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Unread 13th April 2010, 09:11 PM   #1
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Default What Kind of Questions Do You Ask?

You know, of all the people new to Internet Marketing who come here, I think I can predict who will experience some success relatively quickly and who will struggle for a long time.

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By the kinds of questions they ask.

Some people get what it takes even though they don't yet know what it takes. What that means is they understand that they have a lot to learn, they have a desire to learn, and they ask thoughtful questions that lead to the kind of answers that further their knowledge and take them closer to their goal of a successful online business.

Then there's the other kind of newbie. They ask questions that don't further their understanding of Internet Marketing. They ask what I'd call "cocktail party" questions. They are conversation starters and nothing more. They do not lead to the kind of answers that take them closer to their goals, if they have goals.

If you want to succeed - in anything - you have to ask good questions. I've seen quite a few "cocktail party" questions lately. Questions that really don't belong in this forum, they belong in the off topic forum. But this isn't a rant about that, it's just a wee bit of advice from someone whose been around the block quite a few times...

If you want more success, ask better questions.

If you ask silly questions you get back friendly banter that doesn't help you earn money. If you ask better questions you get back answers that help further your knowledge base and move you one step closer to your goal.

Your choice. Which do you want, success...or an online cocktail party?

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Unread 13th April 2010, 09:15 PM   #2
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What does friendly banter mean?

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You're absolutely right, Dennis. A smart guy once told
me that successful people aren't the ones who have all
the right answers... they're the ones who have all the
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Small talk.

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You're absolutely right, Dennis. A smart guy once told
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That's an excellent point. It reminds me of another smart guy who made a similar comment about leaders. Leaders don't have all the answers, but they know where to find them.

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Ummm... Dennis? That WAS friendly banter...

Excellent point, by the way. For the smart person, every answer brings more questions.


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Ummm... Dennis? That WAS friendly banter...

Excellent point, by the way. For the smart person, every answer brings more questions.


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Hmm...okay. Switching from the serious nature of my post to subtle humor isn't my strong suit, apparently. I hereby request George Wright only uses absurd humor when he's the first one to comment after my post.

Just kidding, we all need to laugh at ourselves from time to time, I guess I was due.

I agree with what you said, too, Paul. I think it was Albert Einstein who said, "The more I learn, the more I realize I donít know."

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I came to this thread because I saw someone wrote "cocktail party" and brought my martini shaker......

In all seriousness, I tend to agree with you Dennis. When someone asks a very specific question, you can usually tell that they're taking action and trying to implement something as opposed to someone who asks a question like "what do you think about guru A using this tactic?" or "what's more important traffic or sales copy?".

One of my favorite chapters in AWAKEN THE GIANT WITHIN is the one on asking better questions. When one asks better questions they tend to come up with better answers. Now, I've got a question.....where in the heck did I put my 144 oz. coffee mug?

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I'm really digging all your mindset advice lately, Dennis. You're nailing it with this one. I notice myself picking out newer faces here all the time and I tend to categorize by "gets it" or "is clueless." And I don't mean their level of knowledge at all. As you say, it's about the quality of their questions and what those questions say about the person's priorities and their mindset. Great post!

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RoD, you left your mug at the last cocktail party. If you sign up to my mailing list I can get it back to you for just $29.95 for shipping and handling. Mostly handling.

I've been meaning to read Awaken the Giant Within for a long time. I actually checked the audio version out of the library a few months ago after being on a waiting list to get it, only to have my CD player crap out when it did come in. I've got a new player, but now I'm on a big waiting list again.

And yes, those are representative of the type of questions I was talking about. I actually started to post a similar reply in one of those threads and decided better of it, not wanting to single any one person out.

@ John - ...and as I'm sure you've also noticed, it's a lot easier to help the ones that get it.

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Dennis said,
Your choice. Which do you want, success...or an online cocktail party?

I'll have a Harvey Wallbanger light on the Galliano .

Seriously Dennis, you nailed it as usual.

When I was teaching, after the lecture (we used to lecture in the old days) students would come up and say, "I don't know how to do this problem."

I would say, "What is your question?" Some would turn around and walk away. Some would stare at me like a deer caught in the headlights. Some would think for a minute and actually ask a question. As time went by they caught on.

I wasn't there to solve their problems. I was there to help them learn to ask the right questions. Sometimes it worked.

