10,000 Posts - A Milestone Or Mindless Drivel?

[Steven Wagenheim]

10,000 posts...I never thought I'd see this day.

A lot has gone down for me since post number 1. My history here
alone has been quite a wild ride.

On my first day I answered 80 members questions.

I was almost run out of town. LOL.

Along the way, I made more mistakes here than most people
can make and still retain membership.

In other words, I was quite a big mouth. I had some very
strong opinions and wasn't afraid to make them public.

I was almost nailed to a cross when I was considering selling
a book on gambling. I now know what the number 3 evil of the
world is behind drugs and Brady Bunch reruns.

I can't even count the number of arguments I've had with other
members on a variety of subjects. Seems that I have some
pretty radical views on several subjects related to marketing.

I've made some friends here. I've probably made a lot more
enemies. I can be very opinionated and can become
extremely defensive when attacked. I don't play well with
others, as I am sure you've seen.

I guess what I am trying to say is that I have my faults...plenty
of them. I'm not even going to try to deny them. Several of
my supporters have felt that others have taken pot shots at
me. Well, in many cases, it was deserved.

In either case, I'm a big boy. I can take it. If I can't, then I
have no business being in such a public forum with such a
large member base filled with so many knowledgeable
people who I really look up to...some of whom have been
my biggest critics.

My list of Warriors who I would listen to over myself in a
heartbeat?

Paul Myers
Allen Says
John Taylor
Andy Henry
Bev Clement
Big Mike
Chris Rempel
Vegas Vince
Dee Power
Tiffany Dow
Andrew Cavanagh
John Ritz
George Sepich
Judy Kettenhoffen
Dr. Mani
Willie Crawford

All the above for different reasons as they all bring something
different to the table. But these are people with really brilliant
minds. And there are so many others.

Me?

I'm just a hard worker. I never was the brightest kid in school.
I finished college with a C+ average. I could never keep a job
and even with IM, it took me 5 months to make $28.

No, I'm not very smart. I'm just a hard worker.

Fortunately, for me, it has been enough...up to now anyway.

I don't post as often as I used to because, quite honestly, I've
grown weary of the knock down drag-outs. Besides, I need to
spend more time on my business.

My business?

It has more than tripled since coming here. I have no doubt
that the Warrior Forum played a huge role in that, even though
lately things have been relatively slow. But I'm not worried.
I've learned a lot in 5 plus years and I know that whatever
happens, I'll be fine.

I know some of you have been waiting for this 10,000th post
hoping that I'd have something intelligent to say.

So that this post hopefully fulfills that, I am going to leave you
with 10 things that I feel will make all of us better marketers and
better people, and ultimately, make us more money. No, I haven't
forgotten. This forum is for discussing about making money. So
after I present my 10 things, I will ask for discussion on them,
thus keeping this a legit post. For those who detest my long
intros to this stuff, my apologies to you.

Here is my top 10.

1. Be yourself. If you try to be something other than who you
really are, you're not going to succeed. It's like a person trying
to remember all his lies. Eventually they all unravel. Be yourself
and your business will prosper.

2. Treat your customers with respect. They are essentially putting
food on your table. Without them, you have nothing. Don't ever
forget that.

3. It's only business. Don't kill yourself over it. Tomorrow is
another day. Don't stress over each one. Some days you'll
make sales and some days you won't. If you micro manage
your emotions, you'll go crazy. Take the ups and downs in
stride.

4. Be good to your family. Remember, they're the ones you're
doing this for. I do this for my wife and kid. So I don't want to
start taking things out on them when times get tough. Leave
your work in the office.

5. Everything you say and do is going to be out there for all
time, especially if it's in print on the Internet. So make sure
that what you put out there is something you want everybody
to see. You can be controversial, as long as it's who you are.
Just understand what the consequences might be and be
prepared to live with them.

6. Don't ever stop learning. If this business really means
anything at all to you, you'll always strive to improve yourself.
Those who don't get left behind.

