from the crowd.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    Simply reprinting 80 year old books is not likely to produce
    public domain riches. There's a lot more to it than that.

    Some of the lucrative areas include reproducing artwork and
    films.
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  • Profile picture of the author Boomachucka
    I'd say it depends on how you use it.

    If you can get something that's semi in demand/appears to have value, you can either sell it on it's own or use it as a bonus to supplement your own products. Or build a mailing list... etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author unsmashed
    Interesting idea - definitely a great source for content, although the same content could be used by someone else.

    Is there even a source of public domain things?
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  • Profile picture of the author cage73
    Originally Posted by John_Edwards View Post

    I have been looking at the different directions i could take my business with as far product creation goes, i have been told the public domain is one of the most powerful places to go to as a source for products, can anyone shed some light on this, and how to approach this medium to create a product?

    Thanks John.
    I agree with whoever told you that about public domain. Not knowing exactly what your business consist of makes it a bit difficult to tell you how you can utilize public domain works.

    I have been using public domain works for years now. I've created and sold all sorts of products ranging from short reports to cartoons and film on dvd to artwork on t-shirts and quite a few other products as well.

    I've also created entire niche blogs using nothing but public domain works.

    There is so many ways to use these works it blows the mind and can at times become a bit overwhelming only because the ideas on how to use these works just keep on coming.

    I've got a 150 page ebook, The Public Domain Profit Pulling Resource Guide, that should be able to provide you with the information that you are looking for. I'm running it as a Firesale WSO for the next 72 hours, you can check it out if you'd like... Public Domain WSO

    But yea, the public domain is a powerful resource that many people overlook.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Money can be made using public domain products, in CPA, site flipping, internet marketing for physical retail and service shops, selling information products, etc. But, if you try to chase three rabbits at once, you'll catch none.

    (If you're an animal lover you can just snuggle with the bunny once you catch it).

    To expand on how to make money with public domain materials, you can utilize stuff from public domain materials to create a new product to sell. If it is a recipe book, you can fix up the presentation and layout and maybe modernize older measurement terms (since some of them are basically extinct now).

    For some materials, you could create a video using something like Windows Photo Story, adding text to images, and add some public domain music to it. You could create an mp3 product of it. You might find it easier to do in areas that actually interest you, since effective marketing might involve chatting at forums related to a given topic.

    You can take bits and pieces of various public domain materials and put it together in new ways, like leggo.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by John_Edwards View Post

    i have been told the public domain is one of the most powerful places to go to as a source for products, can anyone shed some light on this
    ROI is calculated like this.

    You take the amount of money you made, let's say $500.

    You divide by the amount of money you spent building the product. Let's say $200.

    This gives you 2.5; you subtract one, giving 1.5, and multiply by 100 to give 150. That's a 150% ROI.

    But if you use a public domain product, you spend $0 on the product. So even if you only make $1, 1 / 0 = infinity. You get infinite ROI. That's more powerful than anything.

    And if you believe that, I can sell you a bridge.

    Don't get me wrong, the public domain is still a good source for products, but the emphasis on how great it is... well, it's disproportionate. It's a good source, but no better than any run-of-the-mill PLR source.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      It's a good source, but no better than any run-of-the-mill PLR source.
      My opinion is that that will vary with the niche. Obviously, some things have changed a lot in 50-100 years. I'm sure an old book on selecting a telephone for your home might not be quite up to par today. But, if it's an evergreen topic, then public domain materials are likely better than the run-of-the-mill PLR source.

      Basically, you've got material that's been vetted by someone, namely an editor and publisher. The author was very likely someone that really knew his or her stuff and was a real expert in the field. You may have to do some re-writing to bring the language up to today's standards (or down to today's standards as may be the more apt description) but the content itself may be pure gold.

      On top of that, if the public domain material you're working with is a second, third or later edition, then you've got something that was likely improved with reader feedback, expert opinion, critical reviews and additional experience. You've got something akin to battle-tested content.

      With a run-of-the-mill PLR source, you really don't know what you've got. It could be gold; it could be fool's gold.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        My opinion is that that will vary with the niche.
        Doesn't any PLR site's material vary by niche?
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    • Profile picture of the author nyrsimon
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      It's a good source, but no better than any run-of-the-mill PLR source.
      I respectfully disagree!

      I have never found free PLR material of the quality of PD - lets just take images - I can go get FREE images from great masters (plus the MILIONS of other PD artists out there) - I've never seen a PLR that can come close.

      Guys - PD is an amazing source. People think PD is just Gutenberg and the well known ones - there is soooooo much more....

