If Paypal Really Sucks, Then Which is the Next Alternative?

by filiks
18 replies
hi

iv had issues regarding paypal activities and believe me im getting scared.

most people has come to tell their tale of woes how paypal has been limiting their account for no just cause.

now lets assume paypal get axe by the fed and they are ask to stop operating for many months. which payment processor do you think can alternate for paypal

iv heard of

alertpay.com,

plimus.com,

2co.com

your views please
#alternative #paypal #sucks
  • Profile picture of the author paraschopra
    2CO.com is good. I am using them personally and so are some other people I know.
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    • Profile picture of the author duffmarketing
      Paysimple.com could be an alternative, but I don't think they do things like email money requests. Mostly for web payments.
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    • Profile picture of the author secrets2010
      google checkout is the best alternative I would say...
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      • Profile picture of the author NMP
        In Europe MoneyBookers kicks. As long as you agree
        to not use funds for gambling, then you can accept
        U.S, France or other legally restricted gambling countries.

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  • Profile picture of the author Charleskidd
    Website 2 checkout is good and alertpay.
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  • Profile picture of the author filiks
    does this allows for everybody to use

    i learnt that google checkout is only for us and uk

    moneybooker i dont know of them

    i was thinking of a payment processor that cuts across every divide.
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  • Profile picture of the author magnificent
    2checkout and PayAlert can be alternatives
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  • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
    2co overall is ok, just sometimes, has more frauds than paypal.

    david
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    • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
      This worries me - I have not had problems with paypal - but hearing so many people who do have problems - have I got cause for concern

      :confused::confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlZombie
    2co and Alertpay for me
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Ranger
    NoChex.com is great for UK traffic.

    PayPal has been really great for me lately - always answer the phone when I ring up support.

    Admittedly I have had extremely annoying problems with them in the past! Problems that have caused me to be stuck in a foreign country without my businesses profits for just over a month. Bad time that was
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    I have seen the bad stories, and I have seen even some on this forum I thought were of an outstanding sellers, become victims, but also I have seen many that still use it and have for years, with no problems, I dont know why it seems like some run into trouble while others do not.

    I know I have been using them ever since they opened their doors, and never had a problem at all, does that mean that in the morning I might not have a problem, well no, but I hope that as long as I keep doing what I am doing, that I will not have a problem, until that day comes along there are just too many customers, that use paypal to ignore them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarah Harvey
    I haven't had a problem with Paypal at all. I find Paypal is fantastic. I do believe that if someone all of a sudden moves a lot of money through the account then they may close it down. It will look too suspicious. But I regularly use my Paypal for purchases on the internet, eBay, hosting accounts, work, hiring freelancers etc. There is a good amount of money that comes in and out every week so I guess it looks legitimate.

    The one thing about Paypal that I like is the fact that if someone managed to infiltrate your account and used funds to purchase anything, then they will refund you. Can you think of any bank that will do that? I can't.

    I have very specific buying habits so it helps that if someone did something unexpected that they will know it's not me.

    It does help to set up a business/premier account. Paypal understands that businesses deal with a lot of capital so that shouldn't be a problem. But if you are receiving money from less than desirable countries or from people that are under investigation, then likelihood of having your account closed is doubled!
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    • Profile picture of the author filiks
      Originally Posted by Sarah Harvey View Post

      I haven't had a problem with Paypal at all. I find Paypal is fantastic. I do believe that if someone all of a sudden moves a lot of money through the account then they may close it down. It will look too suspicious. But I regularly use my Paypal for purchases on the internet, eBay, hosting accounts, work, hiring freelancers etc. There is a good amount of money that comes in and out every week so I guess it looks legitimate.

      The one thing about Paypal that I like is the fact that if someone managed to infiltrate your account and used funds to purchase anything, then they will refund you. Can you think of any bank that will do that? I can't.

      I have very specific buying habits so it helps that if someone did something unexpected that they will know it's not me.

