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14 years ago

Are you collecting emails from these visitors? If not, then you need to focus on doing so RIGHT AWAY. Figure the rest out later.

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bizprivate 14 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

Are you collecting emails from these visitors? If not, then you need to focus on doing so RIGHT AWAY. Figure the rest out later.

Thanks Brian...:-)
Let's see what our fellow warriors have to say about that...

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jonoman1

14 years ago

I agree to definitely be capturing the emails of your visitors. If even 5% of these people a day get on your email list the benefits can be huge long term. Much of this depends on what type of website it is before you determine how you can monetize the traffic. Some niches do better with adsense, while others do great with affiliate marketing or CPA offers.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jonoman1

I agree to definitely be capturing the emails of your visitors. If even 5% of these people a day get on your email list the benefits can be huge long term. Much of this depends on what type of website it is before you determine how you can monetize the traffic. Some niches do better with adsense, while others do great with affiliate marketing or CPA offers.

Very wise dude...But don't you think you could do that "as well" ? Just asking...:-)

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ant_arias

14 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

Are you collecting emails from these visitors? If not, then you need to focus on doing so RIGHT AWAY. Figure the rest out later.

Totally agree, with that kind of traffic coming to your site you can build a nice size email list in no time and continue to market to them over and over again.

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bizprivate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ant_arias

Totally agree, with that kind of traffic coming to your site you can build a nice size email list in no time and continue to market to them over and over again.

I agree 100%....but I think even more could be done...with the same traffic.
Know what? I may be doing something wrong as I'm capturing only about 8K subscribers a day....50% less than the % suggest by our friend in the post above yours...Thanks for the "alert"...:-)

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Mohammad Afaq 14 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

Are you collecting emails from these visitors? If not, then you need to focus on doing so RIGHT AWAY. Figure the rest out later.

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Luiz,

Didn't you get the email that I've sent to you?

1) First off, you should build a list for that. And then market something useful (free or paid) to them.

2) Track and see if they are responsive. Segment the list into a few categories.

3) Of course you can send CPA offers to the list, but capturing their email or details would be the best thing to do, because you can market to them later on.

4) Market something which has a lifetime commission payment to them.

5) Track and test out the list, put responsive list into a side, put the not responsive list to another side.

6) Think about this, if you are in a list, would you like the owner of the list to send you heck lots of promotion each and every week? I bet you don't.

7) Help the list, and manage the list with care. For as long as they are staying in your list, you're going to make good money out of them, if you are taking care of them too

Why aren't we doing something about this already ?

P/S : Forget to add that you will need something like Aweber to to do the autoresponding job.

You can pre-write the pre-sells copy and market schedule some free stuff to send to the list, and also send some affiliate stuff to the list some other weeks.

If you know who is Ryan Deiss, he has a full course on teaching just this, and I've tried to learn as much as I can, from him

There are a tons of upsell, OTO kind of stuff which you can test with that kind of amount of list. But the main point is do it with care, and give the list quality stuffs, not crappy ones

Does this help?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by AidenChong

Luiz,

Didn't you get the email that I've sent to you?

1) First off, you should build a list for that. And then market something useful (free or paid) to them.

2) Track and see if they are responsive. Segment the list into a few categories.

3) Of course you can send CPA offers to the list, but capturing their email or details would be the best thing to do, because you can market to them later on.

4) Market something which has a lifetime commission payment to them.

5) Track and test out the list, put responsive list into a side, put the not responsive list to another side.

6) Think about this, if you are in a list, would you like the owner of the list to send you heck lots of promotion each and every week? I bet you don't.

7) Help the list, and manage the list with care. For as long as they are staying in your list, you're going to make good money out of them, if you are taking care of them too

Why aren't we doing something about this already ?

LOL....Here comes Master Chong again....and his "ancient" Chinese wisdow...
Do you really think this is a "chat room" man? :-) Just kidding....
Please turn on your ICQ man...in case you forgot...it's that "green" icon resting in your desktop...:-)

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timpears

14 years ago

It all depends on what the visitors are interested in. You say they are targeted, but didn't say wat that nich or keyword is, so it is hard to say what to do with it. As a previious poster said, CPA, AdSense, affiliate offers, and more besides. But until you say what caused them to become your visitors, we are shooting in the dark.

The one thing that was said that isn't contingent on this is 'build a list'. But then you have to know what to send them to monetize that list.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by ztac

While you're building that list(targeted) you could also sign up with Adbrite and others to show banners. You can negotiate and get up to $4.00 per CPM just for showing the ads. It's working for me on 3 of my sites.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by timpears

It all depends on what the visitors are interested in. You say they are targeted, but didn't say wat that nich or keyword is, so it is hard to say what to do with it. As a previious poster said, CPA, AdSense, affiliate offers, and more besides. But until you say what caused them to become your visitors, we are shooting in the dark.

The one thing that was said that isn't contingent on this is 'build a list'. But then you have to know what to send them to monetize that list.

Hello there,

They are all business op. seekers. Willing to make money from home, either as affiliates or starting their on web based business.

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jh3000

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bizprivate

Hello there,

They are all business op. seekers. Willing to make money from home, either as affiliates or starting their on web based business.

Thanks for your comment,

Tony Rocha

Hi Tony,

You asked that I take a look at this thread, so here are my thoughts.

Everyone not surprisingly suggests building a list, which is all good, however, you have to be able to do something specific with it. The money is not in the list,but in what you do with it. So that needs to be part of the answer.

The quality of this traffic is really a big factor, when dealing with biz opp too.

If these are biz opp seekers, at 300k per day, then lead generation may be your best bet.

Depending on how much effort you want to put into this, 2 ways come to mind.

The quicker way is to find biz opp lead gen offers on CPA networks. You may want to look at them closely though, to see if they are going to be a good converting offer or not, before sending them a lot of traffic. Lots of biz opp junk out there.

The slower long term option, but probably most profitable long term, is to actually put together a lead generation service of your own, meaning collect data and then sell the leads. No one can tell you what your lead conversion on THIS particular traffic would be, however fresh biz opp leads can be sold for good premium.

Once you set up your processes for lead collection, and buyer pipeline (which would not be hard) that could be a decent income stream.

The 3rd, but harder option, is to bypass cpa networks and sell the traffic directly on a cpa basis. The big issue here is not finding people interested, but rather people that have offers that will convert, which is why I think lead gen is best.