So Dennis, rather than standing here like one of those dumb ass deer caught in the headlights , (which is my normal going-through-life state) let me ask you a question.

I'm coming to you as a complete newbie who wants to begin in affiliate marketing. In no more than 20 words, what is the single biggest mistake I am likely to make?

Second part, where's my Harvey Wallbanger guy?
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One of the hardest things to get across is when you try to get someone to realize that they are asking the wrong questions.

They often feel as though we are trying to tear down their attempts to carry out an ingenious plan.

Usually leads to those "veterans against the newbies" discussions.

Only a handful get that their plan was built on faulty assumptions and a shaky foundation after doing a little listening.

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Mike, can I take a stab at it?

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So Dennis, rather than standing here like one of those dumb ass deer caught in the headlights , (which is my normal going-through-life state) let me ask you a question.

I'm coming to you as a complete newbie who wants to begin in affiliate marketing. In no more than 20 words, what is the single biggest mistake I am likely to make?

Second part, where's my Harvey Wallbanger guy?
How about...asking me for advice!

Oh, you were serious? OK. First let me say that I mostly market my own products. Affiliate products are a secondary income for me. Second, I can think of several likely mistakes. Third, 20 words isn't much to work with, but I like a good challenge, so... Fourth, I'm going to sum it up in a one-word answer:
Research
Most newbies fail to do useful research on several levels. They don't research keywords, products, reputations, sales copy, sales page leaks, their own list or website visitor's likes, dislikes, interests and tendencies, etc. Nor do they research the best ways to lead people to their affiliate links. That's partly the merchants fault. So very many only offer a some stinking graphics or text links, few offer any training.

I made the same mistake most merchants do when I first started an affiliate program. Didn't have a lot of success with it. When I relaunch my affiliate program it will be way different from what most merchants do. There will be training, better sales material including brandable free reports, courses, and ebooks to give away, and so on.

In other words, my first failure at running an affiliate program was treated as feedback. I've learned from it, and will improve it greatly the next time around. I've even bought a separate domain just for affiliate training.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. How'd I do, teach? Speaking of teaching, I wish I'd have had a teacher like you when I was in school. Not a one taught me to think, at least not in a way I understood it as such. I'd have probably been one of your students that just stares at you like a deer in the headlights. The thing is, I'd have kept staring at you until you gave me a clue or ran me over. I did learn how to memorize what they wanted to hear though. Yay rah.

Oh, lastly, will you settle for a Miller Lite? I've got a cold one here for you any time.

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One of the hardest things to get across is when you try to get someone to realize that they are asking the wrong questions.

They often feel as though we are trying to tear down their attempts to carry out an ingenious plan.

Usually leads to those "veterans against the newbies" discussions.

Only a handful get that their plan was built on faulty assumptions and a shaky foundation after doing a little listening.
Some truth to that, Matt, but they need to hear what they need to hear. Some just need to hear it a few more times than others do.

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Here's my thoughts on this. I hope btw I exemplify this thought! This forum has some great information. Better information than I have ever paid for before. I respect that so most of my questions come from trying to learn more about ideas that are presented and while doing research needing some clarification. Someone mentioned something a few days ago about people wanting the "secret". To me, the secrets are all over the forum but imo if I am too lazy to even look for them and do my due diligence for getting information then who am I to ask anyone anything?

I would like to add though that I'm bringing olive juice cause I be likin my martinis super dirty! I wanna be successful and have good cocktail parties-is that too much for a girl to ask for? hehe
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Kelly, one of the things I've noticed about you is that you're eager to learn and you ask the specific kind of questions that demonstrate you're taking action. That means most of the time you're probably going to get the kind of answers that help lead you to success.

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Kelly, one of the things I've noticed about you is that you're eager to learn and you ask the specific kind of questions that demonstrate you're taking action. That means most of the time you're probably going to get the kind of answers that help lead you to success.

