Why the hell is there such a love affair with Wordpress?

14 years ago

This is not the first time I have whined about Wordpress here on the forum. So here I am again whining like a cry baby. I am just really fed up of this platform.

Build your own pages and move on. Or - you could try a hard refresh by hitting CONTROL R. Maybe that'll do it :-)

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Loren Woirhaye

14 years ago

Wordpress can do a lot, and it's relatively simple to learn considering
its power. But it may be a more complex platform than you have the
patience to learn right now.

Blogger is WAY easier. And less powerful.

There's things like Weebly too.

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LynnM

14 years ago

Originally Posted by timpears

So I get my code from Google, and put it in, the preview shows nothing but a blank area.

It can take 15-20 minutes for Adsense to show up on a site.

Lynn

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Matt Morgan

14 years ago

6 Quick reasons People love Wordpress

1) It is a simple Content managment system, so you dont need extreme knowledge of HTML or creating a website- in other words it is easy for a newbie to set up

2) Google loves WP blogs, so traffic can increase (aslong as you do backlinking + Basic SEO concepts)

3) Wordpress has loads of cool plugins which allow you to do some cool thinkgs

4) Wordpdress has an rss feed you can submit to directories

5)You can monertize (moneytize) your blog with adsense (using plugins
again)

6) Compared to a website, using WP can allow you to Ping and update the SEs, this can tell the SEs that your blog has been updated, and is easy, eg- using pingomatic

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bgmacaw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Morgan

1) It is a simple Content managment system, so you dont need extreme knowledge of HTML or creating a website- in other words it is easy for a newbie to set up

True, until they need to color outside the lines. At that point, they hire somebody or bang their head on the wall.

Originally Posted by Matt Morgan

2) Google loves WP blogs

There's no indication of that this is true although everybody and their brother's sister's cousin repeats it all the time.

Originally Posted by Matt Morgan

Wordpress has loads of cool plugins which allow you to do some cool thinkgs

True, provided that they work and don't need anything complex to manage them properly. You also should probably include themes in this as well.

Originally Posted by Matt Morgan

4)[/B] Wordpdress has an rss feed you can submit to directories[B]

6) Compared to a website, using WP can allow you to Ping and update the SEs, this can tell the SEs that your blog has been updated, and is easy, eg- using pingomatic

This is built into many other CMS systems and can be done manually as well.

Overall, I think there are a lot of pluses with WordPress but I don't think it sports a cape and flies or is the solution to every site you might want to create. I create a lot of HTML, PHP and ASP.NET sites along with WordPress sites. It just depends on what the task/job needs.

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rft123

14 years ago

To answer your question about why people love WP sites, it is because they are generally quick and easy to set up and they are very easy to modify because they have a lot of built in themes, plug-ins, etc.

Hope that helps. Have a great day!

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hawaiidave

14 years ago

WordPress is really simple. You are surely not dumb, you are probably just accustomed to something else. One of my partners keeps singing the praises of Joomla and he has a lot of nice sites - I just don't like it because I have WP down so good that I don't want to switch. The main reason though is that there are so many people out there using it and there are so many great free themes and plugins that make my sites more functional.

As far as the blank Adsense, did you wait a little while (10 mins or so) for it show up, or is it just not showing? Typically the adsense code in the side bar isn't an issue - just copy/paste. For the posts, use a plugin called whydoworkadsense - WhyDoWork.com AdSense Plugin for Wordpress There are others out there if you don't like that one for some reason.

WP is pretty easy to use and easy to customize....but if you don't like it, there are other great options out there - html, Joomla, Drupal - just find one you like, stick with it, and become a master at it. That way it's easier to concentrate on the money making tasks.

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tjs1954

14 years ago

Originally Posted by timpears

I am working on another Wordpress site, and I run into major problems, AGAIN. For the life of me, I can't understand why there is such a love affair in the internet marketing community for this platform. Maybe I am just dumb as a box of rocks, but I have nothing but trouble with it.

I had a site up with a few articles in it. One is a static page, the rest are posts. I was planning on monetizing it and putting some AdSense and banners in the articles. So I get my code from Google, and put it in, the preview shows nothing but a blank area. So, I wonder if this is just a quirk of the preview process and I check the site by pulling it up online. I don't get my home page, I get my privacy policy. I click the link to the article I have on the home page, I get the privacy policy again. No matter what I do, I get the privacy policy instead of the article I want to show when the site is first pulled up. I checked my settings and none of them have changed, they are all set right for that one article/page to show as the home page.

This is not the first time I have whined about Wordpress here on the forum. So here I am again whining like a cry baby. I am just really fed up of this platform. John Schwarts told me to use regular HTML and I was planning on doing that but I have got so rusty with building sites that I decided to practice a bit before I put one online. I think I am just going to let this site sit and rot while I get my editing skills up to par again.

Anyway, thanks for letting me let off steam. I am open and welcome to all comments.

Wordpress is very versitile and you can do about anything with all the thousands of themes and plugins. Once you learn it you will love it.

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Social Experts

14 years ago

I've never been a fan of wordpress. I loveeeee html, so much more freedom and you can see the quality and professionalism in great html pages.