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Chris Grable

14 years ago

Focus on capturing and converting the highest possible percentage of your visitors. Get rid of any distractions or traffic leaks on your site. No adsense, no CPAs, no affiliate ducts... nada! Focus on your own series of products. I'd go with a free offer to capture their data and a tightly matched/well presented upsell!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Grable

Focus on capturing and converting the highest possible percentage of your visitors. Get rid of any distractions or traffic leaks on your site. No adsense, no CPAs, no affiliate ducts... nada! Focus on your own series of products. I'd go with a free offer to capture their data and a tightly matched/well presented upsell!

Thanks Chris..:-)

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jh3000

Hi Tony,

You asked that I take a look at this thread, so here are my thoughts.

Everyone not surprisingly suggests building a list, which is all good, however, you have to be able to do something specific with it. The money is not in the list,but in what you do with it. So that needs to be part of the answer.

The quality of this traffic is really a big factor, when dealing with biz opp too.

If these are biz opp seekers, at 300k per day, then lead generation may be your best bet.

Depending on how much effort you want to put into this, 2 ways come to mind.

The quicker way is to find biz opp lead gen offers on CPA networks. You may want to look at them closely though, to see if they are going to be a good converting offer or not, before sending them a lot of traffic. Lots of biz opp junk out there.

The slower long term option, but probably most profitable long term, is to actually put together a lead generation service of your own, meaning collect data and then sell the leads. No one can tell you what your lead conversion on THIS particular traffic would be, however fresh biz opp leads can be sold for good premium.

Once you set up your processes for lead collection, and buyer pipeline (which would not be hard) that could be a decent income stream.

The 3rd, but harder option, is to bypass cpa networks and sell the traffic directly on a cpa basis. The big issue here is not finding people interested, but rather people that have offers that will convert, which is why I think lead gen is best.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to read gthe thread and reply.
My business is PPC, and I keep my focus on it...that's what makes my confortable living since a decade. It may sounds silly....Despite the fact that I'm a research addicted about IM, I was not aware that I could sell my leads. It's good news for me. I have about 300K so far and growing in about 8K new ones per day. All info...names, last names, address, phone sometimes, zip, IP address, everything....all double opt-in.... Do you think I could sell it and save my time? If so, please PM me about that if I'm not asking too much. I'd appreciate your help about the matter. maybe we could even do something together.

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briandario

14 years ago

Build a list, but offline. Email addresses are great, but nothing compared to what you'd make renting those addresses through a list broker.

You might even consider offering free coaching just to earn some trust. Then you would be a JV partner from heaven.

Just imagine taking 50% of Frank Kern's next launch or one of his mastermind member's launches.

Think big. Give them what they want, then sell them the tools to get them there faster.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by briandario

Build a list, but offline. Email addresses are great, but nothing compared to what you'd make renting those addresses through a list broker.

You might even consider offering free coaching just to earn some trust. Then you would be a JV partner from heaven.

Just imagine taking 50% of Frank Kern's next launch or one of his mastermind member's launches.

Think big. Give them what they want, then sell them the tools to get them there faster.

Hello fellow,

Thanks a lot for your post. I'm not a "GURU" and never wanted to be. It sounds kind of "Ego Inflation" for me....:-) I always think about JV's like begging someone to consider what I have....and I don't like that....maybe I could rent the list for high selected promotions...and very..VERY limited ones...just brainstorming. If you have any ideas that You'd like to discuss further...please PM me anytime.

Once again, many thanks for your comments and sharing your knowledge.

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Mokai

14 years ago

**** man 300K a day is serious, i could do miracles with that its hard to say ideas without knowing your site but create your own product and market it to your list, or create paid versions / subscription based products.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mokai

**** man 300K a day is serious, i could do miracles with that its hard to say ideas without knowing your site but create your own product and market it to your list, or create paid versions / subscription based products.

Thanks a lot Mokai...:-)

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butters 14 years ago

This has me interested, what is your website which is receiving 300k a day?
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  Originally Posted by butters
  
  This has me interested, what is your website which is receiving 300k a day?
  
  Please PM me...:-)
  
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Marhelper

14 years ago

DEFINITELY capture the email addresses as that is the most important step. Draw attention to the customers by offering something FREE and of value. I would also have your own product for sale, tailored to the niche. If the product is not selling well then move to good 'ole Ad Sense and/or CPA offers.

There is also some nice alternative methods such as Ask Question & Experts Answer You ASAP! Name Your Price, Get Online Advice & Help - Just Answer! - depends on the niche.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Marhelper

DEFINITELY capture the email addresses as that is the most important step. Draw attention to the customers by offering something FREE and of value. I would also have your own product for sale, tailored to the niche. If the product is not selling well then move to good 'ole Ad Sense and/or CPA offers.

There is also some nice alternative methods such as Ask Question & Experts Answer You ASAP! Name Your Price, Get Online Advice & Help - Just Answer! - depends on the niche.

Thanks a lot man....I'll check your signature now...very teasing..:-)

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SomeoneWhoKnows

14 years ago

8K out of 300? Ya, definitely jack up what you're giving them for free. Getting 10% to opt in would be a good goal. Give them some good PLR ebook or something else for free that will help them learn more about making money/biz opps.

Give them more incentive to opt in and maybe look at selling those leads.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by SomeoneWhoKnows

8K out of 300? Ya, definitely jack up what you're giving them for free. Getting 10% to opt in would be a good goal. Give them some good PLR ebook or something else for free that will help them learn more about making money/biz opps.

Give them more incentive to opt in and maybe look at selling those leads.

Thanks dude....
I had people telling me that I'm getting a very low amount of subscribers with the traffic I have..That I should be grabbing at least the double of the 8K I do...It's great to know that someone think that 8K is a good number. I offer free related offers to grab their attention....and of course I have plans to use it carefuly to monetize.

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ozduc

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bizprivate

Build a list? CPA? Sell your product or promote your affiliate link? Maybe more than one option....

All of the above.
But what you should really do is concentrate on developing the most advanced and profitable advertising alternative to monetize websites, blogs and email lists.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by ozduc

All of the above.
But what you should really do is concentrate on developing the most advanced and profitable advertising alternative to monetize websites, blogs and email lists.

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That's what i'm doing dude...Check my signature out and please feel free to join us...:-)

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ozduc 14 years ago

Originally Posted by bizprivate

Hi,

That's what i'm doing dude...Check my signature out and please feel free to join us...:-)

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I guess you missed the tongue in cheek there as I copied my comment word for word from your sig link.:rolleyes:
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woodymcgrath

14 years ago

Here's what I would do

- Create an opt-in page to collect data and presell them offers related to your site
- Depending on the target market, you can include affiliate links AND CPA offers
- Have you also thought of selling ad space?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by woodymcgrath

Here's what I would do

- Create an opt-in page to collect data and presell them offers related to your site
- Depending on the target market, you can include affiliate links AND CPA offers
- Have you also thought of selling ad space?