7. Pick your battles. Not everything is worth fighting about.
Some things are just better left ignored.

8. Don't think you're better than everybody else. You're not.
There is always somebody out there who is going to be
better than you. Confidence is one thing, but shoving it in
the faces of others may not be taken too kindly by those
around you. Nobody likes the smartest kid in the class
especially when he spends all day telling everybody how
stupid they are.

9. Keep an open mind. Somebody may just have an idea
that will help you. I truly believe that anybody can learn
from anybody else.

10. Finally, what goes around comes around. I am a firm
believer in karma. I'll leave it at that as I don't believe this
point needs any further explanation.

That's it.

So now, I'll open up the discussion. Couple of easy questions.

1. Do you think this post was a milestone or just mindless drivel?
Yes, I made a poll.

2. Do you agree, not agree, with my 10 points in helping to build
your success? Anything you want to add?

For those of you who took the time to read this, thank you. You
may not know it, but you're all important to me. I won't even try
to explain why because it gets into stuff that is just way too deep
for a marketing forum. Suffice it to say, it isn't all about making
money for me. I'll leave it at that.

I hope to be around for the next 10,000 posts. I have a feeling
that it's going to take me more than just a couple of years to
get there. I'm realizing that I need to spend more time with
my business and less time doing other things. And as much as
I love this place, my family and my business have to come first.

But make no mistake about it...I DO love this place. And I feel
so close to so many of you. If this forum disappeared tomorrow
I don't know what I'd do. This is like a home to me. So...

I'll still be around...Just not as visible as prior to this post.

I hope it didn't disappoint those who were waiting for it.

Sincerely,

Steven Wagenheim

PS - As a special gift, because let's face it, 10,000 posts is
still a milestone, even if it IS just mindless drivel, I am
giving any one of my products to the first 10 Warriors who ask
for it. You have to know what the product is that you want. So
do your research and then come back and make your request. I
will then PM you with details on how to get it.

** EDIT ** Offer All Gone...Thanks to all who asked

[John Taylor]

Congrats Steve.

10,000 posts in such a relatively short period of
time begs the question... When do you actually
slot in time to make any money?

John

[LegitIncomes]

WOW - 14.73 posts per day.

CONGRATS!

When do you actually
slot in time to make any money?

I was wondering the same thing. Steven must type about 250wpm.

In regards to the cool offer for a free product - does that include your WSOs too? If so, I'd love to read the WSO in the first line of your sig, "How I Bank $3,300 Monthly From Crap Ads".

[radhika]

1. Do you think this post was a milestone or just mindless drivel?
Yes, I made a poll.

2. Do you agree, not agree, with my 10 points in helping to build
your success? Anything you want to add?

1. Excellent post as usual. No Qs about it.

2. Completely agree!

I want to add one more: Be persistent and passionate about what you are doing.

.

[Kelly Verge]

Congrats! I can't imagine the thoughts racing through your head to produce that kind of volume.


(I could use your < 500 MMO PLR articles)

[Chris W. Sutton]

I don't post as often as I used to because, quite honestly, I've
grown weary of the knock down drag-outs. Besides, I need to
spend more time on my business.

Steven, to be honest, you COULDN'T post as often as you used to!!! There would have to be two of you to do that! Take care!

[John M Kane]

Way to go Steven! Keep up the pace...onward to 20,000
I've always enjoyed your posts even though not always agreeing.
I do agree with this post.

"Secret Articles" trips my trigger.

[Mohamed_Mnafeg]

Congrats Steve.

You know? you are one of people who I trust

[tiger325]

congrats steve...I feel like we all owe you a beer

[kumar]

Congrats Steve and we newbies always look upto veterans like you.

I am freelancing as an article writer and thought your book, The Complete Article Writing and Marketing Guide would be really useful to propel my writing income. Would appreciate if you could be generous enough to give this book

[Bishop81]

Great post, lots to think about!

I would also love a copy of your mmo plr.

Thanks!

[R Hagel]

Boy, if I had a hundred bucks every time you posted...



Seriously though -- I remember your first day posting. You say 80 posts -- but I think you banged away 200 posts in a 24 hour period. You sure did have some eyebrows raised. But you took your beating and remained a member -- that took guts.

Cheers,
Becky

[Charles E. White]

Steven Congratulation!

