Passive Income with internet marketing is this truly possible?

Let's get something straight right now...you would probably be making a lot more money if you DID have a list. It's not "weird stuff" as you put it. It is a viable marketing tool. Second, and this really gets my blood going...I have learned most of my internet marketing here on THIS FORUM and people DO REALLY help here.

Don't just come in here when you haven't been here for very long and start telling people that this place doesn't help. You have a lot of nerve saying something like that! There are successful people who come to the forum all the time to give advice and help. That is what the Warrior Forum is for.

Hell yes, enough said

Have you considered if you had a good list those numbers might have an extra 0 on the end?

Easily doable,

With my first site I built which is an ongoing seo experiment I make roughly 1 Dollar for every 10 visitors selling low ticket Amazon products.

I say ongoing experiment because the site has hardly any backlinks and the initial choice was poor in my opinion but I decided to go back to it after more research on off page seo.

1 item I threw a few links at a couple months ago is now stuck in the number 1 google spot.

When you can form a good plan of attack for getting your keywords ranked highly and know what works the possibilites open right up, unfortunately too many people quit before reaching this stage.

By the way it has taken me 5 months of research and investigation to formulate a plan I am happy with which involves cost effective outsourcing along with work I do myself.

I am not making a living from this by any stretch of the imagination but I can clearly see how I only need to scale things up now.

With a spare thousand Dollars I am pretty confident I could rank quite a few sites high AND generate enough sales to turn this into a very nice passive income indeed.

As it turns out. I can only do a little at a time right now, once I input a few more dollars then Im pretty sure that will be returned 10 fold.

Infact, I,m more confident saying this than I would be saying "It cannot be done"

The first few months are tough, get past this and work out a plan and then work it.

It's not very passive though when you need to do support on what you're selling, or to send out quotes, etc, to make a sale.

Dio you perform off-page SEO on individual pages all the way or do you rely more on the authority?

I would LOVE to read this as a testimonial on some guru's site.

I was sorely tempted, to give him one of my products just so i could use it

Yes, it's possible and you will find many options in online business. I made $200-$300 per month in selling backpack online. The problem is you just need time to find out what the best online business that fit with you or match with you, that you like, that you love to do it, make you wake up every morning and always think about it and even dream about it... just like have a girlfriend:-)

I have four website, one game website(PR3) has revenue from text link ads and the other website I'm still working to monetize it. A lot of work, time and effort but I like it.

So choose carefully which online business that you like and focused on that.

If you want truly passive income it will require work setting it up. This is a common factor in any online business or offline business for that matter. Now to put it in terms of the online business realm...

Let's say you want to go the route of building a list... Well it will take time to build a list, and it will take time to build a relationship with that list.

However once you have systems in place to build your list, you can pretty much have that aspect on autopilot. Then all you have to do is sit down and plan out the entire year with promotions of various products that you know aren't going anywhere.

Using aweber you can set your frequency of your promo emails and set your frequency of your free content emails. Tie this in with a WordPress blog and it is a piece of cake. You can schedule your promo emails in aweber, and you can schedule your posts in WordPress. You can even tie this into twitter and facebook.

The time invested in creating and/or outsourcing the content for your autoresponder and blog will be all the time you will have to invest. After that you can just let it run on autopilot.

The key thing to remember is to not do things over and over. Setup systems for product creation, product promotion, site creation, listbuilding, etc. and then it will only be a matter of choosing which niches you want to target.

This isn't that difficult to do... but it blows my mind how people always over complicate such simple tasks.

Dennis

Hi,

Many of us have been caught up in this conundrum.

Many of us have found that even though we adore passive income, and even though we discover some excellent methods to achieve this - it's a lot harder to earn really good income from passive methods, and it's a lot easier to earn really good income from non-passive methods where human interaction and endeavour takes place.

The last part of that sentence (endeavour) is the key.

Ask yourself - if you did manage to create a truly passive system of earning - what are you going to do with your life?

Yes, I'm aware that most people could produce a huge list of things and that they could also twist and spin that list in their own mind (and in the minds of others) into something that resembles a truly wholesome and meaningful existence.

But the truth is that we're all human and we're all capable of lying to ourselves and others.

The 'universe' has a solution for this. Unless you truly, honestly would spend your time on wholesome and positive character-building activities once you achieve this passive income, then 'the universe' will not allow you to achieve that passive income.

You didn't really expect to be able to get 'something for nothing', did you?

Instead, it will direct you to a solution where you make a living at the same time as building your character through honest endeavour and wholesome activities.

You can try all you like to beat this 'system', but you can't beat nature.

Most of us will eventually give up on seeking that completely passive income and find something more constructive to do, that makes good use of our talents and makes us appreciate our earnings because we will have to actually earn them by putting something positive into the world.

Some will point to examples of those who appear to have beaten this system and who have gained real wealth through totally unwholesome methods or sheer laziness and seem to earn great *money* - no matter what they do, or how unwholesome their methods are. They are just learning the lessons in a different way. They are just discovering that real wealth is not just about money. They have full wallets but empty lives. They are only there in order to distract the lazy and lead them astray as another kind of lesson.

Most of you won't believe me and will need to learn this lesson for yourself. I know that I did.

Real wealth only ever falls into the lap of those who truly deserve it. The rest of us either have to accept that honest endeavour is the most efficient method, or we have to accept a poor substitute for the real thing. Things work like this for good reasons.

I overall agree with the answers here,

most answers are reasonable and yes, somebody has to mind the store ( myself or hired hands) regardless how automated this is.

I'm reading "work the system" by Sam Carpenter, where he tells the story (in a nutshell)
how he got from being on the verge of bankruptcy , to having a 4 hour week or
less by creating procedures for almost everything in the business he's in ( telephone answering service), sort of an internal wiki.

This I think is a key to success as well.

This is what I think would allow mostly a hands off approach over time.

To get back to the passive approach, I would like to add a couple of additional criterias you members made me think about.

These would be:

Some degree of passive potential.

Good for a newbie as a first project.

Duplicatable for different niches

Can be done while maintaining a full 40hour week working "for the man"

Budget of 2 grand or less, with the goal of ROI within 4-6 months max.(initial investment)

Done by one person to begin with if possible.

Not so much (initially only) emphasizing a mailing list model (that being said, the gold is in the list
I agree with that,
xcept I am concerned with high time-resource intensive maintenance there initially/ perhaps the business model using a mailing list would come right after this ( whatever you guys suggest model)

Donno if this makes sense or not.

I welcome your take ,opinions, and if this propels you to pitch me

perhaps you can send it as a personal message here.

Thanks once again.

Rob

You still need to work at it in the beginning if you want to earn passive income. Any type of passive business, it all started with a lot of activities, to establish market, your presence etc.. In the world of internet, it's also the same thing. You need to build a website, create a product, build your subscribers list, establish a steady flow of traffic, it's all hard work in the beginning, but once you have established yourself, it will become passive. If you are consistent for at least 6 months, you will definitely see the result, knowing that you are consistent for 6 months. But if you have a budget, you can outsource everything, let someone drive traffic for you, build your blog site, create product for you, write articles and submit articles for you to build your list etc.. and you will make passive income right at the beginning, but be prepared to spend some money.