Thanks for your advices...

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gacott

14 years ago

I am a VERY FIRM believe of one page one action. Squeeze pages just for that, Sales pages just for that, on and on.

In your case, with Business Op, I would give a smoking offer away, you should be able to afford it with those kinds of numbers. Clearly demonstrate the value of the product. Make the people LOVE you for giving it to them.

And now is your chance to monetize the second time around. Hit them for a nice OTO. You have just given them something of great value so now pair it with something that compliments that value. . . can anybody say membership website?

With the right initial product this could be an easy sell.

Garret

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by gacott

I am a VERY FIRM believe of one page one action. Squeeze pages just for that, Sales pages just for that, on and on.

In your case, with Business Op, I would give a smoking offer away, you should be able to afford it with those kinds of numbers. Clearly demonstrate the value of the product. Make the people LOVE you for giving it to them.

And now is your chance to monetize the second time around. Hit them for a nice OTO. You have just given them something of great value so now pair it with something that compliments that value. . . can anybody say membership website?

With the right initial product this could be an easy sell.

Garret

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Thanks for such great product,

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Rich Rockets

14 years ago

I would create multiple similar sites and try to distribute some of that traffic across them. Then in a year you might have 10 sites all getting 300k people per day.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Rich Rockets

I would create multiple similar sites and try to distribute some of that traffic across them. Then in a year you might have 10 sites all getting 300k people per day.

Hi Dude,

Thanks for the post. I already have 56 websites receiving 5 million US visitors a day. All small ppc search engines powered by industry giants. Please notice...this is not Adsesne sites...are real small search engines powered by big names in the ppc industry. It took me 10 years to reach this point. I can't offer subscriptions from all of them. I have rules from my upstream providers to follow. So I use what I can...and it generates me 8K new subscribers daily.
My Thread is more about good ideas to monetize 300K uniques a day, biz opt seekers, than have ideas about what to do with my traffic....anyway all comments are very welcome.
if someone with a very good idea appear...we can even think about having a deal to work along. Feel free to post here or PM me if you prefer...Thanks a lot...:-)

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coold

14 years ago

easiest is adsense and also some cpa related to content plus a small email optin is good too.Also try big cpm networks,they pay flat on impression no matter for clicks.

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Luiz!

Thanks for this, more ideas coming in to my brain on how to monetize with lists because of your thread! Thanks ! I will follow closely so I won't miss out any great ideas on how to capitalize a list on the front and back-end...

List management is another kind of huge beast....

THANKS!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by AidenChong

Luiz!

Thanks for this, more ideas coming in to my brain on how to monetize with lists because of your thread! Thanks ! I will follow closely so I won't miss out any great ideas on how to capitalize a list on the front and back-end...

List management is another kind of huge beast....

THANKS!

Hi Aiden,

Please feel free to "manage" the Thread replies along with me...there are already some PM's asking for JVs. I'm letting the guys know that you are...let's say...my "list manager"...:-) So please go ahead and keep me posted when possible...

Thanks for all dude,

Tony

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orlando cassara

14 years ago

I agree that capturing email is what will pay off the most in the long term.

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mainstreetcm

14 years ago

I would sell advertising and laugh all the way to the bank. I'm not talking about adsense either, I'm talking about joining an ad network that pays $3-$4 (Tribal Fusion comes to mind) per CPM. With 300,000 visitors a day you should be earning a minimum of $900 daily from advertising alone with one high paying network.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by mainstreetcm

I would sell advertising and laugh all the way to the bank. I'm not talking about adsense either, I'm talking about joining an ad network that pays $3-$4 (Tribal Fusion comes to mind) per CPM. With 300,000 visitors a day you should be earning a minimum of $900 daily from advertising alone with one high paying network.

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Greg Jacobs

14 years ago

i suppose the first question is what are you doing with them now?

I dont know about you , but if I had 300k biz op leads a day, I would be making approx 5m a month in profit without even having to think about it

1 - optimize your lead capture process. dunno about the lander or the traffic, but i bet with a few small tweaks can double your opt in %.
2 - bring them into a center of trust through content and personaility
3 - start feeding them offers, preferably your own (or the face you put on it)
4 - rinse and repeat.

if you are serious and need help, then pm

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butters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

i suppose the first question is what are you doing with them now?

Lets be honest, if he gets 300k a day to a bizop site and he doesn't know what to do with them then he doesn't get that amount of traffic. If you had 300k a day (Thats about the same as Walmarts traffic) you would know it all already.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

Lets be honest, if he gets 300k a day to a bizop site and he doesn't know what to do with them then he doesn't get that amount of traffic. If you had 300k a day (Thats about the same as Walmarts traffic) you would know it all already.

Hello,

So I dont have it? Interesting...

OK...Aren't you posting that because you sent me a PM with questions about my trafic and I asked you what you have in mind before giving you more info? Man...your opinion doesn't affect what I have...don't you think that the spirit of the forum is have fellow warriors helping each other? I think so...and again...it's a shame you post comments like that without even knowing who I am....
At last...I never said that I don't know what to do with my traffiic....I'd be really stupid in that case...a friendly suggestion...please read the full thread...it would avoid unrelated postings like yours....

Anyway...I wish you all the best in your business ventures.

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bizprivate

Hello,

So I dont have it? Interesting...

OK...Aren't you posting that because you sent me a PM with questions about my trafic and I asked you what you have in mind before giving you more info? Man...your opinion doesn't affect what I have...don't you think that the spirit of the forum is have fellow warriors helping each other? I think so...and again...it's a shame you post comments like that without even knowing who I am....
At last...I never said that I don't know what to do with my traffiic....I'd be really stupid in that case...a friendly suggestion...please read the full thread...it would avoid unrelated postings like yours....

Anyway...I wish you all the best in your business ventures.

Tony

HAAHAHAHA !! Tony! I laughed every single time I read your posts like this! You're still wasting time on things like this man... Out of almost 50 posts, there's only ONE "not so good" post. Why cry over that man?

I was tempted to reply to that friend of ours, asking him to TRACE your posts back to some other threads. But I stopped because I got work to do. I bet you're too free to even take your time to reply that huh?!

I told you earlier on, there will be people jump right to the end before even reading some of the few "episodes" between the first and last post. You have hamburgers to eat, remember?

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butters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bizprivate

Hello,

So I dont have it? Interesting...