Thanks Dennis that's a nice compliment. And I hope you are right about the success part!
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Thanks Dennis that's a nice compliment. And I hope you are right about the success part!
Whether I'm right or not............................................... is up to YOU. :p

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I'm going to sum it up in a one-word answer: Research

Was hoping you said that Dennis. Thank you!
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Since Dennis cheaped out on his answer to my original question with a one-word answer I want to get even with him. Click on his "Almost A Newsletter" link in his sig file and look for his free
"Keyword Basics" ebook on his site. He told you the key was in research--so learn how to do the research with his ebook. Let's burn up his bandwidth with downloads. It really is good--I'd grab it for free before he comes to his senses. --Mike
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I'm going to sum it up in a one-word answer: Research

Was hoping you said that Dennis. Thank you!
The Miller Lite? Don't open it yet, but keep it cold!

Since Dennis cheaped out on his answer to my original question with a one-word answer I want to get even with him. Click on his "Almost A Newsletter" link in his sig file and look for his free
"Keyword Basics" ebook on his site. He told you the key was in research--so learn how to do the research with his ebook. Let's burn up his bandwidth with downloads. It really is good--I'd grab it for free before he comes to his senses. --Mike
Actually I kind of explained why that was my answer, it wasn't a complete cheap-out!

Just wanted to add that the ebook you referred to is listed in the first bullet point so anyone that wants it won't have to hunt. It will be there for another 2-3 days until the next issue goes up, then it's going to be offered as a special report for $10.00. So the "free" availability is about over.

PS - I'm keeping the beer cold for you, but after 30 days that service goes to $17.00 a month.

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I haven't had a question a search didn't answer...

Wonder what that means?

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I haven't had a question a search didn't answer...

Wonder what that means?
In your case it means you're self-reliant, know how to frame your searches, and know how to ask questions that give you the answers you need. If everyone were like that, posts like my OP wouldn't be needed.

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Thanks Dennis. A great common sense post.

As an IM newbie I read this forum and marvel at two things:

1. The lack of patience demonstrated by many novices. This seems to be generally accompanied by a propensity to flit from one "sure-fire" idea to another with the hope that something will happen fast.

2. The lousy advice some non-novices are willing to dish out for the sake of another click on their signature.

Gotta love the "3 Things All Newbies Need..." type posts.

If a novice clearly has no idea how to do keyword research, they probably don't need to build a squeeze page, or add more affiliate links to their poorly performing page.

Anyway... thanks for the good post. Nice to read stuff not full of B.S.

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Thanks Dennis. A great common sense post.

As an IM newbie I read this forum and marvel at two things:

1. The lack of patience demonstrated by many novices. This seems to be generally accompanied by a propensity to flit from one "sure-fire" idea to another with the hope that something will happen fast.

2. The lousy advice some non-novices are willing to dish out for the sake of another click on their signature.

Gotta love the "3 Things All Newbies Need..." type posts.

If a novice clearly has no idea how to do keyword research, they probably don't need to build a squeeze page, or add more affiliate links to their poorly performing page.

Anyway... thanks for the good post. Nice to read stuff not full of B.S.

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It's easy to see where the lack of patience comes from . . . they've read too many "get rich quick" messages and still believe them. They will learn in time - some quicker than others.

While some non-novices probably dish out advice to get signature clicks, I think most people are genuinely trying to help others, they just happen to believe things that aren't true. Maybe that's the optimist in me coming out, or that I like to believe most people are good at heart, but that's the way I see it.

You're right about the keyword research. It's really the first thing most people should learn.

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i ask 1 question daily in this forum and i get good answers to further succeed in IM, and yes i ask IM questions only,

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Good post Denis I think I ask the right sort of question, apart from when sarcasum kicks in of course. What I was taught quite recently actually, about year ago now, was to always ask "why". If you ask "why" most of the time, you already know the answer to your own question, or by asking "why" you are able to search for the answer for that question and find the answer much quicker.
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Good post Denis I think I ask the right sort of question, apart from when sarcasum kicks in of course. What I was taught quite recently actually, about year ago now, was to always ask "why". If you ask "why" most of the time, you already know the answer to your own question, or by asking "why" you are able to search for the answer for that question and find the answer much quicker.
Lee, "why" is a good question to ask. It's one we ask a lot as children, which drives our parents nuts, and that often results in us learning to stop asking why.

Knowing the "why" behind something often gives us a much better understanding of it, allowing us to make better use of the knowledge. For example, I may know I'm supposed to put a keyword in my title tag, but if I don't know the reason for it is because it's a search engine optimization tactic, I may not realize I should also use keywords in my page text, image names, image alt tags, directory names, and so on.

