Ezine Articles Adapts Real Time Submission Rejection

I'd have to read the articles, which I'd like to do, since this issue has a major bearing on one's ability to get their product visible above all the noise, and make money.

I think it sucks for you as the author. But I also think that it's EZAs site and they get the final word.

It sucks Steve...but there isn't much you can about it.

I know your articles are top quality, it seems EZA is losing focus on what they are all about. Quality articles is what makes the site survive and without fresh content coming in, they are only killing themselves in the long run.

Who knows...maybe you caught an editor on a bad day.

But judging from what you have shared on this forum about article marketing...it seems the traffic is too good to give up?

I haven't had this problem yet. I don't understand why they would reject your new article when someone can copy my articles, spin them slightly, submit them and be accepted. This software must be something new. Maybe they need to turn down the power on it a little.

John P

I've always been a bit annoyed at EZ and now they've rejected upgrading me to plantinum status for the 2nd time. I think I have to go 25 articles without getting one rejected to get that status :/ Which is like nearly impossible now when you're talking about Ez .. errr.

Another one of my accounts were suspended also and not even sure why :/

I think I'd have spent the time writing another article,
blog post or ezine instead of posting a rant on this forum

John

Personally I am not impressed but as many of you know I am not a marketer... This is one article on EZA approved 9/17/08

Article(s) Views: 97
Profile Views: 54
Articles Published: 2
URL Clicks: 7
Votes: 1

It says 2 published but there is only one, the 2nd one was rejected just because the mention of The Rich Jerks in the body .. No link, no url just the 3 words.

James

I had a different situation.

I got a mail from Ezine Articles saying that a link in one of my articles is down. I checked it and yes, it was down. In the mail, they had asked me to change the link and resubmit the article. I did the same. I went to my admin page, changed the link in the author bio and resubmitted it to them. It said there is already an article with the same content and it suspects that the article is duplicate.

Guess they should stop trying those software programs and continue doing the work manually.

I have similar problems myself, when they rejected me few times, I just delete that article!

Write again and submit the same topic in different words, got accepted. And they have good traffic, so I don't mind they rejecting me.

My rejected article is posted on other hundreds of directories, I don't care...

I moved on from EZine 2 months ago and have no regrets whatsoever. After 2 years I finally got fed up and moved on. Posting a few of these articles on a couple of the other article directories as well as using the rest for blog posts, squidoo, hub pages, etc, has done wonders for my traffic. They are going to put themselves under with all the tactics and nonsense. But that's there problem to address. There's many other ways to get traffic without having to deal with all the Ezine drama.

After 6 months, traffic levels from 20 EZine articles: no more than 10 per day
After 6 months, traffic levels from 20 webpages on own domain: 20-30 per day

Go figure.

P.S

This is yet another warning signal that article marketing is not only temperamental, but also crude. Why crude?

Because hard work results in no loyalty, recognition or special treatment from EZine articles.com . They sure are happy to collect thousands upon thousands in Adense and related sales though aren't they? Guess who's funding that? You.

The fact that they suspend credible authors without warning, and often without solid grounds, is awful. Where's the customer retention? Where's the loyalty? Where's the community spirit? More like a faceless corporation in my mind.

Eggs and basket indeed.

P.P.S

The sad thing is, they do not need a bunch of marketers to survive as there will always be an abundence of people who will write and publish on their sites till the end of time.

I can see why they want to strip out the junk because they have to consider ezine owners and other publishers who want quality content. If there's too much similiar content, there's no republishing going to happen and that will kill off the entire purpose of their site.

The giants in my book (ie, Problogger.net, Copyblogger.com) did not build up their empire with EZA or any article directory. They did it with good content. This will always be the rule of the internet: good content wins.

Steve, you have the ability to build this empire with your writing. You do not need EZA anymore. It needs you.

Amazing...

money making goals has been developed by The Rich Jerks. - original rejected...

money making goals has been developed by several internet marketers. - Changes approived in 1 hour...

Now to me and again I am not writer... I don't consider myself one anyways but I think that is a little overboard of being strict just by 3 little words ..

James

Only at WF do you see this...

I think people will continue to pay and put up with the difficulties at EZA because of their several million page views a day and decent PR.

Considering the thousands upon thousands of dollars that site has earned for several members of this forum, they probably have earned the right to be as selective as they need to be to improve their business.

While there are several other great directories to submit to, none of those can match EZA's 275 Alexa rank, Though there are a small few that are close. Just submitting to a new directory will not improve many peoples business.

Steven, as well established as you and your sites are, you will have no problem simply writing for your own sites and building good traffic. But for many lesser known's, EZA will continue to be the go-to directry for a long time to come.