OK...Aren't you posting that because you sent me a PM with questions about my trafic and I asked you what you have in mind before giving you more info? Man...your opinion doesn't affect what I have...don't you think that the spirit of the forum is have fellow warriors helping each other? I think so...and again...it's a shame you post comments like that without even knowing who I am....
At last...I never said that I don't know what to do with my traffiic....I'd be really stupid in that case...a friendly suggestion...please read the full thread...it would avoid unrelated postings like yours....

Anyway...I wish you all the best in your business ventures.

Tony

Dude you said you got 56 websites with a total of 5 million daily visitors... That would mean roughly 100k a day to each of your 56 sites and your standing here asking about how to monetize them... I read the full post and I know what your asking, what I don't get is, if you have 5 million uniques spread across 56 sites, why are you asking such basic questions.

The reality is, if you build 56 sites with this amount of traffic, you would be monetising them already and making a killing doing so. Most of the answers here are basic, adesense etc, when in reality it is a lot more complex and you need to target certain types of traffic with certain types of offers. If you have a list you need to segment and narrow down your offers etc... but all you have said, yeah I got 300k traffic, help me out.

You then later say that you get 8k subscribers a day and that is only from one site... If this is the case then you obviously know what your doing, if your building a list at 8k a day, which is roughly 1-2million in a year then why aint you talking to the "gurus". Right now to me, this just looks like a whole lie, it may be true and a huge congrats if it but I right now, until I have seen some sort of evidence, I don't see the point in posting advice.

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

Dude you said you got 56 websites with a total of 5 million daily visitors... That would mean roughly 100k a day to each of your 56 sites and your standing here asking about how to monetize them... I read the full post and I know what your asking, what I don't get is, if you have 5 million uniques spread across 56 sites, why are you asking such basic questions.

The reality is, if you build 56 sites with this amount of traffic, you would be monetising them already and making a killing doing so. Most of the answers here are basic, adesense etc, when in reality it is a lot more complex and you need to target certain types of traffic with certain types of offers. If you have a list you need to segment and narrow down your offers etc... but all you have said, yeah I got 300k traffic, help me out.

You then later say that you get 8k subscribers a day and that is only from one site... If this is the case then you obviously know what your doing, if your building a list at 8k a day, which is roughly 1-2million in a year then why aint you talking to the "gurus". Right now to me, this just looks like a whole lie, it may be true and a huge congrats if it but I right now, until I have seen some sort of evidence, I don't see the point in posting advice.

butters,

I can see why you're in that tone. Sorry for my mis-judgement too in my earlier post.

When Tony says 56 websites, he meant 56 small PPC networks. I am currently managing his list of 250k subscribers (not yet 300k, but still growing each day) . Exactly in the business opportunities realm.

I can show screen shoots of this but people may call this a lie too. What I can do is, offer you a REAL LIFE video screen shoot in Skype if you want. PM me about what you have to offer (quality products of course).

What he really meant in the title was , if you (all warriors, not just referring to any particular individuals

) are having 300k visitors per day, what would you do with that, some sort of mind provoking sentence

I hope you really don't get offended by what Tony has mentioned.

Tony, I've checked and you really did mention 56 WEBSITES (without mentioning that they are PPC networks

). This must be some sort of mis-information / misunderstanding and I hope that we warriors are not going to act like other forum member does.

butters, I hope I've cleared that up for you man.

P/S: butters, one more point to add man. We all know what "GURUs" have to offer, right? Most of them are having a doubtfully good product. You and I know that if we were to promote crappy stuffs to our list, people will hit the dang unsubscribe button faster than they can take off their... pants?

So that's why we don't want to (at least I don't agree to let Tony to) promote crappy "GURUs" stuffs to the list. List management is all about trust and the relationship with list, right?

The 300K unique visitors which Tony was mentioning, was just traffic, not yet a subscriber. But on my hand I do have around 300k of double opted-in subscribers.

Hopefully this doesn't sounds too insane man...

Cheers.
Aiden Chong

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butters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AidenChong

butters,

I can see why you're in that tone. Sorry for my mis-judgement too in my earlier post.

When Tony says 56 websites, he meant 56 small PPC networks. I am currently managing his list of 250k subscribers (not yet 300k, but still growing each day) . Exactly in the business opportunities realm.

I can show screen shoots of this but people may call this a lie too. What I can do is, offer you a REAL LIFE video screen shoot in Skype if you want. PM me about what you have to offer (quality products of course).

What he really meant in the title was , if you (all warriors, not just referring to any particular individuals

) are having 300k visitors per day, what would you do with that, some sort of mind provoking sentence

I hope you really don't get offended by what Tony has mentioned.

Tony, I've checked and you really did mention 56 WEBSITES (without mentioning that they are PPC networks

). This must be some sort of mis-information / misunderstanding and I hope that we warriors are not going to act like other forum member does.

butters, I hope I've cleared that up for you man.

Cheers.
Aiden Chong

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, PPC type websites are a whole different ball game and things like ad sense etc wont work and I am sure you know that.

If I was in your shoes, I would have separate landing pages which would segment the list by the adgroup they signed up from. (Or the place where your traffic came from) This would allow me to get more specific with the list, for example, if they sign up through a market research keyword you will know what sort of things to give them. By doing that and segmenting my list into categories within the Bizop niche then that would allow me to build a relationship around the right things and not things they might be interested in.

No need for skype etc...

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bizprivate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

Dude you said you got 56 websites with a total of 5 million daily visitors... That would mean roughly 100k a day to each of your 56 sites and your standing here asking about how to monetize them... I read the full post and I know what your asking, what I don't get is, if you have 5 million uniques spread across 56 sites, why are you asking such basic questions.

The reality is, if you build 56 sites with this amount of traffic, you would be monetising them already and making a killing doing so. Most of the answers here are basic, adesense etc, when in reality it is a lot more complex and you need to target certain types of traffic with certain types of offers. If you have a list you need to segment and narrow down your offers etc... but all you have said, yeah I got 300k traffic, help me out.

You then later say that you get 8k subscribers a day and that is only from one site... If this is the case then you obviously know what your doing, if your building a list at 8k a day, which is roughly 1-2million in a year then why aint you talking to the "gurus". Right now to me, this just looks like a whole lie, it may be true and a huge congrats if it but I right now, until I have seen some sort of evidence, I don't see the point in posting advice.

Dear Butters,

I'm not a rude person at all...so let me try to explain you some points in a very friendly way....ok?

I said and I own 56 websites....56 small ppc search engines (as I said before) that are monetized by my upstream providers. people search, click, I get paid. Simple like that. Got it now? Great. They have 5 million searches per day....my bad...not 5 million unique visitors. believe you or not....that's what I do since a decade.