Of course, we still have to ask "why" about the right things or we haven't come that far from being an annoying little kid.

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The biggest problem I see for the newbie is that when you ask the "good" questions, you don't get "good" answers.

For example, Dennis, you say the biggest problem is research. What does that mean?

Let's boil it down to just a LITTLE part of the problem. A newbie doesn't do keyword research well enough. How can he do it better?

"Um, well, you have to, um, there's this buying keyword thing... you have to examine commercial intent... you find the keywords that, um, the numbers should look like this... you'll get the hang of it eventually..."

WTF? How do I find them? It sounds like the answer I just got was a bunch of smoke blown up my arse about "just keep doing whatever you're doing and eventually you'll magically figure out that you're doing it wrong and fix it."

What are the good questions? Well, the ones that get answered with "download my viral ebook" or "opt-in to my list" or "buy my product" or "join my coaching program" - those are the good ones.

I suggest that the people who are going to succeed in IM aren't necessarily the ones who ask the good questions, but the ones who stop asking questions altogether once they see enough answers from the community at large.

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Caliban, if you'd seen the questions I read that prompted me to start this thread, you'd understand why I did. Some of the questions aren't even IM related. I don't want to single anyone out as a "bad" example, but they go something like this:
Which is more important, working or relaxing?
Asking questions like that isn't going to get you closer to your IM goals.

On the other hand, some newbies ask very specific questions. You can tell by their questions they are taking action, they are trying to help themselves first, and are stuck at a specific place. They ask specific questions and they get answers that are directly related to their problem.

You make a good point, but your example represents a general question that gets a general answer. The question can be broken down in more specific questions that will yield more specific answers. If you ask me, a person that is asking general questions isn't doing much to help themselves first, before they ask. Go Google "keyword research" and get a background, then come back and ask specific questions.

It just isn't that hard to get a decent background on any IM topic by using a search engine. Then come back here ask specific questions about what you don't understand.

Help is available, but they have to try to help themselves as well. No one is going to hold their hand and walk them through every step of everything they need to know. That's the problem for a lot of newbies, they want all the answers handed to them and aren't doing much to help themselves.

In this business, if you're waiting for all the answers to be given to you, you'll be waiting a long, long time. It's not a business for the lazy. Don't expect others to help when you're doing little to help yourself.

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It's funny Dennis - I get many requests for help each week and I know right away by the type of questions whether I should work with that person or not.

One thing I look for to know if someone will really use the help I would give them is to see if the questions they are asking are "Action-oriented" questions. If I get many questions about high-level things, then I most likely have a dreamer, but not a do'er and that person will be no farther ahead 6-months from now than they are right now - not matter what information they get.

Other questions are more specific showing evidence of trying different things - that is the type of person I don't mind helping because I know they are not adverse to digging in and trying things out for themselve.

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I would say, "What is your question?" Some would turn around and walk away. Some would stare at me like a deer caught in the headlights. Some would think for a minute and actually ask a question. As time went by they caught on.

I wasn't there to solve their problems. I was there to help them learn to ask the right questions. Sometimes it worked.
Mike I could not agree more. I used to do the exact same things to my students when I taught in public schools. And I STILL do it with my girls and homework. If I give them the answer they'll never learn, I can provide the means for them to find the answer, but I will never solve their problems. And that is one of the biggest mistakes most newbies face, they want others to solve their problems.

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I made the same mistake most merchants do when I first started an affiliate program. Didn't have a lot of success with it. When I relaunch my affiliate program it will be way different from what most merchants do. There will be training, better sales material including brandable free reports, courses, and ebooks to give away, and so on.

In other words, my first failure at running an affiliate program was treated as feedback. I've learned from it, and will improve it greatly the next time around. I've even bought a separate domain just for affiliate training.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. How'd I do, teach? Speaking of teaching, I wish I'd have had a teacher like you when I was in school. Not a one taught me to think, at least not in a way I understood it as such. I'd have probably been one of your students that just stares at you like a deer in the headlights. The thing is, I'd have kept staring at you until you gave me a clue or ran me over. I did learn how to memorize what they wanted to hear though. Yay rah.

