Squeeze Page> Sales Page, Affliliate Link

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Hi,

I've noticed many click bank vendor sites have a squeeze page (page that collected emails) as the first welcome page, once the person enters their email address they are taken to the sales page and can make the purchase.

My question is how is the click bank affiliate link taken from the squeeze page and put onto the sales page so that the affiliate get their share?

I've check a few ways of doing this but can't seem to work it out, a hidden value in the email form, cookie, meta refresh...

Thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    The affiliate cookie is dropped once the person clicks the affiliate link. It doesn't matter what page the customer lands on, as long as they checkout on the same site using a Clickbank payment link, the affiliate gets credited.
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  • Profile picture of the author koncorps
    Cookies stay for 60 days.

    Vendors are suppose to credit their affiliates with any sales made from the email follow ups.

    And if the prospect buys on the next page (the sales page) they've all ready been cookied so you should get the credit for sales?

    Is that your question or am I just running blanks here?

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  • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
    I would NEVER promote a CB product who has an opt-in form on their sales page. As an affiliate, YOU'RE job is to do the presell, then let the vendor hit them with a sales letter. Building someone else's list AND allowing them to potentially take credit for your sale is just silly when there's so many vendor's WITHOUT these traffic leaks out there to promote.
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    • Originally Posted by Branlan17 View Post

      I would NEVER promote a CB product who has an opt-in form on their sales page. As an affiliate, YOU'RE job is to do the presell, then let the vendor hit them with a sales letter. Building someone else's list AND allowing them to potentially take credit for your sale is just silly when there's so many vendor's WITHOUT these traffic leaks out there to promote.
      No man, it's your stance what's silly...

      Your job as an affiliate is NOT to pre-sell them. Your job is to simply drive targeted traffic to the best converting offer for that niche. The sale is done by the vendor, not by the affiliate. The affiliate is just there to drive targeted traffic.

      As long as the vendor is honest and meaning he doesnt over-write your cookie, and as long as he has a decently-crafted autoresponder sequence to further promote his product (and figuring that out is YOUR responsibility as an affiliate), you WILL profit more as an affiliate driving traffic to a squeeze page than to a final sales page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    This is an ongoing debate in this forum actually. It's been proven that 95% to 99% of visitors won't buy on the first visit and an effective email followup process will dramatically increase the affiliate's conversions. However, some affiliates are so stuck on the vendor building a list or stealing the leads that they would rather make less money promoting something else. Ironically, these same affiliates are too lazy to have their own email followup process in place.
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    • Profile picture of the author MoneyMaker Guy
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      This is an ongoing debate in this forum actually. It's been proven that 95% to 99% of visitors won't buy on the first visit and an effective email followup process will dramatically increase the affiliate's conversions. However, some affiliates are so stuck on the vendor building a list or stealing the leads that they would rather make less money promoting something else. Ironically, these same affiliates are too lazy to have their own email followup process in place.
      I tend to agree with you that although putting a prospect through a double squeeze page scenario, the real trick I'm lead to believe is in the follow up and identifying with your prospect eventually developing a relationship with them. After that I'm sure the sales will flow
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    • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      This is an ongoing debate in this forum actually. It's been proven that 95% to 99% of visitors won't buy on the first visit and an effective email followup process will dramatically increase the affiliate's conversions. However, some affiliates are so stuck on the vendor building a list or stealing the leads that they would rather make less money promoting something else. Ironically, these same affiliates are too lazy to have their own email followup process in place.
      But if you have the initiative to build your OWN list in the niche (which is what I do) then why wouldn't you? That way you still have the advantage of an email series to warm them up to the idea AND you don't have to worry that some vendors AREN'T so honest in making sure your cookie stays intact.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        It's an ongoing debate in every forum in which affiliate marketing's discussed.
        I think that's because there are valid points on both sides of the debate.

        Some affiliates feel that when the lead has been produced by their skills, time, energy, effort and money, they want the lead on their list, not on the vendor's list.
        More power to those affiliates who do that. I actually encourage that. However the fact is, most affiliates don't build their own list and also don't want the vendor to build a list either - even if it results in more sales for them both.

