What's the difference between article "spinning" & aricle "rewriting"?

[Rachel Embry]

What is the difference between article "spinning" and article "rewriting"?

Is one better than the other?

Believe it or not, I've been doing IM for about 2 years now & haven't done any article marketing. I don't have the patience to do all the writing myself so I'm going to outsource it. I also want to outsource the submission of the articles. I've had people give me quotes for both the "spinning" & "rewriting" and I still don't quite get what the difference is.

Does anyone have any tips for me? Anything I should watch out for? I've heard of getting "slapped" if you submit too many articles at once.

I'd love to get a heads up from anyone who's familiar with article marketing (which is probably everyone here...but me, LOL!)

Thanks so much!
Rachel

[Dhira]

I think:
Spinning: One article many variations spun with a tool that takes variations of words { this|these} {I am|I'm} and every spin produces a 'unique article'.
Rewriting: One article, changing it slightly one time a sentence or word at at time.

[Brandon Tanner]

Those 2 terms are often used pretty loosely, but I think generally speaking Dhira's definition is pretty accurate.

Article spinning usually involves taking extra time up front to write several variations of individual phrases or sentences in each article. Once you do that, a good article spinning program can take all that content and output several unique article variations.

On the other hand, Article rewriting generally means rewriting 1 article at a time (manually). Which is much faster than "spinning", if you only need 1 or 2 variations of each article.

[Norma Holt]

That's an interesting question. I had never heard of the terms. Thanks

[TheRichJerksNet]

Hi Rachel,
This depends upon who answers your question and what website you are using to do your spinning.

It is the truth that most article spinners are nothing more than crap. I willnot say all of them are and I will not say all of them work the way most people think. The problem with some people is they have no creativity to think outside the box.

Re-Writting an Article and Spinning an Article (using the proper website) really is no different but spinning can be faster. Both methods are "Human" controlled but again this depends upon the website you use for spinning.

For the record I am not article marketer but I have a website developer that has produced some of the most advanced websites around.

James

[Resale Rights Ninja]

spun articles are horrible whereas a re-written one, if done properly, can be a unique piece of content. Most software that spins articles just substitute synonyms for some of the words. It is a tedious process and you end up with nonsensical garbage. Jet spinner is the only spinner I would consider. You can substitute whole sentences, or even paragraphs. Personally I could never get the hang of using it, even though I tried many times. It is easier to just write a new article that is totally unique. I doubt spun articles even fool the search engines. There might even be some article software in my membership site, if not I will add one just for kicks, but the review for it will not be good.

[Norma Holt]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Hi Rachel,

For the record I am not article marketer but I have a website developer that has produced some of the most advanced websites around.

James

Are you talking program or live person. If its a program would you care to share the name of it so we can all become rich jerks.

God bless

[LeannaLuck]

If you are using an article spinning software, while you will be able to produce articles at a faster pace, you will find that they don't always make sense. Actually rewriting the article yourself or having someone else rewrite them, allows for much more creativity and sentences that actually make sense. It will of course take longer to rewrite the articles, but the end product is normally much better.

[Melkor]

Article spinning is a dead end tool anyway the way most of them work - the output may look slightly different to human eyes(and usually crap) but the meaning/content run through a LSI (Latent Semantic Index) analysis yields the same results matrix of actual meaningful content.

LSI is not quite how Google functions - yet, but it's coming and people who rely on 'article spinners' are going to wind up in the same situation as the people who relied on Traffic Equalizer - used to making 4-5 figures a month from Adsense and now having to get used to making nothing or at best three figures.

Which means that for all your effort of producing an article with slightly different variations in pronouns, abbreviations and adverbs you wind up with hundreds of instances of (random adverbs+random pronouns + random abbreviations)*Constant Semantic Content. When google trawls the web and looks for meaning, the bots discard all the (random junk) that your spinner produces and extracts the semantic content of it, so two spun variations of one article collapses to one result - and gets filtered.

If you start relying on spinning now, you're going to be in a world of hurt when the semantic web is fully operational. Ask all the black hat twerps who ran around crying "Adsense is dead" because their MFA spam/scraper/splog sites got deindexed how it feels to have your income cut by 90%.

You wanna do article marketing, go read Steven Wagenheim, Tiffany Dow or Dean Shahin, and leave the short-sighted BlueFart tricks to the people who don't have a business, just a series of opportunistic money grabs.

[Jon Alexander]

Originally Posted by Melkor

Article spinning is a dead end tool anyway the way most of them work - the output may look slightly different to human eyes(and usually crap) but the meaning/content run through a LSI (Latent Semantic Index) analysis yields the same results matrix of actual meaningful content.

LSI is not quite how Google functions - yet, but it's coming and people who rely on 'article spinners' are going to wind up in the same situation as the people who relied on Traffic Equalizer - used to making 4-5 figures a month from Adsense and now having to get used to making nothing or at best three figures.