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I think those of us who last through the initial trial stage of IM learn from our mistakes and actually try NOT to make them again. Most beginners will fail and settle for the failure. Now Dennis, you probably would have liked my class as well. : ) Actually, since it was public school you probably would have been the only one liking my class.

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In your case it means you're self-reliant, know how to frame your searches, and know how to ask questions that give you the answers you need. If everyone were like that, posts like my OP wouldn't be needed.

AGREED... Dennis if you notice, everyone that has commented on your post has been around for a while. And the two or three newbies that have commented are like Kelly, who ask questions with content and substance.

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If you ask me, a person that is asking general questions isn't doing much to help themselves first, before they ask.
Why should they?

Imagine that I have a question. You're standing nearby, and chances are very good that you know the answer. Why would I go out and try to answer my own question, when I can just ask you?

After all, I have other things to do. If I am designing a website's graphics, and then I will need to write articles, and before I write articles I need to do keyword research... why not send out an email or forum post asking how to do better keyword research?

When I am done with the graphics, I can check for answers, and it took me no time at all. I have saved all that research time for writing the articles. I outsourced the research to the forum, and paid nothing for it. Nobody had to respond; they volunteered. If nobody volunteers, I'm no worse off than I was, and I can go do the research.

This may not be the way you like to work, but that doesn't make it wrong.

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I don't want to single anyone out as a "bad" example, but they go something like this:
Which is more important, working or relaxing?
Shoot. Well, there goes my next topic:

"Can anyone here prove that the square root of 2 is irrational without using proof by contradiction?"


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Of course. Everyone knows the square root of two is borscht, and you certainly can't call that rational.

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Why should they?

Imagine that I have a question. You're standing nearby, and chances are very good that you know the answer. Why would I go out and try to answer my own question, when I can just ask you?

After all, I have other things to do. If I am designing a website's graphics, and then I will need to write articles, and before I write articles I need to do keyword research... why not send out an email or forum post asking how to do better keyword research?

When I am done with the graphics, I can check for answers, and it took me no time at all. I have saved all that research time for writing the articles. I outsourced the research to the forum, and paid nothing for it. Nobody had to respond; they volunteered. If nobody volunteers, I'm no worse off than I was, and I can go do the research.

This may not be the way you like to work, but that doesn't make it wrong.
Why should they? Because it's their freaking life and their freaking business. It's called personal responsibility.

You can invent as many what-ifs as you want - I've got other things to do, too. Why should I take time out of my day to do for you what is your responsibility? Show me you've tried to help yourself first so it doesn't seem like I'm wasting my time. I'm not responsible for your business, your goals, your aspirations, your understanding, your time management, your problems or your anything else. If you think I should be you have serious problems.

If someone wants my help, they need to ask the kind of questions that will get the kind of answers that help. You said it yourself, one of the problems is that they're not getting good answers. Then ask better questions! To be able to ask better questions, you may have to take some initiative and do some research on your own. Wow, what a concept!

That may not be the way YOU like to work, but that doesn't make it wrong either. I prefer helping people I believe will actually use my help to help themselves. Lazy Mary need not apply.

I don't see you answering highly generalized questions with the kind of depth you're suggesting. Perhaps you should lead by example?

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It's funny Dennis - I get many requests for help each week and I know right away by the type of questions whether I should work with that person or not.

One thing I look for to know if someone will really use the help I would give them is to see if the questions they are asking are "Action-oriented" questions. If I get many questions about high-level things, then I most likely have a dreamer, but not a do'er and that person will be no farther ahead 6-months from now than they are right now - not matter what information they get.

Other questions are more specific showing evidence of trying different things - that is the type of person I don't mind helping because I know they are not adverse to digging in and trying things out for themselve.

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Now Dennis, you probably would have liked my class as well. : ) Actually, since it was public school you probably would have been the only one liking my class.

AGREED... Dennis if you notice, everyone that has commented on your post has been around for a while. And the two or three newbies that have commented are like Kelly, who ask questions with content and substance.
Jenny, I didn't say I would have liked Mike's class. I hated school. I said I wish I would have had a teacher that taught me to think.

Yes, Kelly is someone that asks that kind of questions that shows she's willing to help herself. She's the kind of person I like helping. You feel like you're doing some good rather than wasting your time.

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Good thread Dennis. The kind of questions I never understand is like the one I saw posted today - 'How much can I make from a product launch?'. Sorry no offence to guys posting these questions but I really not sure if you expect some specific magical numbers posted in reply.

