Can money be made without spending money

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I have struggled for the last 8-10 months trying to earn a consistent £400-£500 a month by Affiliate marketing via the likes of Amazon and have failed miserably.
I have been using Google Adwords but i find i either spend more than i get in returned commission or make very small amounts which total less than £75.

I am not asking for the world here in earnings so my question to the forum is "can £400 be made via Affiliate Marketing or something other than Ebooks? "

Can anyone in this industry give me a straight "yes this is how you do it" without me having to buy an Ebook or pay thousands of pounds cash out only to discover its another ebook scam.
No-one seems to give a straight answer or i have missed the point and ebooks are how everyone makes a living and people just constantly selling crap to each other.
Well thats my cards on the table

Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author richgrad
    You make money either by using 1) time or 2) money you already have and are willing to invest

    To make money using time, you can write articles and submit them to popular article directories. Please don't expect to get results with 1 or 2 articles... You might be able to see some sales with 100 articles... like I said, you need to spend plenty of time on this.

    I used to rely on free methods to make money until I realize that it's taking too much of my time and isn't the ultimate objective of IM time freedom?

    So I invested in google adwords and did a lot of testing... Think about it... when you go start up a conventional business, how much do you incur? $20,000? $30,000? Just to start up and pay rent...

    IM is so much cheaper... if you just take 10% of that or less to do research and testing on adwords, I guarantee you'll see results... if you get sales but are making losses, then change some things around and test again... if you breakeven even better, change CPC, frequency, landing page, headlines etc and test again...

    Once you found a winning product, you can scale up... and let your money work for you...

    It's simple but it's not easy

    There is no magic pill my friend...
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    answer is a clear yes, when i started i didn't have one penny to my name, i couldn't even afford a domain!

    The beauty of it is that the huge majority of things doesn't cost anything, with the exception of a few bucks for hosting/domain..but even there are alternatives.

    You can start article marketing, making hub pages or other web2.0 properties, writing an ebook and so forth and it doesn't cost a thing.

    The problem is NOT MONEY (dont forget you want to earn money not spend it!) but rather things like how to get traffic, keyword research and so forth. Nothing of that has anything to do with spending money.

    "can £400 be made via Affiliate Marketing or something other than Ebooks? "
    yes, and double-yes. Ask any super affiliate. You could make this every day and then more. Its not easy, it takes dedication and skills. Just read around here on the forum, look at what other people do.

    As a first step, you need to get away from the thinking that you need a certain amount of money. Dont get hung up on the thought you need $XYZ to make $XYZ - it would just hinder you from doing things and you would focus on the wrong priorities.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lasse
    yes the best free way to do it would be google seo, if you have a website and manage to build good seo and good backlinks to "long phase key words" you can get free search engine traffic within 1-3 months, but most people reinvest the money the make to grow and build more sites and buy backlink services ect. good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author onuel
    Article Marketing - free
    Blogging - free (or spend $20/month, better)

    Combine the two and do it consistently for 8-10months = $400/month or more easy

    Article Marketing strategies and guides - plenty of free info here.
    Blogging same thing.

    The TRICK is you do it, and you do it REALLY GOOD and CONSISTENTLY. You have to have a GIVE in mind rather than TAKE when doing it What I mean is give quality info, a REAl quality info, not copied, not spinned, not shortcut. An article that has blood and sweat put into it by way of real research and high profile references (not ideas copied from other blogs/website that for all you know also copied from other blogs/website).

    However if you are looking for a get rich quick with little or no work, then you will get scammed everytime. Might work shorterm, but never long term.
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    • Profile picture of the author jrussell
      There's actually alot of information here on the forum already that should answer your question. Yes, money can be made without spending money (well without spending alot anyway). You probably will need to have a domain and hosting though.

      Amazon is a good way to make £400 a month. Why don't you tell us exactly how you've tried to promote Amazon products or maybe show one of your sites - you might get some good feedback that can help you scale up what you've been doing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mikael-C
        The real secret is not time or money, but action and focus...
        You don't have money - ok so we suppose you have time
        you don't have time - we suppose you have money
        Most of people can have the both in different proportions - but the real question is could you stay focus until you reach your goals ? instead if you fail without give it up...
        Are you ready to change the things, your attitude, your strategies if you do it in the wrong way...? think about it - most of the time people continue to do the same things and hope different results, they do it again and again...they wish they wish but they get the same results. You need to be ready to change, follow one sucessful person, do the same and stay focus...without be too lazy and without procrastination...