I have been away for awhile and come back and you have about 5,000 more posts

Best part about them is the ones I have seen are helpful....good job!

[Dean Shainin]

Congratulations Steven of your 10,000th post.

Yes, I do think this post is a milestone.

Yes, I do agree with your 10 points in helping to build your success.

Thanks for your quick help on questions I've had is the past.

Cheers,
Dean

[dvduval]

Congratulations. It truly is a milestone. I don't believe I have ever done this on a forum, but there is one where I am close, and another where I am at least a year or two away.

[Elmer Hurlstone]

Congratulations, Steven!

One little thing you may wish to add to your list of 10.

Take some time for yourself.

As I type this I'm sitting in a coffee shop in Blairsville, GA. Far away from my home/office in Florida.

The leaves are beautiful up here this time of year.

I've been essentially unplugged for most of the past week. After the "DT's" passed it's been great.

Do yourself a favor. Take a day or two off. You'll come back refreshed and better prepared for the fight.

Warm regards,

Elmer

[Nicola Lane]

I really hope that I am in the first ten to ask!

I have always found your posts to be helpful - o I can only imagine that your products are even more so!

If I am one of the first ten could I please also get The Complete Article Writing and Marketing Guide.

Thanks

[Mary Gallivan]

Hi Steven

Congratulations wow! - what an achievement!

It's surely a milestone and not drivel. You've helped me a lot with your advice on writing articles and I make use of the info you provide.

Another one to add to your top 10 is to enjoy what you do. I think when it becomes more of a chore than a joy then that's the time I stop and think again.

If I'm still in with a chance for a book then I'd like The Complete Article Writing and Marketing Guide but if I've missed the boat then so be it.

Well done again - here's to the next 10,000!!

Best wishes

Mary

[Alan Petersen]

Steve,

Thanks for making this forum a better and more interesting place. As others I'm amazed how you're such a prolific writer, poster, marketer, et al. But how on top of all that stuff that must keep you busy--you also find time to help. You've been kind enough to review my products even though you didn't know me much and I've always appreciated that!

Here's to 10,000 more.

If you still don't have your 10--I'd love a copy of your Google Hot Trends product.

[IMChick]

What a huge milestone! All the best to you in you climb to the NEXT 10,000 posts!

If I am one of the first ten, I would love to read and implement your WSO on "how I bank $3,300 monthly from crap ads".

[No Limits]

I enjoyed reading your post and think it is wonderful for you to reach the 10K milestone.

Thank you for your generous offer of a gift for the first 10 replies. PLR Article Blowout for the Make Money Niche is the product I am interested in. Thank you, Thank you.

[Midnight_Eden]

Great post and well deserving of the milestone.

Your thoughts are always worth reading.

[dean mcevoy]

hey, congrats on all of the posts. well done

if i have asked in time could i have The Complete Article Writing and Marketing Guide

thanks a bunch

[MikeAmbrosio]

Mindless drivel...definitely.


Haha - I'm just kidding of course!

Some of your postings I have printed because they are that good. You're one of the few who I go out of my way to read.

And your products are awesome! I have gotten more use out of your PLR products than you could imaging - and still do in fact.

Keep up the good work! And congratulations.

Mike

[Cali16]

Mindless drivel, hands down!! Seriously Steven, when are you going to stop??!!!

Just having fun with you! You have contributed a lot to this forum, and I can't tell you how many times I have either printed out or copied and pasted one of your posts to save in my documents because the information was far more valuable than 80% of the WSO's I've purchased, and so I could refer to it later.

Keep up the great contributions!

P.S. Just to keep yourself out of further trouble, maybe you should put Allen's name at the top of your list rather than Paul's (nothing against Paul, but it is Allen's forum... ).

[Bon508]

Congratulations on your 10K milestone!

I loved your post. Not a hint of mindless drivel!

I agree with your 10 points, but I'd like to add one. I'm surprised you didn't include it, because it's something you do all the time (you did it in this thread; it's one of the reasons you got to 10,000 posts!).

11. Share your experience and wisdom with others. (I guess that might come under your point #10).

Thank you, Steven. Well done!