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  • Profile picture of the author John_Edwards
    WOW spoilt for choice on this rich resource, thanks guys will bag up all the info and look into this resource, a better result for this thread than i thought!

    Cheers guys....John.
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  • Profile picture of the author Medway1
    The Science Of Getting Rich by Wallace Wattles. This was the book that an ordinary American lady, Rhonda Byrne, built her forty million dollar fortune around by turning it into a video version. It got picked up and a film was made from it, The Secret i think just a couple of years ago, so it's possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
      It's a good source, but no better than any run-of-the-mill PLR source.
      This is so untrue.

      Most public domain material is written to professional standards and is (or was, at least) interesting to the right audience.

      Most Private Label Rights material that I've seen is extremely boring, uninformative and written to mediocre standards (or no standards at all).

      Don't forget, also, that there are two major types of public domain information:

      1)old stuff no longer covered by copyright

      2)U.S. government material, often completely current

      Type #2 is often very well written and interesting, indeed.

      Marcia Yudkin
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  • Profile picture of the author Roxanne McHenry
    Google Books has ALOT of books in the public domain and you can switch to a text only display which helps on some old books. You'll never know what will work if you re-do/recycle/recombine content in the public domain.

    If you want to do some quick searches on Public Domain content try our KeywordSmash! | Access All Your Favorite Web Tools from One Place tool.

    It's free, no registration/sign up, no weird freaky tricks behind it. Click on the Public Domain tab, enter a kw phrase and select the sites you want to search.

    The tool will open each site in separate tabs, so you may have to change permissions in your browser to allow that.

    Otherwise, enjoy!!
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    • Profile picture of the author John_Edwards
      Hey Roxanne,

      That sounds like a nifty tool, it`s one i have never heard of, i`ll have to check that one out!

      Cheers for the heads up....John.
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  • Profile picture of the author BBAkwe
    PD is a goldmine for those who know how. I looked into it in the past so I might revisit it after reading more on it because this thread has enlightened me.
    Does anyone know a cheaper ebook to start with before buying Kneb Knebaih's ebook? It seems to be the authority WSO in PD.
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    • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
      Originally Posted by BBAkwe View Post

      Does anyone know a cheaper ebook to start with before buying Kneb Knebaih's ebook? It seems to be the authority WSO in PD.
      Google search:

      david vallieres public domain - Google Search

      Shop around and you can probably find the David V. public domain
      stuff for a song. He sold the reseller rights a while back.
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      • Profile picture of the author John_Edwards
        Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

        Google search:

        david vallieres public domain - Google Search

        Shop around and you can probably find the David V. public domain
        stuff for a song. He sold the reseller rights a while back.
        Sounds great, i hear theres an internet marketer by the name of Avril Harper, who considerably favours the public domain anyone heard of her?

        Cheers....John.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nigel Greaves
      Originally Posted by BBAkwe View Post

      Does anyone know a cheaper ebook to start with before buying Kneb Knebaih's ebook? It seems to be the authority WSO in PD.
      Check out Gary's WSO, but be quick it's due to finish any time now. It's 151 pages of ideas and resources for using PD.

      In the interests of clarity let me state that I have no connection with Gary other than as a customer.

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  • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
    Originally Posted by John_Edwards View Post

    I have been looking at the different directions i could take my business with as far product creation goes, i have been told the public domain is one of the most powerful places to go to as a source for products, can anyone shed some light on this, and how to approach this medium to create a product?

    Thanks John.

    You can get tons and I mean tons of killer content, for product creation via PDs. Do understand that majority of the top-notch marketers, also pretty much know about PDs as well. You Have to grab a PD material and put a twist on it, in order to be successful.

    The competition is fierce when it comes PDs and your product has to different, unique or else you'll be like everyone else and your profits will not be there. KNEB has a good WSO, I was one of the first to review it and it has lots of good information in it.

    Study the laws that pertain to the piece that you find, make sure it is 100% in the PD or else it can cause you lots of issues.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sonomacats
    Avril's material is good. I also picked up material from Pirates of the Public Domain which covers everything in depth - tons of PDFs and videos. I think they're having a sale right now and can honestly recommend their products and their newsletter. Plus, they're really nice people.

    The trick with PD is still one of picking a niche that wants your information and then using the PD info to put products together for it. It's a lot better written than PLR and there's a ton of it out there, so you'll have a lot to work with. It's easy to get overwhelmed with the information, so start with just one niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author tribros
      Public domain materials can make you a fortune but only if you know how to utilize it. It's all about USP...
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  • Profile picture of the author JBorhez
    When I first got into IM I built a website offering nothing but public domain material. Anything published before 1923 is in the public domain. You can re-package and sell all works from that era. Anything goes before 1923. After that there are certain guidelines like whether or not the author renewed publishing or not.