        It's like if you say...I want to make $15k/month but i have only $5 to spend...Everything is possible then you could do it - but don't hope to do it overnight - you need to work , be smart, add value to others people and stay focus...everyday.

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      • Profile picture of the author Online1
        Originally Posted by jrussell View Post

        There's actually alot of information here on the forum already that should answer your question. Yes, money can be made without spending money (well without spending alot anyway). You probably will need to have a domain and hosting though.

        Amazon is a good way to make £400 a month. Why don't you tell us exactly how you've tried to promote Amazon products or maybe show one of your sites - you might get some good feedback that can help you scale up what you've been doing.
        All i have done is pick a particular product from Amazon and make a campaign in Google Adwords. Using a Keyword tool to find the best suitable i then attached these to the campaign.
        Set a minimum spend per click and waited. I have no website the advert just directed customer direct to Amazons page. The hardest part i find is choosing what people will be buying.
        Well this is what i have been doing what have i been doing wrong, right or should change
        cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author werner77
      yes, the free way is the hard way to make money, but will teach you alot about your market and IM, so article marketing is the way to go. if you have money you outsource, if you dont you write the articles yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Hatfield
    My advice would be to take the campaigns that you were breaking even or making a small profits with ppc and try to rank those pages organically in the natural search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author Louise Green
    Yes you can. I started with a free Geocities page (how bad was that eh) and built up from there, taking what small profit I made and putting it back into my *cough* business.

    Eventually it paid off and started to grow.

    So yep, you can do it without spending any money.. but! You will make more money, and make it a lot faster, if you spend a little along the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gog
    Yes but it takes time to build up your organic ranking and reputation for your site as an expert in your niche. Its about picking the right product as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyroneshum
    This is a great question!

    Well, absolutely yes! By just learning from free stuffs and effective tips online, you can create your own product, utilize it and then provide value in it. There, you could start building your lists by giving away great freebies and then once you've gathered an enough start, proceed pushing your way to have a "paid" service.

    Remember, the moment you charge, that's the main indication that you're getting more and more valuable so even if you charge more, people will be willing to pay for it because they know they know you're worth the price.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheNewGuy2010
    Yes, but to really ramp things up, you can spend a little.


    Originally Posted by Online1 View Post

    I have struggled for the last 8-10 months trying to earn a consistent £400-£500 a month by Affiliate marketing via the likes of Amazon and have failed miserably.
    I have been using Google Adwords but i find i either spend more than i get in returned commission or make very small amounts which total less than £75.

    I am not asking for the world here in earnings so my question to the forum is "can £400 be made via Affiliate Marketing or something other than Ebooks? "

    Can anyone in this industry give me a straight "yes this is how you do it" without me having to buy an Ebook or pay thousands of pounds cash out only to discover its another ebook scam.
    No-one seems to give a straight answer or i have missed the point and ebooks are how everyone makes a living and people just constantly selling crap to each other.
    Well thats my cards on the table

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Originally Posted by Online1 View Post

    I have been using Google Adwords but i find i either spend more than i get in returned commission or make very small amounts which total less than £75.
    Mark
    The fact that you have made ANY money from Adwords shows that you are
    on the right track. You have already determined some winners so you need
    only now rinse and repeat. Do some more testing and don't give up too
    soon.

    Thinking about this, a great IM product would be an "Adwords stock adviser."
    The same way that you can buy subscription to stock advice--what
    stocks to invest in--this time you get what products to advertise.

    So you run a ton of test and give the members the winners--but
    maybe there would be too much competition.

    -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author waken
    You're giving me the impression that you have bought a lot of those money making ebooks...and had chosen PPC to be your choice of traffic source..

    But from what you're now looking for ..
    Just dump PPC and choose a free traffic driving method instead from those stuff in your hard drive..

    STICK to it... test and tweak till you make enough to venture into other avenue..

    BTW, the answer is a "yes" but just must expect to work a lot harder than if you have the cash to spend on..

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Charleskidd
    If you want to go with free ways to make money then consider doing sites for organic search. It takes longer but it will help you without spending money on ppc. The biggest problem is traffic so consider learning a lot about back links before you start and seo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Online1
    I have no issue with paying for the PPC as long as the costs dont out way the rewards. I am prepared to spend a budget of £100 per month initially to get some results. So i suppose the key is to finding the correct product (via Amazon i suppose) and use the correct keywords.......yes?
    So how do i find which products are selling...........trial and error i hear you all scream but this could take forever, there must be an easier more logical way
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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    Alexa and Raydal are right.

    Yes, of course it's possible to make
    money from affiliate marketing. This
    is the internet. Pretty much anything
    is possible.