[Suthan M]

10k already? i remember the day that you joined, and now your 10k? Wow, you like writing, dont you Steven.

p/s- dont you get any sleep, old buddy :-) ?

[Steve Taylor]

Congrates Steven...when you post, I read.
Thank You!
nuff said

-Steve

[Louis Raven]

Congratulations Steven!!

You've played a bigger part in my online business then you know but I'll save that story for a warm PM

You're a perfect example of karma, endlessly helping people and giving away your knowledge for FREE seems to have only trippled your sales (I imagine).

All the best,
Louis

P.S.

one left

Is your latest WSO of limits?

[Angela V. Edwards]

This is a great post, Steven. Congratulations on 10,000 posts, too.

[Peter Bestel]

When I saw this thread title it was on the home page and therefore abbreviated. It read,

"10,000 Posts - A Milestone Or Mi..."

I thought you were going to say Millstone (much more poetic IMHO)

And I wouldn't have been too surprised. By having this high level of posts, you've made yourself stand out from the crowd and for whatever benefits that may have brought, it must have at times felt like a millstone around your neck. You must know that sometimes you get flack just because of your high profile. We British are fantastic at putting people down if they show a modicum of success and dare to shout about it. At least this forum demonstrates that attitude is unfortunately world-wide.

You've stuck your head above the parapet a good few times and you've taken your fair share of hits, dodged a few, sure, but definitely been caught more than once.

You're not always right, of course, but that doesn't matter. This forum is a much better place for having you in it, Steven.

Congrats on this attainment and maybe it'll take more than 2 more years to get to 20,000 but I just hope I'm there to see it.

Cheers.

Peter

[ibringjoy]

It's a great 10,000th post, Steven. Thank you. I will miss your frequent input if you are not going to be here as much from now on, but I can certainly agree with you about how your family and business are your priorities. It's supposed to be that way. Looking forward to the next 10,000, even if they do take a little longer than the first!

Kathryn

[Loren Woirhaye]

"10,000 Posts - A Milestone Or Mindless Drivel?" You had to ask,
didn't you?

Some things have come through -

- you are Crazy Prolific - and your writing is pretty sharp - probably
mostly from incessant daily practice.

- you weigh-in on a lot of more topics than many of us. You must
read really fast. I wonder if you make the time to read books as
well?

- Your personality is tenacious and feisty. Even though you are probably
not a type A personality you've adopted habits which lead to success
in direct marketing - a good lesson for everybody here.

- you recognize that the internet pales in comparison to living and
making art. IM is an amazing tool but also exasperating and constantly
demanding. I haven't picked up a guitar for real in months - even though
at one time I played a great deal... while it's important to work at your
chosen livelihood it's equally vital to nourish your soul with activities
that offer different freedoms.

[Clark]

...and you listed Allen Says second?

Sheesh!

(This is a tongue in cheek comment in good fun - congrats Steven!)

[SusanneUK]

Originally Posted by Steve Taylor

Congrates Steven...when you post, I read.
Thank You!
nuff said

-Steve

That says it exactly for me...

Oh and I have never seen you post drivel, controversially yes but I love reading those too.

Looking forward to the next 10,000

Sue

[Jacqueline Watson]

Hi Steven,

Congratulations...

As a new warrior and new to the internet
marketing game, I must say that immediately
your posts seem to make me pay attention.

I've quickly learned to "listen" when you speak.
And I've applied much of your advice to my own
business.

I believe your post is a milestone and you
top 10 are crucial to success.

You are appreciated.

[Nick Brighton]

Steve, you are insane. How do you get time? Don't your wrists ache?

P.S

Although I think sometimes your posts are "questionable" or sometimes a little off for me, I always say this...

The amount of content you put out is bound to bring a few questionable remarks or posts here and there, but that pales into insignificance to what you do for this community.

It's like making love to a beautiful woman. You'll do it so many times that the law of averages will deliver a few strains and "flops" ;-) but that doesn't stop the highs.

Well done, much respect.