Just my opinion, Best of success!

have you tried 'spinning' it? I hear contentboss is quite good...

:-) :-) :-)


sorry Steve, but that's just too funny!

I think bashing posts are against the rules.
That's all this post is.

Hi Steve,

You are absolutely right in my opinion about EA and some of the rejections they are immediatly putting out. I have had this start to happen to me over the last two weeks as well.

I had one article that I wrote completely fresh and new that was a review of a health philosophy where I mentioned a certain product twice since it was part of the story and they said it was to commercial.

Then I had several other rejected for using a keyword to much. I was a little upset because [no ego intended] I have an English degree and have actually made a living as a writer in another life and I have been writing quality articles. Compared to some of the absolute crap articles currently on EA with poor grammer and very vague information of little value I felt like I was doing all this work for nothing.

People are getting articles declined everyday.
What if they all posted about it here?

My suggestion is that if you traced the issue down to a specific paragraph and this is the first time this has happened to you, then just fix the paragraph and move on.

Frank Bruno

Rework the paragraph then resubmit.

Not sure what the problem is here aside from the brutal algorithm the EZA software piece is using to gauge uniqueness but then again, that's their prerogative to implement as to ensure quality and not yours.

I have noticed that Eza have turned Nazi a while ago. Im totally for article marketing but only to a certain extent.

I think article marketing is a great way for someone to start out when trying to make money on the internet. But why post your personal origional content on their site and let them make money from it.

Steven, i and this forum know that your an article writting force to be reckoned with, so why dont you keep your content on your own blog and make twice as much from it.

You are pretty much the most well known and most trusted person on this forum so i think you could have a blog with 50,000 subscribers and a PR 7 in no time.

With that sort of authority you could rank number 1 for any long tail article title you wrote and not have to settle for a position 8 or 9 with Eza.

Origional content is gold on the internet these days so keep it to yourself and not share it with these ungrateful sites like EZA.

Steve,

As a matter of fact, you and I happen to be working in the same niche, which is why I keep an eye on your articles as well as on a number of other competitors in that category (in fact, I have an RSS feed for your articles in Google Reader).

From experience, I can tell you that you do tend to repeat yourself - but, let's be honest for a second there, so does everyone else who relies on volume submissions to EZA for their traffic.

One needs to be honest here, I think - SEO aside, the only way to truly benefit from EZA is to have hundreds of articles, which eventually start generating acceptable levels of traffic on their own even without Google placements.

According to Chris Knight, his ideal vision for article submission is for the author to continue submitting more and more articles to drive traffic to their website. That's fine and dandy - the problem becomes when he also asks for the articles to be unique.

As we all know, there's only really so much stuff you can say on a certain subject before you start repeating yourself (especially considering our niche). At this point, you're faced with a choice - either you continue repeating yourself but phrase every article uniquely and mix and match points (which is what you do, from what I have observed) or you limited yourself to 100% original articles, and therefore shoot yourself in the foot when it comes to traffic, as well as contradict Chris Knight's long-term vision for EZA.

Personally, I think repetition is acceptable, so long as its phrased uniquely. Submitting articles to EZA is a bit like placing items on a conveyor belt - if you want your item to always be on it, you have to keep placing new copies of it over and over again. With such a requirement, 100% originality is obviously impossible to achieve.

Oh, and Steve, don't get me wrong - I'm not saying you spin your articles or anything; for what it's worth, I think you're an incredible writer, and the whole point of my post is to demonstrate that reasonable repetition with valuable content should not be frowned upon - and this, I believe, is the unwritten policy at EZA.

Bob, You say Nazi. Someone else, a few days ago, referred to them as the Gestapo.

I understand that we all make unfortunate analogies from time to time, but do you folks actually realize what you're comparing them to???


Paul

Yes Paul I do realize what I was comparing them to actually. They really ticked me off that day.

I can see the late-night TV ad already: "Are you tired of waiting 5-10 business days to find out your articles were rejected for no apparent reason? Well those days are over, because with our amazing new software you'll be rejected within seconds! We guarantee the fastest rejection in the article industry! You can even have your rejections sent immediately to your cell phone..."

I have to say that on this particular topic.. I trust Chris' Knights vision here...

I may not agree with everything he has done, but if this is a result of him tightening the rules a little, then it's a good thing... if it's a bug with the site, then you may be better going here Steve:

Contact EzineArticles.com

But on the whole I do think it would benefit us all if the repetitive content was policed more.. I'm guilty of repeating myself in my articles too Steve... so a bit of a shake up will only keep me on my toes, so it's a good thing..