      It does help to set up a business/premier account. Paypal understands that businesses deal with a lot of capital so that shouldn't be a problem. But if you are receiving money from less than desirable countries or from people that are under investigation, then likelihood of having your account closed is doubled!
      dont get too excited with paypal

      i have also been using paypal for over 2 years without a problem then for no just cause my account was limited

      while i was angry at pp for such an unjustifiable action i went in search for reasons why such actions could have come to play from pp. and this is what i came up with



      why paypal can limit your account


      1. New accounts - All new accounts will be closely monitored, as paypal has no idea of who you really are, how reliable you are, and whether or not you are about to commit the largest fraudulent transaction in the past 20 years. If you've got a new account, I can't stress enough how important it is to try and let the account mature for a little. I've found 30 days is always good, similar to the maturity time for eBay accounts.

      2. Non verified accounts - This is a biggie. If your paypal account is not verified, please don't think it WON'T get limited. Because it will. Any old sod could sign up for a paypal account without verifying it, so it's the easiest money laundering trick in town. Verifying your account shows paypal you are who you are, you own the bank account and credit card, and you live in the location you specify. Those who claim they cannot verify their paypal accounts are obviously doing something dodgey. Your best bet is to verify your paypal account as soon as you open it. I find the 30 day maturity period should be after the account has been verified.


      3. Physical sign up location - Always sign up for a paypal account in the country it's registered to. For example, if your paypal address is a UK one, don't try and sign up in the US. This will give an immediate red flag to paypal, as the two locations are immediately contradicting eachother.

      4. Using a proxy - This is another big no-no. It ties in with the physical sign up location. Not only does it show you're in a different location to where you say you are, but paypal CAN SEE it's a proxy you are behind. After all, someone trying to hide their real IP address will immediately raise suspicion. So avoid using a proxy at all costs.

      5. Free email addresses - Not a big factor, but always something to try and avoid if possible. The idea that anyone can sign up for a free email address (hotmail, gmail, yahoo, hushmail, etc) gives one of anonaminity. If you can use your ISP email, then use it. Again it helps to show paypal you live in a fixed address with an internet connection of your own.

      6. Withdrawal amounts - Probably the main reason most accounts will get limited. The amount you withdraw is very important. Think, someone signs up a new account, and withdraws £1,500 in the first week. A little dodgey, don't you think? It seems that regardless of the amount, paypal often limit on the first transaction. But for your first withdrawal, I would suggest not withdrawing more than £50. Give it a week or so, withdraw another £50, and then slowly creep up the amount by £20 or so. Likewise, don't go from withdrawing £50, to then withdrawing £600. This again will raise a flag, and is likely to get your account limited.

      7. Linked details - Be aware - eBay and Paypal WORK TOGETHER. Any banned details (address, phone number, email address, bank details, credit card) on either ebay or paypal will always be banned. Try to use them again, and you will get a limitation. This also applies for IP addresses. Be sure you are not accessing your paypal account from an IP address linked to a suspended ebay or paypal account. If you've been previously suspended by paypal, don't even bother trying to sign up again. You will have to get a friend or family to sign up for you instead.

      8. Constantly changing details - Changing your details is offering your account for a rescreening. If you change your bank details, address, or credit card details constantly, this will ertainly arouse suspicion. Your account will then get limited so you can re-verify these details. The odd change won't harm, but be sure not to go overboard.

      9. Complaints - Any complaint is not good news. If you have any outstanding complaints on your account, be sure to resolve them within due course. If you have several outstanding complaints, and you try to make a withdrawal - it's likely you will get a limitation. For all paypal know, you could need to refund £400 worth of payments, and you try to withdraw, and bugger off with the funds. It's not going to happen. Clearly not getting any complaints in the first place will be the easiest thing, but if you do, resolve them as quickly as possible.

      well of all this i just cant see where i've gone wrong!
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  • Profile picture of the author Caroguama
    Judging from what I read in an ezinearticle titiled: Five Paypal Alternatives For Selling your Products To the Globe
    I think the good paypal alternatives for every international entrepreneur's use are alertpay, libertyreserve, 2co, plimus and digital river.
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  • Profile picture of the author silverwaterfall
    Thanks for starting this thread. I've been wondering the same thing so it's helpful to hear other peoples' experiences with alternative payment processors.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    You might try PayGear.com. I looked at them a while back and they looked good, but didn't do the 1099's for affiliates. After a few email discussions with them, they decided to do the 1099's. I can't remember the details, but as I recall they're kind of a cross between Paypal and Clickbank.
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