I'm not asking any advices at all. Not that I don't need advices. I think everybody needs it from time to time, no matter how much you know or how much you "think" you know about any subject. I open the thread with the best possible intention, as I always do, to exchange ideas with other fellow warriors about ways to use 300K visitors a day. I'm not bragging at all, I'm not a Guru, I don't have an inflated EGO and I don't need to prove nothing at all. This is a Forum to like minded internet marketers willing to help each other...Am I right?

I don't remember that I said that I get 8K new subscribers a day from a single site. If I did, this is not true (I'll not read it all again to check...sorry). I have 8K new subscribers a day (in average) from all my sites that allow me to have an exit pop with a Biz Op form. Not all my upstream providers allow me to do so.

As I already make way more than I need with my business, I never worried about building a list. Maybe I was way lazy to do that (as it represents way more than create a form and give a free "something")...and I prefer to spend my time with wife and kids than making more money like crazy to end up dying and not enjoying my life. This is a personal decision, of course. I decided to build a list about a month ago, and I have a professional taking care of it for me. Once again, a personal decision. Could I be doing that since years ago? Yes, I could. Why I did not? Because I decided to do that only now. Simple.

You suggested that I should be talking wit the Gurus. Man...please forgive me if yo are a Guru, but I simply don't believe in Gurus. I believe in serious professionals that really DO what they SAY. I could list some here but you know the names for sure. I don't believe in "pretenders" that steal the average guy hard earned money based on impossible dreams. So, to avoid the risk of patnering with someone lile that, I prefer to go "under the radar" as the Gurus love to say. I don't need exposure. I don't want exposure.

At last, I'm sorry to say that I don't need to prove nothing for you or anybody else here. No offense please. Really no offense, believe me. I simply have no reason to prove nothing.

But...in case you have a good project, idea or website that you'd like to promote to Biz Op seekers, I'd gladly send you 50K targeted US visitors per day during two weeks to any website of your choice. For FREE, of course. Make as much money as you can and keep ALL for you. Just paste here the real proof of your earnings and let all fellow warriors to have access to that, with clean screenshots or, even better, not edit videos. This could be a good way to know me a little bit better, as you are so concerned about the veracity of my words.

And to those whom may concern, this is not a spam at all. I'm not a traffic seller, I'll not be a traffic seller, my traffic is not for sale at all, I'm not mentioning my sites, I'm not posting even a single link, I'm not selling eBooks or softwares. This is NOT a spam post at all. It's a straight reply to a fellow warrior.

Thanks a lot for your time reading, in case you did it....

Tony Rocha

PS. Please forgive me about any typos....I'm used to type way fast...:-)

PS.. Aiden, my dear list manager, I know you told me several times to not reply posts that seems to be agressive. But I don't think Butters was agressive this time, and I'd not being myself if I left his post without a reply. Thanks.

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bizprivate

14 years ago

Aiden,

I can't believe you did it again. You read my mind. I could swear that you were sleeping as it may be almost 9 AM on your end and you are still awake.
I forgot to mention that I own ppc search engines....ok....my bad...sorry Aiden, Sorry Butters.

Aiden...go to bed man...I need a rested list manager tomorrow...:-)

Take care guys,

Tony

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AidenChong

14 years ago

haha.. Your fault, and I would have to rest for two days because of this! One whole day of non-sleeping session... gosh.. Take things easy. We're all learning from this thread alone, agree?

Originally Posted by bizprivate

Aiden,

I can't believe you did it again. You read my mind. I could swear that you were sleeping as it may be almost 9 AM on your end and you are still awake.
I forgot to mention that I own ppc search engines....ok....my bad...sorry Aiden, Sorry Butters.

Aiden...go to bed man...I need a rested list manager tomorrow...:-)

Take care guys,

Tony

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Alright Tony man,

I like your style!

Words from the owner itself. I was trying to clear things up too, so that everyone who reads, will be benefit from this thread.

Glad you did clear it up, or else. I won't even have time to sleep and it's already 8 a.m in the morning ! LOL

Cheers butters, thanks for taking your time to reply.

Tony man. Let's talk again soon.

Originally Posted by bizprivate

Dear Butters,

I'm not a rude person at all...so let me try to explain you some points in a very friendly way....ok?

I said and I own 56 websites....56 small ppc search engines (as I said before) that are monetized by my upstream providers. people search, click, I get paid. Simple like that. Got it now? Great. They have 5 million searches per day....my bad...not 5 million unique visitors. believe you or not....that's what I do since a decade.

I'm not asking any advices at all. Not that I don't need advices. I think everybody needs it from time to time, no matter how much you know or how much you "think" you know about any subject. I open the thread with the best possible intention, as I always do, to exchange ideas with other fellow warriors about ways to use 300K visitors a day. I'm not bragging at all, I'm not a Guru, I don't have an inflated EGO and I don't need to prove nothing at all. This is a Forum to like minded internet marketers willing to help each other...Am I right?

I don't remember that I said that I get 8K new subscribers a day from a single site. If I did, this is not true (I'll not read it all again to check...sorry). I have 8K new subscribers a day (in average) from all my sites that allow me to have an exit pop with a Biz Op form. Not all my upstream providers allow me to do so.

As I already make way more than I need with my business, I never worried about building a list. Maybe I was way lazy to do that (as it represents way more than create a form and give a free "something")...and I prefer to spend my time with wife and kids than making more money like crazy to end up dying and not enjoying my life. This is a personal decision, of course. I decided to build a list about a month ago, and I have a professional taking care of it for me. Once again, a personal decision. Could I be doing that since years ago? Yes, I could. Why I did not? Because I decided to do that only now. Simple.

You suggested that I should be talking wit the Gurus. Man...please forgive me if yo are a Guru, but I simply don't believe in Gurus. I believe in serious professionals that really DO what they SAY. I could list some here but you know the names for sure. I don't believe in "pretenders" that steal the average guy hard earned money based on impossible dreams. So, to avoid the risk of patnering with someone lile that, I prefer to go "under the radar" as the Gurus love to say. I don't need exposure. I don't want exposure.

At last, I'm sorry to say that I don't need to prove nothing for you or anybody else here. No offense please. Really no offense, believe me. I simply have no reason to prove nothing.

But...in case you have a good project, idea or website that you'd like to promote to Biz Op seekers, I'd gladly send you 50K targeted US visitors per day during two weeks to any website of your choice. For FREE, of course. Make as much money as you can and keep ALL for you. Just paste here the real proof of your earnings and let all fellow warriors to have access to that, with clean screenshots or, even better, not edit videos. This could be a good way to know me a little bit better, as you are so concerned about the veracity of my words.

