Aweber expensive?

14 years ago

I went to get an account thinking I could get something for like $5/month. Not so...

Not that I can't afford $20, but who wants to spend $20/month when you don't even know if you are going to use it.

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monitorit

14 years ago

especially when you can only have 500 subscribers.

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14 years ago

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Why are some of you considering a product you have no plan to use?

Cement a plan and start taking action on it before you consider purchasing.

Next, Aweber is NOT expensive.

Case it point - my list (which is hosted on aweber) currently costs me about 100 bucks a month.

I sent a few emails out this week - made 300 bucks.

That's a few emails.

I've had other emails make me thousands (just depends on the promo).

Believe me, for 100 bucks a month, that is DAMN cheap compared to the ROI.

Rob

This.

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Rob, you have such a way with words.. No need for anything more

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Qaisar 14 years ago

The price change came after the analytics option was added.

If you want the "old" pricing and features I believe you can get it from Jeff Walkers private label of Aweber at profollow.com
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Ashley Gable

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Why are some of you considering a product you have no plan to use?

Cement a plan and start taking action on it before you consider purchasing.

Next, Aweber is NOT expensive.

Case it point - my list (which is hosted on aweber) currently costs me about 100 bucks a month.

I sent a few emails out this week - made 300 bucks.

That's a few emails.

I've had other emails make me thousands (just depends on the promo).

Believe me, for 100 bucks a month, that is DAMN cheap compared to the ROI.

Rob

Sure but just because it is cheap compared to not having it, doesnt mean there arent less expensive options out there.

For instance trafficwave.net, owned by a warrior here, is a autoresponder service that charges one flat monthly fee for an unlimited amount of subscribers.

I know there are rules pegged on to "unlimited", but in the case, he says it doesnt matter if you have 1,000 or 100,000, it is always 17.95 a month.

A much better option if you ask me. I dont have to worry about freebie seekers, and other non-targeted people joining my list - costing me more money.

All in all, I think people need to realize there are other options out there.

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AshleyAA

All in all, I think people need to realize there are other options out there.

Yes...

There are other options out there.

I'm using most of them in one way or another.

BUT

Those "options" don't really provide the same level of service and analytics as AWeber.

Over the past 2 years. AWeber has really become it's own niche.

Use of the AWeber system and the cost is structured like that, because it rewards good list management.

There are other e-mail marketing options out there. GetResponse, iContact, Imnica... and many more...

But to say that AWeber is expensive is completely false.

If you can't justify the price tag for the complete AWeber service package, that doesn't mean AWeber is expensive.. it means you don't have a use for it.

Jay

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Ashley Gable

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

Yes...

There are other options out there.

I'm using most of them in one way or another.

BUT

Those "options" don't really provide the same level of service and analytics as AWeber.

Over the past 2 years. AWeber has really become it's own niche.

Use of the AWeber system and the cost is structured like that, because it rewards good list management.

There are other e-mail marketing options out there. GetResponse, iContact, Imnica... and many more...

But to say that AWeber is expensive is completely false.

If you can't justify the price tag for the complete AWeber service package, that doesn't mean AWeber is expensive.. it means you don't have a use for it.

Jay

Agreed, however something can still be expensive no matter what service, or how much service, it provides.

If i created something that cost a 100 grand, but it could bring you back 500 grand, sure that is a fantastic deal, but it is still "expensive"... in the traditional sense and definition of the word.

But I do agree, and I was unaware of awebers analytical features, I will definitely have to find out more, because as you pointed out, that is invaluable.

Thanks for the heads up.

Ashley

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Simon Royal

14 years ago

It can only be expensive if you don't use it.

Once you get your first subscriber start sending info, tutorials, promos, tips, anything.

Just make sure it is either entertaining, or informative.

The beauty of autoresponders is once they are set up all you have to do is get subscribers. Then your sequence does it's thing.