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Lee, "why" is a good question to ask. It's one we ask a lot as children, which drives our parents nuts, and that often results in us learning to stop asking why.

Knowing the "why" behind something often gives us a much better understanding of it, allowing us to make better use of the knowledge. For example, I may know I'm supposed to put a keyword in my title tag, but if I don't know the reason for it is because it's a search engine optimization tactic, I may not realize I should also use keywords in my page text, image names, image alt tags, directory names, and so on.

Of course, we still have to ask "why" about the right things or we haven't come that far from being an annoying little kid.
The answers are supposed to help us grow up. If the answers aren't useful or we don't really listen to them, we get stuck.

I think there are different kinds of learners.

I spend a lot of time and energy understanding the "why" of what I'm trying to learn. I find that I get it and remember it and can act on it more successfully if I know the "why". Things make more sense to me when I see how they are connected together. I like to understand the bigger picture before I drill down into the specifics.

But "why" questions are not always "action oriented". I do tend to ask a lot of higher level questions first before I get to specifics. I'm grateful to my teachers and mentors who have the patience to help me get the big picture first and then the details.

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Why should I take time out of my day to do for you what is your responsibility?
Because you want to.

If you don't want to, don't do it.

Nobody is going to hunt you down and tell you that you HAVE to answer newbie questions.

Perhaps we don't really need to tell the newbies they HAVE to shut up and answer their own questions, either.

I suggest there is plenty of room for both approaches to work just fine within the same community.

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Have you looked?

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Hi Dennis,

Good point. The only thing I would add is to start DOING something. People that succeed don't wait for all the answers before beginning, they dive in the deep end and learn to swim.

Make it a first priority to have "something" for sale within the first thirty days. Keep to a time limit and put something out there by then. It might be perfect, it might not, but you will get a huge boost the first time someone pays you five bucks for a ten page ebook and that will motivate you to do it again and better and on a larger scale.

Ask great questions, get good answers.... and get going! (yes, I spent the first six months wondering if what I was doing was good enough...what time I wasted...never again!)

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GREAT THREAD Dennis. This is what you call Warrior brains expressing themselves. Well I happen to be a Newbie, but I have the benefit of having an IMer husband, and I said it once here, he warned me before I joined by saying: "Don't ask stupid or silly questions, I can answer those." So when in doubt i turn to him!!!

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Because you want to.

If you don't want to, don't do it.

Nobody is going to hunt you down and tell you that you HAVE to answer newbie questions.

Perhaps we don't really need to tell the newbies they HAVE to shut up and answer their own questions, either.

I suggest there is plenty of room for both approaches to work just fine within the same community.



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What I want to do is help people that are willing to help themselves. I didn't tell anyone what they could or couldn't ask, I said exactly this:

If you want more success, ask better questions.


Key word in that statement being IF.

Is that so hard to understand? IF someone is happy with the kind of answers they are getting, whether they are good answers to good questions or dumb answers to dumb questions or anything in between, then obviously my post doesn't apply to that person, but...


...if you want more success, ask better questions.


Not sure why you are making an issue of this. I never told anyone what they could or couldn't ask, nor did I tell anyone else how they should answer. I told people one reason why they may not be getting the kind of answers that help them.

Also, I also didn't say you don't help people, but the posts you pointed to don't provide the depth you previously suggested was lacking. They're good enough answers, but they are of no more depth than most. As I said, if you think our answers should cover every angle and answer the unasked questions, then feel free to lead the way.

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Sort of like banks want to lend money to people who don't need it, right?

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No, Dennis, the key word in that statement is "better" - because it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't say a single useful thing to anyone. In fact, "success" doesn't mean much of anything either. Your advice says nothing. It might mean anything you like. All you have to do is squirm around and say "that's not what I meant" whenever someone takes issue with your advice.

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Not sure why you are making an issue of this.
Because CONFUSING THE NEWBIES IS IMMORAL.

I'm not taking issue with you personally, Dennis, I'm taking issue with the general principle. As this thread has evolved, it has looked very much like you're saying "newbies need to ask questions with no good answers." That is not going to help them, and they lack the knowledge and experience to see it.