And to those whom may concern, this is not a spam at all. I'm not a traffic seller, I'll not be a traffic seller, my traffic is not for sale at all, I'm not mentioning my sites, I'm not posting even a single link, I'm not selling eBooks or softwares. This is NOT a spam post at all. It's a straight reply to a fellow warrior.

Thanks a lot for your time reading, in case you did it....

Tony Rocha

PS. Please forgive me about any typos....I'm used to type way fast...:-)

PS.. Aiden, my dear list manager, I know you told me several times to not reply posts that seems to be agressive. But I don't think Butters was agressive this time, and I'd not being myself if I left his post without a reply. Thanks.

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Man Greg,

I like your sentences in READ. I am thinking about the same thing. I would like to PM you bout that, is that OK?

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

i suppose the first question is what are you doing with them now?

I dont know about you , but if I had 300k biz op leads a day, I would be making approx 5m a month in profit without even having to think about it

1 - optimize your lead capture process. dunno about the lander or the traffic, but i bet with a few small tweaks can double your opt in %.
2 - bring them into a center of trust through content and personaility
3 - start feeding them offers, preferably your own (or the face you put on it)
4 - rinse and repeat.

if you are serious and need help, then pm

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bizprivate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

i suppose the first question is what are you doing with them now?

I dont know about you , but if I had 300k biz op leads a day, I would be making approx 5m a month in profit without even having to think about it

1 - optimize your lead capture process. dunno about the lander or the traffic, but i bet with a few small tweaks can double your opt in %.
2 - bring them into a center of trust through content and personaility
3 - start feeding them offers, preferably your own (or the face you put on it)
4 - rinse and repeat.

if you are serious and need help, then pm

Hi Greg,

Thanks for your post.
It seems you really know the matter. I'll ask Aiden to contact you. Please feel free to PM us anytime. And yes...I'm dead serious and interested in hear from you.

Take care,

Tony

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bizprivate

Hi Greg,

Thanks for your post.
It seems you really know the matter. I'll ask Aiden to contact you. Please feel free to PM us anytime. And yes...I'm dead serious and interested in hear from you.

Take care,

Tony

LOL ! you bet I've already starting the psychic engine and get into your brain even before you're able to think about that!

Done man.. Now because of you, my inbox will be boomed again! - Kidding!

YEap Greg, we're serious on that, please take your time to reply any of our PMs. Thanks a lot man, for the input...

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Floyd Fisher

14 years ago

Build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list.........

Get the hint yet?

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher

Build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list, build a list.........

Get the hint yet?

Thanks Floyd, and Tony is already doing that, rest assured for that, but it's only the matter of increasing the opt-in rate now

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Lett

14 years ago

A little from everything, adsense, affiliate, build list etc.

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Ilya Feynberg

14 years ago

This would SOOOO depend on what type of visitors the site is seeing. I would rather see 1,000 visitors that are exactly what I'm looking for than 1 million of those that don't matter. If they don't matter...then I would LOAD the site out with adsense even though I hate that "model".

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ilya Feynberg

This would SOOOO depend on what type of visitors the site is seeing. I would rather see 1,000 visitors that are exactly what I'm looking for than 1 million of those that don't matter. If they don't matter...then I would LOAD the site out with adsense even though I hate that "model".

Thanks Ilya for the input,

In this case, for a faster option, CPM with Tribal Fusion would be better, don't you think so? Since the traffic are SOOOO BROADLY-TARGETED, HIGH CPM model would fit this. What do you think about this?

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Paul Myers

14 years ago

The percentage who'll subscribe depends on a lot of things. Mostly what context they have in mind when they click the link to your site, and what you're offering them to sign up. The bonus offer also sets the tone for future options.

It's a process. An experience.

You might use an entry or exit pop-up, or just a standard call-to-action. Then monetize the follow-up page. That can be done a lot of ways. One simple and effective approach is to ask them to choose one of three things they might be looking for in the biz-opp range, and have each option take them to a relevant sales page.

An email follow-up sequence is an obvious component, but it has to be tailored to what they want. With that kind of traffic, getting that info should be easy. Back-end offers that relate to each product they might purchase can help you segment the group into lists of serious people vs freebie seekers.

Selling an email list is dangerous. Also, if there are people on it in the UK or EU, illegal there. The existing list is, if fresh, worth more than you'd get selling it anyway. Have you emailed them regularly?

Paul

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Hi Paul,

With due respect, THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY!

This is much of a respected warrior than some others (no offense to others, please). This is what we wanted to see. Thanks for your detailed answer man.

Really appreciate that and I will leave the important part for Tony to answer you

THANKS, Paul.

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

The percentage who'll subscribe depends on a lot of things. Mostly what context they have in mind when they click the link to your site, and what you're offering them to sign up. The bonus offer also sets the tone for future options.

It's a process. An experience.

You might use an entry or exit pop-up, or just a standard call-to-action. Then monetize the follow-up page. That can be done a lot of ways. One simple and effective approach is to ask them to choose one of three things they might be looking for in the biz-opp range, and have each option take them to a relevant sales page.

An email follow-up sequence is an obvious component, but it has to be tailored to what they want. With that kind of traffic, getting that info should be easy. Back-end offers that relate to each product they might purchase can help you segment the group into lists of serious people vs freebie seekers.

Selling an email list is dangerous. Also, if there are people on it in the UK or EU, illegal there. The existing list is, if fresh, worth more than you'd get selling it anyway. Have you emailed them regularly?

Paul

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Midas3 Consulting

14 years ago

300,000 uniques per day to a biz op site , 8K double opt in's per day.

a) Build a better opt in page, if it's done right you could be taking
40% of them , done really well perhaps more. Been following closely
a Deiss esq squeeze page done in a fitness launch lately, speaking
to the vendor he's been hitting 72% + opt in rate, admittedly
not cold traffic but you can do better than you are, especially if
the page focuses on one action.

b) Do a no risk opt in page so if they don't enter details, it "on exits"
to an offer without subscribing.

c) Segregate the list into sub interests if the source is varied.

d) Build a whopping sales funnel and start e-mailing.
You could make millions per month, just from traditional courses.

e) Search out vendors of the most popular legit biz ops, talk to them
about your numbers and negotiate a deal. Even the Kerns of this world
will fall over the place with 8000 unique double opt in biz ops being
sent to them each day.

f) Look at as many continuity style programs as you can , these
numbers should be making you millions per month if treated correctly.
Continuity is your friend, especially in biz op.

g) Decide what your focus is on the LP, don't add banners if you want
to build an opt in list. Don't add opt ins, if you want to get them to click
on banners, find a direction and divert every focus into getting them to take
that action.

h) Rapidly develop or purchase the rights to a decent IM product
for newbies and sell your own product with a low entry ticket price
and a whopping upsell. Build a sales funnel with a variety of upsells and
downsells (make one of them you're own continuity program.

