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Old 10-16-2008, 02:01 PM   #1
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Default Ultimate Article Strategy... Or not? ALL WARRIORS

I am building my second income source and plan to do it mostly from articles. Hoping to get some input from the ALL WARRIORS.

I was laying in bed this morning day dreaming of seo and link building (thats when you know your in trouble) used to daydream about girls, now its google bots and clickbank! Anyways I wanted to run by an idea for my article linking campaign. Bear with me.

So lets say I have my main site I am going to promote. For now no deep linking just the homepage and some directly off the homepage. I write an article for keyword ABC. I write 6 or 7 unique articles around the same theme for keyword ABC.

I then MANUALLY submit them to the top 6 or 7 article directories. The reason I want to manually submit them is because I've found on many sites you can put anchor text within the body of your article where it is surrounded by rich LSI words instead of just in the resource box. I will have each anchor text a little different for each article.

I wait for all articles to be approved and go live. THEN I go over to Submit Your Article and for those of you familiar I get to put in an article and then modify it so it creates a dozen VERY unique articles that are 50-80% unique. So I will put in one of the ABC articles already written. And generate dozens of copies.

Submit Your Article then allows you to make multiple resource boxes. So what I was gonna do create 6 or 7 resource boxes and link to those previous articles I wrote and manually submitted.

I will be outsourcing this to my virtual assistant so really this strategy comes down to how effective it might be. Otherwise I can just have her submit it to Submit Your Article and save the step of manually submitting but I thought having the anchor text within the article body would be very effective. Also submit your article doesn't submit that many articles with the anchor and instead usually does a lot of the http://www.abc.com stuff.

So anyways can I please get some input on this strategy. So 2 main questions
1. Would the strategy be much more effective than just using SYA
2. What are the MUST SUBMIT to article directories. Don't want to waste time submitting to no follows or such. Can someone please tell me the ones that I DEFINITELY need to include in my list. Even if it's more than 6 or 7.

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Old 10-16-2008, 02:27 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ultimate Article Strategy... Or not? Steve?

I make money with article marketing, but I'm not Steve W. - sorry.



I don't mean this to sound harsh, but if you are only interested in Steve's reply, then a private message would be a better choice. Otherwise you are basically saying you don't value the opinion of thousands of other Warriors. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but I'm sure some WILL take it that way.

Why not get as many takes on it as you can? Like I said, not trying to be harsh, but helpful.

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It sounds like an effective strategy if all the articles will be unique content so it won't be penalized. Of course the most popular article directories to start with would be EZA and goarticles.

It would most likely come down to the keywords you select. Using that many articles you are going to have to get a long list of words that have lower competition. But this is all dependent upon the niche.

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Default Re: Ultimate Article Strategy... Or not? Steve?

From what you've outlined I'd say it should be more effective to go beyond just using SYA by using LSI keywords in your anchor text in your article body if allowed at the article directory you have in mind along with your article bio's.

One thing I've noticed is the fact that when using keyword anchor text in my article bio's that leads to the same keywords as my sites page works better.

The only 2 article submission sites I'm using right now are EzineArticles and GoArticles. Maybe someone will chime in on others they are using right now.

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Old 10-16-2008, 02:46 PM   #5
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I make money with article marketing, but I'm not Steve W. - sorry.



I don't mean this to sound harsh, but if you are only interested in Steve's reply, then a private message would be a better choice. Otherwise you are basically saying you don't value the opinion of thousands of other Warriors. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but I'm sure some WILL take it that way.

Why not get as many takes on it as you can? Like I said, not trying to be harsh, but helpful.

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Thanks for your valuable input Michael. Yeah as you see I have a few posts in this forum and I know how it works. But thank you for telling me about the instant messenger feature. And yes I also agree if Steves reply was ALL i wanted I would instant message him. But I didn't so any input from fellow warriors would be greatly appreciated.

What is up with this nitpicking stuff?

Thanks for the dean and ucheo. Yeah i was going to include goarticles and eza for sure. And i will take into account making lsi keywords my anchor txt. Im thinking about varying almost every anchor txt with something different. Thanks guys

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Old 10-16-2008, 02:53 PM   #6
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I make money with article marketing, but I'm not Steve W. - sorry.



I don't mean this to sound harsh, but if you are only interested in Steve's reply, then a private message would be a better choice. Otherwise you are basically saying you don't value the opinion of thousands of other Warriors. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but I'm sure some WILL take it that way.

Why not get as many takes on it as you can? Like I said, not trying to be harsh, but helpful.

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I have to agree with Michael. This is a slap in the face to other Warriors
who are a hell of a lot smarter than I am.

Dean, in my opinion, is one of the real sharp guys when it comes to
article marketing and I can name a dozen people here with a lot more
smarts than me.

Besides, I don't agree with 3/4 of what people do when it comes to
article marketing because I march to a very different drum.

I don't spin articles, so right there, I don't like your strategy. It's just a
personal thing with me. Each article I write is unique.

As for directories, I've never had any luck with anybody other than EZA so
I don't bother with the rest. But there are some people who love GoArticles
and others.

