Call Me A Nut Job But Ever Notice That The More Established Marketers Don't Do These Things?

How on earth can you tell who the more established and successful warriors are?

Right on, Rod!

I wonder if the reverse is true as well. The people who do the "right" things are the ones who become respected Warriors.

Either way, excellent list.

The only other one I can think of is more established Warriors tend to not take things as personally, at least not as readily. They respond to constructive criticism better, especially if they are asking for said criticism.

All the best,
Michael

I'm sure there are exceptions on both sides of the coin, but I think what you've listed is generally true; I've seen it myself. I don't know for sure who's successful and who's not, but I have a pretty good idea.

I understand, thanks for answering so quickly

Actually I have found that the most successful don't post much at at all. they are too busy and have perfected their marketing ability beyond Warriors. Not all of course.

You are just spot on. I have had many warriors ( I mean many ) helping me in private and no one knows about that.

My only regret as an internet marketer is that I did not know this place on time. Probably I would have been a $10k per month marketer by now if I had known the warrior forum earlier.

There is certainly a dividing line where you notice the type of person who posts and what they post that correlates to their actual success.

I don't think it's the success that regulates how and what they post, but the type of person they are that allows them to succeed.

We all start as new marketers at some stage in our careers and I feel that having the right focus, dedication and sense of self allows us to overcome any barriers to success and that reflects in how we deal with others, including here.

(Wow it is too early in the morning for philosophical debates!)

All the best

Sean

Rod,

Yup, I agree with you about the established successful marketers.

The thing is, they don't have to do any of the stuff you listed regarding braging, be know it alls, complain, etc ... This is one of the reason people see them as leaders - they lead!

One of the biggest problems for some others is that they are not there yet but want to be, and unfortunately, they see themselves as leading in the market.

I read your post.. I personally that that someone who is flaunting their earnings and what they do is all full of S... to be honest. Most people in the regular business world are very humble when it comes to making money. They do not flaunt it at all. I think a lot of them tell you what you want to hear so they can get you to join their programs....

Which in this case is a lot of Bs... So, in my opinion, if you hear someone flaunting about how they made 10K in one month and how they made 30k in one month and that they did it... yiada yiada....STAY AWAY AND FAST!!!!

I've been reading this forum since 2003 and I've noticed a few things about the Warrior Forum...

1. The Big Guru's will pop in here but they leave once their product launch is over with.

2. Big Guru's started here like Mike Filsaime and Russell Brunson but once their business is going strong they don't stick around anymore. (can't say I blame them. They paid their dues.)

3. Many of us now have a relationship with the warrior forum. Meaning, we give out quality content and help others...but the warrior forum also gives back in giving us WSO's, satsifaction, gratidude, and link juice (ha, ha).

4. Many people naturally want to help out no matter what. I won't deny it, I am here to provide quality information but I am also here to get something back. I believe in relationships and they aren't just one sided. However, when I was first on here there weren't wso's. Yet, there were still people who gave and gave and didn't get much back.

5. I've seen people numerous times that have over 1,000 posts and been members for years that were in financial distress and needed some extra help. These people also gave great information, but it shows that if you don't take action on the info you have then you're not any better off than someone that doesn't have the information.

6. I still have no idea who Allen Says "really" is.

I hope this thread becomes a sticky.

Rod you're right on...it's kinda funny how so many similar traits exist between successful Warriors.

Excellent post, Rod. It is in complete harmony with what self-made millionaire T Harv Eker lists as one of his wealth principles. I'll paraphrase it here because I don't have the book in front of me:

Rich people overcome problems, poor people complain about them.

People may get tired of hearing about "mindset" but there's a reason so many successful people mention it - a person's mindset can make a huge difference in their success, happiness, relationships, and just about every area of life.

A few posts mentioned that the "gurus" don't come here because they're too busy, or only come here during product launches, etc. It's worth noting that one of the reasons some successful Warriors stop frequenting the WF on a regular basis is because they've grown tired of the antics of those who seem more intent on burning bridges than in building bridges.

Rod I agree TOTALLY... it's funny but true...

I disagree wholeheartedly. It is clear to me that the most successful, financially and spiritually, warriors are those who send me a 100 e-mails a day about their next launch, or their next guru buddy launch with those stupid, crappy, boring video sales pages.

They don't flippin work and I'm sick and tired of getting e-mail about and from them!!!... I wish they would stop filling my inbox with this crap.....

I don't really care about their Google Turd method... I just finished a WSO and made six figures, sow what do I care if they have a "free traffic .pdf" they want to sell me? I'm not sitting through a ten minute video for the pleasure of being sold something that I don't even need.

Errr.... didn't you hear me "Guru"?... six figure profit WSO!

If that isn't knowing how to make money in this business, then I don't know what is. I'm way past needing traffic advice, and if you disagree with what I am saying here, you obviously need help.

Myself and my friend (username: JohnP465).. will provide a mentoring service, but we charge a high price. Knowledge isn't free you know.

You might want to give me some time though, before you contact me for mentoring. My e-mail client, and mentoring software are having problems at the moment. The damn software has a banner ad in it, too. You would think the owner would be making enough to at least provide some decent support for his free software, no?

Also... Before I go

I'd just like to say that hands down, the best Autoresponder you will ever need is AWeber. It helped me to my six figure WSO.. and also, it is the best, because I said so.

If you wanna argue these points.... bring it... I'm ready and willing to argue!

Jay

That Jay was flat out hilarious.

To bring the post back on topic,

Rod, I whole heartedly agree with your OP and think you should stick the blend of
coffee you're presently drinking!

Have a Great Day!
Michael

PS, Jay, Loading up the AR's and sending you everything I got from Butt floss
to Zebra dunn ads. Saving all the "A" ads to send to you on Sunday!

Rod,

In the order posted.

1 - You're a Nut Job (hey, you told me to)

2 - the Don't do's - there's no positive result that can come from these

3 - the Do's - lots and lots of positive results there to be had for sure!

Nice post. Thanks for gently guiding the herd back to a place of good karma and helping.

Rod,
Thanks for starting a great thread. And I agree for the most part. As with anything of course there wil be those that are the exception, but I think for the most part you are dead on.

Jay,
As always you add humour to the day

Sylvia

These general traits could be applied to most people who are successful in ANYTHING.

We have better things to do...that might be why