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jasonmorgan

14 years ago

I've never been a fan of wordpress. I loveeeee html, so much more freedom and you can see the quality and professionalism in great html pages.

Considering wordpress is made up of html, css and other goodness... your point... pointless.

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Social Experts 14 years ago

Originally Posted by jasonmorgan

Considering wordpress is made up of html, css and other goodness... your point... pointless.

It's obvious what I mean.
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- jasonmorgan 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by The Freshmaker
  
  It's obvious what I mean.
  
  no, it's not.
  
  It doesn't matter if a site is wordpress, designed with dreamweaver or notepad. It's all html and css.
  
  The CMS backend of wordpress has no relevance to the appearance or professionalism of a wordpress site.
  
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Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago

LynnM is right. It can take some time for AdSense to begin displaying.

As far as WordPress goes, WordPress is overkill for a lot of sites. And, for other sites, it may not be the best platform.

Installed, WordPress eats up about 8 MB of space. Some people may think that 8 MB is nothing these days, but that adds up. Let's say your hosting account allows you 100 MB of space. With WordPress, you can only have 12 sites, and your space is pretty much eaten up. And that doesn't account for space for files, images, etc. Meanwhile, if you're doing straight HTML, you could likely fit a small website in under 1 MB of space. So, you're looking at hosting 12 sites versus 100. If your host allows you 10 times as much space, you're still looking at about 125 WP sites versus 1000 HTML sites. Of course, that's going to vary based on actual content and files, but you get the idea.

If all you're doing is small, simple sites, WordPress is really overkill. Plus, you'll have the additional time and headaches involved with keeping the thing up-to-date when a new security flaw is unearthed what seems like every other week and so on. With an HTML site, you don't have to waste time upgrading the blasted thing every time you turn around.

A couple years ago, I started moving a number of my sites to WordPress. Now, I find myself increasingly going the other way.

The most important thing is to analyze your own needs with your website, and determine what platform is best to handle those needs. Sometimes, it may be WordPress. Other times, it may not be.
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- timpears 14 years ago
  
  Well I learned something from this rant. I didn't think to wait for the AdSense to show up, I wasn't aware of the delay.
  
  But that really doesn't matter now, as I will look like a real dumb **** if and when I get traffic to this site and they can't load my home page and get my privacy page instead. They can't even get it if they click on the link to the article in the side bar, that also brings up the home page. Stupid **** like this, I can fix easy in a regular HTML page. All the different stuff going on in this Wordpress platform is way over my head.
  
  I admit, I don't have a lot of patience. If I did, I would be a doctor.
  
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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

lol ... don't know what you're doing wrong but Wordpress is so easy to me. I used to just build static sites and adding new pages was nothing but a pain, even with a Dreamweaver template to semi-automate it.

You get a great theme and upload it. You start posting. Posts get indexed very fast. It's easy as pie.

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Quentin

14 years ago

What I find that a lot of people who use Wordpress and used to do other forms of sites is that they tend to over complicate the process.

Set it up and add content. Yes there are a few tricks when it comes to making things out of the box happen but there are so many tutorials around you can usually get an answer.

I have made hundreds of sites with wordpress so happy to have a look for you.

Q

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maleeqa

14 years ago

I admit, I don't have a lot of patience. If I did, I would be a doctor.

lol..

wordpress is the best platform for me. that's why i love it so much. The things is we need patience to build it. Anyway , what we can do with wordpress is amazing..

you can do:
1- customized it.
2- automated sharing(if you know the plugin)
3- lots of theme.
4- mingle with each other.
5- online store..

..many things u can do with wordpress. that's why many people love wordpress and google love it too!..

regards,
maleeqa

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jasonmorgan

14 years ago

Timmy...

what are the problems with your site now?

let's see if we can solve this. it can't be that hard because I'm assuming you haven't touched any code so you've done something bonky with a setting someplace.

WE can fix this.

Teamwork... its a good thing. Not as good as using 'century gothic' font, but it's close.

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andrewwilkie

14 years ago

I'm pretty new to WP and liking it. It's great until you hit something like - WordPress › Support 2.9.2 site hacked Thankfully I'm pretty much fixed.

Hosting companies seem pretty shocking if you have an issue. The stock answer is, that's scripting we don't support scripting. Also the above has highlighted to me a lack of communication amongst hosts and support staff. I'm on the latest version of WP. Which they never seem to hear or note down. I think the last guy may have got it and he might even be doing something about it.

Nonetheless, 3 new site, 3 new WPs. I think it is really the community and the plugins that have sold it to me.

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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

I hate when people don't read the thread... just post and post and post.

The OP stated clearly in the first post: whatever link he clicks - the privacy plicy page shows up. (So, don't ask "what the problem is" - just learn to read

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Wordpress has loads of cool plugins which allow you to do some cool thinkgs

True, provided that they work and don't need anything complex to manage them properly.

Anybody able to put the 2 things together?

Who wants to bet there is some bad plugin that "helps" to create automatically a privacy policy... and it is either not working or the OP doesn't know how to set it up.