[TashylaB]

10K posts is amazing Steve. And to be quite honest, so far every single post of yours that I've read brings so much information to this forum and shows your years of experience and "expertise" in my opinion. Thanks a bunch, we love these posts.

And probably next year around this time we'll all be like WOW STEVE 20,000 POSTS LOL

[Keith Boisvert]

Conrgats I think? I can't imagine that many posts!

Although at times your "opinions" piss me off, and you come across wrong, I believe your heart is in the right place and for every post you make that irritates me(2,763 to be exact) You have 3.43 great ones.

I have learned a lot from reading your posts, and you have come along way. I remember the intial day or so when you came here, and yes, you most certainly had some "hackles" raised.

But you weathered it and have continued on and made some really thought provoking and educational posts.

Even though we don't always agree, I think you are a valuable asset to the forum and would like to say thanks!

Here's to the next 10k...

Keith

[Marhelper]

Congrats Steve. I cannot possibly imagine posting like that in 5 lifetimes. What an accomplishment!

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Keith Boisvert

Conrgats I think? I can't imagine that many posts!

Although at times your "opinions" piss me off, and you come across wrong, I believe your heart is in the right place and for every post you make that irritates me(2,763 to be exact) You have 3.43 great ones.

I have learned a lot from reading your posts, and you have come along way. I remember the intial day or so when you came here, and yes, you most certainly had some "hackles" raised.

But you weathered it and have continued on and made some really thought provoking and educational posts.

Even though we don't always agree, I think you are a valuable asset to the forum and would like to say thanks!

Here's to the next 10k...

Keith

Keith, I know I've ruffled some feathers. I've begun to realize that I have
a responsibility to this forum and need to help set an example. So I think
you're going to see a kinder and gentler Steven Wagenheim as I enter into
my 3rd year here.

[JohnMcCabe]

"In other words, I was quite a big mouth. I had some very
strong opinions and wasn't afraid to make them public."

Was?

Just kidding...

Congrats on reaching 10K. I'm a little over 9,000 behind you, and some days it feels like I live here.

The only thing I would add to your list is

Treat your customers with respect. And demand respect in return.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Treat your customers with respect. And demand respect in return.

Ah, that's where I have my own hangups with demanding respect. I know I
should, and I certainly don't let people walk over me, but my customers
don't have to get all warm and fuzzy with me, and certainly if they have a
legitimate beef, I'll listen. But yeah, if they start calling me vile names, I'll
defend myself.

Fortunately, it doesn't happen too often cause I'm just such a nice guy.

[Zachary R. Skinner]

Jesus steven.

When the hell do you actually find time to sleep??

That's a helluva a commitment to the forum!

[Shannon Herod]

Wow Steven,

I really do not know where you find the time. It seems like just two weeks ago you are at just 8000.

You are posting maniac. LOL

Shannon

[AlexKaplo]

Wow, 10,000 posts congrats man!

I'm pretty much new but I see your posts all over this forums and I wanted to take the time now to congratulate you and thank you for writing this post man. Your journey is very inspiring and your words a extremely motivating!

All the best man and here's to your next 10k!

Regards,

-Alex Kaplo

[Paul M]

Congrats Steven,

Your a great asset to the forum.

You must have an army of clones posting for you

If not, when the hell do you find time to run your business?

-paul

[gareth]

Steven - are your posts keyword optimized ?

Mine are not here but i intend to blitz another non IM forum with camoflaged optimized posts. Full of good content and my links of course.

Cheers.

[Chuck Evans]

When you are old as Steven you don't sleep as well and usually go to bed at 7 pm and wake up at 3 am! You can get A LOT done at 3 in the morning!

You also can't please 100% of people 100% of the time so don't even TRY! Keep posting Steven, we all enjoy them.

chuck

[Paul Myers]

Steven,

Congratulations. And I'm glad you didn't let the weirdness run you out. You've helped a lot of people here.

As far as listening to anyone before yourself? Don't. As the guard said in "The Wizard of Oz,"... Not nobody, not no-how!

Being yourself is what it's all about, baby. Even if you manage to be happy while being someone else, what have you accomplished?

You've made "someone else" happy.

Ooooph.


Paul