Then when you get private label products turn them into your own and send out a blast and cash in. Same thing with cross promotions, jv's ad swaps and everything else that makes you money.

Send it out and cash in.

If you get a decent response from the mailing set it up as a part of your sequence then just send traffic.

So build a list and monetize it and even if you pay $100 per month but you make $300 you are still giving $1 and getting $3 back.

You would be dumb to think that is expensive and not do it.
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Torrance

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Ashley Gable

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Simon Royal

It can only be expensive if you don't use it.

Once you get your first subscriber start sending info, tutorials, promos, tips, anything.

Just make sure it is either entertaining, or informative.

The beauty of autoresponders is once they are set up all you have to do is get subscribers. Then your sequence does it's thing.

Then when you get private label products turn them into your own and send out a blast and cash in. Same thing with cross promotions, jv's ad swaps and everything else that makes you money.

Send it out and cash in.

If you get a decent response from the mailing set it up as a part of your sequence then just send traffic.

So build a list and monetize it and even if you pay $100 per month but you make $300 you are still giving $1 and getting $3 back.

You would be dumb to think that is expensive and not do it.
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Torrance

Yep I already said that in the post.

But something can still be "expensive" no matter how much it gives back in return.

I bet a 4 dollar burger is very expensive to a bum. Will it give him more in return? Surely. But to him it is still expensive.

Originally Posted by Simon Royal

You would be dumb to think that is expensive and not do it.

Nobody here ever said that.

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14 years ago

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tribros

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

If you do list building correctly, you never have a problem with freebie seekers.

I'm not bashing on the other services, I know there are a lot of good ones.

But Aweber does things a lot lack.

And I'm actually considering MORE powerful ( = more expensive) software than even Aweber.

It's 300 bucks base fee + more as you add list members. That sounds expensive right?

But considering the fact that the automation is way more powerful than aweber, they do physical mailings plus email, and deliverablity is one of the best like aweber...

My whole point is this - there are some tools that you can buy cheap - sure.

But sometimes cheap tools break faster and cause more headaches down the line than the initial cost savings.

When you buy something, you must ALWAYS consider the value of the product - not the cost.

Cost is just cost - what you make of it and what it does - the value - is way more important.

Rob

Hey!! Rob,

Sounds like a very nice service. Can you please let me know the site? I'm interested on that kind of service.

Thanks!!

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mattalways

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Why are some of you considering a product you have no plan to use?

Cement a plan and start taking action on it before you consider purchasing.

Next, Aweber is NOT expensive.

Case it point - my list (which is hosted on aweber) currently costs me about 100 bucks a month.

I sent a few emails out this week - made 300 bucks.

That's a few emails.

I've had other emails make me thousands (just depends on the promo).

Believe me, for 100 bucks a month, that is DAMN cheap compared to the ROI.

Rob

I don't know, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

You pay $100/month for it? You better have a lot of time to work with your list, or that's a pretty big monthly investment for most of the people here. I'd imagine you have been doing it for a while as well. You better be making more than $300 to justify a $100 e-mail service.

Some people might just want to add a list, not make that their career to be an e-mail marketer.

Just my thoughts..

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JayXtreme 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mattalways

You better be making more than $300 to justify a $100 e-mail service.

I'd be willing to bet that he is making more than that. Any smart e-mail marketer using the full AWeber service is making more.

But even so..

If you could put $100 into a slot machine, and $300 popped back out... every time.

How many times would you do it?
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Ty Neal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Why are some of you considering a product you have no plan to use?

Cement a plan and start taking action on it before you consider purchasing.

Next, Aweber is NOT expensive.

Case it point - my list (which is hosted on aweber) currently costs me about 100 bucks a month.

I sent a few emails out this week - made 300 bucks.

That's a few emails.

I've had other emails make me thousands (just depends on the promo).

Believe me, for 100 bucks a month, that is DAMN cheap compared to the ROI.

