Are You An Ebay Seller?

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Alright Warriors

Are any of you an ebay seller, preferably someone who runs a business via ebay... If so this question goes out to you...

I am looking to set up my own business either selling computer stuff or Games consoles stuff... I have heard that the best way to go is to find a wholesaler that is from China, etc, and then purchase a quantity that way..

My fear is how do you know that the goods are genuine... You hear a lot of stuff from China can be fake.. So I am asking for is what sites do you use please??

I need some recommedations
#ebay #seller
  • Profile picture of the author noodle2005
    You cannot buy genuine branded electronic consoles / games/ computer stuff from a chinese wholesaler. No chinese wholesaler has the distribution rights for any branded electronics so if you get some they will be fake or knock off
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Duncan
    Byron,
    Years ago we were Powersellers with eBay...then eBay started getting pretty greedy with their listing fees and their final value fees.

    I just listed something recently and the fees came to almost 10% when you added them all up...and at the end of the day, we had about 16 people actually see the listing...just so happens the traffic is dying in this particular category at least...

    But...

    If you are sure this is the business model you want to get into...here are some good source suggestions:

    1. Worldwide Brands is a possible source for legitimate overseas products.

    2. Locate closeouts or business' who have gone out of business here in the U.S. (It'll probably be cheaper and you won't have to deal with the shipping/import hassle of overseas imports.)

    Be very wary of dealing with some of these overseas companies.

    We spent days negotiating a contract...and after all the work, they changed the pricing and terms at the last minute before shipment. So we lost all the time and effort building the relationship with the factory.

    Just be careful.

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  • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
    Exactly what computer parts are you looking for? Graphics cards, Hard Drives, RAM? I import computer cases from China.

    Also, look toward Amazon for your selling platform. eBay isn't doing the best at the moment.
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Originally Posted by FaJeeb View Post

      Exactly what computer parts are you looking for? Graphics cards, Hard Drives, RAM? I import computer cases from China.

      Also, look toward Amazon for your selling platform. eBay isn't doing the best at the moment.
      How did you find a decent wholesaler from China? Did you go out to China to see the goods first??

      I would be looking for a mixture of things, i.e computer cases, hard drive, monitors, ram, graphic card, keyboards, etc, etc
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      • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
        Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

        How did you find a decent wholesaler from China? Did you go out to China to see the goods first??

        I would be looking for a mixture of things, i.e computer cases, hard drive, monitors, ram, graphic card, keyboards, etc, etc
        I lived in Nanjing, China while I taught American English.

        I suggest you narrow down your search.
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Songster
    I second that... eBay isn't the best platform to sell from anymore
    hmmm electronics - I can't think of a more cut throat, flooded line of products then electronics.

    As too quality from China ...
    For the products I carry, I get numerous emails from factories in China that want to sell to me.
    Problem is, I know which factories my suppliers are using and its the same factories trying to sell to me direct. They are just cutting out my supplier and in many instances the license holder of the product.
    Not a cool way of doing business.
    Basically they are ripping off the same USA companies that have paid them to manufacture the product.

    Do I buy from China - yes - but I get them to manufacture my designs (which they are probably selling to someone else {sigh..} but thats the nature of doing business overseas.

    As for selling on eBay - look at who your competition is going to be for those electronics. Chance are there are several shipping direct from China. Its going to be hard to compete with those sellers.

    The only thing I sell on eBay anymore is over stock items or liquidations where all I want to do it move the product because I've had it in stock for too long and its slow moving in my regular stores.
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  • Profile picture of the author PJ Harmsworth
    Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

    Alright Warriors

    Are any of you an ebay seller, preferably someone who runs a business via ebay… If so this question goes out to you…

    I am looking to set up my own business either selling computer stuff or Games consoles stuff… I have heard that the best way to go is to find a wholesaler that is from China, etc, and then purchase a quantity that way..

    My fear is how do you know that the goods are genuine… You hear a lot of stuff from China can be fake.. So I am asking for is what sites do you use please??

    I need some recommedations
    I have run (and still do) several ebay niche businesses for the last 8 years at Platinum level. Buying branded items from China is not a good idea. China is only good for the manufacture of OEM/ODM products that you develop. It is better that you source the branded products from official suppliers within your country/territory.

    With regards to Ebay, traffic conversion is not good these days, compared to the 'old days'. This is down to several factors. The worldwide economic downturn is one of them, but ebay's constant changing / tweaking of their system is another. I could go on, but I will leave it there.