        Whatever gives you that idea?! :rolleyes:
        I'm a vendor of many products with thousands of affiliates over the years. I can count on one hand the number of affiliates who build their own list. They're usually in so many different niches that they can't be bothered to manage a list in each one.

        All that vendors need to do (and many are doing it, of course) is have a duplicate copy of their sales-page without the opt-in, for professional affiliates who build their own lists and want to use that one instead. It's easy enough to do! If a vendor really won't provide that, one's entitled to draw one's own conclusions about why that would be (and then to promote other products instead - fortunately there's no shortage of choice, to facilitate that!).
        Professional affiliates with Clickbank know how to promote their own landing page and link directly to the Clickbank checkout page.

        If you're making the silly mistake of excluding high converting products just because they have an opt-in, you're probably leaving a lot of money on the table.

        Telling people that an opt-in form means don't promote is simply bad advice.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            How do you know?
            I make it a point to pay attention to the affiliates who are generating real traffic and sales and learn what they're doing to succeed.

            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            When I followed it last year, it was great advice, just as it had been for others before me. It took me pretty suddenly from earning almost nothing to earning a decent four-figure monthly income. Like many other affiliates, I'm actually very grateful indeed to the people who explained it to me.

            Rock on Alexa. Keep at it and five figures a month is not far away.

            You're right that a vendor should provide a non-optin sales page alternative to professional affiliates like you. However, maybe an affiliate should ask the vendor first instead of automatically excluding a product just because of the opt-in.

            For the 99% of affiliates who don't have time to manage a list in every different niche, I still think it's in the best interest of both parties for the vendor to have a followup process in place.
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            • Profile picture of the author Geoff A
              Wow - great thread. As a beginner in Affiliate Marketing the discussion going on here is enormously helpful!

              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


              Increasingly, professional affiliates making a good living are advising others never to promote products that have a vendor's opt-in on the sales page. For some of us, taking notice of this increasingly widespread advice was the biggest single factor that led us from making almost nothing to making a good living.
              Hi Alexa - so the idea is to check the vendors sales page and see if it has an opt in? If it does (and no alternative sales page without an opt in is available), immediately look for another product?


              Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

              I'm a vendor of many products with thousands of affiliates over the years. I can count on one hand the number of affiliates who build their own list. They're usually in so many different niches that they can't be bothered to manage a list in each one.
              Hi Ron, in your experience is it always more lucrative to have a list in every niche you promote? I see myself being knowledgeable to be able to sustain a list in some areas - but not in others. Could the effort involved in list maintenance ever be more profitably spent in other activities - e.g. just doing simple product promotion with no list?

              Thanks for the input to the thread!
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              • Originally Posted by Geoff A View Post

                Hi Alexa - so the idea is to check the vendors sales page and see if it has an opt in? If it does (and no alternative sales page without an opt in is available), immediately look for another product?
                That is what Alexa seems to be advising. However I TOTALLY advise you against that. Don't decide on whether to promote a product or not depending on whether there's an opt-in form or not. Focus on conversion ratios instead. If a vendor has a decent follow-up sequence and if he is legit (meaning he doesn't overwrite your affiliate cookie), you WILL make more money if sending your traffic to a squeeze page than to the final sales page.

                Your job as an affiliate is to determine which vendors have a good sales funnel with a good email sequence. If that's the case, there is absolutely nothing wrong promoting squeeze pages.
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                • Profile picture of the author Geoff A
                  Hi Alexa - thanks for the reply. Yes there are some really good products out there that I am thinking of promoting even though I don't have that much knowledge of the niche - I believe in the product

                  Anonymous Affiliate - thanks for the reply. I am also curious about the cookie - if I refer to an opt-in page (before the prospect hits the sales page)- how does the cookie get tracked back to me? Is there any way to tell if it does or doesn't?

                  (OP I hope this is still on-topic -)

                  cheers
                  Geoff
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  • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
    Thanks Alexa, I was pretty sure we'd hear from you on this one lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
    I'm liking this thread actually, some nice things I haven't heard before and re-enforcement of some I have.
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