In Jewish law, this is called a mishchol - a stumbling block before the blind. I take the prohibition on such things very, very seriously.

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As the ultimate authority on what I was saying, I can say with complete certainty that you have misinterpreted my suggestion.

An answer should - wonder of wonders - answer the question.

It should not handwave the question with vague uncertainty, nor should it serve as a transparent attempt to say "buy my stuff."

Consider the video question, "Would You Spent 2-3 Days On A Video Like This?" - most of the responses revolved around the idea that it was not a very good video for that purpose.

But for what purposes IS it a good video? What direction can be provided? Can the questioner take what I have said and improve his results with it?

That's precisely what I was suggesting... and I think a great deal of why we don't see this in people's answers is that they are unable to see whether they are providing it.

I believe everyone in that video thread honestly intended to help, was honestly trying to help, and honestly believed they did help. Where they failed to help was in misunderstanding the features and benefits of the question: the text of the question is a feature, but the intended result is the benefit. Steve wants to use video to improve the results of his IM business. If you didn't help him do that, you didn't help him.

The people answering questions are just as much at fault as those who ask them. People ask very clear and simple questions, and they're not answered. Eighty people are compelled to post their touchy-feely handwaves about mindset and experience, but nobody bothers to answer the question. And honestly, how long does it take for someone to say "gee, if those are the kind of answers I'll get anyway, why not ask a question that encourages them?"

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Alright, getting back to the thread starter, What Kind of Questions Do You Ask? I think the point here is if you're being productive and you run into a problem or are just seeking the experienced wisdom, then make sure you do ask the right questions so you dont waste your time.

You can always ponder points on your own, but if you don't know what kind of questions to ask then start there, however, you will have to call the thread "What kind of questions do I ask? You will get an entirely different group of responses. Amazing!
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Sort of like banks want to lend money to people who don't need it, right?
Well, yes and no.

A bank loans money to people based on whether, in their judgment, the borrower has the ability to repay. I answer questions that, based in my judgment, whether I believe the people asking the question may derive benefit from my answer, but I can provide a partial answer if that's all I have to give. Sometimes the answers we need come from multiple sources and we assemble the puzzle one piece at a time.

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No, Dennis, the key word in that statement is "better" - because it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't say a single useful thing to anyone. In fact, "success" doesn't mean much of anything either. Your advice says nothing. It might mean anything you like. All you have to do is squirm around and say "that's not what I meant" whenever someone takes issue with your advice.
If you want to go that extreme, nothing anyone says to anyone means anything because everything is subject to personal interpretation and personal reality. So maybe we should close down the forum since it's ALL subject to being misconstrued.

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In looking back through the posts, you seem to be the only one complaining. Several people have found the post useful, including newbies. Your interpretation and opinion is not the ultimate authority on the value or morality of my post or how others interpret it.

I've seen plenty of your posts where you use your intelligence, which is considerable, to make your point in ways that seem designed to make you look clever at the expense of making someone else look stupid, so your morality card doesn't play with me.

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The people answering questions are just as much at fault as those who ask them. People ask very clear and simple questions, and they're not answered. Eighty people are compelled to post their touchy-feely handwaves about mindset and experience, but nobody bothers to answer the question. And honestly, how long does it take for someone to say "gee, if those are the kind of answers I'll get anyway, why not ask a question that encourages them?"
People generally do the best they can. If that's not good enough for you, that's not really their problem, it's yours. Maybe we should all submit our posts to you for approval before posting them. Good grief.

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GREAT THREAD Dennis. This is what you call Warrior brains expressing themselves. Well I happen to be a Newbie, but I have the benefit of having an IMer husband, and I said it once here, he warned me before I joined by saying: "Don't ask stupid or silly questions, I can answer those." So when in doubt i turn to him!!!

I try to add comments that help others and I am learning as I go. After years working in the Media, this is all very new to me, but I am enjoying it. SO, I will continue listening to my husband and TRY never to ask a stupid and vague question...
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Let me make one thing clear...anyone can ask any question they want. I've never said any questions were off limits. All I've been saying is if you're not getting the kind of answers you want, try coming up with better questions. It helps.

The whole point was to get people to realize that when they ask better questions, they will usually get better feedback. That's not a new concept. Albert Einstein and many others have said the same thing in different ways over the course of the last century or more.