Rob

I agree with Rob once you know how to make money from your list then it really nothing, I don't even pay attention to the cost of my aweber. If you want a FREE service then you can always choose Listwire,

The goal is to build a huge list and profit from that list, not to worry about the cost

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kiopa Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Believe me, for 100 bucks a month, that is DAMN cheap compared to the ROI.

I don't know if I'd consider that a good ROI, but depends on how many hours you put in for those promos, building your list, landing pages, e-mails, etc.

But yeah, I don't think Aweber is too expensive. You wouldn't believe how much effort is required to keep SMTP servers white-listed.
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  I agree with the others... It can be expensive if you don't use it.
  
  But there must be a reason why so many use it and recommend it to others. Obviously in the end it helps them make money...
  
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trafficwave

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

Why are some of you considering a product you have no plan to use?

Cement a plan and start taking action on it before you consider purchasing.

Next, Aweber is NOT expensive.

Case it point - my list (which is hosted on aweber) currently costs me about 100 bucks a month.

I sent a few emails out this week - made 300 bucks.

That's a few emails.

I've had other emails make me thousands (just depends on the promo).

Believe me, for 100 bucks a month, that is DAMN cheap compared to the ROI.

Rob

I'm still trying to really grasp this particular logic for how paying more makes sense to folks.

Using these numbers, you're getting a 300% ROI using Aweber.
That is, of course, VERY respectable.

Using the TrafficWave.net pricing model, you would be getting more than a 1600% ROI. You'd be keeping more than $80 in your pocket each month in addition to your profits.

So if "ROI" is the argument, it still make sense to pay less.

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

Originally Posted by trafficwave

I'm still trying to really grasp this particular logic for how paying more makes sense to folks.

Using these numbers, you're getting a 300% ROI using Aweber.
That is, of course, VERY respectable.

Using the TrafficWave.net pricing model, you would be getting more than a 1600% ROI. You'd be keeping more than $80 in your pocket each month in addition to your profits.

So if "ROI" is the argument, it still make sense to pay less.

Your logic is flawed.

a) He made that $300 in one week. His AWeber sub is for the month.

b) He just used that as one quick example

c) The AWeber service really isn't comparable to most of it's "rivals" right now. Only higher end services provide the amount of tools and analytics that AWeber do...

d) I'm really not prepared to discuss it any more with somebody who might wanna shine a good light on his own product

Not because I think you can't be objective about it, but it might, to others, just look like you are in here to promote your own stuff...

Honestly.... I'm not knocking YOUR product, but this would be an apples to oranges comparison if we started it

Peace

Jay

p.s. Of course it makes sense to pay less where it is possible, but if you are losing tools that you can use for your benefit, is it really worth it????.. and by this thought, you aren't "paying less".. you are reducing your costs by using an inferior service..

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trafficwave

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

p.s. Of course it makes sense to pay less where it is possible, but if you are losing tools that you can use for your benefit, is it really worth it????.. and by this thought, you aren't "paying less".. you are reducing your costs by using an inferior service..

If you are "losing" by switching, then no... switching wouldn't make sense.

If the super-duper-deluxe-acme-thingy feature is absolutely critical and/or worth the higher price then it may make sense to pay the higher price.

That just comes down to the business person doing the analysis, deciding what's important, and then making the decision.

As a musician, I get hired to play bass because I can play. Not because of how much I paid for my bass.

In marketing, we make money based on how well we use our marketing tools; not based on how much we pay for them.

If paying more gives you access to features that you can't live without, then it may very well make sense to pay more for those features.

But paying more for something isn't what makes it better.

One more example:

Years ago, I was shopping for a new Suburban.

We drove the Suburban. Loved it.

The salesman then recommended a test drive of the Yukon.

We drove the Yukon. It looked and drove EXACTLY like the Suburban. And I mean EXACTLY. The steering wheel, dash, console, seats, everything ... IDENTICAL. The odometers were about 1,000 miles apart from each other.

The price difference was $10,000.