And also, I am a firm believer in keeping my best content on my sites anyhow

Peace

Jay

OK, everybody got the bashing off their chests? Thread title changed...can us article marketers have our thread back?

Thanks.

Steven,

This "death" is inevitable...but not for everyone. I've done a lot of research lately and without giving away the farm here, I believe that 90% - 95% of the article directories out there today will be gone in a years time. (This does not include niche directories that are supplemental to a higher or the same level in the same domain)

It won't be mandatory that all of the directories that want to survive emulate Chris's seemingly harsh decisions. He is in a very unenviable position right now because any change that he feels needs to be made at HIS directory is of monumental proportions and will effect so many more people. It's a lot easier for me and most other directory owners to implement a change without a lot of recoil.

Change is happening NOW and the directories that do not do the right things are going to dry up and blow away. I see it starting already with some directories (ones that would shock you if I mentioned their names).

But they don't have to go overboard - Chris kind of does.

I have really only seen Buzzle, ArticlesBase and, of course, Website-Articles.net make these "mandatory" changes lately.

OK, I'm rambling now...Again, it's just business. And it's about to get pretty cutthroat, IMO.

AL

I think you missed where he said it was not a rejection by a human editor, but by the software as soon as he hit the submit button. That was his whole point.

Waiting for 20 WSO's on "The Death of Article Marketing" in 3...2...1...

Seriously though...I have articles in EZA dating back to 2004. And as much as everyone may not like it, the reality is that, like anything else that has been abused by marketers, EZA needs to tighten the reigns and clean their site up. The volume of what I would consider to be "crap" articles in there is alarmingly high.

(And so no one thinks I'm the pot calling the kettle black. I have about 100 articles in EZA, and about 25 of them fall under the "crap" category. I'll soon be deleting them off the system, as I no longer want my name associated with them.)

It seems like the best options going forward will be to either spread your articles across other directories, or repositioning yourself as an author who only writes top-notch articles for EZA.

If they reject an article? No biggie. It either goes on your site, or another directory. And while you're at it, re-write the article and try EZA one more time. If they still reject it, put it up on Squidoo, HubPages, etc. and move on.

I'm guilty of putting blinders on too sometimes, but the bottom line is, an article has FAR more overall value to it then strictly limiting it to EZA and *only* EZA.

~Mike

I am sure EZA is reading all of this. No company wants this much concern shared over popular forums. Tweaking of the automated system is probably taking place as we speak. God only made one perfect man and one perfect woman--when they messed up they got us all into dutch with Him. He had to send His son down here to get us back on track. Just imagine if He had to depend on a computer program to keep us straight. For those of you who don't believe, forget this post and keep on keeping on with EZA. Sooner or later we will learn where Allen's directory resides. Apparently TRJ has something coming down the pike. Steven is the E. F. Hutton of article production--when he writes people read! Great thread and good info in the various sigs. Click, click, click.

Promise?

Personally, I can't wait for that day to come!!!

(P.S. Steve - my previous comment above had nothing to do with your specific article, just the general direction that AM seems to be heading. If it came off sounding like I was speaking of you directly, then I apologize. Definitely NOT my intent!)

Hi Steve...

I had the exact same thing happen to me this evening. I was shocked when it came back immediately that an another article had similar content and mine was rejected. It was in a nano-second. I don't even know how it could have searched the database in that length of time.

So I'm here to back you up! This was totally computer generated. I guess it's good in the fact that you dont have to wait for days to see if it's gonna fly or not.

But it was a bit disconcerting...because of how fast it reached a decision.

And I think this is the place for people to share information isn't it? Article marketing is a huge part of Internet Marketing. At least I thought so

Steve, thanks for starting this thread...at least now I know it happens to the best

I too had problems with EZA. Few of my articles got rejected which is quite frustrating. Even after rewriting them, they still got rejected, reason being duplicate content. That's when I started to post my articles to Buzzle.com.

I've never had any problems with Buzzle and the best part, they even allow affiliate links and some of my articles in Buzzle got listed in Google pretty well. But I didn't stop submitting my articles to EZA. This is what I normally do.

I try submitting my articles to EZA first because of the good traffic that you can get if your articles are approved. But if EZA reject my articles, instead of rewriting them (which can sometimes be a real headache), I then submit them over to Buzzle which most of the time got approved (I've never had any articles that was rejected by Buzzle). Few days later, my articles (from buzzle) got indexed and was on the first page of Google.

This process works for me but if any of you guys have better ideas, please advice me. I love good and new ideas.

Regards,
Didi