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Dennis... I think I understand what you and CDarklock are both getting at.

If you ask a vague question... "How much money can I make selling blue widgets?"... well, you're opening yourself up for the whole shotgun splatter of answers. Way too general and lacking any specific detail on what you have tried, what your experience is with it, etc. Really seems like they want a magical answer that will assure them that they will just "make money" if the product is good.

However, if a person asks folks to look at their site and make suggestions why it isn't making any money, and a quick look reveals that they have picked a keyword that gets about 200 searches a month each worth about 2 cents and the top 10 ten competitors on Google's first page are all PR 7 sites. To suggest that they build a good squeeze page or pick a great Clickbank product would be ludicrous. But that is precisely the sort of response some of these folks get, probably because they have been pegged as someone who is somewhat desperate and will likely pay some modest amount of money with the hope of miraculously resurrecting their site. That really is pretty slimy.

What that person honestly needs to read is that they unfortunately have pissed away a great deal of time building a site around a lousy keyword, and that they should chalk it up as a learning experience, go back to the drawing board and learn a bit more about picking good keywords.


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Dennis, I just saw the post you referenced about "What's More Important" - yeah, the post was definitely off-topic, but there's an easy solution that is too rarely employed here. Instead of engaging in the conversation, those who know better need to tell the poster that the post belongs in the Off Topic (or whatever) forum, and ask a mod to move it. In this case, several "advanced Warriors" answered the poster and continued the thread. I didn't see anything that would let the OP know he did anything wrong by posting the question where he did. This particular poster may be trainable, but instead he was aided and abetted.

Hmmm, there's a Miscategorized button on Craigslist. Something like that would be a great way to alert the mods.

Moving on. Dennis, I agree that "I think I can predict who will experience some success relatively quickly and who will struggle for a long time" based on the questions they ask." And your post is great as a means to express frustration, but I really think you're kind of preaching to the choir.

To get what you're saying requires common sense, which isn't at all common, and what seems obvious to some isn't obvious to others (obviously). Those who get it are probably already doing it (or trying to). And others either don't know how to ask good questions, don't care, or ARE just here for the cocktail party chat.

To me and, it's second nature to search before asking, to RTFM, to gauge the personality of a forum before posting... to check the cables first if the network's down, rather than assuming it's something more complex.

That said, I probably ask a bunch of dumb questions. We all have holes in our knowledge and understanding, and I have more than my share. I always attempt to find an answer myself, but even though I've been a professional researcher, I can't always get what I need. In most cases, it's because I don't know how to frame the question. It IS always about the question, but figuring out the right question isn't necessarily easy.

Anyway, for newbies interested in improving their ability to ask questions without unduly annoying the experts, Eric Raymond's 2001 classic, How To Ask Questions The Smart Way, provides definitive training on forum behavior.

It's an entertaining trip down memory lane - the "RTFM and STFW" section brought back fond memories.

Here are Eric's suggested steps to take before you post a question:

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Before asking a technical question by e-mail, or in a newsgroup, or on a website chat board, do the following:
  1. Try to find an answer by searching the archives of the forum you plan to post to.
  2. Try to find an answer by searching the Web.
  3. Try to find an answer by reading the manual.
  4. Try to find an answer by reading a FAQ.
  5. Try to find an answer by inspection or experimentation.
  6. Try to find an answer by asking a skilled friend.
  7. If you're a programmer, try to find an answer by reading the source code.
When you ask your question, display the fact that you have done these things first; this will help establish that you're not being a lazy sponge and wasting people's time. Better yet, display what you have learned from doing these things. We like answering questions for people who have demonstrated they can learn from the answers.
Bottom line: the clueless are likely to remain just that. The people who come in here asking "how do ya make a whole lot of money, i need it now" aren't going to start doing their due diligence before posting no matter what anyone says. But maybe a few will read this thread and get a clue. Here's hoping.

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I think Dennis just means there are lots of posts which really can't help the poster on here recently. For me they fall into 3 categories. Those that no one can possibly give an answer, not going to get an answer or will get a dangerous answer to like:-

How long will it take me to make money with xyz?

Those that people are unlikely to want to answer like:-

What specific micro niches can make me money and how?

And finally as been discussed by Admin a number of times...the dangerous questions like:-

Is it legal/will I get sued by doing xyz?

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