    A majority of sellers succeed on Ebay in 2010 by selling discounted, value goods, at high volumes with outstanding customer service (which you will not find at any other major sales portal on the net). Order today, pay the lowest price possible for the item and get it tomorrow, without paying a premium service/delivery cost. Also, the profit margins are generally very slim. If you are prepared to do this, you can succeed, but it is hard work.
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  • Profile picture of the author divineman
    If you can not buy branded iterms from your own country,then you must travel to China to dictate and see that the specification of what you need is done. For Ebay, foget about them now.
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    • I'm not an ebay seller, from the rumors I've heard I have second thought. Most people would look at the quality before buying and products from China I doubt it.
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      • Profile picture of the author salegurus
        I am a ebay powerseller selling mostly consumer electronics (digital cameras,lenses,laptops) but i have to agree eBay is not what it used to be excessive seller fees, which will increase in June are making it very difficult to make a decent profit since with consumer electronics the margins are low.

        Sourcing products from China is a tricky business:
        1. there are a lot of scammers
        2. you have to establish a personal relation ship with supplier, which may involve going to trade show in Beijing
        3. namebrand products not available from Chinese wholesalers only knockoffs
        4. checkout worldwidebrands they verify wholesalers for you (expensive to join about $300)
        5. look at liquidation auctions to source products in bulk, good deals to be had,sometimes

        Anyway if you have never sold on ebay i have a step by step guide,just PM me and i will send it to you.

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  • Profile picture of the author cpa-money
    everything that comes from china is FAKE. if the price is too low than its not the real product.
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    • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
      Originally Posted by cpa-money View Post

      everything that comes from china is FAKE. if the price is too low than its not the real product.
      You have no clue.

      The majority of things that are supposedly made in other countries, say Italy, England, United States, etc... come from China. I know this because I've seen it first hand, top quality products who were made for legitimate retail stores sell products who claim to be made in Italy are only distributed from Italy, but are actually made in China.

      You probably have 100 perfectly functioning things around you that were made in China.

      The truth is, if you plan on "importing something from China" you are probably paying two or three middle men their cut. If you have the ability to go right to a source of where something is actually made, or go to someone who holds the licensing for a specific product, and you haggle.. you would be amazed at how low you can buy things.
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      • Profile picture of the author PJ Harmsworth
        Originally Posted by FaJeeb View Post

        You have no clue.

        The majority of things that are supposedly made in other countries, say Italy, England, United States, etc... come from China. I know this because I've seen it first hand, top quality products who were made for legitimate retail stores sell products who claim to be made in Italy are only distributed from Italy, but are actually made in China.

        You probably have 100 perfectly functioning things around you that were made in China.

        The truth is, if you plan on "importing something from China" you are probably paying two or three middle men their cut. If you have the ability to go right to a source of where something is actually made, or go to someone who holds the licensing for a specific product, and you haggle.. you would be amazed at how low you can buy things.
        You are correct. Many Designer items that carry a 'Made In *****' tag, for example, are made in China, but are partially assembled in the perceived country of origin. When I say 'partially', sometimes it is just the final 'screw' to qualify to be called a 'Made In *****' product.
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  • Profile picture of the author orientantique
    There are a lot of fees to sell items on ebay. They should get some money when goods are sold. Not for just listing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr.Williamstn
      Man whew!!!!!!!! I bought a supposed Ipod from Dhgate and boy was it a COMPLETE knock off. Well personally I don't trust chinese electronics. It is true that everything we own is made from China
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    I agree that eBay isn't nearly as seller friendly as it once was, and using it as your primary vehicle for moving product is going to cost you much more than having your own digital storefront. It's a good place to acquire new customers, or to unload excess inventory, but the fees will eat you up.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author nykn43866
    remember to diversify... ebay is not the only marketplace. use amazon and others as well to gain maximum market exposure..
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  • Profile picture of the author mld_publishing
    I'm an eBay Powerseller, and I have imported from China on a couple of occasions. Everyone is right when they say that you're not going to get anything genuine. I will only import items that are not electric in any way....nor DVDs. My experience with these types of items is that so many of them don't work or are damaged, that it's not worth savings. Plus, you have to factor in the amount of time you spend communicating, since they are on a completely different time schedule. Not to mention the 35-45 days it takes to receive your goods.