That's a few options just for starters, based on the relatively vague
information we have on the lead source etc.

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bizprivate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

300,000 uniques per day to a biz op site , 8K double opt in's per day.

a) Build a better opt in page, if it's done right you could be taking
40% of them , done really well perhaps more. Been following closely
a Deiss esq squeeze page done in a fitness launch lately, speaking
to the vendor he's been hitting 72% + opt in rate, admittedly
not cold traffic but you can do better than you are, especially if
the page focuses on one action.

b) Do a no risk opt in page so if they don't enter details, it "on exits"
to an offer without subscribing.

c) Segregate the list into sub interests if the source is varied.

d) Build a whopping sales funnel and start e-mailing.
You could make millions per month, just from traditional courses.

e) Search out vendors of the most popular legit biz ops, talk to them
about your numbers and negotiate a deal. Even the Kerns of this world
will fall over the place with 8000 unique double opt in biz ops being
sent to them each day.

f) Look at as many continuity style programs as you can , these
numbers should be making you millions per month if treated correctly.
Continuity is your friend, especially in biz op.

g) Decide what your focus is on the LP, don't add banners if you want
to build an opt in list. Don't add opt ins, if you want to get them to click
on banners, find a direction and divert every focus into getting them to take
that action.

h) Rapidly develop or purchase the rights to a decent IM product
for newbies and sell your own product with a low entry ticket price
and a whopping upsell. Build a sales funnel with a variety of upsells and
downsells (make one of them you're own continuity program.

That's a few options just for starters, based on the relatively vague
information we have on the lead source etc.

Dear Simon,

Thanks for the COURSE you just gave us....
It's a real pleasure to read your post.
I'll contact you by PM if you don't mind.

Once again, thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge.

Tony

PS. Aiden....please follow this guys...CLOSELY...:-)

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Midas3 Consulting 14 years ago

Originally Posted by bizprivate

Dear Simon,

I'll contact you by PM if you don't mind.

Once again, thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge.

None of it rocket science, but you're more than welcome.

Yes, PM is fine, Tony, see response to Aiden.

All the best.
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AidenChong

14 years ago

Simon!

You don't know how much we appreciate your post here!

One thing though, you speak a lot in Deiss tone, I can see (I could be wrong about this). Traffic and Conversion? Were you in that? TAC, are you in that too?

Those are powerful stuff for sure!

Thanks for the insight and sharing man!

P/S : Tony I read your mind again

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

300,000 uniques per day to a biz op site , 8K double opt in's per day.

a) Build a better opt in page, if it's done right you could be taking
40% of them , done really well perhaps more. Been following closely
a Deiss esq squeeze page done in a fitness launch lately, speaking
to the vendor he's been hitting 72% + opt in rate, admittedly
not cold traffic but you can do better than you are, especially if
the page focuses on one action.

b) Do a no risk opt in page so if they don't enter details, it "on exits"
to an offer without subscribing.

c) Segregate the list into sub interests if the source is varied.

d) Build a whopping sales funnel and start e-mailing.
You could make millions per month, just from traditional courses.

e) Search out vendors of the most popular legit biz ops, talk to them
about your numbers and negotiate a deal. Even the Kerns of this world
will fall over the place with 8000 unique double opt in biz ops being
sent to them each day.

f) Look at as many continuity style programs as you can , these
numbers should be making you millions per month if treated correctly.
Continuity is your friend, especially in biz op.

g) Decide what your focus is on the LP, don't add banners if you want
to build an opt in list. Don't add opt ins, if you want to get them to click
on banners, find a direction and divert every focus into getting them to take
that action.

h) Rapidly develop or purchase the rights to a decent IM product
for newbies and sell your own product with a low entry ticket price
and a whopping upsell. Build a sales funnel with a variety of upsells and
downsells (make one of them you're own continuity program.

That's a few options just for starters, based on the relatively vague
information we have on the lead source etc.

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Midas3 Consulting

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AidenChong

Simon!

You don't know how much we appreciate your post here!

One thing though, you speak a lot in Deiss tone, I can see (I could be wrong about this). Traffic and Conversion? Were you in that? TAC, are you in that too?

Those are powerful stuff for sure!

Thanks for the insight and sharing man!

Your welcome.

No, I didn't attend the Belcher/Deiss T&C seminar.

Yes, it's fine to PM me.

I'm buggering off to bed now, I'm in the UK right now
so I won't be around to respond until I've had coffee
and bacon in about 12 hours time.

All the best.

Thanks
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AidenChong

14 years ago

Thanks Simon!

You know you've actually saved my live once in WF ! I'll tell you why in PM LOL! Thanks for that, I would say.

T&C is superb! Also for the TAC (Total Access Club) limited membership from Ryan too! They are the real deal man..

Well you get to sleep so early, while I am still replying you here! at 8 a.m in the morning! LOL..I need to get some rest too, and I think I will be in time to get in touch with you Simon. Let's try to talk over IM or PM.

Thanks for the post, really do meant it man!

Aiden Chong

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Your welcome.

No, I didn't attend the Belcher/Deiss T&C seminar.

Yes, it's fine to PM me.

I'm buggering off to bed now, I'm in the UK right now
so I won't be around to respond until I've had coffee
and bacon in about 12 hours time.

All the best.

Thanks
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Midas3 Consulting 14 years ago

Originally Posted by AidenChong

Thanks Simon!

You know you've actually saved my live once in WF ! I'll tell you why in PM LOL!

I'm intrigued , I saved a life.