Bottom line: Test. That's what it comes down to. Try your system and see
how it works. If it doesn't give you the results you're looking for, dump it.

I think you're going to find that many of your articles are getting you no
views at all or very few.

But like I said, test it and see.

I also suggest you modify the title of this thread and take my name out of
it. It's easy to do on the fly. Just double click to the right of the last word
in the title and you can modify it right there.

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Old 10-16-2008, 03:04 PM   #7
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I have to agree with Michael. This is a slap in the face to other Warriors
who are a hell of a lot smarter than I am.
I really wish I wasn't being flammed for this. It was NOT intended as a slap in the face. I know there are people better than you steve. I just happen to know that when you do respond you give VERY detailed answers and you use many of the same methods as I do. I tend to agree with what you say many times and it goes with my marketing style.

So let me say again. This was NOT intended to offend other warriors. I included that steve part because steve tends to leave very long detailed answers and even goes above in beyond by offering other advice and some of his own tips and tricks.

Please understand I was not slapping warriors in the face.

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Old 10-16-2008, 03:11 PM   #8
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I really wish I wasn't being flammed for this. It was NOT intended as a slap in the face. I know there are people better than you steve. I just happen to know that when you do respond you give VERY detailed answers and you use many of the same methods as I do. I tend to agree with what you say many times and it goes with my marketing style.

So let me say again. This was NOT intended to offend other warriors. I included that steve part because steve tends to leave very long detailed answers and even goes above in beyond by offering other advice and some of his own tips and tricks.

Please understand I was not slapping warriors in the face.
I understand that you didn't mean it that way, but trust me, that's how
it comes off.

As for the long detailed responses, there's really not much to say here.

I am more of a custom article writer. I don't like spinners and I don't like
plastering my articles all over the place, so in that respect, I have a bias.

Therefore, you need to speak with people who do these things and find
out what kind of results they get.

A lot will have to do with the niche too. The variables involved in article
marketing are a lot more than most people realize. I am in so many niches
and do the same thing for each one. Yet, the results that I get from one
niche to the next can be miles apart.

Why is this? Well, a lot has to do with competition. But it's more than just
that. It's how much demand there actually is for your information. How
much can people get for free elsewhere and get there problem solved?

This isn't a one size fits all thing which is why when somebody says, "I
want to do xyz for my articles for THIS niche, will it work?" I can't
possibly give an answer. I have had niches that I abandoned so fast it
would make your head spin. At the same time, I have had niches that have
taken off so fast that I literally wrote around the clock for them, realizing
that I had hit a gold mine.

The results you get, for whatever plan you use, are going to vary depending
on way too many factors to get into in a forum post.

Like I said...test it and see what you get.

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Old 10-16-2008, 03:15 PM   #9
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I will be testing. I just wanted to see what some of the input is. I would like to go unique for EVERY article but I'm just not sure if that will be cost effective vs. the other way. Thats where the testing will come in.

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I really wish I wasn't being flammed for this. It was NOT intended as a slap in the face. I know there are people better than you steve. I just happen to know that when you do respond you give VERY detailed answers and you use many of the same methods as I do. I tend to agree with what you say many times and it goes with my marketing style.

So let me say again. This was NOT intended to offend other warriors. I included that steve part because steve tends to leave very long detailed answers and even goes above in beyond by offering other advice and some of his own tips and tricks.

Please understand I was not slapping warriors in the face.
No problem Jake. Like I said, I wasn't trying to be harsh. Think of it as more of head's up, some people would take it the wrong way.

The only reason I said anything is because I saw your post had not received a response, and I thought that may have been part of the problem.

But, it looks like you have changed the post to be more general (thank you), and you also got a response from Steve. I'd call that win-win.

Just to be clear, I'm sure your intentions were good and I had no (nor do I have any) hard feelings. Just trying to help.

Enough of that.

It looks like you have thought things through. I agree that you will need to test your results. In fact, you may soon be the go-to expert in the field.

All the best,
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You may want to try SearchWarp.com. Depending on your niche they can provide some really good traffic. For example one of my niches is in the fashion industry. In this niche I get way more traffic from SearchWarp than I do from EzineArticles.

One of my articles got over 27,000 views during the last couple of years from SearchWarp and the exact same article on ezine, submitted on the same day received only around 2300 views.

That being said, my articles on weight loss get almost no daily views on SearchWarp. So it does depend on the niche.

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Old 10-17-2008, 01:20 PM   #12
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You may want to try SearchWarp.com. Depending on your niche they can provide some really good traffic. For example one of my niches is in the fashion industry. In this niche I get way more traffic from SearchWarp than I do from EzineArticles.

One of my articles got over 27,000 views during the last couple of years from SearchWarp and the exact same article on ezine, submitted on the same day received only around 2300 views.

That being said, my articles on weight loss get almost no daily views on SearchWarp. So it does depend on the niche.
John I've noticed that on search warp also. Thats funny that you say that. I will be in the weight loss niche on this next product so i'll have to test it out thanks

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