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Old 10-20-2008, 11:46 AM   #1
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Default Beware the 1600 graphics Package

I noticed the 1600 graphics Package which was previously warned about in the old Warrior Forum a couple of years ago recently offered as a bonus by a well-known marketer.

I let him know that it contained copyright images (there's a Photo Object of a group of people with a bloke in a wheelchair at the front from Jupiter Images which took over Hemera on the box shot).

Just in case the word did not get to any Warrior that might have got the package through that offer or elsewhere, please be very careful using or distributing any package with 1600 graphics in the title.

There were, I think, three versions of this particular package released and they may all contain images for which the rights were not available.

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Old 10-20-2008, 11:50 AM   #2
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Thanks for the heads-up John.

I've actually got this package already - guess I won't be using it anymore. These days, I tend to buy images as and when I need them from bigstockphoto.com anyway...and you don't have to worry that someone is going to send you a legal letter.
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It's good of you to bring this up again... a while back (sometime more than a year ago) I posted to warn warriors about this.

Unfortunately this package of copyright infringing images was illegally distributed with Master resale rights and many warriors, big name gurus, and others just rubber stamped it and sold thousands of copies with resale rights all around the net.

Definitely if anyone comes across any package of graphics with resale rights do not ever resell them without first verifying that you are buying the right to distribute directly from the copyright owner...

And get the license in writing.

People in IM are notorious for being lax and not understanding copyright law.

You cannot even trust some of the biggest names in IM to get this right. Many do not verify first whether such packages are illegal be for they blast an email out and other create packages with resale rights not verifying with the freelancers they hire whether the graphics are licensed correctly for resale (very few are).

And it is not just the 1600 graphics package that has these problems...

There are many other packages out there selling graphics with resale rights without the proper licensing.

The worst part is that the bigger graphics companies work with legal departments or third party legal groups who do nothing but scour the internet and force those who use these copyright infringing images to pay thousands to avoid even more expensive litigation.

If you have the 1600 graphics package delete it immediately. Not only do you not have the right to resell it if you were sold resale rights but you may not be legally licensed to use many of the images in it as well on your own sites.

Caveat emptor.

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Thanks for the heads-up, john. I didn't really put much thought into the idea of selling copywrited images. I'll keep my eyes open.
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:17 PM   #6
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That is why it is best to always get your graphics from a designer...

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That is why it is best to always get your graphics from a designer...
But if that designer uses stock photos you must require that they supply you with the license they obtained for the stock photo and be sure to do the due diligence.

Some designers do not pay attention to detail and do not get properly licensed stock images.

The key is to get the image or graphic from the creator/copyright owner or require that your designer provide you with the license for any stock images used in a work so that you can verify it.

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I would guesstimate that around 90% of designers dont have the slighest clue regarding image laws, this is based on dealings with a LOT of them

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Meterman, "I've actually got this package already - guess I won't be using it anymore. "
Please check your sites and remove any suspect images. Sometimes we forget to do this and some graphics rights owners can clobber you years later for images on pages you forgot you even had.
Josh. I am very grateful for your original heads-up but I recognised the Hemera graphic the first time I saw the package.
Always keep the original copy of the license you get with any graphics, especially those provided on CD or in boxes. Rights change when companies acquire other companies but your original license *may* still be valid.
TRJN "That is why it is best to always get your graphics from a designer"
Hope your rights statement which you suppy to your clients is clear. I've chased up about details with most of those I've got graphics etc from, including major graphics companies.
It's an area (like PLR, RR, MRR and give-away rights) where there is a lot of slackness and potential for later problems.
Maybe it's mostly people that produce products of their own who take this seriously these days.
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Thanks for this.
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:46 PM   #11
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But if that designer uses stock photos you must require that they supply you with the license they obtained for the stock photo and be sure to do the due diligence.

Some designers do not pay attention to detail and do not get properly licensed stock images.

The key is to get the image or graphic from the creator/copyright owner or require that your designer provide you with the license for any stock images used in a work so that you can verify it.
Thus is the reason I said get your graphics from a designer (not just any designer)... View my profile you will see I have 3D Images, those are not stock art or something, they was created by my hands. I also have been known to go out and take actual pictures for clients.

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Old 10-20-2008, 07:19 PM   #12
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I am leary of any graphics in any package online. Even HEADER packages.

So many believe it it is on the internet it is public domain.

I guess many graphics sellers are in third world countries where "copyright" has little meaning.

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