    I started out as an affiliate, and I
    made high five figures in my first
    year, and I had NO IDEA what I
    was doing.

    If you're making at least some
    money, you're on the right track.

    Business is about expanding profits
    and minimizing losses.

    Have you considered Clickbank for
    products, instead of Amazon? It's a
    different ballgame, but you'll likely
    see higher commissions and conversions.

    Hope that helps.

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    Step 2: Find products that fit your content and place your affiliate links in your content.
    Step 3: Link to your content like mad. Spend a month or two dropping thousands of links... and linking to the links.
    Step 4: Repeat steps 1-3

    After a year or two, you'll be making great money.
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  • Profile picture of the author gambit
    Look.....

    If you want the 'secret'.......its this:

    Internet Marketing is a business. period. full stop.

    If you begin trying IM thinking that its anything else, you're in for a rough ride.

    The same things that make any business work are what makes IM work:

    1) is there a market? what are they buying?
    2) what is my competitive advantage? barriers to entry? USP?
    3) what is the price point? break-even analysis? Will this offer make me money?
    4) What does my Profit and Loss sheet look like? is it a net gain or a net loss?

    Can you make money without selling an e-book? absolutely.
    Can you make money without giving value to a profitable market? nope. not for long anyways.

    The real secrets are the basics.

    P.S. It took me almost a year and a half to figure that out. Hopefully this post can save you some time and money.
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMaker Guy
    I would think that the key to any successful PPC campaign is having done the research of your market before even looking for the product to sell. If you establish that there are hungry buyers then find a product whether on Amazon, Clickbank, Commission Junction etc.

    Assuming you've done the research, If your CPC is overtaking your ROI that could mean 3 things:

    1. You are in an extremely competitive niche with fellow bidders bidding high on the CPC.

    2. Your product is not converting for reasons such as poor landing page, product or lack of buyers.

    3. You are getting slapped by Google for a high CPC for lack of relevancy between your ad structure, landing page and what Google thinks the prospects are actually looking for.

    A free method could be to stick up a free blog review site and give your prospects knowledgeable product info for them to make a choice on. We all like to have choices.

    Not knowing what your niche is makes it difficult to advise 100%.

    Good luck and keep trying, testing and tweaking.
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    • Profile picture of the author Online1
      Originally Posted by MoneyMaker Guy View Post

      I would think that the key to any successful PPC campaign is having done the research of your market before even looking for the product to sell. If you establish that there are hungry buyers then find a product whether on Amazon, Clickbank, Commission Junction etc.

      Assuming you've done the research, If your CPC is overtaking your ROI that could mean 3 things:

      1. You are in an extremely competitive niche with fellow bidders bidding high on the CPC.

      2. Your product is not converting for reasons such as poor landing page, product or lack of buyers.

      3. You are getting slapped by Google for a high CPC for lack of relevancy between your ad structure, landing page and what Google thinks the prospects are actually looking for.

      A free method could be to stick up a free blog review site and give your prospects knowledgeable product info for them to make a choice on. We all like to have choices.

      Not knowing what your niche is makes it difficult to advise 100%.

      Good luck and keep trying, testing and tweaking.
      This is probably my biggest issue i do not have a niche! All i do is pick products at random from Amazon which i feel are popular, good quality products and what may sell and thats it. This is the part were i get slaughtered no doubt.
      I do have a web site for my current job (i'm self employed by the way) but this is a very competitive market. I am still looking to find valeting products to sell via an affiliate and then this could be my niche.
      www.auto-shine.uk.com
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      • Profile picture of the author MoneyMaker Guy
        Checked out your site. It needs some work to get your rankings up in the search engines. This will bring you more enquiries and possibly more work.

        You are talking about selling supplier products as an affilaite. Why not approach them with a proposition to place one of there ad's on your site and charge them a residual monthly fee to do so. This could become regular passive monthly income.

        I am in the UK if you want to chat?? Send me PM as I cannot send you one yet.
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        • Profile picture of the author mymoney5243
          Yes but it si difficult. Have you looked in the Warriors forum where there is a WSO member showing you how to make money with Google News for Zero dollars? You might want to check that out.
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  • Profile picture of the author BeanCounter
    Yes, but it is very hard and generally takes longer. I know if I had some capital at start up, I would have hit the ground running much faster. But then again, I may have blew it on useless training as well.....
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  • Profile picture of the author George Gomez
    Yes, you can make money without spending money, you just have to provide value to someone or a group or people.