I asked the salesman why they were priced so differently.

The look on his face was priceless. He finally mumbled something about the trim package.

So ... if all you're getting for the price difference is the "trim package", is it really worth paying more?

I'm still driving that Suburban today. It's a great vehicle. IF the Yukon had REALLY been worth more .. had a lot more features I actually needed, considerably less miles, better warranty, etc... I might have bought it instead.

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anthonylatona

14 years ago

I agree with Rob. Aweber is definitely not expensive and it's extremely reliable, easy to use and overall a great product. If you really try, you can probably get a list of people during the first month so the list pays for itself!

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monitorit

14 years ago

I do suppose it has got even better since my last use of it

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MrDay

14 years ago

I've tried the three popular ones: Aweber, getresponse, and icontact.

I believe Aweber is the still the most expensive but it provides the most value to me, customer service, features etc.... and it's the one I chose to use.

Why don't you try out the free trials and see what one you like best?

cheers!

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

I use automateyourlist.com, which is an Aweber reseller and I love it. Paid $179 up front for a full year and that's reasonable to me.

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mattalways

14 years ago

Well maybe I should get into e-mail marketing a bit more.

I mean it all makes sense, but I'm not sure it's for me as I don't always get my thoughts out very well in writing!

If you sign up and start generating a list, then decide you don't want to use them anymore, do you lose your list? Can you export it? Can you shut the account down temp and activate it again later with the data still in the list?

Like anything, I know it's not going to be simple to start pulling in lots of money from a list at first, no matter what you guys say....lol. I'm not sure I can just switch what I'm doing right now and have time to focus on mail list marketing without hurting my business right now. That's why I feel like $20 is a bit much to ask from someone just starting out without even having a list yet. I also heard you can't import your lists from other services. It just seems like a bit much to start and I hate wasting money.

What are your thoughts?

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Igor Kheifets

14 years ago

Of course aweber is expensive ...for those who
don't know or don't understand how to make money
off their list.

Frankly, the whole point of having a mailing list
is to make money, so if you're not making any
money of 500, 1000 or 10000 subscribers-in that
case aweber IS expensive.

To me, ever since I started to use, there wasn't a single
doubt in mind about aweber or the price, which pretty
much a bargain, if you ask me.

Aweber, takes away all the headache of running an autoresponder+
gives you an enormous range of cool features that makes the money
making process much easier.

Igor

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mattalways

14 years ago

Originally Posted by igorhelpsyousucceed

Of course aweber is expensive ...for those who
don't know or don't understand how to make money
off their list.

Frankly, the whole point of having a mailing list
is to make money, so if you're not making any
money of 500, 1000 or 10000 subscribers-in that
case aweber IS expensive.

To me, ever since I started to use, there wasn't a single
doubt in mind about aweber or the price, which pretty
much a bargain, if you ask me.

Aweber, takes away all the headache of running an autoresponder+
gives you an enormous range of cool features that makes the money
making process much easier.

Igor

When do you start sending your e-mails? Do you only use the autoresponse features? I'm thinking more of a weekly e-mail and I don't think I'd be sending without a few thousand on my list.

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Igor Kheifets

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mattalways

When do you start sending your e-mails? Do you only use the autoresponse features? I'm thinking more of a weekly e-mail and I don't think I'd be sending without a few thousand on my list.

That's a wrong mindset.

If you send out cool information, even if it's everyday-people
will open your emails.

Waiting until you have a 1000 on your list? hmm... who knows
how long will it take you to get there? And until you do, people
who are already on your list will forget about you, and will mark
you as spam the moment they receive an email from you...

We can continue this conversation over pm, cause I can go on and on
about this attitude

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mattalways

14 years ago

Originally Posted by igorhelpsyousucceed

That's a wrong mindset.

If you send out cool information, even if it's everyday-people
will open your emails.

Waiting until you have a 1000 on your list? hmm... who knows
how long will it take you to get there? And until you do, people
who are already on your list will forget about you, and will mark
you as spam the moment they receive an email from you...