The troubleshooting that ALWAYS WORKS: deactivate all your plugins, set the blog to the default theme and go from there. Switch themes... activate plugin only ONE BY ONE - until you find the issue.

It is faster than posting in in the WF

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14 years ago

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Istvan Horvath 14 years ago

Originally Posted by dave147

Are there any disadvantages to it? like security? easily hacked? any disadvantages?

All of the above.

But that's not why people love it :p
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kchui1028

14 years ago

I never like Wordpress or any other CMS out there. I perfer to build my site with pure php and mysql database. There's companies out there that can help me create a custom CMS when i need it. it's much better in design and flexibility.

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entrepreneurjay

14 years ago

Their is such a love affair because a self hosted wordpress blog is the best in the business bar none. They are very professional looking, have tons of add - ons for you to improve the performance, monetization, and looks of your blog.

Blogger for example is not even in the same league never use free hosting platforms trust me I know from experience you will get your blog deleted for the slightest violation. Especially if you are promoting affiliate products.

Control your content, and use the best in the business Wordpress. Just learn how to use it properly and you will not regret it!

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Joseph Then

14 years ago

OK, I'm joining a few of those who don't use Wordpress...

I don't use Wordpress. Out of my 50+ sites, only 5 of my sites are Wordpress.

The rest are created from XSitePro.

Whatever plugins Wordpress has for SEO, I have the alternatives so it's not much of a concern.

Now back to timpear's topic...

Try follow the rest of the suggestions made by the warriors. If none of them works, do this: Change the theme. Bring it back to default Wordpress, see if it works.

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CDarklock 14 years ago
Originally Posted by Joseph Then

OK, I'm joining a few of those who don't use Wordpress...

All my sites start as raw HTML and become WordPress later, if at all. I think too many people are enamored of "click a button" with Fantastico, when honestly, most of my websites start out with this:
Code:

<body bgcolor="#CCCCFF" text="#000088"><table height="100%" width="100%"><tr><td align="center"><H1>Coming Soon
It's not even standards-compliant HTML. It's the bare minimum code to render what I want. I copy it from one site to another and just change the colors a little so I know which one I'm looking at.

And while that might be a little more work than clicking a button, honestly, it's just a drag-and-drop thing. I don't see why people commit themselves to WP immediately on setting up the site, when it might not even be the right platform.
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MichaelHiles

14 years ago

Another non-Wordpress user.

DotNetNuke all the way here.

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Damien Roche

14 years ago

Wordpress is so popular with internet marketers because they have more important things to worry about than what platform they are using.

It's free, quick and easy, with a huge support community, free and premium plugins and themes, extremely flexible and doesn't require any coding.

Really, you would be mad not to use it when first starting out and even as an established website creator.

Along with that, it has developed as a kind of common ground between internet marketers. It's now something most know how to navigate and use and so even more targeted support is born.

But, it does have it's downsides - which can be completely disregarded, because they are totally outweighed by the benefits.

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Oh, and I find it quite infentile how people are taking this attitude of - "well, I don't use it and I get on just fine". So what? It fills a need and then some. There may be better solutions but I'm sorry, wordpress has completely dominated this arena and I honestly believe will continue to for a long long time.

Wordpress as a blogging platform is like google as a search engine: easy peasy my 4 year old cousin could use it, but my 18 year old brother struggles.

I've lost my point...who cares. stop arguing! lol

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Anonymous Affiliate

14 years ago

I find Wordpress to be efficient for content-heavy sites with dozens of pages, posts, categories, etc because it's very convenient to organize/tweak it all in a sensible and SEO-friendly manner.

However, for a typical 5-page website, I don't see the point of using Wordpress. When I go for small sites with the standard squeeze page, sales page, contact page and little else, I never go for Wordpress.

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thebitbotdotcom

14 years ago

Hopefully, your adsense ad has shown up by now...

It takes Google about 10-15 minutes to figure out what your site is about so that it can post relevant ads.

To add to the hijacked part of the discussion, I think the reason many love wordpress is that you can set up a professional versatile site in just a few clicks. For those interested in generating content and not wasting time tinkering with HTML needlessly, a good CMS is the way to go. Joomla is another great one, through slightly different and a little more complicated to use.

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wiseleo

14 years ago

The amount of plugins to do what I need is massive. Any other approach would result in me doing custom development. Time to market with Wordpress is a matter of minutes (or seconds, in some cases).

I use it for single-page sites because it takes literally one click to setup an instance + flexibility theme.

I never build sites from scratch. Ever. It's much faster to do a one-click deploy of WP, quickly activate Flexibility and whatever other stuff I need to activate (I have an SQL script I can run to trigger these activations straight in the database so I don't have to do it through the interface).

WP is automatically backed up and I can add features without doing extensive testing.

A site running on Wordpress can be made to look like any other CMS site. No one would be able to tell.

I love having just one interface that I can use to build every site I need. If someone hacks me, that's really not a problem and I will detect changes to my theme files pretty quickly because my watchdog script will e-mail me a diff of changes. Nothing that is secure should ever be stored on a web-accessible server.

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