    How do you provide value? You find a need and provide a solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author specopkirbs
    the phrase it takes money to make money instantly sprung to mind, however this is just not true, well not on a large scale anyway,
    i think to do anything in IM you need a little investment ($10 could be enough for some hosting and domain), thats if you want to do it properly.
    there are thousands of things you can do for free, i mean checkout the WSO's there are some great free methods.
    But a little investment can go a long way if done right.
    If you have money to spend and want a quick return that can also be done too, PPC is a great way to make fast cash IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING, do your research and hit those long tail keywords and save yourself a fortune.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Can anyone in this industry give me a straight &quot;yes this is how you do it&quot; without me having to buy an Ebook or pay thousands of pounds cash out only to discover its another ebook scam.
    I can and I will. Affiliate sales + adsense + SEO It might not be the supper sexy WF WSO way but it works, you will make money and it's only going to cost you the price of a domain and hosting. You could pull this off for less than $20 a year if you're really strapped for cash. Buy a domain + hosting Install wordpress Figure out what you are going to sell. Affiliate programs are a dime a dozen from weight loss to dating to porn. Learn the basics of on and off page SEO Pack your site with some content. Get as many backlinks to your site as humanly possible + 3 more just in case. Write articles or spam the universe with profile backlinks. Following this method will get your site ranking in search engines, bring organic traffic looking exactly for what your site is about and if you're pushing a product they like they will buy it. Like I said, it's not the super sexy list building make 30k in 30 days method but it does work, it's practically free and anybody can do it if they are willing to put in the time. It's so easy even a caveman can do it. ***hmmm... formatting is not working for me.... perhaps I shall reboot and fix this mess of text.
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    • Profile picture of the author SmartFX
      If your desire is that you don't want to spend money for earning money it wouldn't be very tough if you have enormous amount of time to be spent. The best way of earning money in this way is writing good and quality articles. There are many websites that will buy your articles if the content is relevant to their site or you can write them according to site owner's desire. If there is no such occurrence, you need not to be worried. You can submit the articles in the article directories as like ezinearticles.com, abcarticledirectory.com, buzzle.com and similar other directory sites. You can earn from the directories though advertisements by Google Adsense and etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
      Listen to Jason, because what he has said does work!...hell it's working for me, and it will work for anyone who puts in the work!

      Its slow and tedious but if you have the desire to succeed which it sounds you do, then you wont care about making a few cents/dollars a day for a while, because you will see the potential and see some money coming in everyday.

      Please try it and try nothing else, just follow the method.

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      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      I can and I will. Affiliate sales + adsense + SEO It might not be the supper sexy WF WSO way but it works, you will make money and it's only going to cost you the price of a domain and hosting. You could pull this off for less than $20 a year if you're really strapped for cash. Buy a domain + hosting Install wordpress Figure out what you are going to sell. Affiliate programs are a dime a dozen from weight loss to dating to porn. Learn the basics of on and off page SEO Pack your site with some content. Get as many backlinks to your site as humanly possible + 3 more just in case. Write articles or spam the universe with profile backlinks. Following this method will get your site ranking in search engines, bring organic traffic looking exactly for what your site is about and if you're pushing a product they like they will buy it. Like I said, it's not the super sexy list building make 30k in 30 days method but it does work, it's practically free and anybody can do it if they are willing to put in the time. It's so easy even a caveman can do it. ***hmmm... formatting is not working for me.... perhaps I shall reboot and fix this mess of text.
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by Online1 View Post

    I have struggled for the last 8-10 months trying to earn a consistent £400-£500 a month by Affiliate marketing via the likes of Amazon and have failed miserably.
    I have been using Google Adwords but i find i either spend more than i get in returned commission or make very small amounts which total less than £75.

    I am not asking for the world here in earnings so my question to the forum is "can £400 be made via Affiliate Marketing or something other than Ebooks? "

    Can anyone in this industry give me a straight "yes this is how you do it" without me having to buy an Ebook or pay thousands of pounds cash out only to discover its another ebook scam.
    No-one seems to give a straight answer or i have missed the point and ebooks are how everyone makes a living and people just constantly selling crap to each other.
    Well thats my cards on the table

    Mark
    Yes, you can. You will have to invest your TIME.

    But last time I checked ... TIME also equals MONEY!

    Focus on PPC and learn how to swim with the big boys, you succeed much quicker at this game

    Any questions just let me know,
    Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author jerem
    Yes it is possible using free blog service such as blogger and write blogs!!! Than submit your blogs to blog directories and after that you place ads on your blog !!! Use affiliate programs or adsense!!! Learn how to SEO your blogs and posts !!! If you have time and no money you can spend your time and make money!!!
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