    I always order a sample of a product before ordering a large quantity. It's also a good idea to set up escrow for at least half of the total not to be released until the goods enter the states. You should also use an import broker.

    The name of the site I have used slips my mind right now, but I never trusted a single provider that I chatted with on Alibaba. If I think of it, I'll post it. It's been 9 months since I imported anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Domino
      I bought some memory cards from DHGate a few months ago. Seller had 300 positive feedback. Paid with paypal, so supposed to be guaranteed.

      Result? Fake cards, took 3 months to get a 50% refund. Paypal supported the scammer.

      Importing from China seems like a huge pain in the a$$ for low returns. Ebay/Paypal fees amount to 10-15%.. that's just plain crazy.

      I did sell some electronics worldwide for an ok profit. Outside of the US, availability is smaller so some buyers buy your stuff even if it's 10% higher than average.
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      • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
        I've been going multichannel for a while now, mostly because eBay was starting to suck. Then eBay started restricting Chinese sellers and my competition pretty much disappeared due to limitation and won't be back because they won't be able to maintain a high enough DSR rating.

        I guess if you don't really understand how China buy and sells things, you are going to think Alibaba and DHGate are amazing and you are going to find the best rates there. If you go an look up 49cc engines, you can put money on the fact that the people you are buying from are only middle men and have probably never seen the product, and need your money to go buy it... if their supplier even has 49cc engines. Even if they don't, a Chinese person won't go to you and say "I don't have it" they will hold the money until they can find another way to get the items or a similar items, if they can only get half, then that's all they can get and that's all you will get. Alibaba and DHGate are also marketed towards Westerners, which is why a lot of you aren't getting a good enough deal to be able to remain competitive and still profit.
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        • Profile picture of the author Robert Domino
          Originally Posted by FaJeeb View Post

          Alibaba and DHGate are also marketed towards Westerners, which is why a lot of you aren't getting a good enough deal to be able to remain competitive and still profit.
          Main problem is counterfeits, not just price. When you can't trust someone with 300+ positive feedback to sell you something that works, who can you trust?

          Just make a wholesale guide, Fajeeb. They sell like crazy because everyone is looking for real suppliers, and has gotten burned on those scam sites. I know one guy making thousands each month with a cheap 30 page ebook, bidding on only 1 keyword, in one country. If I had the knowledge to do it I would since it seems like an amazingly good niche.

          I'm not interested in that stuff anymore but I would have bought a guide in the past, if it was from someone reliable.
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    The only people I know who have good experiences with imported goods typically go meet their supplier in person overseas.

    I've heard too many horror stories about being sent real products as samples and then the real order is fakes or broken junk.

    The reality is that especially for small business there are plenty of scammers that are all too happy to take your money knowing there is no recourse you have once payment is made.

    What you'll find with distributors both foreign and domestic is that the quantity required to get competitive pricing is usually in massive lots only (hundreds or thousands), you'll need a registered company with good credit, a good D&B rating and a fair amount of capital. Often the prices you get dropshipping or with one or two purchases are no better than your local Walmart.

    Electronics are probably one of the WORST niches to be in unless you have significant resources to invest a ton and weather the low margins.

    Many many years ago (when I was an idiot) I tried to start an online business selling electronics. What I found was the capital required was huge, no one wanted to deal with me and roughly 30% of the orders were fraudulent. (and that was AFTER the CC scrubbing was done)

    Try eating just a few fraud orders on expensive products when the margin is 10% or less...it will put you under fast when you are starting out.

    There is much more money to be made in your own products or private-labeled products (I'm not talking about IM stuff here) and at least you know what you're dealing with.

    If I want computer equipment or games I'm going to go to Amazon, Walmart, Newegg etc...you can't compete with those places.

    Electronics are a commodity- all Sony TVs are the same so it becomes a price war, and you will lose.

    There is money to be made if you can buy big lots of liquidated merchandise but the risk is huge...you have to know what you're dealing with.

    At the end subtract 10% for ebay, and more for shipping and packaging and then add in the time and labor involved...it would take thousands a day in sales to make a modest income.

    I only offer this as someone who has been there...I've been full-time only for years now, I don't sell "make money" stuff either. There are a lot better options these days than ebay UNLESS you are selling your own product.
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  • Most of Chinese wholesalers sells duplicate and low-quality stuffs.
    So always consult with a successful ebay-seller before buying from any Chinese wholesaler.
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