Which means that for all your effort of producing an article with slightly different variations in pronouns, abbreviations and adverbs you wind up with hundreds of instances of (random adverbs+random pronouns + random abbreviations)*Constant Semantic Content. When google trawls the web and looks for meaning, the bots discard all the (random junk) that your spinner produces and extracts the semantic content of it, so two spun variations of one article collapses to one result - and gets filtered.

If you start relying on spinning now, you're going to be in a world of hurt when the semantic web is fully operational. Ask all the black hat twerps who ran around crying "Adsense is dead" because their MFA spam/scraper/splog sites got deindexed how it feels to have your income cut by 90%.

You wanna do article marketing, go read Steven Wagenheim, Tiffany Dow or Dean Shahin, and leave the short-sighted BlueFart tricks to the people who don't have a business, just a series of opportunistic money grabs.

nicely post, well written, and completely wrong.

It depends on the quality of the rewritten article. Otherwise what you are predicting is that no two different people will ever be able to write about the same topic without one of them getting slapped, which is obviously silly.

Also wrong - the MFA bleat - lots of people still make lots of money from them. Me, for example. And apart from forums, I never type a darned word. What you fail to understand (although you obviously have SOME understanding of search engine technology) is that it's a *war*.

It's an evolutionary struggle between 2 camps, both of whom need to take resource from a single supply. Unfortunately, the objectives of the 2 camps are mutually exclusive, which is why there will never be 'peace'. What there WILL be, is people coining it using tools.

Such as article rewriters.

edit - I also have to pick you up on your charming if naive misunderstanding of what most people using article spinners do. They DON'T spin an entire article into something that could in theory be analyzed down into a semantic footprint. Most of them don't even 'spin' lots of versions. There's no need - the web is chock full of content that can be repurposed. What they actually do is, they 'wrangle' stuff - extract portions from articles, usually automatically, and create something completely new, which is why technology will NEVER be able to trap and dedupe them. THEY AREN'T DUPES, either lexically or semantically. Ferchrissakes, I've come across stuff that I've written, that I've also wrangled, and the only way *I've been able to identify my own article* is because I cunningly embedded madeupwords/keywords/typos in them so I can track them.

If the human writer of the article can't do it, neither can a bot. But you just keep on pumping out those articles, boy. You provide the raw materials the rest of us use to make money. Thanks!

[Rachel Embry]

Thanks everyone for your replys...very helpful to me. I now know what questions to ask the people I'm outsourcing this stuff to.

Much appreciated!!

Rachel

[ioio]

I have article writer and she tried article spinning program ,bus she was very disappointed.She said that after the spinning that article don't make sense at all.May be we just need other software.If someone knows good software let us know.

[tommyp]

I guess my take is a little different, but here it is:

Article Writing Software Exposed

[zephyrwriting]

I think that software and/or people have maligned article 'spinning' quite a bit. The definitions that people have posted above seem pretty accurate as far as what is expected out of the two terms right now in an internet marketing sense though.

Personally, to me, article spinning should be about taking a given article and actually presenting it from a different angle.

i.e. If you were to have an article titled 'Why There Are Doubts About the Global Warming Phenomena', you could spin it into two other articles, one maybe being a expose-type factual piece titled 'Global Warming: The Untold Facts that Greenies Don't Want You To Know' and the other maybe even 'Is it Worth the Effort Going Green When Global Warming is Not Proven?'

Those were just off the top of my head, but the facts for both the original and the secondary two would be almost identical. All that would really vary is the angle and tone of the articles.

But yeah, most definitely nowadays when people say they are spinning an article it is in reference to software-spinning or cracking out a thesaurus and replacing words.

-Vish.

[razztek]

I have to agree with the majority. Spinning can mean many things, but to me it's taking an article and changing words, rearranging sentences, and basically putting out the same article but hopefully not getting tagged with duplicate content.

Re-writing is a whole different ballgame. I am currently rewriting as many articles as I can, and sometimes the paragraphs are NOTHING like the original, because I just don't paraphrase, I add my own ideas, stories, etc. Sometimes the articles restate the same sentence two or three times anyway so I have to be creative and come up with fresh text.

My problem is what to do with all that content now that it's rewritten. It's 100% unique. It will pass CopyScape with absolutely no problems whatsoever. I have many ideas, but I'm looking for advice.

See this thread: BEST WAY to monetize unique content?

[John Piteo]

I'll take quality over quantity any day. To get lots of traffic, pay your outsourcers to produce good quality articles and have them submitted to the top 10 to 15 directories. The reason for this is you want your articles to get picked up and published on websites, blogs and in newsletters.

It's also important to do your keyword research so you can tell your outsourcers on which longtail keywords you want your articles based. This will help their rankings in the search engines and produce more traffic.

If you are interested more in back links than traffic then have your articles submitted to lots of directories.

There are also lots of other things you can do with Web 2.0 sites and linking strategies, but the things I've told you about above is good to get you started.

John P