Coffee ingested, PM at will.
- Thanks
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gjackson13

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

300,000 uniques per day to a biz op site , 8K double opt in's per day.

a) Build a better opt in page, if it's done right you could be taking
40% of them , done really well perhaps more. Been following closely
a Deiss esq squeeze page done in a fitness launch lately, speaking
to the vendor he's been hitting 72% + opt in rate, admittedly
not cold traffic but you can do better than you are, especially if
the page focuses on one action.

b) Do a no risk opt in page so if they don't enter details, it "on exits"
to an offer without subscribing.

c) Segregate the list into sub interests if the source is varied.

d) Build a whopping sales funnel and start e-mailing.
You could make millions per month, just from traditional courses.

e) Search out vendors of the most popular legit biz ops, talk to them
about your numbers and negotiate a deal. Even the Kerns of this world
will fall over the place with 8000 unique double opt in biz ops being
sent to them each day.

f) Look at as many continuity style programs as you can , these
numbers should be making you millions per month if treated correctly.
Continuity is your friend, especially in biz op.

g) Decide what your focus is on the LP, don't add banners if you want
to build an opt in list. Don't add opt ins, if you want to get them to click
on banners, find a direction and divert every focus into getting them to take
that action.

h) Rapidly develop or purchase the rights to a decent IM product
for newbies and sell your own product with a low entry ticket price
and a whopping upsell. Build a sales funnel with a variety of upsells and
downsells (make one of them you're own continuity program.

That's a few options just for starters, based on the relatively vague
information we have on the lead source etc.

Great post, ... how about using a quiz to segregate the list on the front end? By adding a quiz you could find out more information about your website visitors and be able to better target them.

Thanks

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J Bold

14 years ago

Wow, I would love that amount of visitors per day. It boggles the mind and I'm nowhere near that. I think very few are nowhere near that. Of course build a list, and you're already going that. Perhaps some split testing with pop-ups to see if that helps your list building go up.

There's a lot of great info in here, and I don't know what much to add. I'd only say, make something interactive that keeps them coming back. This could just be a blog and responding to the comments people make. But something to keep them coming back. Anything. Give them what they want or like and they'll keep coming back.

You must be getting lots of PMs for JVs. I see Aiden has partnered with you. He's a great guy! I will be sending him a PM about a possible JV.

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johnhoefer

14 years ago

If I were you, I would develop the most advanced and profitable advertising alternative to monitizing websites, blogs and email lists. Then, I would call it cashhub or something.

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SamstaUK

14 years ago

I would suggest:

1) Find out what they want
2) Offer a free eBook/Video/Software/Anything Useful if they sign up to your mailing list
3) Create or Promote a product via the mailing list
4) Track which emails/keywords/product perform the best, and focus your efforts on the most effective ones.

Hope that helps!

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Charleskidd

14 years ago

I would focus on email snatching and direct sales.

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Jason Jensen

14 years ago

Before you know it, we'll see a WSO on how to get 3 million visitors per day. The best part is they'll only charge you $7 and give you step by step instructions on how to do it.

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Trace some of my posts and also bizprivate posts using the forum's search function and you will know what we made more than that without a WSO.

But thanks for your concern. We have already got some of the best mind working together with us now. WSO is for people who is in need of certain knowledge (in a hurry), but in this case, we are creating threads to give out knowledge if you even care to read the whole thread man

Again, thanks for your input, Jason, it's a valid input and it's also a valid hesitation, I can see

Cheers mate...

Originally Posted by Jason Jensen

Before you know it, we'll see a WSO on how to get 3 million visitors per day. The best part is they'll only charge you $7 and give you step by step instructions on how to do it.

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TCmarketer

14 years ago

I'd simply promote my affiliate link. With 2% conversion from non targeted traffic i'd do quite nicely either way.

Edit: And that conversion stays as a monthly reoccuring income so it just builds and builds. I'm working on something to increase conversion ratio and if that worked out it'd be even sweeter.

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Popstar

14 years ago

IMHO, if you want to monetize to the max, I wouldn't send this traffic to someone else's link (no matter what it's for... affiliate, adsense, jv)... at least, not at the beginning. It's too easy for someone else to take YOUR potential customers away at the beginning and turn them into THEIR customers. You can always do the affiliate/jv thing later... after your customers know and trust you... and want to keep coming back to you.

If this is PPC traffic, then you should have a pretty good idea of what interests them. They're telling you by what they're clicking on. Center your first offers around that.

I sometimes build a list by giving something free and on the thank you page, offering an enhanced paid version. It's usually best if the free version can do the job, but the paid version will save them more time and be much easier or better yet, much more functional.

As others have said, it's hard to be specific when the only description of your customers is "biz op." That can encompass quite a lot.

But biz op prospects like things that are easy and don't take much time, yet show results. So I'd focus on something where they can get results quickly... not necessarily monetary results... but if it's putting up a website or creating an autoresponder or something basic that most newbies (if that's an appropriate characterization of your prospects) can't do yet, then you can give them something easy and fast with demonstrable results.

Depending on what they're looking for, you can give them part of what they want and sell the rest to them.

In my opinion, they have to see a fast and easy result first. Then you can start hitting them with the paid stuff because they know you deliver.

Also, I would think of more than just an initial offer. Think about what the next logical steps are for what they want to do. That will give you an idea of what your backend products should be. That's where the real money lies.

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AidenChong

14 years ago

Popstar,

Thanks for this!

A good way to manage one's list! I bet those who are in your list are all happy customers/subscribers

Arh, before I forget, do you have any "fast and easy" viable kind of stuff that you happen to get to know about, so to speak?

Appreciate your input, man.

Thanks.

Aiden Chong

Originally Posted by Popstar

IMHO, if you want to monetize to the max, I wouldn't send this traffic to someone else's link (no matter what it's for... affiliate, adsense, jv)... at least, not at the beginning. It's too easy for someone else to take YOUR potential customers away at the beginning and turn them into THEIR customers. You can always do the affiliate/jv thing later... after your customers know and trust you... and want to keep coming back to you.

If this is PPC traffic, then you should have a pretty good idea of what interests them. They're telling you by what they're clicking on. Center your first offers around that.

I sometimes build a list by giving something free and on the thank you page, offering an enhanced paid version. It's usually best if the free version can do the job, but the paid version will save them more time and be much easier or better yet, much more functional.

As others have said, it's hard to be specific when the only description of your customers is "biz op." That can encompass quite a lot.

But biz op prospects like things that are easy and don't take much time, yet show results. So I'd focus on something where they can get results quickly... not necessarily monetary results... but if it's putting up a website or creating an autoresponder or something basic that most newbies (if that's an appropriate characterization of your prospects) can't do yet, then you can give them something easy and fast with demonstrable results.

Depending on what they're looking for, you can give them part of what they want and sell the rest to them.

In my opinion, they have to see a fast and easy result first. Then you can start hitting them with the paid stuff because they know you deliver.

Also, I would think of more than just an initial offer. Think about what the next logical steps are for what they want to do. That will give you an idea of what your backend products should be. That's where the real money lies.

Thanks

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Underradar

12 years ago

can u pm me the site just want to see how good it can be

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