    It seems to me that the best way to use public domain material and have it be relevant today is to gather the information from it and create your own product.
    There are certain topics that are timeless but for the most part a lot of it is obviously outdated. I guess it depends on the niche.

    One of my first affiliate offers was for a public domain product called Public Domain Riches. I actually own it so if you have any specific questions I can refer to it and give you my best answer.

    Yanik Silver's Public Domain Riches: "How To Legally 'STEAL' Free Public Domain Content and Sell It As Your Own Profitable Product"

    Other resources: Main Page - Gutenberg
    Sources for Public Domain and Free eBooks
    Public Domain Resources
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Es
    i think these theme is generally bogus. this appeals to the newbies that are suckered into the "get rich quick mentality" of internet marketing.

    aside from Yanik Silver, I'm not aware of anyone else claiming to have done that well with old public domain stuff.

    realistically there's just not a bunch of "gold" in old and outdated books...
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    • Profile picture of the author cage73
      Originally Posted by Jay Es View Post

      i think these theme is generally bogus. this appeals to the newbies that are suckered into the "get rich quick mentality" of internet marketing.

      aside from Yanik Silver, I'm not aware of anyone else claiming to have done that well with old public domain stuff.

      realistically there's just not a bunch of "gold" in old and outdated books...
      The public domain isn't a get rich quick sort of thing, it takes work to find and re-produce public domain works into a profitable product.

      Your right though, there isn't a bunch of gold in old outdated books, but these books have the potential to become gold based on what you do with those old outdated books. Besides, the public domain is so much more than just a bunch of old outdated books. It cracks me up when I hear people say that because they obviously don't realize the full potential the public domain has to offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author tj
      Originally Posted by Jay Es View Post

      i think these theme is generally bogus. this appeals to the newbies that are suckered into the "get rich quick mentality" of internet marketing.

      aside from Yanik Silver, I'm not aware of anyone else claiming to have done that well with old public domain stuff.

      realistically there's just not a bunch of "gold" in old and outdated books...
      Ever tried it???? I could tell you otherwise from a lot of our clients. Actually one build an Imperium in their niche ( and no it is not Yanik Silver ) and sold their business for a million amount of $ .

      Timo
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    • Profile picture of the author nyrsimon
      Originally Posted by Jay Es View Post

      i think these theme is generally bogus. this appeals to the newbies that are suckered into the "get rich quick mentality" of internet marketing.

      aside from Yanik Silver, I'm not aware of anyone else claiming to have done that well with old public domain stuff.

      realistically there's just not a bunch of "gold" in old and outdated books...
      Dude, there are MANY examples of people making LOTS of money

      An entire publishing company? Kessinger Publishing - Rare Reprints of Hard to Find Books

      You did do extensive research before you made such a sweeping statement? Right?

      Simon
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  • Profile picture of the author rlharding
    Jay Es,
    I am sorry for laughing, but........your kidding right?

    Check this out if you want to know if there is money in PD.

    http://www.thoughtrocketpublishing.com/affiliates/idevaffiliate.php?id=50100

    Yes, it has my affiliate link, you know what to do if you want to access without it.

    I am in the middle of a major PD project and I wouldn't be spending any time on it if I thought there was no 'money' in it. Yes, I hope to make some money, but most of all I am just overwhelmed by all the ideas I have for using PD. I just don't have enough hours in the day to do it.

    Also, check out Gary's WSo in the post above. It is a no brainer at his special price. If that doesn't give you some top notch ideas for using PD then go over to Kneb's WSO and spend even more money. He is releasing a new version tomorrow and coaching next week.
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    So much knowledge here. Thanks for the sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    You can make money re-publishing books that are relatively
    current but out of print. Just contact the author, agent
    or family and ask.

    In some cases you can get the rights for nothing in exchange
    for a share of the profits. It's not like PD where you keep
    all the money and are answerable to no-one

    Making money with publishing is all about the marketing. Many
    books worthy of a readership today don't have one due to
    limited marketing. You can correct that situation. Authors
    with a major publishing house get as little as $1 for each hardcover
    sold, so if you put their book on PDF and pay them $5 per unit,
    some would be delighted to do business with you.
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    • Profile picture of the author John_Edwards
      Hi,

      I like that idea, that sounds like its a matter of researchin gthe market first for what in demand then building a product to supply to it from the PD!

      John.
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