We can continue this conversation over pm, cause I can go on and on
about this attitude

Igor

I get what you're saying about they might forget about the site, etc, but I don't have time to write e-mails to try to grab $50 - $200 in affiliate sales every week. So it's even more of a hassle because I will need to hire someone to keep on this mailing my users every week to build up a following?

So maybe a smaller goal like 100 -200 users on the list? I mean I really don't feel like mailing 10 people on a list. That just seems pointless. Even if all 10 of them bought from me every week, it would change nothing for me financially. What do you think? Can we not wait until the list is bigger? I don't think it will take me that long to get to 1000 opt-ins. Especially if I do all of the spammy stuff that is suggested on this forum to get sign ups. The site is getting around 400 uniques a day. What do you think?

I'm new to e-mail marketing. I haven't really used it. I'll admit that I don't know a lot about it yet. You can PM me if you would like. Thanks!

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Amy Carczak

14 years ago

Here's how to get Aweber at a huge discount.

Simply use an Aweber proviate label system,
get all the exact same benefits and the same
system but at a greatly reduced price.

I'm not sure how long this will last but I
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entrepreneurjay

14 years ago

Starting an email list is the best investment you can make period. Internet marketing is a business, and making money, and Aweber, go hand in hand.

If your not serious about building a business do not start an email list its just more money for those of us that are.

$20 a month is a drop in the bucket for a vital part of your business.

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Abdi Adan

14 years ago

He there everyone

I believe there is one answer why aweber is a bit expensive.

You get what you pay for.

Aweber is really in its own league and just so powerfull, yet easy to use.

Kindest

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14 years ago

personally, i love getresponse.

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richgrad

14 years ago

cheap or expensive it's all relative.

Think about aweber as paying rent for your business. If your rent increases, what do you do?

You can either complain (not productive) or you can think about how to make things do... it forces you to think more carefully about the type of people that you want on your list and improve the quality of your list in general.

Is that such a bad thing?

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trafficwave

14 years ago

Originally Posted by richgrad

cheap or expensive it's all relative.

Think about aweber as paying rent for your business. If your rent increases, what do you do?

You can either complain (not productive) or you can think about how to make things do... it forces you to think more carefully about the type of people that you want on your list and improve the quality of your list in general.

Is that such a bad thing?

In my case, when our rent went up several years ago, we found a better place, relocated, and saved a LOT of money in the process.

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fsweet

14 years ago

Wow I thought that was one thing that all of my teachers agreed on that aWeber was the best way to go
And you must agree that your list is important
Why trust it to a freebie/
and their function as a marketing tool is pretty slick

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dropship

14 years ago

I spend over $1K with Aweber a month with my list sizes, and yes I say it is expensive, however that's not the point. If you're profiting more than what you're paying, then it's worth it.

That being said, I don't think Aweber is the best service out there in regards to deliverability. I don't know how many lists I'm on as a subscriber and most of them get sent to my spam folder. So it makes me wonder how many of my own emails I send do the same thing.

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mlw32785

14 years ago

Aweber is an excellent service. I have used it many times over the years. They offer so much but I agree you shouldn't even consider using it if you have no use for it yet.

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rts2271

14 years ago

I make my money back daily on my list. I'm running about 2k a month in PPC (which is a fraction of what I should be spending I know) and about 100 a month for my AR solution. 2100 over 30 days is 70 a day. So to hit my margins I have to make 210 a day minimum. If a niche doesnt return at that ratio to me I have a few tactics I use to grow both its size and grow interest in the list.
This isn't a guessing game it's a numbers game. As a wise man beat into my skull for years, You have to know your numbers if you want to play the game.
If you have no list at this point, don't know your numbers and are trying to get a foothold, get a free iContact account, grow it and pay by threshold. Or use PHPList which is free, either way before you dump money into a unknown get your numbers.