How to find long tail keywords?

[avamarie]

I am using Google's tool, Wordtracker and Market Samurai. My question, let's say my initial keyword is "yeast infection cures" (sorry guys), when I use the above tools, it will come up with things like: how to cure a yeast infection, yeast infection cures, yeast infection remedy, etc.
How do you gather longer tail keywords like: yeast infection vs. candida, or yeast infection and eating sugar, etc??

Or are these unnecessary? I figure the initial keywords would be too general therefore too competitive.

Thanks!

[jkt777]

I think you are trying to get too "long". If it's a very long phrase there will probably not be enough searches. Some other warriors can probably give you a better idea of what numbers to look for, but this is what I do.

I open two windows or tabs with one being adwords tool and the other google.com.
I start with a broader term like "yeast infection". This may give you some phrases you didn't think of like it just did for me (Male yeast infection gets 30,000 searches a month). There's a niche for someone.

Using the adwords tool, I click on "approx search volume" to sort by most searches.
On google I type in "" and copy phrases from adwords tool and paste them between the quotes to see how many sites have that phrase.

Using this method here are a few that look promissing:

"yeast infection remedies" 12000 searches 20000 results
"natural yeast infection cure" 6600 searches 13700 results
"how to treat yeast infection" 3000 searches 16000 results
"infant yeast infection" 3000 searches 9000 results

I think I have read here that it can be pretty easy to compete with search results under 100000.

You also need to check the top sites for links and seo to see if you can compete.

I have only recently started trying to learn about keyword research so hopefully some more experienced warriors will elaborate and let us both know if my method is on the right track.

Joel

[jacstone193]

Originally Posted by jkt777

I think you are trying to get too "long". If it's a very long phrase there will probably not be enough searches. Some other warriors can probably give you a better idea of what numbers to look for, but this is what I do.

I open two windows or tabs with one being adwords tool and the other google.com.
I start with a broader term like "yeast infection". This may give you some phrases you didn't think of like it just did for me (Male yeast infection gets 30,000 searches a month). There's a niche for someone.

Using the adwords tool, I click on "approx search volume" to sort by most searches.
On google I type in "" and copy phrases from adwords tool and paste them between the quotes to see how many sites have that phrase.

Using this method here are a few that look promissing:

"yeast infection remedies" 12000 searches 20000 results
"natural yeast infection cure" 6600 searches 13700 results
"how to treat yeast infection" 3000 searches 16000 results
"infant yeast infection" 3000 searches 9000 results

I think I have read here that it can be pretty easy to compete with search results under 100000.

You also need to check the top sites for links and seo to see if you can compete.

I have only recently started trying to learn about keyword research so hopefully some more experienced warriors will elaborate and let us both know if my method is on the right track.

Joel

Thanks for the tips Joel - very useful !

[avamarie]

Yes Joel, that is very helpful and I appreciate it thank you. I will give this a try.

Tiffani

[logosi]

nice Joel... don't forget checking your own traffic logs, which will often reveal some long tails no one (or no engine) had thought of.